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« Reply #375 on: January 08, 2018, 10:07 »
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Congrats! Could you show us a link to your portfolio? Thank you very much!

Chandra, check your inbox ;)


« Reply #376 on: January 08, 2018, 14:44 »
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Congrats! Could you show us a link to your portfolio? Thank you very much!

Chandra, check your inbox ;)

Thank you so much, Cersei! I sent you a message too  :)

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« Reply #377 on: January 09, 2018, 02:22 »
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I'm sorry disagree completely. the level and quality of content in stocksy is years ahead micro stock.


For sure! But let's not forget they are only doing what was done before micro stock. They are screening applicants for consistency and also editing images from the accepted applicants. So in effect in this day and age of everyone gets a medal, they have really only gone retro just like the trads used to do when it was a "closed shop".
And for this I applaud them, it is long overdue in the industry, a thing of the past.

Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against Stocksy, rather I like what they are doing, however I have been around long enough to know if I was to mix things up from what I am currently doing, Stocksy still would not be a contender for where I would place my work.
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Best quote in this whole thread!!  " But let's not forget they are only doing what was done before micro stock. " so true!  and that is years ahead of micro!

« Reply #378 on: January 09, 2018, 05:54 »
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I'm sorry disagree completely. the level and quality of content in stocksy is years ahead micro stock.


For sure! But let's not forget they are only doing what was done before micro stock. They are screening applicants for consistency and also editing images from the accepted applicants. So in effect in this day and age of everyone gets a medal, they have really only gone retro just like the trads used to do when it was a "closed shop".
And for this I applaud them, it is long overdue in the industry, a thing of the past.

Don't misunderstand me, I have nothing against Stocksy, rather I like what they are doing, however I have been around long enough to know if I was to mix things up from what I am currently doing, Stocksy still would not be a contender for where I would place my work.


Best quote in this whole thread!!  " But let's not forget they are only doing what was done before micro stock. " so true!  and that is years ahead of micro!
[/quote] How can something that was done years ago be years ahead? If it was such a great business model why was Mstock not strangled at birth?

« Reply #379 on: January 09, 2018, 07:02 »
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Congrats! Could you show us a link to your portfolio? Thank you very much!

Chandra, check your inbox ;)

Now I'm curious, too! :)

« Reply #380 on: January 09, 2018, 08:04 »
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How can something that was done years ago be years ahead? If it was such a great business model why was Mstock not strangled at birth?

I think what derek meant to say is that microstock once was similar to macros today: more picky. You didn't need to search for hours to find the image you were looking for. That's not the case today. There are too many pictures and almost none quality control. You can still find really nice photos and great artists there but you will need to scroll a lot. And in today's world where everything needs to be done yesterday, it is almost impossible to think twice about paying more and saving your time. Since my first stock photo purchase on Corbis in 2003., the industry changed a lot. It's not the same and never will be. Let's just hope this time it's on the right path!
« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 08:09 by Cersei »

« Reply #381 on: January 09, 2018, 11:15 »
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Is it difficult to get in Cavan images? Just because I was accapted less than 24 hours..

« Reply #382 on: January 09, 2018, 11:29 »
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How can something that was done years ago be years ahead? If it was such a great business model why was Mstock not strangled at birth?

I think what derek meant to say is that microstock once was similar to macros today: more picky. You didn't need to search for hours to find the image you were looking for. That's not the case today. There are too many pictures and almost none quality control. You can still find really nice photos and great artists there but you will need to scroll a lot. And in today's world where everything needs to be done yesterday, it is almost impossible to think twice about paying more and saving your time. Since my first stock photo purchase on Corbis in 2003., the industry changed a lot. It's not the same and never will be. Let's just hope this time it's on the right path!
I think the step into the future that will make a difference is curation by artificial intelligence its just too expensive for humans to do it in the current environment and they are not very good at it

« Reply #383 on: January 09, 2018, 12:14 »
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Is it difficult to get in Cavan images? Just because I was accapted less than 24 hours..

