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melastmohican

« on: July 30, 2008, 15:04 »

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nativelight

« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 15:47 »

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Ugh...that seems high for an upgrade. Has anyone played with the beta version? Is it worth upgrading? I initially downloaded it, but put it aside when I found I could import my existing catalogs.


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Graffoto

« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 22:56 »

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In the final version you CAN import your existing libraries from Lightroom 1.xxx

The new version has some things that were not in the beta , such as a gradient tool.


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nativelight

« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 09:24 »

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Quote from: nosaya on July 30, 2008, 22:56

In the final version you CAN import your existing libraries from Lightroom 1.xxx

The new version has some things that were not in the beta , such as a gradient tool.

Yes, I remember they said you'd be able to import existing libraries once the final version was released. I just never bothered to play with the beta version because I didn't want to create new libraries.

Anyone else work with 2.0? Is it worth paying for the upgrade?


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stokfoto

« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 10:11 »

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I never used LR so I'd like to know if it is really better than PS in some features,considering it is a specially photographic tool.


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nativelight

« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 12:24 »

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Quote from: stokfoto on July 31, 2008, 10:11

I never used LR so I'd like to know if it is really better than PS in some features,considering it is a specially photographic tool.

What Lightroom adds is the ability to catalogue your images. If you don't plan to use that feature, I don't think it's worth buying (if you already own Photoshop).


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stokfoto

« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 15:25 »

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Quote from: nativelight on July 31, 2008, 12:24

Quote from: stokfoto on July 31, 2008, 10:11

I never used LR so I'd like to know if it is really better than PS in some features,considering it is a specially photographic tool.

What Lightroom adds is the ability to catalogue your images. If you don't plan to use that feature, I don't think it's worth buying (if you already own Photoshop).

Thank you very much for your response.I don't think I need that catalogue feature if that's main difference. may be I should download the trial version and give it a try.
I know it's used when shooting tethered but I guess there are also other ways for tethered shooting.


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Freezingpictures

« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 18:01 »

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Lightroom is much more than that. Lightroom gives you a lot of speed, if you want to edit large amounts of photos. For basic adjustments, whitebalance, exposure,saturation, vignetting, adjusting levelsand so on it is perfect. You can adjust many files at ones in Raw. It is also very nice and fast way to add meta data. Of course you can also add Metadata to several files at ones.

Another thing is the nondestructive editing. You can always reset to the original file. Lightroom has made editing for me much easier and faster. It is my most used software. If I need more than basic adjustments I go to photoshop.
I highly recommend it. Definately try out the trial version.


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melastmohican

« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 18:20 »

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LR is all what photographer should need. If you alter photos beyond that you are probably designer or illustrator and you need Photoshop instead. I guess there is no tool that would suit both type of users. You either do small fixes on large number of photos or extensive modifications on individual files.


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Zeus

« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 18:48 »

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If you shoot a lot then something like LR is essential. You can go through tons of images really fast and toss the dudes aside while tweaking the good ones on the fly. I can't of a single program that has boosted my output like LR has. PS is of course a must but for the initial edit LR is a very useful tool. I haven't downloaded LR2 yet but will very soon.


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stokfoto

« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2008, 06:41 »

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Thank you very much.I'll definitely give it a go!


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nativelight

« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2008, 09:28 »

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Can LR be used to shoot tethered? I've been using it for quite awhile. If it can really do this, I've been missing out! I agree too that it's powerful for working with large batches quickly. However, I was under the impression that Bridge has the same capabilities? I thought cataloguing was the primary difference.

Don't get me wrong. I love LR! I just hate to see someone spend that kind of money and not get something they can use above and beyond Adobe Bridge.

I still haven't heard anyone specifically comment on LR 2 and whether or not it's worth spending another $100 for the upgrade. Anyone?


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ErickN

« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2008, 09:45 »

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Quote from: nativelight on August 01, 2008, 09:28

Can LR be used to shoot tethered?

