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Author Topic: Do you subscribe to MSG? Why/ Why not?  (Read 6115 times)

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Microbius

« on: October 09, 2012, 03:01 »
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I would be interested to know what people's feelings are about the premium subscription option here.

I subscribe mainly because MSG saves me loads of time trawling through the forums on all the individual micros to find out what is going on. This is easily worth the $25/year to me so it only seems fair to pay up. It is this reason rather than to avoid the ads or get the private chat options.

Why do other users opt for the premium option? Is it for the extra features/ boards or for similar reasons to me (not so much for the extras so much as for the forum in general)? Just interested to know.


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 03:12 »
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I think I did it orginally to support the site, which I find interesting and useful. Getting rid of ads was a  very welcome bonus. And as I'm apparently permanently banned from the forums and mail at iStock, it's a useful facility for me personally.

« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 04:06 »
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I've never really noticed the ads.  I pay it to support the site as I find it so useful for so many things and as you said it saves going to all the sites or at least gives me a heads up to go and check out a thread.  Well worth the 25$, not even 50c a week!!!

« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 06:05 »
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Ditto, the ads never bothered me, but this site is worth more than the subscription fee.

« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 06:40 »
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Thanks for all the support guys.

Ideally it would be great to find ways to give more value to those who are premium members.  Any suggestions?

I have removed the ads for premium members but I'm still unsure about that decision.  I feel it would be better to give added value in a different way as when it comes down to it, it is the advertisers that are paying to keep the site running.  The premium memberships help of course, but the entire year of subscriptions only cover about two months worth of hosting, so there's another 10 months of hosting left+the time needed for upkeep of the site (which is paid by advertisers).  I also hope the ads are relevant to members and ideally they provide some value / information as well which premium members 'miss out' on.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 08:40 by leaf »

Microbius

« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2012, 06:48 »
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Absolutely no problem for me to have the ads appear, as I said, the resource the forum provides "as is" easily justifies the expense for me.

« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 06:53 »
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Same here, you can show us the ads, as long as they are banners and not pop-ups  :)

« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 07:47 »
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I did it to support the site as well.  One stop shop for MS news, debates, learning and peer chat.  And I particularly enjoy how Leaf explains how some (or all) of the money goes to help someone in need.

« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 08:33 »
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I have no problem with seeing ads although it doesn't help the financial situation. We really need to get more people on board but so far only people that do pay have answered the thread although I'm sure others must be reading and hopefully will get a prick of conscience and sign up.

« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 08:34 »
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Post read 99 times.  Come on some of you it's well worth the 25$ to help keep this site open. :)

« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 09:43 »
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I find the forums a useful resource - somewhere contributors can discuss things without being banned or having content deleted, and where we can exchange information about being a contributor to multiple sites. I think it's worth supporting it so it doesn't go away.

I found the day of ads (after my membership expired) awful - mostly because they were flashing. I found that sufficiently irritating that I'd beg that you make the ads non-flashing if you do bring them to the premium members.

« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 10:04 »
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Yes, I agree with the ads not flashing.

lisafx

« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 12:02 »
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I have subscribed since I was aware of the option to do so.  This site is the best place to keep up with industry news all in one place.  Seems worth the very nominal fee to support such a useful resource. 

« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2012, 12:14 »
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For my part it's mostly to support the site. I never noticed the ads difference though so they must not have bothered me before (my brain blocks ads now!!!) :)

« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2012, 12:54 »
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contributors can discuss things without being banned or having content deleted
Not in my experience!

Poncke

« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2012, 15:32 »
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Well, I dont subscribe, because I dont feel I should have to pay for a forum. I dont care about any other premium options, private chat, etc, and I dont care about the adds being visible, they dont annoy me. Adds are everywhere and I do not ever click on an add, even TV commercials are a waste on me. 

I have never come across a forum where I had to pay for something, and in general the extras that come with a subscription are not incentive enough for me to pay. I rather spend the money on a site that will host my photos like FAA or whatever.

I enjoy commenting on forums but not enough to pay for it.

This is not against MSG or anything but the question was asked why or why not and I answered.


« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 15:43 »
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Subscription is just kind of "thank you, Tyler" for me. I need no extra features at all. 25 USD is nothing compared to money I made thanks to useful info that I found on MSG.

lisafx

« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2012, 15:44 »
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Subscription is just kind of "thank you, Tyler" for me. I need no extra features at all. 25 USD is nothing compared to money I made thanks to useful info that I found on MSG.

Well said JM.  I could not agree more! 

« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 15:48 »
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contributors can discuss things without being banned or having content deleted
Not in my experience!

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Poncke

« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2012, 15:49 »
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contributors can discuss things without being banned or having content deleted
Not in my experience!

+1

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 15:53 »
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2012, 15:58 »
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contributors can discuss things without being banned or having content deleted
Not in my experience!

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-1 !! :)

HA!

you arent trying, thats the problem, try to say that your sales at CC are dead ;D

« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2012, 16:56 »
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I subscribe for all the reasons mentioned, but mainly because Tyler does a great job here and provides a great service for microstockers, and I just wanted to contribute in some way. I don't mind ads on the right, but I agree about the flashing...it's annoying and won't really make me do anything except the opposite of what the intent is.

« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2012, 07:20 »
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Subscription is just kind of "thank you, Tyler" for me. I need no extra features at all. 25 USD is nothing compared to money I made thanks to useful info that I found on MSG.

I agree 100% with that as well. I really don't know what I would do for information (and often entertainment!) without MSG. I would also be totally happy to be seeing the ads - mostly they are relevant and targeted so I may even be missing out by not seeing them. Not seeing them certainly plays no part in my supporting the site. But, as others have said, can we not have the annoying flashing ones please (note to current sponsors).
Kind regards, David.

