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Ron

« on: July 01, 2013, 09:15 »
-11
Hi Leaf,

I have a suggestion. Can you limit the daily amount of minus votes per person?

Not only related to me, it seems that people get voted down for simple things as thanking someone, asking questions, stating facts, whatever, and its annoying and adds nothing to any discussion. I see this happening on a lot of posts lately from several people.

I believe people vote on liking the person or not rather then the contents of the comment. This is also related to lurkers who just vote people down.

If everybody has 3 minus votes per day, they would have to think where to put them and only place them where they feel its best, instead of voting down every single post. And if someone runs out of minus votes, they can come back the next day to vote a comment down, if its really that important to place a down vote.

What do you think?


« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 09:17 »
+19
Don't take it so personally.  It's just the internet.

jareso

  • Boris Jaroscak
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 09:34 »
+5
Sorry to writing to this thread, but I dont want to create separate thread for this.

My suggestion is that it would be also good if there was displayed how much +(pluses) and -(minuses) one received near every post.
Not only total result.

It would much better describe overall picture of post quality based on voting in my opinion.

« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 09:37 »
+4
Phew! Someone didn't like that comment, Sean. I'll bet you're sorry you said it, now.

Seriously, all the votes are meaningless. It's just funny when you say "Thank you" and get -2 for it.

If you really want to know how many people hate you, compared with those who love you, you could ask Tyler to list ALL the votes rather than allowing them to cancel each other so you might get "-37 +35" instead of just -2.


Ron

« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 09:57 »
0
@ Sean, its not about taking it personally, it just doesnt add anything to the discussion to vote posts down over nothing. But you do have a point.

@ Baldrick, that would also be a good option for sure.

« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 10:18 »
+7
Can I sell my extra ones to people that need more?  ;D

« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 10:21 »
+6
If people are spewing out an unusually large amount of rubbish, why is the "solution" to that to limit how many minuses readers can give?

I don't have much time for the + and - votes, but limiting the quantity makes a not great situation really terrible, IMO.

If you're going to have feedback, let people give feedback, whether positive or negative, in whatever quantity they see fit. If there's some sort of personal vendetta going on, Tyler can take away a person's ability to give any feedback (or if he can't, that's a suggestion that it should be possible to ban someone from  feature)


Ron

« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 10:23 »
-3
Because people cant handle the power of the min vote.  :)

« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 10:26 »
+1
Because people cant handle the power of the min vote.  :)

They must be people who are terribly unfamiliar with having any sort of power at all, then!

« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 10:27 »
0
If everybody has 3 minus votes per day, they would have to think where to put them and only place them where they feel its best, instead of voting down every single post. And if someone runs out of minus votes, they can come back the next day to vote a comment down, if its really that important to place a down vote.

What do you think?

The minus vote allowance should be determined by the formula n+1, where n is the number of posts by Ron within the previous 24 hours.

Ron

« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 10:31 »
+1
If everybody has 3 minus votes per day, they would have to think where to put them and only place them where they feel its best, instead of voting down every single post. And if someone runs out of minus votes, they can come back the next day to vote a comment down, if its really that important to place a down vote.

What do you think?

The minus vote allowance should be determined by the formula n+1, where n is the number of posts by Ron within the previous 24 hours.

So you are the one voting all my posts down? Come one, you shouldnt waste any time one me and my dumb comments.

« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 10:53 »
+3
I can't understand why people are affected when getting negative votes or happy if votes are positive. It's beyond me.

Ron

« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2013, 10:55 »
0
Ok, bad idea, but I do like the suggestion of Jereso and Baldrick. Just show the tally for both votes.

« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2013, 12:55 »
+2
I agree it would be very helpful to see the + and - count of votes.  It is in the plans but will take a bit of work.  It's not in the original mod so I'd have to code it myself.

I can also remove the ability for people to vote and if I notice a vote spammer then it is very easy to remove their voting ability.

Ron

« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2013, 13:14 »
+1
Thank you Tyler, thats great.


Tror

« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2013, 13:19 »
+2
I agree it would be very helpful to see the + and - count of votes.  It is in the plans but will take a bit of work.  It's not in the original mod so I'd have to code it myself.


