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Title: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 23, 2013, 05:51
This site has just been found using Stocksy pics, gives a flavour of what a live site looks like. I think one of Tyler's pics is in there on the about page.

http://squarecraft.co/ (http://squarecraft.co/)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: pro@stockphotos on May 23, 2013, 07:10
The company could have just gone to the local park with an employee and laptop at sunset with an iphone to capture this image.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Mellimage on May 23, 2013, 07:15
The company could have just gone to the local park with an employee and laptop at sunset with an iphone to capture this image.

"How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb?
50.
One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that!""

- Anonymous
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 23, 2013, 07:24
The company could have just gone to the local park with an employee and laptop at sunset with an iphone to capture this image.

"How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb?
50.
One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that!""

- Anonymous

 ;D Hadn't heard that one before.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: cathyslife on May 23, 2013, 07:49
I applaud stocksy for accepting an image (front page pic) that would have gotten rejected at all the micro sites including istock...blown out highlights, poor lighting...
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 23, 2013, 08:18
I applaud stocksy for accepting an image (front page pic) that would have gotten rejected at all the micro sites including istock...blown out highlights, poor lighting...
To be fair, there are some ingested Agency pics that are 'worse' ...
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 24, 2013, 12:38
The company could have just gone to the local park with an employee and laptop at sunset with an iphone to capture this image.

"How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb?
50.
One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that!""

- Anonymous

Probably 10,000 or so have actually changed that particular light bulb
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: SNP on May 24, 2013, 20:28
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 25, 2013, 04:46
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

In fairness, Stocksy seems to be taking an approach that requires judgment on the holistic merits of an image rather than the very narrow “is it technically good and forget about the rest” approach that IS uses and monkeys could be trained to do – other than that, hard to see how the offering differs from micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

All true but the concept is just about as hackneyed as you can get – probably better than many “girl with laptop” shots but probably not as good as others – nothing “completely different” here.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.

I see nobody cutting down the work  I do see folks reacting to the “look at this, isn’t it wonderful” vibe when, at the end of the day, it’s a nice, good stock image but nothing wonderful. 
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 25, 2013, 05:15
There's room in stock for all kinds of images and there seems to be a trend at the moment towards the more "instagram" sort of picture.

But while this shot is fine - after all, it fitted the client's requirements so there was a need for it - I really wonder (a) what sort of resale potential it has and (b) now a collection with pictures like this in it thinks it is going to position itself as some sort of must-go-to market leader.  Or is it just going to be competing with Cutcaster for its ranking on this board?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: pro@stockphotos on May 25, 2013, 08:19
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.

You are right, it was bad manners to malign anohters effort.  What did you say about Yuri again?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Smithore on May 25, 2013, 08:44
Look at this Instagram (Nickelback Parody) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-dD-QKYN4#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 25, 2013, 08:55
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Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mlwinphoto on May 25, 2013, 09:51
So, while many of you are criticizing the image and the agency that licensed it this particular buyer found that, among the millions of images available to him, this is the one that best suited his needs/wants and he paid to license it as a result.  I thought that's why we, as contributors, were  'doing stock' in the first place.

Kudos to the photog and the agency.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gostwyck on May 25, 2013, 11:34
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.

I'd agree. I knew it was an excellent image as soon as I saw it ... but I couldn't have defined exactly why as you have done so explicitly.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 25, 2013, 11:42
So, while many of you are criticizing the image and the agency that licensed it this particular buyer found that, among the millions of images available to him, this is the one that best suited his needs/wants and he paid to license it as a result.  I thought that's why we, as contributors, were  'doing stock' in the first place.

Kudos to the photog and the agency.

The only thing being criticised is the notion that we are seeing something exceptional - someone used a stock image on a website - wow that's just extraordinary  :)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: SNP on May 25, 2013, 11:54
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.

You are right, it was bad manners to malign anohters effort.  What did you say about Yuri again?

