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« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2015, 19:42 »
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What I don't understand is why RM and Midstock agencies aren't trying to be sure their images are at least technically sound.  Cover all the bases.  The standards have gotten * high in microstock; so why don't they also increase in the market that charges 10x the price?  Pay more and get less?  Oh yeah, that can be found in any market.  When you pay more for something, you're not necessarily getting more.

Many big RM agency collection images high-res have always looked noisy, OOF, or just outright laughable technically every time I've zoomed in.  Maybe it's time the technical bar was raised, across the board.  The smartphone and iphoneography stuff is now bringing the technical standards back down, perhaps.  A camera that's always in your pocket is better than no camera... but does that make the image worth hundreds of dollars, even if it was captured on a piece of crap?  I guess so.  Art is always subjective.  Feed me 3 bottles of sriracha sauce with a few beers and and bunch of old taco meat and let me vomit it on a canvas, and then I can sell it to the highest bidder as .:abstract art:.



I agree with what you said, but I am a little baffled by the illustration. What does alt-text on a snapshot of Bill Nye apparently being hypnotized by electric utility meter have to do with? Just asking.


« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2015, 04:58 »
+8
http://www.success.com/blog/no-more-bad-stock-photos-how-a-great-image-helped-inspire-me-to-launch-stocksy

580% revenue growth is not failure to me


"580% revenue growth" - meaningless. From what, 2$? You might as well start calculating from 0, becasue if it's a new company, and say 50000000000% * infinte growth. When you see numbers like that in financial issues, you can be pretty sure they are taking you for a enormous fool. :) You ppl fall for anything. I am in stocksy, I see the stats they present with TV shop sentences "awesome, cool, etc...", problem is I'm quite decent with math, and some a back of the envelope calculations will tell you it's anything but spectacular. There are a few ppl who got layaway stuff accepted that almost nobody else got thru -because they were too ordinary stock-like. Those guys have quite large ports, had pretty big ones to start with, it probably works for them but hardly anybody else. Otherwise you have guys spending 2000$ on some fashion shoot to achieve that movie-still-with-stars feeling, only to get 3-4 of the  the weirdest most unusable pictures approved from it. Big nah.

« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2015, 05:06 »
+5
Stocksy is a big failure on many levels, and now it seems they are getting desperate for sales. 90% of the the failure is the curation, it is done by 12 year old hispterfan teengirls recruited from random instagram accounts. They are extremely good at picking out the useless, chaotic stuff - to be "so different"... I guess. Just look at the opening page, it has become an ugly mess.

You bash Stocksy every chance you get.  Why do you care so much?  Why don't you just ignore them?

After I'v been on istock for a few months, I bashed Istock too, warning ppl that it's gonna be a trap and huge disappointment, although sales there were ok back than. I saw the clusterf*** coming when I got a dose of their attitude towards contribs from the way they communicated inside (lobo & co) Ppl said similar things like you, that I'm just jealous, and why do I bother, to hell with naysayers they gonna just hoo-ray and upload. Look what's up with that now.

« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2015, 05:10 »
+3
What I don't understand is why RM and Midstock agencies aren't trying to be sure their images are at least technically sound.  Cover all the bases.  The standards have gotten * high in microstock; so why don't they also increase in the market that charges 10x the price?  Pay more and get less?  Oh yeah, that can be found in any market.  When you pay more for something, you're not necessarily getting more.

Many big RM agency collection images high-res have always looked noisy, OOF, or just outright laughable technically every time I've zoomed in.  Maybe it's time the technical bar was raised, across the board.  The smartphone and iphoneography stuff is now bringing the technical standards back down, perhaps.  A camera that's always in your pocket is better than no camera... but does that make the image worth hundreds of dollars, even if it was captured on a piece of crap?  I guess so.  Art is always subjective.  Feed me 3 bottles of sriracha sauce with a few beers and and bunch of old taco meat and let me vomit it on a canvas, and then I can sell it to the highest bidder as .:abstract art:.




That might just be the biggest reason they failed. On the other hand, micros should charge more, always should have.

jen

« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2015, 06:55 »
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Stocksy is a big failure on many levels, and now it seems they are getting desperate for sales. 90% of the the failure is the curation, it is done by 12 year old hispterfan teengirls recruited from random instagram accounts. They are extremely good at picking out the useless, chaotic stuff - to be "so different"... I guess. Just look at the opening page, it has become an ugly mess.

You bash Stocksy every chance you get.  Why do you care so much?  Why don't you just ignore them?

After I'v been on istock for a few months, I bashed Istock too, warning ppl that it's gonna be a trap and huge disappointment, although sales there were ok back than. I saw the clusterf*** coming when I got a dose of their attitude towards contribs from the way they communicated inside (lobo & co) Ppl said similar things like you, that I'm just jealous, and why do I bother, to hell with naysayers they gonna just hoo-ray and upload. Look what's up with that now.

