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« on: March 24, 2016, 15:28 »
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Here's a link.  To think that I'm one of the poor saps that paid for Viveza then got a free upgrade to the collection.

https://plus.google.com/+NikCollection/posts/AFGsG2Di7EK


« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2016, 15:36 »
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That sounds great to me.  I used a trial version for a while and a couple of those tools were doing good things for me.   

« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2016, 15:39 »
+1
Here's a link.  To think that I'm one of the poor saps that paid for Viveza then got a free upgrade to the collection.

https://plus.google.com/+NikCollection/posts/AFGsG2Di7EK

Wow! This is big. Thanks for the heads-up.
It's always good to have an extra tool in your tool-box.
 :)

« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 16:10 »
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Good news are rare.
This is one
Thank you very much for the link, pixart.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 16:22 »
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TVM for the headsup!

« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 16:29 »
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Yep thanks nice to see the forum delivering something positive :D

Hongover

« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 16:50 »
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Outstanding. Thank you for letting us know.

« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 04:39 »
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Hmm... I'm not getting my hopes up for any great enhancements or new products in the suite now that this has happened. I'd rather that they keep on charging if it means they're going to keep developing the tools. Ah well, they're pretty much indispensable already.

« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 05:48 »
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Thank you Pixart!!

« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 08:32 »
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Great news if you like free stuff. Possibly not such great news if you are a developer working on a competing paid product.

It's the same arguments as exist around people giving away photos.

If they were to open source it then that would be a different set of arguments.

« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2016, 09:49 »
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That sounds great to me.  I used a trial version for a while and a couple of those tools were doing good things for me.

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Good news are rare.
This is one
Thank you very much for the link


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Wow! This is big. Thanks for the heads-up.
It's always good to have an extra tool in your tool-box.

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etc, yada-yada

wowww indeed -- even a refund for recent buyers!

Sorry, but if that alone doesn't sound too good to be true then what is? Where is the catch here? C'mon people, this still is Google, and they have never ever done anything for free without a hidden agenda (collecting our data, violating our Privacy, forwarding to Big Brother what's actually ours etc)...

Hope no one here is going to be too disappointed when the next whistleblower comes along telling us what really was behind this "change in policy" at Google.

There are still a few people in this world to know the difference between "Free Beer" and "Free Speech". Usually you're given the former so they can make you forget about the latter.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 09:59 by Hi Cliff(s)! »

« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 10:20 »
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wowww indeed -- even a refund for recent buyers!

Sorry, but if that alone doesn't sound too good to be true then what is? Where is the catch here? C'mon people, this still is Google, and they have never ever done anything for free without a hidden agenda (collecting our data, violating our Privacy, forwarding to Big Brother what's actually ours etc)...

Hope no one here is going to be too disappointed when the next whistleblower comes along telling us what really was behind this "change in policy" at Google.

There are still a few people in this world to know the difference between "Free Beer" and "Free Speech". Usually you're given the former so they can make you forget about the latter.

Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?

« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2016, 15:07 »
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Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?

How do you feel about free high quality stock photos? It's the same.

dbvirago

« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2016, 18:19 »
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smh

« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2016, 21:30 »
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Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?


How do you feel about free high quality stock photos? It's the same.


No it's not the same.

Nik Malius sold his project to Google in 2012. He stopped developing it then. Instead of $100 and up a module, Google made it $150 for all. They sold these for two years and probably decided it was time to set them free.

Google claimed they were going to keep developing the Nik Collection. They didn't. Once the sales dropped below the expense and return, giving it away free could be cost cutting. Maybe they are going to introduce a new better collection.

Paint is free. Microsoft dropped it and gave it to the workers. Would you pay for photoscape, irfanview, paint.net, or http://topbestlisted.blogspot.com/2011/09/best-free-photo-editing-softwares.html

Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?

« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2016, 22:03 »
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Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?


How do you feel about free high quality stock photos? It's the same.


No it's not the same.

Nik Malius sold his project to Google in 2012. He stopped developing it then. Instead of $100 and up a module, Google made it $150 for all. They sold these for two years and probably decided it was time to set them free.

Google claimed they were going to keep developing the Nik Collection. They didn't. Once the sales dropped below the expense and return, giving it away free could be cost cutting. Maybe they are going to introduce a new better collection.

Paint is free. Microsoft dropped it and gave it to the workers. Would you pay for photoscape, irfanview, paint.net, or http://topbestlisted.blogspot.com/2011/09/best-free-photo-editing-softwares.html

Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?


And, just to add to this, all of the people involved with the creation and development of the software above were paid to make it.

So, it has nothing in common with free stock photos.

« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2016, 22:54 »
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Its not free.
This is only a trial for 15 days


« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2016, 02:39 »
+2
Its not free.
This is only a trial for 15 days



Have you actually read the link above?  it couldn't really be much clearer

« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 03:44 »
+1
Its not free.
This is only a trial for 15 days




" If you purchased the Nik Collection in 2016, you will receive a full refund, which well automatically issue back to you in the coming days."

It does not tell you nothing??

« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2016, 05:22 »
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Thanks Pauws99 and Chichikov. I thought from google page that downloadable setup is 15 days trial.  I never tried and purchase these plugin. 

Anyway, I have downloaded 450mb installation setup. Bundle setup include HHR Efect Pro2, Viveza 2, Sharpener Pro3, Silver Efecx Pro 2, Dfine 2, Color Efet Pro 4, and Analog Efecx Pro2.  Setup installed 8bf(plugin file) and also standalone exe file. Great and awesome plugin.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 05:24 by Kamran »

« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2016, 06:59 »
+1
wowww indeed -- even a refund for recent buyers!

Sorry, but if that alone doesn't sound too good to be true then what is? Where is the catch here? C'mon people, this still is Google, and they have never ever done anything for free without a hidden agenda (collecting our data, violating our Privacy, forwarding to Big Brother what's actually ours etc)...

Hope no one here is going to be too disappointed when the next whistleblower comes along telling us what really was behind this "change in policy" at Google.

There are still a few people in this world to know the difference between "Free Beer" and "Free Speech". Usually you're given the former so they can make you forget about the latter.

Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?

easy: that's because some of us are more awake than others. More boys-with-toys around here than journalists or ordinary grown-ups with at least some kind of a memory here, it seems.

You do know how long exactly it takes from a Google search to an unsuspicious-looking FBI van pulling up in your driveway on Long Island, NY when you're an outdoors enthusiast and want to buy backpacks and hot water bottles -- don't you?

So, sure you're totally free to dream on your innocent little life like a kid out there, but the above is a fact -- and it shows the kind of "friends" you have in Google :)

Also, as a photographer, you are aware of what metadata is? And you listen to the news every now and then, yes? And you are able to figure out what's 2+2?

(Or maybe you always have to wait for an Edward Snowden to risk his life and "do the math" for you...)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 07:07 by Hi Cliff(s)! »

« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2016, 07:06 »
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try to be a little bit more condescending

« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2016, 07:10 »
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try to be a little bit more condescending

-- just encouraging people to THINK (but I was aware of this being highly unpopular before). Still, there are people even on this forum who know what I mean, so it's not just me...

« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2016, 08:27 »
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Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?

None of those products is really free. They all have a competitive business model. You use Chrome and Firefox, for example, in exchange for your use being monetized. It's a become a clich - but you are the product and they sell you to the advertisers.

Nik being free undermines all similar paid-for packages. In the same way as free stock photos undermine the business models of those who still try to sell stock photos. Perhaps that is an inevitable outcome. Perhaps it is crazy to still try to charge for software or content.

« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2016, 10:18 »
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Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?

None of those products is really free. They all have a competitive business model. You use Chrome and Firefox, for example, in exchange for your use being monetized. It's a become a clich - but you are the product and they sell you to the advertisers.

Nik being free undermines all similar paid-for packages. In the same way as free stock photos undermine the business models of those who still try to sell stock photos. Perhaps that is an inevitable outcome. Perhaps it is crazy to still try to charge for software or content.

Always look a gift horse in the mouth, especially if it's from Google.   

« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2016, 11:04 »
+3
wowww indeed -- even a refund for recent buyers!

Sorry, but if that alone doesn't sound too good to be true then what is? Where is the catch here? C'mon people, this still is Google, and they have never ever done anything for free without a hidden agenda (collecting our data, violating our Privacy, forwarding to Big Brother what's actually ours etc)...

Hope no one here is going to be too disappointed when the next whistleblower comes along telling us what really was behind this "change in policy" at Google.

There are still a few people in this world to know the difference between "Free Beer" and "Free Speech". Usually you're given the former so they can make you forget about the latter.

Why some people have to see the evil everywhere?

easy: that's because some of us are more awake than others. More boys-with-toys around here than journalists or ordinary grown-ups with at least some kind of a memory here, it seems.

You do know how long exactly it takes from a Google search to an unsuspicious-looking FBI van pulling up in your driveway on Long Island, NY when you're an outdoors enthusiast and want to buy backpacks and hot water bottles -- don't you?

So, sure you're totally free to dream on your innocent little life like a kid out there, but the above is a fact -- and it shows the kind of "friends" you have in Google :)

Also, as a photographer, you are aware of what metadata is? And you listen to the news every now and then, yes? And you are able to figure out what's 2+2?