I shouldn't bite, but FWIW I didn't say anything about his work. simply about his choice to use his considerable influence in a less than desirable manner..in my opinion. the Seans and Yuris have pull, it's that simple. what they do influences others in the industry. maybe that isn't a responsibility they choose to take on, but Sean has always given back and shared his experience and knowledge with everyone at all levels in the industry, whereas Yuri ( and I don't know him) seems to be out for Yuri alone. that's fine if that's his choice, I just don't agree with it. I think it's possible to do what you think is right within values we share as an industry group, and still make strong decisions for your own income.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mlwinphoto on May 25, 2013, 12:12
So, while many of you are criticizing the image and the agency that licensed it this particular buyer found that, among the millions of images available to him, this is the one that best suited his needs/wants and he paid to license it as a result.  I thought that's why we, as contributors, were  'doing stock' in the first place.

Kudos to the photog and the agency.

The only thing being criticised is the notion that we are seeing something exceptional - someone used a stock image on a website - wow that's just extraordinary  :)

Perhaps the buyer thought it was exceptional.  What you or I think doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 25, 2013, 12:23
In fairness, Stocksy seems to be taking an approach that requires judgment on the holistic merits of an image rather than the very narrow “is it technically good and forget about the rest” approach that IS uses and monkeys could be trained to do – other than that, hard to see how the offering differs from micro.
Do you honestly think that most of the results on the search for 'bird' have 'holistic merit'?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: cuppacoffee on May 25, 2013, 12:48
There are some images there that I think are really crisp and clean like the "surfer riding a barreling wave" in the outdoor adventure category. Others will fit the new "look" that seems to be emerging for the younger crowd, or those who want to appeal to a younger (perception "hip"?) customer base. I like those too and enjoy seeing more "artsy" photos whether they are classified as stock or as art. Does stocksy let the buyer know if the image(s) that they are purchasing have been sold before and if so, how many times? The problem with some unique images is that you don't want to pick those that have been used before, those that might be recognizable because of their style. As a buyer, I wouldn't want to have the same cool image as someone else helping to sell my product or services. That seems to defeat the purpose of their prominent statement, "Royalty-Free photos, you can't find anywhere else."
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 25, 2013, 18:46
In fairness, Stocksy seems to be taking an approach that requires judgment on the holistic merits of an image rather than the very narrow “is it technically good and forget about the rest” approach that IS uses and monkeys could be trained to do – other than that, hard to see how the offering differs from micro.
Do you honestly think that most of the results on the search for 'bird' have 'holistic merit'?
Just tried to see but search doesn't work on IE8 (work laptop) - will definitely check it out on another one tomorrow.  This in itself is not great as the folks I'm contracting for at the moment are a major financial services player who presumably would be a big consumer of stock images ::)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 25, 2013, 19:04
there's really little sense to comparing the way an image would be treated in micro; Stocksy isn't trying to be micro.

there are so many great things about that front page photo. her expression is so genuine, it's warm and feel good, the red glasses are in the perfect spot IMO. and that the shot is at eye level as though you're seated right in front of her makes it really easy to connect with. completely different type of imagery, that's kinda totally the point.

it's just bad manners to so dismissively cut down another photographer's work with such trite comments.

You are right, it was bad manners to malign anohters effort.  What did you say about Yuri again?

