Author Topic: Bruce, Our Knight in Shining Armor? Stocksy Co-op (Read 78060 times)

cthoman · « **Reply #100 on:** February 07, 2013, 20:20 »

Quote from: jjneff on February 07, 2013, 20:11

Let's keep in mind we built iStock, we can do it again and even better this time this is not starting from scratch, yes it will take some time but we can do it!

I think that is true, but it is definitely a different environment now. Other agencies already exist. Anybody can build a site with off the shelf parts. I would think it would be harder to build a giant micro site now. Stockfresh definitely didn't blow the doors off out of the gate.

I don't know what they have in mind for this, but I would think it would definitely be easier to build a small agency with less artists. Especially since they are a co-op. That insinuates that they have an obligation to the contributors they let in. So, they want to keep their members fat and happy. The most obvious solution to that is to keep their competition, other contributors, out.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with, and it could be a model for other sites. We'll see.

jjneff · « **Reply #101 on:** February 07, 2013, 20:28 »

There is still a huge Gap in mid-stock, iStock has messed that model up so I can see Stocksy slipping right in. With the 50/50 split and the team they have started I think this could gain some steam! We all know Getty will squeeze every last dime out of us and leave us for broke! Of course it will take work and time but the others just don't get it. Looks like they are more than willing to be a community and that is where iStock dropped the ball. I am all for this even if they never offer video.

jamesbenet · « **Reply #102 on:** February 07, 2013, 20:51 »

Saw this: "focusing on high quality, image exclusive artwork."

So on an image exclusive basis which means it can grow along side other avenues of revenue until its big enough to be a primary stop for artists.

MisterElements · « **Reply #103 on:** February 07, 2013, 23:51 »

OMG This rocks!!! is it just photos?

33ft · « **Reply #104 on:** February 07, 2013, 23:57 »

The poll results are in and Stocksy will be added to the right hand bar in no time!

All kidding aside, reading this shortly after the BS topic is quite a lift. Would love to be part of it. Hope they have a short runway to liftoff!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #105 on:** February 08, 2013, 00:52 »

Quote from: MisterElements on February 07, 2013, 23:51

OMG This rocks!!! is it just photos?

They haven't set out all the details yet, but I believe it's photos to start

Poncke · « **Reply #106 on:** February 08, 2013, 01:21 »

Well thats a big disappointment, I got rejected and can no longer see the facebook group. So its for big names only. Good luck to all that got in. I feel quite disappointed to be honest. Time to up my game I guess.

nataq · « **Reply #107 on:** February 08, 2013, 01:54 »

Sounds interesting to me. It´s not a new idea, but finally somebody had the guts to do it. And it´s not just "somebody". I think it´s probably the only new venture that might have a chance in microstock. But I´m not sure if it´s clever to only invite the biggest contributors. You need almost everybody because to start with you need the power of word of mouth. Contributors need to tell their designerfriends about the site to make them change their image outlet. Otherwise it will be much harder to get the customers to move to the new site. Not impossible, but much harder.

gillian vann · « **Reply #108 on:** February 08, 2013, 01:58 »

this is good timing, and might keep more fingers off the iStock reactivate button

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #109 on:** February 08, 2013, 02:58 »

In all the threads about co-ops etc. what has always been missing is a credible leader with the experience to organise it and the clout to make an impact on the industry. It looks as if that gap has been filled. I'm sure news that "Bruce is back" would go round design studios like wildfire.

Perhaps the biggest issue will be building a library of sufficient size. I don't have a folder full of saleable images that I've been saving up for a rainy day. It would take me a while to build up a good-size portfolio of exclusive images but if the collection lacked critical mass the excitement over Bruce's comeback would risk being dampened by disappointment with the scale of the product and could end up like the site started by the crew from StockXpert.

That said, this is one lifeboat I'll scramble aboard if I get the chance.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #110 on:** February 08, 2013, 03:13 »

The line "own real equity in the company" suggests to me that you will pay to play. Subject to the details I'd go along with that but I wonder if others would.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #111 on:** February 08, 2013, 03:20 »

Quote from: vannphoto on February 08, 2013, 01:58

this is good timing, and might keep more fingers off the iStock reactivate button

Good lord! The reactivate button? Admittedly I didn't deactivate much but I have uploaded 100+ files elsewhere that iStock won't be getting a sniff of now or ever.

"Shall we only threaten and be angry for an hour:
When the storm is ended shall we find
How softly but how swiftly they have sidled back to power
By the favour and contrivance of their kind?

Even while they soothe us, while they promise large amends,
Even while they make a show of fear,
Do they call upon their debtors, and take counsel with their friends,
To conform and re-establish each career?" - Kipling

XPTO · « **Reply #112 on:** February 08, 2013, 03:42 »

The only chance this new agency has to make an impact in the stock world is to be as inclusive as possible both in the members allowed to upload as in the accepted themes, being top models posing in an airplane or isolated apples.

It must present top quality images but it must be inclusive.