Allright guys. Now I'm curious about cavan images. Would yoi mind share your portfolio for us to see the kind of images they need?

niktol

« Reply #384 on: January 09, 2018, 15:59 »
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I think the step into the future that will make a difference is curation by artificial intelligence its just too expensive for humans to do it in the current environment and they are not very good at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlsvFN_5HI&feature=share

« Reply #385 on: January 09, 2018, 16:35 »
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I think the step into the future that will make a difference is curation by artificial intelligence its just too expensive for humans to do it in the current environment and they are not very good at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlsvFN_5HI&feature=share
Yes probably where we are now despite claims made about current search engines ;-)

« Reply #386 on: January 09, 2018, 17:48 »
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Is it difficult to get in Cavan images? Just because I was accapted less than 24 hours..

Looks like Cavan heard we're still waiting for Stocksy and threw a bone ;D We're a bit offtopic here but why isn't there anything about Cavan here on forum? Like it doesn't exist at all

« Reply #387 on: January 09, 2018, 19:55 »
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Is it difficult to get in Cavan images? Just because I was accapted less than 24 hours..

b.smith, check your inbox, please.

« Reply #388 on: January 09, 2018, 20:18 »
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It's really weird, I couldn't find anything about Cavan here on forum. So I applied few days ago out of curiosity. Got accepted in 24 hours, lol. Just to remind, still waiting for Stocksy reply, it's been more than 3 months now. Well, happy New Year ;D

Isn't it time to start a separate Cavan thread.

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #389 on: January 10, 2018, 02:41 »
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Hey people, 3 thoughts

1-. Cavan is not "EL DORADO". Cavan distribute to sites like offset, Plainpicture, Adobe Premiun... and sell a little by their own web but... If you don't have premium lifestyle you will earn more in microstock. A hipster looking a smartphone or a girl walking in city is not enough today in macro to compete.

2-. Why stocksy sell more??I think first is prices-quality... Offer/demand curve, good marketing and social networking popularity. Contributor fidelity and happiness is important for they see this first site for upload best stuff

3-. Yes, still waiting, because this... Stocksy threat is too boring...

« Reply #390 on: January 10, 2018, 05:39 »
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For Cavan, I'm in but I don't submit after reading the faqs:

Similar Content, even if not selected, may not be shared with other agencies.
Paypal payments incur a 2.9% + .30 cents charge!
Weird upload process, you have to zip files together, adobeAdobe RGB (1998) Colorspace... but no need to keywording.
Too much work.
For Stocky, 3 months wait and I'm refused...
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 05:43 by palagarde »

« Reply #391 on: January 10, 2018, 08:24 »
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We have a new Cavan thread in general discussion now... Sorry everyone for this offtopic mess!

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/cavan-images-30975/new/#new

« Reply #392 on: January 10, 2018, 08:34 »
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For Cavan, I'm in but I don't submit after reading the faqs:
Similar Content, even if not selected, may not be shared with other agencies.
If I'm not mistaken about Stocksy, they have the same requirement for the similar content.

« Reply #393 on: January 10, 2018, 09:29 »
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cavan looks the same as stocksy.
i don't see particularly complex lifestyle in both agency, sure not a girl on the street only but they are mostly shooting who cost nothing or near.
the only agency who complex shooting in stocksy i see is lumina, and 2 3 other, i mean shooting that involve lot of model location scouting and rental, supply of food etc.
cavan is series exclusivity. well i don't know if it's worth. i understand image exclusivity. but seres. ok if you not pay nothing just have a friend and shoot one day for fun,. is okay.

anyway it must beset how much cavan sell.

« Reply #394 on: January 10, 2018, 10:08 »
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 Stocksy threat is too boring...

We could officialy call it a Stocksy Yawn.