I shouldn't bite, but FWIW I didn't say anything about his work. simply about his choice to use his considerable influence in a less than desirable manner..in my opinion. the Seans and Yuris have pull, it's that simple. what they do influences others in the industry. maybe that isn't a responsibility they choose to take on, but Sean has always given back and shared his experience and knowledge with everyone at all levels in the industry, whereas Yuri ( and I don't know him) seems to be out for Yuri alone. that's fine if that's his choice, I just don't agree with it. I think it's possible to do what you think is right within values we share as an industry group, and still make strong decisions for your own income.
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 25, 2013, 19:19
In fairness, Stocksy seems to be taking an approach that requires judgment on the holistic merits of an image rather than the very narrow “is it technically good and forget about the rest” approach that IS uses and monkeys could be trained to do – other than that, hard to see how the offering differs from micro.
Do you honestly think that most of the results on the search for 'bird' have 'holistic merit'?
The photos on this site have nothing to do with birds? But if we're going down that road one of yours can cost $240 on iStock, these photos cost the designer $25 for a medium, half the price of the comparable size as E+ on istock and 25% of the cost of a Vetta.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 25, 2013, 19:30
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Indeed he is a man of the people, it was admirable the way he approached Getty over the Google deal. He can also be very humble, like the time he posted his $18000 dollar day, and not afraid to ask for our help in times of trouble with Rayban, hallowed be his name.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 25, 2013, 20:00
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Indeed he is a man of the people, it was admirable the way he approached Getty over the Google deal. He can also be very humble, like the time he posted his $18000 dollar day, and not afraid to ask for our help in times of trouble with Rayban, hallowed be his name.
Bitter much?

Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: luissantos84 on May 25, 2013, 21:48
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Indeed he is a man of the people, it was admirable the way he approached Getty over the Google deal. He can also be very humble, like the time he posted his $18000 dollar day, and not afraid to ask for our help in times of trouble with Rayban, hallowed be his name.

I agree, Yuri never was a community guy and never will, believe we should follow his example more often...
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 26, 2013, 01:52
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Indeed he is a man of the people, it was admirable the way he approached Getty over the Google deal. He can also be very humble, like the time he posted his $18000 dollar day, and not afraid to ask for our help in times of trouble with Rayban, hallowed be his name.

I agree, Yuri never was a community guy and never will, believe we should follow his example more often...
Where is it written that Yuri went to talk with Getty over the Google deal? Is that confirmed or is that gossip?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 26, 2013, 02:01
Wait I dont get this, so its not ok to be critical of an average image but it is ok to slag off a person en mass and then be big about because you didnt criticize his work?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: luissantos84 on May 26, 2013, 02:04
So you dont know him, but judge him at the same time. Yuri has done his fair share of sharing as well. He helped loads of people as far as I know. So Yuri looks after Yuri, and thats a reason to criticize him? What a load of tosh. Do some reading on Yuri and you'll be surprised.
Indeed he is a man of the people, it was admirable the way he approached Getty over the Google deal. He can also be very humble, like the time he posted his $18000 dollar day, and not afraid to ask for our help in times of trouble with Rayban, hallowed be his name.

I agree, Yuri never was a community guy and never will, believe we should follow his example more often...
Where is it written that Yuri went to talk with Getty over the Google deal? Is that confirmed or is that gossip?

Any deal that Getty is getting money in their pocket for, made possible by my (and your images), but that we do not collect a royalty on, is a scandal and deserves attention.
My legal team and I do not quite know what to do here. Is the current situation as follows: The photographers will not get any royalty from the Google deal, images are licensed for free? Are there any news out there that we have not heard off? Is this license not basically a very liberal "extended" license for which we should receive normal pay? How is it possible for Getty to avoid this?
I am meeting with Getty Executives Monday the 28 in London to discus this among other things. Are there updates on the matter of significant character.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 26, 2013, 02:26
Ok thanks, I think I remember now. But it has little to do with Yuri not helping other people. He runs a charity program, however, I am sure someone will find something to knock that as well.

Anyway, the thread has gone off topic.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 26, 2013, 05:34
In fairness, Stocksy seems to be taking an approach that requires judgment on the holistic merits of an image rather than the very narrow “is it technically good and forget about the rest” approach that IS uses and monkeys could be trained to do – other than that, hard to see how the offering differs from micro.

Do you honestly think that most of the results on the search for 'bird' have 'holistic merit'?

The photos on this site have nothing to do with birds? But if we're going down that road one of yours can cost $240 on iStock, these photos cost the designer $25 for a medium, half the price of the comparable size as E+ on istock and 25% of the cost of a Vetta.