(Or maybe you always have to wait for an Edward Snowden to risk his life and "do the math" for you...)

Personally I always thought that people were scared depending on how they behave themselves in life ...
A crook will fear being defrauded, a thief will be afraid of being robbed, a killer will be afraid being killed
(Well, some psychoanalyst thinks this too)

Not you of course, apparently you are so much superior to common people like me
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 11:18 by Chichikov »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 11:36 »
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You do know how long exactly it takes from a Google search to an unsuspicious-looking FBI van pulling up in your driveway on Long Island, NY when you're an outdoors enthusiast and want to buy backpacks and hot water bottles -- don't you?
If that's true, which I doubt (or the answer is 'never'), it's a problem with the Land of the not very Free. I was googling all over outdoor equipment for my recent safari and the FBI haven't rolled up at my door yet.

I still say anyone who monitors my browsing and emails will be bored to death - and it serves them right.

« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 15:41 »
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Chrome is free, Firefox is free, Flock, Omni, Internet Explorer is free. Do you pay for your browser?

None of those products is really free. They all have a competitive business model. You use Chrome and Firefox, for example, in exchange for your use being monetized. It's a become a clich - but you are the product and they sell you to the advertisers.

Nik being free undermines all similar paid-for packages. In the same way as free stock photos undermine the business models of those who still try to sell stock photos. Perhaps that is an inevitable outcome. Perhaps it is crazy to still try to charge for software or content.

Always look a gift horse in the mouth, especially if it's from Google.

I looked, NIK's teeth are fine. I will use it to make better products and more money.

People who don't feel right about that don't need to download NIK and they can sit in their dark gloomy world without worry that the FBI will follow them. There are 318 million people in the US. I don't think the FBI cares about me. More like I'm insignificant.

The FBI would need a really huge fleet of vans to monitor just the people who imagine they are being watched. Maybe all those UPS, USPS and FedEx trucks are really secret government spys.

« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 17:42 »
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I will use it to make better products and more money.

People who don't feel right about that don't need to download NIK and they can sit in their dark gloomy world

Will it annoy you if a stock agency starts giving away for free RF licences for the use of high quality stock?

cascoly

  • Photography, travel & online games at cascoly.com

« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2016, 17:45 »
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easy: that's because some of us are more awake than others. More boys-with-toys around here than journalists or ordinary grown-ups with at least some kind of a memory here, it seems.

You do know how long exactly it takes from a Google search to an unsuspicious-looking FBI van pulling up in your driveway on Long Island, NY when you're an outdoors enthusiast and want to buy backpacks and hot water bottles -- don't you?

So, sure you're totally free to dream on your innocent little life like a kid out there, but the above is a fact -- and it shows the kind of "friends" you have in Google :)

Also, as a photographer, you are aware of what metadata is? And you listen to the news every now and then, yes? And you are able to figure out what's 2+2?

...


ad hominem attacks usually mean there's no there there

your alleged 'facts' don't check out -
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/01/new-york-police-terrorism-pressure-cooker  (and several other sites)

the story is more than 2 years old and you left out, changed, or ignored these FACTS

-- search was reported by the employee's company ,not google
-- search was for 'pressure cooker' and 'backpack'
-- date was shortly after the boston marathon bombing which used pressure cookers carried in backpacks

 ----------------------------------
not that it matters, I bought the Nik package 2 years ago and have been using it constantly since then;  images made using it have repaid purchase price many times over.  shift happens.  now google's made it free (AND is refunding those who bought it recently).  doesn't bother me
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 17:51 by cascoly »

« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2016, 03:15 »
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Many of us will benefit now from this offer. Bad expectation is that less and less developers will think to digg into plugins/filters development, because they don't expect a compensation for the time and efforts.

« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2016, 10:13 »
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Many of us will benefit now from this offer. Bad expectation is that less and less developers will think to digg into plugins/filters development, because they don't expect a compensation for the time and efforts.

You might want to think again. Nik invented these when there are 1000s of free plugins and other people making filters or packs. He charged $100 each and Google thought they were good enough to buy him out.

Somebody else can develope a better filter or plugin and sell them. Unless you believe everything has been invented and nothing new is possible or nedded? We'll never need a new computer or camera anymore. Cars, phones, photoshop software are all going to be the same, no new inventions.

« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2016, 10:22 »
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This is really nice. I've bought Nik filters in the past because they were head and shoulder above the cheap ones.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2016, 14:18 »
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I've been watching quite a lot of tutorials and playing a bit with the software.
What I'm noticing is that the enthusiastic tutorials are from three or more years ago.
A lot of the things which seemed special about Nik software then can be done as well or better directly in ACR or Photoshop (and, for all I know, in LR) nowadays.
As far as I can see the free download is not standalone, therefore it isn't a product which owners of newer ACR versions would pay for, IMO. There are always the presets which are fun, but probably not worth over $100.

There are still areas which software designers can be unique, so no issue that innovative designers are being undercut.

« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2016, 16:14 »
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i dont get the negativity, thanks for sharing OP, already had the plugin but still nice

« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2016, 17:17 »
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I don't think it's devastating to give it away, it wasn't that expensive. Knowing how to use it is more important. I purchased it last year and use it a lot, doing various things like blended noise reduction, HDR, Silver fx etc.  It's a sweet package for sure.

« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2016, 18:18 »
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As far as I can see the free download is not standalone, therefore it isn't a product which owners of newer ACR versions would pay for, IMO. There are always the presets which are fun, but probably not worth over $100.

I bought the Nik software a couple of years ago but I think my versions of the apps are the ones being offered for free. I was able to use all the modules as standalone apps, although some are fussy about the file format.

DC


« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2016, 18:32 »
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I do wonder why they are giving it away free now though.  Google is a corporation and won't do anything unless they can somehow make money from it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting ready to roll out something similar but better.  Maybe they know that whenever CC 2016 comes out it will break the current Nik tools and they want to get everyone hooked on it so they have to pay for a similar but better plugin for the new Photoshop.

« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2016, 03:31 »
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or the sales of the plugin are no longer offsetting the cost of maintenance support and development, so they cut it loose. nothing suspicious about that

« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2016, 10:32 »
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or the sales of the plugin are no longer offsetting the cost of maintenance support and development, so they cut it loose. nothing suspicious about that

I think they were buying the team not the product. I doubt they care about the product.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting ready to roll out something similar but better.  Maybe they know that whenever CC 2016 comes out it will break the current Nik tools and they want to get everyone hooked on it so they have to pay for a similar but better plugin for the new Photoshop.

Seems unlikely to me. Google is about selling advertising. Surely Nik talent was about improving Android - which is an advertising platform. No?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2016, 10:35 by bunhill »

PZF

« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2016, 14:32 »
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I've been playing with this (despite concerns about Google data gathering).....

Does anyone use the Final Sharpening effect for stock? I like the look, but fear it will fall under the 'thou shalt not sharpen anything' rules of the microstock sites.....

I usuallly do a tad of high pass, but nothing more.....

?

« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2016, 20:29 »
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I'm with you - high pass in soft light, 5-7px @ 75-90% opacity. Anything more seems to get over-sharpening rejections. The Nik sharpening looks pretty brutal, although they reckon it looks fine when printed. I've never tested that...

« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2016, 21:27 »
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i dont get the negativity, thanks for sharing OP, already had the plugin but still nice

How do they track if my computer for editing isn't connected to the web? Shouldn't it start to pop up that it's trying to contack or send data. Not happening. Reporting what? Anybody track anything going on! I have none.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2016, 08:28 »
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I'm with you - high pass in soft light, 5-7px @ 75-90% opacity. Anything more seems to get over-sharpening rejections. The Nik sharpening looks pretty brutal, although they reckon it looks fine when printed. I've never tested that...
I haven't  used the Nik sharpener, but when I started stock I got over sharpening rejections because  I  was  used to sharpening for ink jet printing. Now I see that the settings I used for that were "pretty brutal".
I've since read that different sharpening settings are used for different sorts of printing.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2016, 15:43 by ShadySue »

cascoly

  • Photography, travel & online games at cascoly.com

« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2016, 18:55 »
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I'm with you - high pass in soft light, 5-7px @ 75-90% opacity. Anything more seems to get over-sharpening rejections. The Nik sharpening looks pretty brutal, although they reckon it looks fine when printed. I've never tested that...

I've had no problems with rejections using the default sharpening in Nik

« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2016, 10:30 »
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I have a question - may we use Nik software plugin for commercial use - it's free now but is it free for commercial -stocks etc. I can't find any licensing for using this plugin.

« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2016, 14:53 »
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I have a question - may we use Nik software plugin for commercial use - it's free now but is it free for commercial -stocks etc. I can't find any licensing for using this plugin.

I don't think there's a way to purchase it today - it's totally free.   There's no one at Google who even cares about it anymore.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 14:59 by stockastic »

« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2016, 16:34 »
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I've been using it commercially for several years and Viveza for at least a decade.   I paid for it, but I doubt the terms have changed.


 

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