Unless the plans are to create a niche agency competing in a specific segment of imagery like lifestyle, for example, which will not make any difference to the vast majority of us or the market, and is possibly dooming itself early for a semi-success if not failure...

A few years back an elitist project just like the one I mentioned in the previous paragraph was created and as far as I know was a total failure in terms of stock presence. It was also created by a high profile person in the stock industry but no one hears anything about them. I think it was called Vivozoom.

So I hope this will be an inclusive project because it will have the strength of tenths of thousand of motivated contributors pushing it forward, and the same time crippling severely its competition.

vlad_the_imp · « **Reply #113 on:** February 08, 2013, 04:12 »

Quote

A few years back an elitist project just like the one I mentioned in the previous paragraph was created and as far as I know was a total failure in terms of stock presence. It was also created by a high profile person in the stock industry but no one hears anything about them. I think it was called Vivozoom.

http://www.vivozoom.com

Looking at the standard of work it's not hard to see why it failed to make an impact. I'm imagining Stocksy might try a little bit harder, although I don't underestimate the steep hill they have to climb. The amount of interest in this in just a day or two does show the huge amount of disaffection amongst contributors to other sites though, so you can only wish them well.

fotoVoyager · « **Reply #114 on:** February 08, 2013, 05:10 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 08, 2013, 03:13

The line "own real equity in the company" suggests to me that you will pay to play.

That'd be my guess too. It'd give the organisation capital up front for marketing and attracting customers, a stumbling block for all new entrants.

Paying per upload would force people to be selective but would also give further fuel to the current photographer abusers to justify their crummy royalties.

Zerkalo · « **Reply #115 on:** February 08, 2013, 05:40 »

Yes, I am rejected too. Maybe they want to have only people that they know. Disappointing.

fotografer · « **Reply #116 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:07 »

Quote from: Zerkalo on February 08, 2013, 05:40

Yes, I am rejected too. Maybe they want to have only people that they know. Disappointing.

The link doesn't work for me and I haven't applied so maybe they aren't allowing non members to even apply now.

Zerkalo · « **Reply #117 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:24 »

Quote from: fotografer on February 08, 2013, 06:07

Quote from: Zerkalo on February 08, 2013, 05:40
Yes, I am rejected too. Maybe they want to have only people that they know. Disappointing.
The link doesn't work for me and I haven't applied so maybe they aren't allowing non members to even apply now.

Oh, I was actually referring to the facebook group. There is a closed facebook group for people who are interested in knowing more about Stocksy. My request was rejected, so I can't even find the group at the moment.

I am a silver level exclusive cont. by the way, no IS spy or sth.

ffNixx · « **Reply #118 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:26 »

The FB group is no longer reachable. I guess they realised (or were told) they were a little premature. Some kind of pre-announcement from Stocksy would help.

fotografer · « **Reply #119 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:34 »

Quote from: Zerkalo on February 08, 2013, 06:24

Quote from: fotografer on February 08, 2013, 06:07
Quote from: Zerkalo on February 08, 2013, 05:40
Yes, I am rejected too. Maybe they want to have only people that they know. Disappointing.
The link doesn't work for me and I haven't applied so maybe they aren't allowing non members to even apply now.
Oh, I was actually referring to the facebook group. There is a closed facebook group for people who are interested in knowing more about Stocksy. My request was rejected, so I can't even find the group at the moment.

I am a silver level exclusive cont. by the way, no IS spy or sth.

Yes I was talking about the FB page as well. I guess they realized that they may have been a little hasty in letting people into the group without finding out exactly who they are.

XPTO · « **Reply #120 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:35 »

I was also rejected in the facebook group.

I'm a gold member in IS, as well selling tenths of images in alamy per month, but it's true that the Facebook account I've used is not explicit of that, or my work in the stock business.

Microbius · « **Reply #121 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:40 »

I don't think they are purely choosing people on sales volume at this time.

They probably want people who can give input and/ or influence others.

I noticed they had Lee (industry expert and blogger) for example in the group.

Also people from the SS forums that could only be there because they have a large following of contributors so good to have on side, rather than a lot of sales.

It's early days yet.

goober · « **Reply #122 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:41 »

I'm starting a co-op stock site called crapsy. For all of those artists who get rejected by stocksy. Who's in?

vlad_the_imp · « **Reply #123 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:48 »

Genuinely LOL'ed at that! I'm in.

Anyka · « **Reply #124 on:** February 08, 2013, 06:49 »

Quote from: goober on February 08, 2013, 06:41

I'm starting a co-op stock site called crapsy. For all of those artists who get rejected by stocksy. Who's in?

haha, well it depends ... what are your plans : micro, mid or macro stock ? And will you exclusively sell crap or are some average quality images allowed too?

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Author Topic: Bruce, Our Knight in Shining Armor? Stocksy Co-op (Read 78060 times)

cthoman

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Poncke

nataq

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XPTO

vlad_the_imp

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Zerkalo

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