I don't understand the first question at all. Although it is true that an embarrassing proportion of images showing up on the Bird search on stocksy either don't have birds or you'd need a microscope to find them (just because a wide, sweeping landscape 'probably' has birds in it somewhere shouldn't automatically trigger the 'bird' keyword), there are still some Stocksy photos with actual birds in them. I was only questioning the idea that these images, taken as a whole, have 'holistic merit' that makes them in any sense superior to what's already available in the established micros.

However, most of my bird pics are in the ordinary collection so nothing like that dear, and some are in the Value collection (a lot more than the 2 which are Vetta, one of which is only available at M).
My discussion was not about prices, but about me being genuinely confused about the major hype that Stocksy was going to be different to the other micros and in a good way, but the quality standards seem to be vary variable, for a curated collection, in the area I have most interest.

Another question: once someone is 'in' do they just upload all their pics without further curation?

And finally, what is intrinsically or holistically better or even 'different' about the four pictures of the undercroft of Bute Hall on Stocksy
http://www.stocksy.com/search?text=Glasgow (http://www.stocksy.com/search?text=Glasgow)
 compared to those on iStock
http://www.istockphoto.com/search/text/Glasgow%20cloisters/filetype/photos/source/basic#1f1a95bb (http://www.istockphoto.com/search/text/Glasgow%20cloisters/filetype/photos/source/basic#1f1a95bb)
or Shutterstock:
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&search_tracking_id=OIcITxXBehmFCsgaw9pHHg&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=Glasgow+cloisters&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1 (http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&search_tracking_id=OIcITxXBehmFCsgaw9pHHg&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=Glasgow+cloisters&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1)
etc?
NB, I am in no way knocking the Stocksy undercroft images, and I'll save anyone looking by saying upfront I have no pics of this location. It's just that they consist 4/5 of Stocksy's Glasgow offering.

I realise it sounds as though I just want to bash Stocksy. I don't. At the beginning I was very excited about it even though I somehow thought it would only be accepting fantastic lifestyle images. Notice I make no comment about the lifestyle images, as it's not my modus operandi. I also have not commented on the profit share, as that's clearly much more in the artists' favour. It's just that the vaunted promises of 'difference' and 'quality' don't seem to being 'holistically' implemented.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gemmy12 on May 26, 2013, 07:09
Good points liz..
I also heard that stocksy has been quite strict on curating images of even very good photogs (in my opinion) but even after being so choosy i dont find any extra ordinary images or different (yeah some are definitely impressive) than some available in other stock sites. Probably stock photography is selling those types of images. Though i know stocksy and their people have good intention, at least for we photographers.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 26, 2013, 09:03
In general, their travel images are very good (if not very numerous). I noticed one photographer who is also on a leading micro and I see they have accepted only his most striking work - though the fact they've taken his HDR and left his ordinary shots does seem at odds with the policy on gritty realism.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: aspp on May 26, 2013, 10:51
the policy on gritty realism.

Policy of gritty realism ?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 26, 2013, 11:10
the policy on gritty realism.

Policy of gritty realism ?

From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images unlike anything customers will be able to find anywhere else. When he uses the work authentic he means a photograph that doesn’t look staged, pretend, forced or unrealistic."
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Monty-m-gue on May 26, 2013, 11:10
Not sure I've seen Stocksy and 'gritty realism' in the same sentence before!?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: falstafff on May 26, 2013, 11:22
the policy on gritty realism.

Policy of gritty realism ?

From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images unlike anything customers will be able to find anywhere else. When he uses the work authentic he means a photograph that doesn’t look staged, pretend, forced or unrealistic."

really!  well he better go for editorial work then. dirty workers with filthy hands and real female models with pot bellies and double chins. :D
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: aspp on May 26, 2013, 12:10
From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images


Trends people have a nebulous sense of what they mean when they talk about authenticity.

