Author Topic: Linux and Microstock (Read 15084 times)

eyeCatchLight · « **on:** December 18, 2009, 21:57 »

Hello,

is anyone of you guys working on Linux? I switched back a few weeks ago, and I'd like to know what software is good.
I currently run Windows for photo purposes or run it in an emulator, but the emulation is not sooo cool, especially for large bundles of pictures.

Thanks!
Simone

FD · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2009, 10:59 »

Quote from: simsi on December 18, 2009, 21:57

is anyone of you guys working on Linux? I switched back a few weeks ago, and I'd like to know what software is good.

I use Ubuntu now and then for fun, but as long as Photoshop, Cameraraw and Deepmeta won't run under Linux, it is just a toy. I do use OpenOffice though, instead of MS-office. I never found the time nor appetite to learn GIMP.

stockastic · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:01 »

Linux is a great platform for endlessly fiddling with Linux.

Xalanx · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:16 »

As a software developer I always had a strange impulse to go and try Linux, since one of the first Slackware distributions. So I tried a lot of them. Red Hat, Sabayon, Ubuntu, Suse, Mandrake, Mandriva, etc-etc-etc...
For what I do - software development and photography (read PS, LR, AcdSee) Linux is for no use. I tried GIMP for a little while, it seems awkward but it fits perfectly the hard-to-work-open-source-software-with-lots-of-bugs philosophy that goes as a general framework for any Linux distribution.
My conclusion after all these is: if you need an internet server, Fedora or Debian might suit you. If you have lots of free time (read - you don't really have a social life) and some strange urge to hurt yourself every once in a while, go with any of the distributions.
For anything else, go with Windows or Mac.

FD · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:23 »

Quote from: stockastic on December 19, 2009, 11:01

Linux is a great platform for endlessly fiddling with Linux.

Correct. There is also no financial advantage in it. All desktops and laptops I ever bought had Windows preloaded, no opting out possible.

There was on time I found Linux useful, and that was with the Ubuntu Live version on booteable CD. My Windows was scrambled on HD, and no way to repair except clean reinstall via reformat. With Ubuntu Live I could access the NT HD and extract all non-backuped data files (photos) on memory stick. I'm not aware of any booteable Windows live CD.

Xalanx · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:31 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on December 19, 2009, 11:23

Quote from: stockastic on December 19, 2009, 11:01
Linux is a great platform for endlessly fiddling with Linux.

Correct. There is also no financial advantage in it. All desktops and laptops I ever bought had Windows preloaded, no opting out possible.

There was on time I found Linux useful, and that was with the Ubuntu Live version on booteable CD. My Windows was scrambled on HD, and no way to repair except clean reinstall via reformat. With Ubuntu Live I could access the NT HD and extract all non-backuped data files (photos) on memory stick. I'm not aware of any booteable Windows live CD.

http://www.hiren.info/

eyeCatchLight · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:55 »

oh i came to see the linux haters

I have to say that the linux hassle was true until a few years ago....i was using it and everything was hard to do...
now after a long time I installed ubuntu again, and it has made so much progress that i am really impressed.

it is not so extreme anymore, you can even have a social life next to having linux....lol. i like it because i am closer to hardware and understand better what's really going on. but i am an engineer, so not everyone must be like that.

well i guess i will have to continue with my windows partition for photo purposes. that's alright too. :-)

simone

FD · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:01 »

Quote from: simsi on December 19, 2009, 11:55

oh i came to see the linux haters

No, I'm an Open Source lover. The problem is that our (at least for me) vital aps don't run under Linux.

FD · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:07 »

Quote from: Xalanx on December 19, 2009, 11:31

http://www.hiren.info/

Thanks. That was good for one (1) heart.