« Reply #395 on: January 12, 2018, 11:30 »
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For Cavan, I'm in but I don't submit after reading the faqs:
Similar Content, even if not selected, may not be shared with other agencies.
If I'm not mistaken about Stocksy, they have the same requirement for the similar content.

Series exclusivity is normal in macrostock. They all have the same requirement, getty,westend,stocksy.

It is also true that stocksy is normal traditional macrostock, so that really isnt the revolution.

I anyway dont understand why people compare it to Shutterstock and co, stocksy is targeting macrostock customers, it has nothing to do with micro.

The revolution comes in the form of being a coowner.

stocksy can never be sold to an outsider, the artists are not just suppliers, they are the agency.

There are many small macrostock agencies that you can supply to and they will sell direct and also distribute, but only on stocksy do you hold a piece of the pie.

Plus the very supportive management, you can talk to the editors directly and also get shooting tips from experienced art directors.

If you only want a macrostock portal, there are many places you can apply to. Nothing wrong with being a part of several places, also because stocksy wants a very specific style...so all the content you shoot that is not their style...you still need a sales outlet for that.

So good luck to all that applied :)


« Reply #396 on: January 12, 2018, 11:46 »
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For Cavan, I'm in but I don't submit after reading the faqs:
Similar Content, even if not selected, may not be shared with other agencies.
If I'm not mistaken about Stocksy, they have the same requirement for the similar content.

Series exclusivity is normal in macrostock. They all have the same requirement, getty,westend,stocksy.

It is also true that stocksy is normal traditional macrostock, so that really isnt the revolution.

I anyway dont understand why people compare it to Shutterstock and co, stocksy is targeting macrostock customers, it has nothing to do with micro.

The revolution comes in the form of being a coowner.

stocksy can never be sold to an outsider, the artists are not just suppliers, they are the agency.

There are many small macrostock agencies that you can supply to and they will sell direct and also distribute, but only on stocksy do you hold a piece of the pie.

Plus the very supportive management, you can talk to the editors directly and also get shooting tips from experienced art directors.

If you only want a macrostock portal, there are many places you can apply to. Nothing wrong with being a part of several places, also because stocksy wants a very specific style...so all the content you shoot that is not their style...you still need a sales outlet for that.

So good luck to all that applied :)

because Royalty Free imagery is associated with microstock?

« Reply #397 on: January 12, 2018, 11:56 »
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Royalty free existed before the micros and 90% of sales on macro is RF.

So no, that cant be the connection.

I think it might be because so many who only do micros are not even aware of the macrostock industry and how large it is and how much money is earned there.

But maybe there is another explanation, but I dont get it.

stocksy content is like cavan,offset,getty,corbis (nowgone), arcangel,westend and hundreds of other macro agencies. Some of these have a typical look to set them apart, while others are generalists and have several artistically styled collections. But it is all traditional macrostock.

But in all these places the artists are just suppliers, not co owners.

At least for me that is the main difference.

ETA: stocksy was founded by Bruce and Brianna and Bruce was the founder of istock, the first microstock agency and got the whole thing rolling. Maybe that is where the comparison with the micros comes from. "The micro guy now doing expensive" or something like that.

But microstock and especially istock was always a lot more than a price point, it was a plattform that allowed talent to rise without interference from the manangement and without all the schmoozing you need in small, restricted places to get in.

The micros are self organizing, successful artists are entrepreneurial, they do their own market research and over time become really, really good in supplying their niche.

Micros also have a much wider mix of talent, a very large number come from non art backgrounds, they are engineers, nurses, IT people, school teachers...i.e. the real world. They might need some help to improve their photo skills, but they knew their professions and subjects very well.

But from the outside, most people didnt understand how crowd sourcing works.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2018, 13:51 by cobalt »

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« Reply #398 on: January 12, 2018, 14:23 »
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I just the expected generic rejection. Oh well...  ::)

« Reply #399 on: January 12, 2018, 14:48 »
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Sorry to hear that.

Maybe explore some other macrostock agency. It really is a very, very big world.


 

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