New Statesman: Give Me The Real Thing (http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/food-and-drink/2013/02/give-me-real-thing)

Getty Images Curve (http://curve.gettyimages.com/article/gap-toothed-authenticity)

Getty Again (http://curve.gettyimages.com/article/ive-never-felt-closer-to-the-world)

Authenticity: New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/fashion/for-only-the-authentic-cultural-studies.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

Design Week: 'Authenticity' in branding - How real can you fake it? (http://www.designweek.co.uk/industry-voice/authenticity-in-branding-how-real-can-you-fake-it/3034923.article)

Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 26, 2013, 17:51
From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images unlike anything customers will be able to find anywhere else. When he uses the work authentic he means a photograph that doesn’t look staged, pretend, forced or unrealistic."
That would be the vulture in the party hat.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: JPSDK on May 26, 2013, 18:17
From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images


Trends people have a nebulous sense of what they mean when they talk about authenticity.

New Statesman: Give Me The Real Thing ([url]http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/food-and-drink/2013/02/give-me-real-thing[/url])

Getty Images Curve ([url]http://curve.gettyimages.com/article/gap-toothed-authenticity[/url])

Getty Again ([url]http://curve.gettyimages.com/article/ive-never-felt-closer-to-the-world[/url])

Authenticity: New York Times ([url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/fashion/for-only-the-authentic-cultural-studies.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0[/url])

Design Week: 'Authenticity' in branding - How real can you fake it? ([url]http://www.designweek.co.uk/industry-voice/authenticity-in-branding-how-real-can-you-fake-it/3034923.article[/url])

Those are very interesting links and very interesting reading.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gillian vann on May 26, 2013, 22:45
there are tutes on keywording on the Stocksy site and it appears that some are being a little enthusiastic, despite the tutorial giving a very good "how to". There are quite a lot of non-stock photographers on Stocksy so they may need to settle down a little. I believe keywords will be limited soon, which is also a good thing IMHO.

Honestly I don't see how you can single out any site for keywording perfection. There seems to be spammers everywhere, and while the general mentality of Stocksy contributors is more unified and happy clappy, I guess there's always going to be a few (out of the 300+ photographers they now have) who have to tweak the rules for themselves.

if you do a search for "christmas" at iS on the first page you get: a dove, starry skies, a crystal ball, a VIP rope, a car with a bow, red velvet curtains, page 2 also has another 5 that shouldn't be there. SS is far better, nothing jumps out at me as being wrong until page 4.


Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 27, 2013, 04:51
Honestly I don't see how you can single out any site for keywording perfection. There seems to be spammers everywhere, and while the general mentality of Stocksy contributors is more unified and happy clappy, I guess there's always going to be a few (out of the 300+ photographers they now have) who have to tweak the rules for themselves.
I've seen some spamming/misidentification in wildlife on Stocksy, just like everywhere else, mainly from people who generally do other things but sometimes shoot the occasional animal. Also some incompatible multiple destinations, like everywhere else.

But Stocksy is not supposed to be 'like everywhere else'. That's the rub.

If I were starting a new agency (which I have no intention of doing), I'd have keywording/search as top priority equal with image quality. I have no time for spammers, and professionals should do their research properly and should very seldom make identification mistakes.
Buyers would be so grateful for a clean search.
It's something a new agency could/should embed right from the start.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Silberkorn on May 27, 2013, 07:39
Maybe I'm one of the "happy clappy ones", but I love Stocksy´s Design and approach. The sense of "unity" is something that's gone for too long at IS. And this has got power IMO which was never valued at IS lately. For all those criticicing everything about the new site right now, please remind they´re online since just 2 months...
I hope it will succeed - and if it does it may also have hopefully influence on other agencies who have increasingly maximised their own profit on the back of the suppliers - not only in microstock. We as Photographers do not have a Lobby or Unity to protect our work and give us a fairer share - but we should have. Now someone comes along with a good and fair concept like Bruce did, I personally think this deserves at least some respect if you prefer not to belong to the happy clappies... I do not mean to be offending, just my 2 cents :)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 27, 2013, 07:58
^^ No one is denying that aspect of Stocksy, its other points that are being made here.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: MichaelJayFoto on May 27, 2013, 08:47
All true but the concept is just about as hackneyed as you can get – probably better than many “girl with laptop” shots but probably not as good as others – nothing “completely different” here.