Xalanx · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:20 »

Quote from: simsi on December 19, 2009, 11:55

oh i came to see the linux haters

No hate here

it's a fun toy if you have the time to play around with it.

eyeCatchLight · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:59 »

for me it's not a toy...
doing everything there now, i LOVE the speed, it boots in a second... i do everything there except the photography things, and some music productions.
gimp is not bad, but when you are used to photoshop....

yeah open source is really cool. for programmer people able to read code it is a gift of heaven.

Xalanx · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2009, 13:11 »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjpn3L3bSJQ[/youtube]

eyeCatchLight · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2009, 13:17 »

lol....

good i am not a gamer. not at all

bratakiss · « **Reply #13 on:** December 21, 2009, 18:57 »

Not to go against the grain, but I've been running Linux ( Ubuntu ) at home for years. Don't even own a Windows license. I've recently started the photography side of things and although it took some learning, it seems to be working. I've never used Photoshop in a serious manner, so Gimp does the trick. Gimp does lack in some areas such as not supporting 16 bit TIFF, but all in all, I'm happy with it. I use UFRAW and Rawtherapee to work with the NEFs.

shiyali · « **Reply #14 on:** December 21, 2009, 23:29 »

I have used Linux for about six years on all three computers in my home. Personally I prefer Suse Linux. In the beginning it took a bit of fiddling but now installation and set up is a breeze, new programs can be installed and updated with one click. Very little hassle with viruses, trojans, etc. For microstock the Gimp does all that I need. However I am not into heavy post processing. Linux definitely saves me money, since I buy all my computers without software, custom assembled from a local store, where I can choose the components myself.

eyeCatchLight · « **Reply #15 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:45 »

nice to hear that other people are using Linux

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i didn't know that gimp is limited to 8 bit, that's kind of a drawback for me $:-\$ .
but...do you guys have something similar to lightroom? i read of bibble, but it doesn't seem to be for free, and so i don't know if i should give it a try. have you tried lightzone? what else do you use to organize your files?
photoshop btw runs under wine if you are interested. lightroom also in principle but there is still a small problem that i can't solve.
what are those raw tools doing? as i am shooting everything in raw, it is kind of cumbersome for me to edit each single picture with the raw converter. lightroom was perfect for that.
i guess in the worst case i just boot windows for photo-jobs and linux for all the rest.
:-)
simone

stockastic · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2009, 15:09 »

Quote from: shiyali on December 21, 2009, 23:29

new programs can be installed and updated with one click.

LOL LOL LOL <gasp>

Earlier this year I bought an ASUS netbook with Linux and it came with FireFox 2. When FireFox 3 was released, I naturally wanted to install it. 3 days later, after many forum posts, chasing after updates, packages, "distros", fiddling with obscure configuration files, unzipping "tarballs", learning shell commands etc. etc., I actually did get it running, and somehow got an icon for it on my desktop, and maybe (I'm not sure) cleaned up the old version.

I then Ebayed it and bought a new one with XP. For me, life is just too short for desktop Linux. And I say that after 20 years in software development. To each his own.

FD · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2009, 15:19 »

Quote from: stockastic on December 23, 2009, 15:09

For me, life is just too short for desktop Linux.

It really feels great and wonderful to run Linux. You feel a bit like a rebel, giving Micro$soft the finger. You switch between Firefox and the File Manager, looking at all those neat system and config files.
Then... playtime is over and you need to get some work done instead of running an OS, so you remove that Linux live CD till next year and you reboot in Windows.