I didn't say anything about you being jealous. I asked why you care so much about Stocksy. I don't believe you are a Stocksy member. You claim to have inside info but your facts are all wrong. I just don't believe you.

« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2015, 08:08 »
+4
Stocksy is a big failure on many levels, and now it seems they are getting desperate for sales. 90% of the the failure is the curation, it is done by 12 year old hispterfan teengirls recruited from random instagram accounts. They are extremely good at picking out the useless, chaotic stuff - to be "so different"... I guess. Just look at the opening page, it has become an ugly mess.

You bash Stocksy every chance you get.  Why do you care so much?  Why don't you just ignore them?

After I'v been on istock for a few months, I bashed Istock too, warning ppl that it's gonna be a trap and huge disappointment, although sales there were ok back than. I saw the clusterf*** coming when I got a dose of their attitude towards contribs from the way they communicated inside (lobo & co) Ppl said similar things like you, that I'm just jealous, and why do I bother, to hell with naysayers they gonna just hoo-ray and upload. Look what's up with that now.

I didn't say anything about you being jealous. I asked why you care so much about Stocksy. I don't believe you are a Stocksy member. You claim to have inside info but your facts are all wrong. I just don't believe you.

I care exactly because I am a member, and it has been a huge disappointment & getting worse. The biggest waste of time for little return in stock yet. Especially sad, because I still think the co-op model is great. A great business model totally wasted by childish mismanagement of their virtual assets.

« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2015, 08:17 »
+2
Stocksy is a big failure on many levels, and now it seems they are getting desperate for sales. 90% of the the failure is the curation, it is done by 12 year old hispterfan teengirls recruited from random instagram accounts. They are extremely good at picking out the useless, chaotic stuff - to be "so different"... I guess. Just look at the opening page, it has become an ugly mess.

You bash Stocksy every chance you get.  Why do you care so much?  Why don't you just ignore them?

After I'v been on istock for a few months, I bashed Istock too, warning ppl that it's gonna be a trap and huge disappointment, although sales there were ok back than. I saw the clusterf*** coming when I got a dose of their attitude towards contribs from the way they communicated inside (lobo & co) Ppl said similar things like you, that I'm just jealous, and why do I bother, to hell with naysayers they gonna just hoo-ray and upload. Look what's up with that now.

I didn't say anything about you being jealous. I asked why you care so much about Stocksy. I don't believe you are a Stocksy member. You claim to have inside info but your facts are all wrong. I just don't believe you.

I care exactly because I am a member, and it has been a huge disappointment & getting worse. The biggest waste of time for little return in stock yet. Especially sad, because I still think the co-op model is great. A great business model totally wasted by childish mismanagement of their virtual assets.

I'm really puzzled. I'm really new there and with small collection but my returns have been really good. So much better than Getty for me. How big is your portfolio?

jen

« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2015, 08:21 »
+1
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

50%

« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2015, 08:44 »
+4
this thread says it all why microstock photography is soooo terrible bad, repeating, soulless, indefinitely boring and technically perfect.

« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2015, 09:14 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2015, 09:22 »
+3
Stocksy is a big failure on many levels, and now it seems they are getting desperate for sales. 90% of the the failure is the curation, it is done by 12 year old hispterfan teengirls recruited from random instagram accounts. They are extremely good at picking out the useless, chaotic stuff - to be "so different"... I guess. Just look at the opening page, it has become an ugly mess.

You bash Stocksy every chance you get.  Why do you care so much?  Why don't you just ignore them?

After I'v been on istock for a few months, I bashed Istock too, warning ppl that it's gonna be a trap and huge disappointment, although sales there were ok back than. I saw the clusterf*** coming when I got a dose of their attitude towards contribs from the way they communicated inside (lobo & co) Ppl said similar things like you, that I'm just jealous, and why do I bother, to hell with naysayers they gonna just hoo-ray and upload. Look what's up with that now.

I didn't say anything about you being jealous. I asked why you care so much about Stocksy. I don't believe you are a Stocksy member. You claim to have inside info but your facts are all wrong. I just don't believe you.

I care exactly because I am a member, and it has been a huge disappointment & getting worse. The biggest waste of time for little return in stock yet. Especially sad, because I still think the co-op model is great. A great business model totally wasted by childish mismanagement of their virtual assets.

This seems like sour grapes. Stocksy is reporting good earnings. Many Stocksy members seem very content with their earnings. Your particular portfolio isn't doing well there, so you bash the whole place.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2015, 09:24 »
+8
this thread says it all why microstock photography is soooo terrible bad, repeating, soulless, indefinitely boring and technically perfect.
Stocksy definitely has great work, the majority of it, but many of the images I have in those packs have nothing to do with being great images. I am all for technically inferior images if its a great impacting image, but there is no excuse for messing up a studio shot, or accepting an out of focus poorly lit iphone noisefest.

« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2015, 09:27 »
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this thread says it all why microstock photography is soooo terrible bad, repeating, soulless, indefinitely boring and technically perfect.

Just look up SS facebook page, they have plenty of special little collections, they probably have a lot more stocksy-esque stuff then stocksy. Many way bette than juts insatfilterstyling. I don't consider that a good thing actually, but it's there. I wouldn't put more creative stuff on micros.

jen

« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2015, 09:43 »
+3
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2015, 09:52 »
+7
If any one want's to get out of Stocksy I can take his place there  8)

And if they have "bad" photos there, good for me, I have some good ones  ;D

« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2015, 10:23 »
+2
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2015, 10:28 »
+3
If you're a member, and you want to talk about your experiences, feel free to message Rob or myself, here, or there.  Anonymously wouldn't be the best, but I wouldn't want anyone to feel threatened from concerns, valid or otherwise.

« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2015, 11:00 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2015, 11:09 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

You might want to read my post again (or just read it). I don't start conversing with ppl who talk like that. If I want to hear more "kick ass" deals, I'll watch TV shop or ads for payday lenders.

« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2015, 11:15 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

You might want to read my post again (or just read it). I don't start conversing with ppl who talk like that. If I want to hear more "kick ass" deals, I'll watch TV shop or ads for payday lenders.

So you have a relatively good acceptance rate (not sure how you can figure that out based on other people's portfolios), but you say you aren't doing well there financially. What keeps you uploading to Stocksy? Why not put them somewhere else where your experience shows they would do better?

jen

« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2015, 11:16 »
+1
I just looked at past meeting recaps and the word "kick-ass" doesn't appear anywhere, plus they are available in full for members.

How many images do you have online?  Have you ever tried to talk to the editors about your declines?  Why do you keep uploading if you say you aren't making any money on Stocksy?

« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2015, 11:22 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

You might want to read my post again (or just read it). I don't start conversing with ppl who talk like that. If I want to hear more "kick ass" deals, I'll watch TV shop or ads for payday lenders.

Seriously?? You refused to talk to them just because they don't talk the same way as you??? Come on, you should have better reason for avoiding talking to them. 

« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2015, 12:39 »
+2
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

You might want to read my post again (or just read it). I don't start conversing with ppl who talk like that. If I want to hear more "kick ass" deals, I'll watch TV shop or ads for payday lenders.

Seriously?? You refused to talk to them just because they don't talk the same way as you??? Come on, you should have better reason for avoiding talking to them.

He refuses to talk because he doesn't want to talk. He wants to Troll.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #73 on: June 16, 2015, 12:42 »
+3
Fantastic guys. You dont come across as a cult at all, where the person outing some criticism on the cult is ousted

« Reply #74 on: June 16, 2015, 13:07 »
0
I care exactly because I am a member

Prove it.

Lol, you are joke. :) What am I supposed to do, copy paste from their forums? I can do that for you, but I just didn't want to intrude on ppls stocky insider stuff.

Okay, since you're content hiding behind the comfort of anonymity, let's pretend you are a Stocksy member.  That would mean you're also a part owner of the company.  Since you're such a big fan of the co-op business model, what have you done to contribute?  Have you proposed any resolutions?  Voted at the meetings?  Participated in any forum discussions?  Responded to any requests for community input?  Contacted HQ with ideas?  Have you done anything at all besides bash the company any chance you get?

I did vote previously. But when one of their meetings ended, they wrote on the site that they wouldn't post a transcript, like they promised, (because it would be long and boring or some similar excuse), but instead we get  a "kick-ass" summary. Woo-hoo. Also a few times I got the rejection for some shots that tehy 'don't want peopole juts posing by themselves without context, because that's contrived and too ordinary-stock-like'. Than I visited stocksy front page and the curated collection there was loaded with shots of peple  posing alone, pretty forced (vsisbly amateur models). After reading, seeing all of that I decided to stay away from the whole thing beyond uploading and the most necessary communication with the so called "curators" :)

...and before you start whining again: I have good acceptance % there. I looked around and it was very clear that most ppl get a lot less shots from their series accepted then me - but sorry, other people's gullibility won't change my opinion.

Interesting. So, you have never voiced out your dissatisfaction there, never participate in the forum except lurking and come whining here.

You might want to read my post again (or just read it). I don't start conversing with ppl who talk like that. If I want to hear more "kick ass" deals, I'll watch TV shop or ads for payday lenders.

Seriously?? You refused to talk to them just because they don't talk the same way as you??? Come on, you should have better reason for avoiding talking to them.

You are a troll. I clearly said how they talk like we are in kindergarten. I know this style it totally repulses me and all intelligent / pro ppl I've ever known. From more than a decade of workplace experience it always represented ppl who cannot be negotiated with. the "ye, ye whatever, thisiscool coz' wearecool" untill stuff breaks down ppl.


 

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