Maybe you read something different into the "completely different" than I do - it is about the collection as a whole to be completely different than what other agencies are showing. At many other places, buyers have to wade through hundreds of mediocre images to find a few good ones. It doesn't mean you can't find any good images anywhere else.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 27, 2013, 12:53
I'm a literal type of individual so I take "completely different" to mean "completely different".   :)  It ain't, collection is a slight variation on a theme, a nice approach but nothing startling or ground breaking..

Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Freedom on May 27, 2013, 14:22
I doubt we can ever define "completely different" for long. Because, if being completely different is proven to be successful, there will be lots of copycats, including Stocksy shooters themselves. They would follow their own path to success and repeat the formula with images of similar style to "normal" agencies before long. Unless Sstocksy is hugely successful from the start, you cannot blame its contributors' need to generate "normal" income.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gillian vann on May 28, 2013, 03:46
Now someone comes along with a good and fair concept like Bruce did, I personally think this deserves at least some respect if you prefer not to belong to the happy clappies... I do not mean to be offending, just my 2 cents :)
I wasn't being disparaging. The ethos over there is very different and quite wonderful. Everyone wants to pitch in to make the site work and there's nil snarkiness in the forums. Sure we can see flaws but those are brought up and then suggestions are made on how to improve and both admins and contributors chat freely. There's a postitivity that things can (and will) improve that's exciting to be a part of.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 03:53
Now someone comes along with a good and fair concept like Bruce did, I personally think this deserves at least some respect if you prefer not to belong to the happy clappies... I do not mean to be offending, just my 2 cents :)
I wasn't being disparaging. The ethos over there is very different and quite wonderful. Everyone wants to pitch in to make the site work and there's nil snarkiness in the forums. Sure we can see flaws but those are brought up and then suggestions are made on how to improve and both admins and contributors chat freely. There's a postitivity that things can (and will) improve that's exciting to be a part of.
Sounds like iStock was back in the Glory Days; though I joined just after Peebert disappeared, so never experienced his forum contributions.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: topol on May 28, 2013, 04:29
the policy on gritty realism.

Policy of gritty realism ?

From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images unlike anything customers will be able to find anywhere else. When he uses the work authentic he means a photograph that doesn’t look staged, pretend, forced or unrealistic."

really!  well he better go for editorial work then. dirty workers with filthy hands and real female models with pot bellies and double chins. :D

Notice they never say real, just 'authentic' stock : ) It's tired old phoneyness. A real shot of shoppers on a street would be: dirty sidewalk with overspilling trashcans, all kinds of cars everywhere, and tired looking people in mismatching clothes holding on to wrinkled, disgusting ugly plastic bags. NOBODY wants that... and if it isn't that, it is a shined up stock shot. If you choose to process it with some film emulation filter, etc, it will be so new and so different to handful an virtual infants, but to an adult who has seen things it's just another, even older and more worn cliche than the micro-style. There's nothing wrong with selling stuff like that and they can even be really nice photos, just don't try pretend it's new and real and revolutionary... pls... it's just sooo exhausting... it's the home shopping network style.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: falstafff on May 28, 2013, 10:47
the policy on gritty realism.

Policy of gritty realism ?