Xalanx · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2009, 16:42 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on December 23, 2009, 15:19

Quote from: stockastic on December 23, 2009, 15:09
For me, life is just too short for desktop Linux.
It really feels great and wonderful to run Linux. You feel a bit like a rebel, giving Micro$soft the finger. You switch between Firefox and the File Manager, looking at all those neat system and config files.
Then... playtime is over and you need to get some work done instead of running an OS, so you remove that Linux live CD till next year and you reboot in Windows.

yea, there's a good reason for which payed software is better than linux, generally speaking. Same with payed / free photos

eyeCatchLight · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2009, 19:34 »

hehe, yeah feels a bit like rebelling but i also look at it from an engineering point of view. if you think of it you can see the source code and do with it whatever you like! and it is the same concept for most of the software. i find that really amazing. for windows stuff you never ever see the source code.
but i must say all this package thing and installing problem doesn't exist anymore that way. in ubuntu you just install things from the application manager, and it also updates everything automatically. i was really amazed. i installed it, and everything (!) worked. no driver issues, no software issues. i wanted to install it only to play around a little and i immediately ended up using it all the time. i also knew linux from earlier times, where i needed many hours just to find out how to change screen resolution....lol. but it is not like this anymore and that is what made me happy. nowadays you can just install it and use it.
i will probably boot windows for the photos, but for the rest it is working totally great and is much faster.

shiyali · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2009, 22:00 »

A lot of folks have outdated mindsets when it comes to Linux, thinking it is only for geeks. The top Linux distros such as Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora, etc have slick and sophisticated installations that rival or surpass any Windows installation. You have to remember, with Linux you get thousands of applications, with Windows you get a skeleton operating system, after that you have to buy a lot of applications. But to each his own, whatever works for you, and helps you get the job done. It's great to have choices.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2009, 22:29 »

When I was at Disney, we used Linux on all our HP boxes. I think we used KShell or something like that. Anyways, installing stuff wasn't my issue. I just got to use the apps.

stockastic · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2009, 23:16 »

Somewhat more seriously - Linux is a great engineering achievement, and definitely has a big place in today's world. Exactly what that place is, versus what it might have been - or possibly could be - is an ongoing discussion.

I was totally on board with the 'rebel' concept, that's why I bought the ASUS with Linux. Eventually I realized that ASUS basically screwed its customers by giving them a lousy, unsupported Linux distribution (Xandros).

I do think at some point desktop Linux will have its day.

bratakiss · « **Reply #23 on:** December 24, 2009, 18:21 »

Quote from: simsi on December 23, 2009, 09:45

i didn't know that gimp is limited to 8 bit, that's kind of a drawback for me $:-\$ .

Not all of gimp is limited to 8 bit, just TIFs. You can still use PNGs in full 16 bit. If you're using UFRAW for the NEF conversion and doing a lot of files, you can just run it in batch mode through the cli. It can be pretty flexible. Pair that with script-fu for gimp and the pfs tools for HDR and you can start automating a lot of your workflow.

Like its already been said, its good to have choices.

Best of luck, and feel free to ask more.

mtkang · « **Reply #24 on:** December 23, 2010, 00:56 »

so this topic is a year ago..

just installed ubuntu, and kind of smooth. Trying to get something that works like lightroom..
there are lightzone, rawtherapee, bibble..any ubuntu users had experiences with a photo workflow tool that like lightroom?

thanks.

melastmohican · « **Reply #25 on:** December 23, 2010, 01:38 »

I was using SuSE for years but always had to have Windows machine for photo processing. Now I switched to Mac. It's sort of best of both worlds. I got Photoshop and Lightroom on it but also can get some source projects and compile if I need it. It actually does not happen as often as when I was on Linux. With every major release something was broken and I have to Google it for hours to figure out that I have to compile some drivers or entire kernel from scratch :-) It seems like Linux on Desktop has never really took off.

sharpshot · « **Reply #26 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:15 »

Linux has changed a lot. I put PClinuxOS on my mum's laptop and she has found it works much better than windows XP. She has very little technical knowledge and I used to get phone calls when something went wrong but that hasn't happened since putting linux on her computer. I am typing this on my netbook using jolicloud1.1. It updates everything automatically and uses an apps system for really simple program installation. I'm sure there are other versions of linux that are just as easy to use. I use windows 7 on my main computer but my next one will have a bigger hard drive and I will dual boot it with linux.