PS Just realised nobody mentioned the Kiva loan aspect of premium membership - nice to know we're doing some good as well.

« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2012, 10:04 »
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I subscribe for all the reasons mentioned, but mainly because Tyler does a great job here and provides a great service for microstockers, and I just wanted to contribute in some way. I don't mind ads on the right, but I agree about the flashing...it's annoying and won't really make me do anything except the opposite of what the intent is.

Same here. Glad this topic was started to remind me to re-subscribe.

Have to say I didn't find it easy to locate the buttons to do so. Maybe it should be made more obvious to encourage users (a bit like the "Upgrade to premium?" on apps).

« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2012, 13:13 »
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This thread finally got me off my butt to subscribe, which I've been meaning to do. 

I subscribe to support the site, morally if not much finically.  As photographers, we need this space to ensure we have a way to learn what is happening in the industry, good or bad, without the censorship of a micro company run site. 

I occasionally find the ads informative, so I would prefer to keep them.  Maybe give the premium members the option to show the ads if they want?

« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2012, 17:29 »
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I started subscribing to MSG to support the forum and the Kiva microloans.

MSG has helped me make informed major decisions regarding photo agencies - info I would not have gotten otherwise - so I'm very happy to do my little part by being a premium member.

« Last Edit: October 10, 2012, 17:36 by ann »

« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2012, 06:05 »
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I've taken to heart your non-animated ads request.  In the future I'll only accept regular non-animated ads.

« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2012, 07:11 »
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dont want to start a fight but looking at your referrals around all agencies I dont actually feel the need of paying the 25$, even if it goes to Kiva at first (already there on MSP team) sorry but I am just being honest :)

« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2012, 07:39 »
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dont want to start a fight but looking at your referrals around all agencies I dont actually feel the need of paying the 25$, even if it goes to Kiva at first (already there on MSP team) sorry but I am just being honest :)
Nobody is saying that you should, that is why it is a voluntary payment.  Some of us think that the service provided outweighs any "earnings" that Leaf might get from it.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 08:18 by fotografer »

« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 08:09 »
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dont want to start a fight but looking at your referrals around all agencies I dont actually feel the need of paying the 25$, even if it goes to Kiva at first (already there on MSP team) sorry but I am just being honest :)

That's a little mean-spirited Luis! In a little over 2 years you've written nearly 4000 posts, started 79 topics and have become the 7th most prolific poster since MSG started in 2006. That's far more than almost anyone else who has actually put their hand in their pocket. We're talking about a voluntary donanation of just 50c per week (equivalent to a couple of sub sales on SS for example), which firstly gets loaned to charity for a year, before it contributes to the running of this excellent facility.

I've no idea how many hours Leaf put in to the recent upgrade of MSG (probably at least a week's worth of effort) but I'm quite sure he'd have made far more money by putting those hours into generating fresh content for his portfolio. If he makes a little extra from referrals then that fine by me and it means that members of MSG have effectively chosen him to 'donate' their referral to and/or have learnt about new opportunities to earn money for themselves. The vast majority of referrals generate very little money anyway.

Microstocking, working from home, can be quite a lonely existence for many and it's good to have a place to 'meet' fellow contributors from all over the world and discuss the complex issues of our industry. I'd say that the companionship and knowledge gained from MSG is 'priceless'. That's me 'just being honest'.

« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 08:50 »
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I have never said that I dont appreciate Tyler's work around this forum (I do), my point is that I dont see a reason to fund this forum once referrals are paying that already, sure plenty of time spent here instead of working on stock like you have said but again it is being paid by "us", didnt want to point it out but you can take a look at DP Tyler referrals and you will see a very long list, including most top contributors, one of them Yuri that collected close to 3k $ to Tyler

pretty much I agree with all that you have stated, I just talked about a thing I have recently found, sure it is deserved no doubt there
« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 09:08 by luissantos84 »

Poncke

« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 11:59 »
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I knew this was going to happen. The OP asks a question if you subscribe or not, and why and I knew the ones saying they dont subscribe would be getting the guilt trip. Typical.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 15:28 »
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Is it just coincidence that I'm now seeing within-thread adverts, or were they always there, even for premiums (just not at the top of the page), and I only just noticed after reading this thread?

Poncke

« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2012, 15:36 »
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For me they were always there, but the adds dont bother me.

« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2012, 15:38 »
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Is it just coincidence that I'm now seeing within-thread adverts, or were they always there, even for premiums (just not at the top of the page), and I only just noticed after reading this thread?
I've got a couple of very annoying flashy things on the right which I didn't notice until yesterday.

lisafx

« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2012, 15:51 »
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Is it just coincidence that I'm now seeing within-thread adverts, or were they always there, even for premiums (just not at the top of the page), and I only just noticed after reading this thread?

They've always been there AFAIK.  I don't even notice them.  Just read on past. 

As for the accusations of "guilt trip", only one person said anything critical of one other person, and that was tactfully phrased (especially considering it was coming from Gostwyck - it was practically a love letter!  ;D ). 

Poncke

« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2012, 16:01 »
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Hmm ok then, I felt a few hidden jabs in some other comments as well. But in that case, I might have read it wrong. THanks for clearing that up Lisa.

« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2012, 18:18 »
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I've been following this site (mostly lurking) for quite a while. I like the access to industry wide comments without the restrictions imposed by the individual stock sites.  Decided it was time to support MSG with a membership. Thanks Tyler!


 

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