Yes it can, though not by itself. You will need a capture sotware to upload photos from your camera to your hard drive. Then, you can setup a "watch folder" in LR so that it automatically detects new pictures added to this folder and imports them into the LR library (it should be "File/auto import" or something similar, I work on a french version of LR).
I have a 40D and tried it with EOS Viewer as the capture software, connected to an USB cable, and it works like a charm. Though I'm still looking for a way to make it wireless (without spending big $$ on Canon's Wi-Fi grip).

[Edit] Here is a detailed explanation of how it works with Canon's EOS Viewer : http://photoshopnews.com/2006/12/06/tethered-shooting-in-lightroom/
It should be possible with Nikon Capture as well, or any other camera brands' softwares, as long as they have a capture feature.


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Zeus

« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2008, 09:53 »

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Quote from: nativelight on August 01, 2008, 09:28

I used to use Bridge a lot but where LR really shines is the ability to pre render all images to 1:1. Then you can fly through a thousand or more
images looking at critical focus, doing side by side compares, etc. I have to say it would depend on your workflow and style of shooting if you think LR is worth the money or not.


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digiology

« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2008, 10:06 »

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Just for the NEW "Local adjustment brush" makes the $100 upgrade worth it for me


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ErickN

« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2008, 10:29 »

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Quote from: digiology on August 01, 2008, 10:06

Just for the NEW "Local adjustment brush" makes the $100 upgrade worth it for me

Ditto. As well as the new gradient tool that can be used as a GND filter.

And also the addition of camera profiles, which can be downloaded from http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles. They are supposed to simulate each brand's Picture Styles / Picture Control or whatever name. I tried with my 40D's pictures, and all the profiles are not that far from Canon DPP's Picture Styles, except maybe the Portrait style which is too warm.

These profiles can also be edited to your taste with Adobe's free editor : http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:Editor. Profiles can be applied to all raw files, not only DNG files, as their name might suggest.


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nativelight

« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2008, 10:33 »

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Excellent! Thanks for the info. It sounds like it's worth upgrading.


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kosmikkreeper

« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2008, 13:59 »

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I got LR 2 right away upgrading LR1. Holy crap! The adjustment brush does MIRACLES!!! post processing time is GREATLY reduced! WOW! I'm blown away!

I'll be posting a video tutorial on the adjustment brush and graduation filter on Monday. I'll post the link here in this thread.

I'm blown away! I used to go to PS CS3 about 50% of the time. Now I think it'll be 25% just because of the adjustment brush!


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Opla

« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2008, 14:47 »

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I got the trial version today, I used bridge until now.
Big difference, works like a charm.
Only thing I don't like is the 299$ that changes to 299 euro's when I try to buy it Undecided


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kosmikkreeper

« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2008, 09:02 »

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As promised, here's my video tutorial on the new Adjustment Brush in Lightroom 2!

http://yanikphotoschool.com/tutorials/video_tutorials/lightroom-2-tutorial-adjustment-brush/

Yanik


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vphoto

« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2008, 09:22 »

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thank you, Yanik! A great tutorial, I will upgrade to the new version.


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digiology

« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2008, 10:01 »

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Yes - Thanks Yanik! Great tutorial. You just saved me a lot of time. That new brush does much more than I thought. Now I can't wait to try it out.


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ErickN

« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2008, 10:48 »

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BTW, does anyone know a way to tell Lightroom NOT to sort keywords alphabetically ? I'm used to put the most important keywords first in the list for sites like Fotolia. I know that Bridge doesn't sort keywords, but I'd like to do as much of my workflow as I can on raw files in LR.
Thanks


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kosmikkreeper

« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2008, 19:22 »

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Holy crap! No more Neat Image to soften skin up. LR has a preset! I'll do a tutorial on it for next Monday! I'm loving LR 2 more and more! Grin


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kosmikkreeper

« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 09:11 »

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As promised, here my video tutorial on the soften skin feature! This is just awesome! http://image-y.com/blog/tutorials/video_tutorials/lightroom-2-video-tutorial-soften-skin-brush/


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