mtkang · « **Reply #27 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:26 »

it seems many different OS of linux, i used ubuntu which i think is the most popular? now all i need is something to work like lightroom and i can try linux for a while..

shiyali · « **Reply #28 on:** December 23, 2010, 05:12 »

Modern desktop distros such as Ubuntu are very easy to install and maintain. Plugins are downloaded automatically, you have a huge free software depository available from where you install programs with one click, updates are automatic as well. You don't have to worry about disk defragmentation, and most viruses don't affect Linux. Since I don't use raw, the Gimp, and some other programs such as showphoto and krita meet my needs. I have set up Linux for my kids and teens and do just fine on it. I still have an old Windows partition but rarely use it.

mayaartist · « **Reply #29 on:** February 09, 2013, 14:57 »

Hi all,

On windows I'm using the mpeg streamclip. I was wondering what software is the best on linux (similar to mpeg streamclip).
I'm working on Fedora 17 + Maya + GIMP

thanks in advance

cardmaverick · « **Reply #30 on:** February 09, 2013, 15:37 »

Reading this thread really made me chuckle. Linux has come a LONG way.

Software for Images:

Darktable - Raw developer / database management. More powerful than Lightroom at the moment if you're using the current development version. This is probably the biggest reason to consider switching. In 3 years it has had MASSIVE development at highly regular intervals and features requested actually get put in. Imagine that! I've had one included that I requested

Gimp - 2.9+ has 16 bit support. I hate recommending it since it's a project with a bad reputation for ..... staying alive :/ Darktable really picks up the slack in so many ways though.

Geeqie Image Viewer - the fastest RAW file viewer you'll ever experience, and by fast, I mean 100% view loads in less than a second fast. I love it to death for reviewing a shoot. Beats the snot out of Adobe Bridge's 100% CROPPED eyedropper view tool, LOL. I used to capture direct to my laptop and view 100% snapshots using it.

RawTherapee - Raw file developer, a close second to Darktable. I kinda hate the interface.

Video:

Lightworks - a real true blue professional NLE is hitting Ubuntu this year. You can now cut you're super high res Red Epic footage on the same system you composite with

Kdenlive - waaay behind lightworks, but to be honest, the only real alternative that actually works well. It's just not a very heavily worked on project.

All the major compositing programs work on linux.

mayaartist · « **Reply #31 on:** February 09, 2013, 16:26 »

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Reading this thread really made me chuckle. Linux has come a LONG way.

Software for Images:

Darktable - Raw developer / database management. More powerful than Lightroom at the moment if you're using the current development version. This is probably the biggest reason to consider switching. In 3 years it has had MASSIVE development at highly regular intervals and features requested actually get put in. Imagine that! I've had one included that I requested

Gimp - 2.9+ has 16 bit support. I hate recommending it since it's a project with a bad reputation for ..... staying alive :/ Darktable really picks up the slack in so many ways though.

Geeqie Image Viewer - the fastest RAW file viewer you'll ever experience, and by fast, I mean 100% view loads in less than a second fast. I love it to death for reviewing a shoot. Beats the snot out of Adobe Bridge's 100% CROPPED eyedropper view tool, LOL. I used to capture direct to my laptop and view 100% snapshots using it.

RawTherapee - Raw file developer, a close second to Darktable. I kinda hate the interface.

Video:

Lightworks - a real true blue professional NLE is hitting Ubuntu this year. You can now cut you're super high res Red Epic footage on the same system you composite with

Kdenlive - waaay behind lightworks, but to be honest, the only real alternative that actually works well. It's just not a very heavily worked on project.

All the major compositing programs work on linux.

Hi cardmaverick,

Thank you very much for you reply. You save my day to be honest.
I've just installed Kdenlive and it looks fine.
To be honest, when I moved to Fedora 17 from Windows 7 I felt that I do not need Windows any more. I'm mostly working in Maya(3d) + Gimp and fortunately I do not need to work with RAW files (maybe EXR only).

Thank you very much for your help.

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