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Topic: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff  

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Lee Torrens


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« on: June 01, 2010, 07:15 »

Launched today:  http://www.stockfresh.com

They gave me a lot of notice, but I was still rushed in putting together a quick review:  http://www.microstockdiaries.com/stockfresh.html

Highlights if you're not into reading too much:

- 50% commission, can rise to 62.5%
- 35c subscription credits, and subscriptions are limited to Medium size and below
- Upload process is smooth and smart, model release management, FTP, IPTC, all that you'd expect
- Nothing overly new on the buyer side yet


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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 07:28 »

Peter did a great job with stockxpert, I hope this one does just a well and he doesn't sell it this time.  Will support this one as much as I can, hopefully the StockXpert buyers will go there.


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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 07:31 »

Well it will be certainly interesting to see how they do.  They have proven themselves before but it is considerably harder to get in the game now.  Thanks for the link and info Lee.  I just jumped over here to post the news and a link to your blog and you beat me to it Smiley


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cclapper
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 07:33 »

Four biggies already signed up: iofoto, yuri arcurs, dash and pressmaster.


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Lee Torrens


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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 07:41 »

Well it will be certainly interesting to see how they do.  They have proven themselves before but it is considerably harder to get in the game now.  Thanks for the link and info Lee.  I just jumped over here to post the news and a link to your blog and you beat me to it Smiley

I figure it's time to stop being shy.  Wink


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Stu49


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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 07:44 »

Four biggies already signed up: iofoto, yuri arcurs, dash and pressmaster.

5 now !!  I just joined !!  lol  Wink


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rubyroo



« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 08:04 »

That's great news!  I'm so happy to see them back in the game.  I always had a soft spot for StockXpert.  Good sales, nice vibe, lovely people.  I wish them so much success.


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sjlocke

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 08:19 »

Four biggies already signed up: iofoto, yuri arcurs, dash and pressmaster.

Never heard of two of those.  Anyways, I'd imagine any independent would quickly upload as much as they can, like any other storefront.  I did a couple of searches and popularity brought back all Yuri images on the page.  He must be stoked.

Good job on keeping the pricing up.  Of course, higher percentages only mean anything if you actually sell anything, and more of the same is just more of the same as everyone else.  I can't see why anyone would go here instead of where they already have an account.

The "images in the same series" bit is a nice touch.  I like the layout of the "rights allowed" red/green part as well.


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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 08:27 »

Four biggies already signed up: iofoto, yuri arcurs, dash and pressmaster.

Never heard of two of those.  Anyways, I'd imagine any independent would quickly upload as much as they can, like any other storefront.  I did a couple of searches and popularity brought back all Yuri images on the page.  He must be stoked.

Good job on keeping the pricing up.  Of course, higher percentages only mean anything if you actually sell anything, and more of the same is just more of the same as everyone else.  I can't see why anyone would go here instead of where they already have an account.

The "images in the same series" bit is a nice touch.  I like the layout of the "rights allowed" red/green part as well.
I will use them because I liked StockXpert, before it was taken over.  I am sure a lot of their old clients that have been forced in to using other sites they don't particularly like will try this out, as long as they can get enough images up quickly and keep us happy with a few sales.


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cclapper
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 08:31 »

Never heard of two of those.

Me, neither, but they have nice sized portfolios.

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Anyways, I'd imagine any independent would quickly upload as much as they can, like any other storefront.

Actually, they have one thing going for them that makes them unlike any other storefront and that is that they have already proved they can be successful. I hope the second time around proves just as successful as the first...for both agency and contributors.

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Good job on keeping the pricing up.  Of course, higher percentages only mean anything if you actually sell anything, and more of the same is just more of the same as everyone else.  I can't see why anyone would go here instead of where they already have an account.

Very true. Hopefully they can trade on their past reputation.
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sjlocke

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 08:35 »

Very true. Hopefully they can trade on their past reputation.

If I was a buyer at DT or somewhere, I can't imagine saying "Hey that guy from that other site started a new one with the same stuff they have here.  I think I'll go buy from there instead.".  There's no USP going on here.  The last USP promoted was the warranty at whats-its-name, and everyone else picked up on that real quick.


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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 08:52 »

Very true. Hopefully they can trade on their past reputation.

If I was a buyer at DT or somewhere, I can't imagine saying "Hey that guy from that other site started a new one with the same stuff they have here.  I think I'll go buy from there instead.".  There's no USP going on here.  The last USP promoted was the warranty at whats-its-name, and everyone else picked up on that real quick.
What about all the buyers that liked StockXpert but don't like the other sites?  I think they can attract enough of them to get the site going.  And DT have this strange rejection policy now that is stopping people uploading, I can see a lot of their buyers looking at other sites soon, if they don't change.