I think it would be cool so too, but I do not want to be responsible for seeing Tylor yawning at the code at 4 in the morning just because of our unlimited feature greed... hehe

« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2013, 13:52 »
+5
I would rather we didn't have the +1 -1 thing but as we do have it, I try to abuse it as much as possible :)

« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2013, 13:57 »
+1
the ability to minus or heart a post become ridiculous because now we are giving hearts or minus any time any day without much "value" (not to mention that the person in question won't even know), the previous version was ideal

Ron made a suggestion had 7 minus, Sean said don't take it personally which in fact for the person opening the thread must be quite irritating, that got him over 10 hearts

« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2013, 14:36 »
+2
This is also related to lurkers who just vote people down.


How do you know that there are lurkers who just vote people down?

« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2013, 14:43 »
+4
Life is what happens when you turn off your computer ;)

WarrenPrice

« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2013, 14:50 »
0
Life is what happens when you turn off your computer ;)

I quoted that so I could give another Plus... didn't work.   ;D

Amanda_K

  • Illustration & Design
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2013, 14:53 »
+1
Life is what happens when you turn off your computer ;)

Aww, crap! I've been doing it wrong.  Going outside to celebrate Canada Day! :D

Ron

« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2013, 15:36 »
0
Come on guys one more down vote to hide the OP.  Who is going to sink me? The winner get an extra down vote added to his quota.

« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2013, 16:14 »
0
Chill out Ron, you have a good balance, which means most people find your posts valuable or interesting. You got a minus? Move on, man, life is too short to worry about it.

Ron

« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2013, 16:31 »
+1
The OP is in general, not for me. Check the comments on the site, the most normal posts get voted down.

Anyhoo, thanks, I guess.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2013, 21:18 »
+2
Considering the OP is from someone who had his right to vote removed, two identities ago, I find the topic quit ironic.

If it's not too much for Leaf, the total + and - would be logical for showing for example, that a zero is really - 5 and + 5 split decision.

Come on guys one more down vote to hide the OP.  Who is going to sink me? The winner get an extra down vote added to his quota.

I guess more than enough people agreed with you and pushed it over the limit, before I got here. So I didn't need to help your request.  :)

Ron

« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2013, 02:35 »
-1
.

« Last Edit: July 02, 2013, 03:06 by Ron »

gillian

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2013, 04:58 »
0
is it not also an issue that you may be abrasive in one thread, and less so in another, but - just like in the real world - people don't wipe your slate clean each time. This happens here a lot, right? I do agree the total tally of + and - would be helpful, but i'm loath to ask Leaf to do more work.

edit: fixed spelling mistake, as pointed out - incorrectly! - by not-so-smartypants BT
« Last Edit: July 02, 2013, 05:55 by gillian »

« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2013, 05:51 »
-1
I suspect people will not be loth to give me minuses if they loathe me for pointing out the difference between loth and loathe
 ;D

edit: I am being a smartypants but I wasn't incorrect: You could have loth or loath, but not loathe :)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2013, 06:22 by BaldricksTrousers »

gillian

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2013, 06:03 »
0
always happy to have my errors pointed out, as I do indeed dislike poor spelling and grammar in others, particular in a written forum.

I shall look forward to returning the favour.  ;D

« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2013, 06:13 »
0
Sorry Gillian. It was just too much for me after I woke up today and immediately encountered a split infinitive in the title of another thread. There's only so much one can bear!

I'm sure you will get your revenge before long.

Ron

« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2013, 06:50 »
+1
always happy to have my errors pointed out, as I do indeed dislike poor spelling and grammar in others, particular in a written forum.

I shall look forward to returning the favour.  ;D
You deal with a lot of foreigners in a forum who do not have 100% flawless command of the English language. Pointing out errors to them is not nice. I wonder how can you tell the difference if someone is native English speaker or not?

« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2013, 06:56 »
0
always happy to have my errors pointed out, as I do indeed dislike poor spelling and grammar in others, particular in a written forum.

I shall look forward to returning the favour.  ;D
You deal with a lot of foreigners in a forum who do not have 100% flawless command of the English language. Pointing out errors to them is not nice. I wonder how can you tell the difference if someone is native English speaker or not?

She's planning to get her own back on me, which is fair enough.

« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2013, 07:14 »
+1
always happy to have my errors pointed out, as I do indeed dislike poor spelling and grammar in others, particular in a written forum.

I shall look forward to returning the favour.  ;D
You deal with a lot of foreigners in a forum who do not have 100% flawless command of the English language. Pointing out errors to them is not nice. I wonder how can you tell the difference if someone is native English speaker or not?

Usually the native English speakers have worse grammar and spelling.


 

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