They also have the chance to accept only good quality images, the old sites have millions of images that clog up the search, there are some advantages starting a new site and hopefully the owners can use all their experience to get this one just right.


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etienjones


« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 09:05 »

Well, sure would like to see the new site, but I can't get passed the "upgrade your browser" page.  I have IE7, do I really have to upgrade to IE8 just to see what the site looks like?  . . . . .  or is it just me, I have heard a lot of bad reviews of IE8 and am a little cautious.


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rubyroo



« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 09:08 »

You can view it in Firefox if you don't want to use IE8.


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sjlocke

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 09:09 »

What about all the buyers that liked StockXpert but don't like the other sites?

What's to like?  I mean, I don't actually _use_ other sites, but they all look pretty much the same to me.  Actually, I hope IS gets their act together with the new interface, because the current one has too many faults...


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etienjones


« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 09:12 »

You can view it in Firefox if you don't want to use IE8.

its so hard to teach an old dog new tricks . . . .  but doesn't this limit the client base a tad?


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Lee Torrens


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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 09:16 »

I'm with Sean on this one (again). There's nothing new or different to attract buyers, as I said at the bottom of my review. Let's hope that Peter can put his knowledge from marketing StockXpert and his money from selling StockXpert to effective use.

Given they take hard drives and DVD submission, uploading can be a very cheap task.  In that regard, with the high commissions, there's little downside for contributors. High commissions don't mean much without sales, but when submission is that easy it doesn't take many sales to recoup the postage costs and an hour of packaging time.


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Lee Torrens


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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 09:23 »

You can view it in Firefox if you don't want to use IE8.

its so hard to teach an old dog new tricks . . . .  but doesn't this limit the client base a tad?

I used to be a web developer and I offered my clients an 80% discount if I could block IE7 and earlier on their site. 


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cclapper
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2010, 09:26 »

I'm with Sean on this one (again). There's nothing new or different to attract buyers, as I said at the bottom of my review. Let's hope that Peter can put his knowledge from marketing StockXpert and his money from selling StockXpert to effective use.

Given they take hard drives and DVD submission, uploading can be a very cheap task.  In that regard, with the high commissions, there's little downside for contributors. High commissions don't mean much without sales, but when submission is that easy it doesn't take many sales to recoup the postage costs and an hour of packaging time.

There might not be anything new, but then I have a tendency to think some of the sites keep changing things just to keep their IT people busy, not because the changes actually improve anything.

If I'm not mistaken, the prices to the buyers on stockfresh are less than IS and DT. That's something new.


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rubyroo



« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2010, 09:44 »

You can view it in Firefox if you don't want to use IE8.

its so hard to teach an old dog new tricks . . . .  but doesn't this limit the client base a tad?

Probably - but I'm sure they'll sort it out.  Wink  I think you'll find Firefox a very easy transition if you give it a try - I'm sure you're not as 'old' a dog as you think Smiley


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Zeus


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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2010, 09:59 »

There's no huge Yawning smiley I can use. How come?


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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2010, 10:02 »

What about all the buyers that liked StockXpert but don't like the other sites?

What's to like?  I mean, I don't actually _use_ other sites, but they all look pretty much the same to me.  Actually, I hope IS gets their act together with the new interface, because the current one has too many faults...
I just think that if I was a happy StockXpert buyer and had to go through all the changes imposed by Jupiter and Getty and then the closure and having to use other sites, I would probably want to go back to a site that's like StockXpert again.  It might not work out like that, it's just a possibility, we will find out over the next few months.  

As a contributor, I am very skeptical about new sites but this feels like StockXpert rising from the ashes, much more interesting than a site that doesn't have any history.


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corepics
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2010, 10:15 »

Nothing new indeed... Emails, text and graphics also bear a resemblance to StockXpert, or is that just me? The familiarity makes me feel right at home Wink


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plrang


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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2010, 10:17 »

Joined (48 ?) and waiting, if it would work I will happily remove some @#$


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elvinstar


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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2010, 12:46 »

I'm happy to be able to buy from Peter again. StockXpert was always my first choice when I needed images that I didn't have or couldn't produce. I can't be the only one!

And now to get OT for a moment...
How do you think the message below (a screenshot from IS just a couple of minutes ago) will help sales?


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