From the Bruce Livingstone interview: " Bruce Livingstone has set out to produce a collection of “authentic” stock images unlike anything customers will be able to find anywhere else. When he uses the work authentic he means a photograph that doesn’t look staged, pretend, forced or unrealistic."

really!  well he better go for editorial work then. dirty workers with filthy hands and real female models with pot bellies and double chins. :D

Notice they never say real, just 'authentic' stock : ) It's tired old phoneyness. A real shot of shoppers on a street would be: dirty sidewalk with overspilling trashcans, all kinds of cars everywhere, and tired looking people in mismatching clothes holding on to wrinkled, disgusting ugly plastic bags. NOBODY wants that... and if it isn't that, it is a shined up stock shot. If you choose to process it with some film emulation filter, etc, it will be so new and so different to handful an virtual infants, but to an adult who has seen things it's just another, even older and more worn cliche than the micro-style. There's nothing wrong with selling stuff like that and they can even be really nice photos, just don't try pretend it's new and real and revolutionary... pls... it's just sooo exhausting... it's the home shopping network style.

Well each to themselves, live and let live and all that. The other hypo Offset dont promise to be much more does it? as I said in another thread. This is wonderful advertising, a bit of limelight here and there, showing people you are still around.
Now is it going to sell or not? thats another story. Somehow I dont think they are too worried about that as long as people are reminded they are there, still around.
I dont think he meant new as in new material. He probably meant something a little bit differant. better or worse. :)

Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 10:56
Ok someone got a sale, great.  There is a place to post these finds so the forum doesn't get full of these kinds of posts.   http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/)

Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 11:10
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: aspp on May 28, 2013, 11:14
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 28, 2013, 11:23
differant.

There is someone who misspells different the same way  ;)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: luissantos84 on May 28, 2013, 11:25
differant.

There is someone who misspells different the same way  ;)

jackpoooooooot! :D
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 28, 2013, 11:28
differant.


There is someone who misspells different the same way  ;)


jackpoooooooot! :D


http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/where-is-stock-agencies-based/msg319420/#msg319420 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/where-is-stock-agencies-based/msg319420/#msg319420)   ;)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: luissantos84 on May 28, 2013, 11:37
differant.


There is someone who misspells different the same way  ;)


jackpoooooooot! :D


[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/where-is-stock-agencies-based/msg319420/#msg319420[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/where-is-stock-agencies-based/msg319420/#msg319420[/url])   ;)


seen that too ;D
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 12:10
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 12:15
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Pedantically, you are right, but with a new agency, people are naturally curious to know whether and how often there are sales, indeed the question has been asked. This Stocksy forum would indeed be worse if people were posting their iS or SS sales, but Stocksy sales aren't too far off the beam for this forum. IMHO.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 12:21
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Pedantically, you are right, but with a new agency, people are naturally curious to know whether and how often there are sales, indeed the question has been asked. This Stocksy forum would indeed be worse if people were posting their iS or SS sales, but Stocksy sales aren't too far off the beam for this forum. IMHO.
I'm curious how well all the sites are doing, I don't want to see a new thread for every time someone sells an image though.  BTW I wasn't talking about posting Shutterstock finds in the Stocksy section, if I posted 1,000 different threads in the Shutterstock section they would be just as annoying which is why there is a sticky thread for people to post those finds.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 12:34
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Pedantically, you are right, but with a new agency, people are naturally curious to know whether and how often there are sales, indeed the question has been asked. This Stocksy forum would indeed be worse if people were posting their iS or SS sales, but Stocksy sales aren't too far off the beam for this forum. IMHO.
I'm curious how well all the sites are doing, I don't want to see a new thread for every time someone sells an image though.  BTW I wasn't talking about posting Shutterstock sales in the Stocksy section, if I posted 1,000 different threads in the Shutterstock section they would be just as annoying which is why there is a sticky thread for people to post those finds.
Actually, you were, as this IS the Stocksy forum.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 12:38
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Pedantically, you are right, but with a new agency, people are naturally curious to know whether and how often there are sales, indeed the question has been asked. This Stocksy forum would indeed be worse if people were posting their iS or SS sales, but Stocksy sales aren't too far off the beam for this forum. IMHO.
I'm curious how well all the sites are doing, I don't want to see a new thread for every time someone sells an image though.  BTW I wasn't talking about posting Shutterstock sales in the Stocksy section, if I posted 1,000 different threads in the Shutterstock section they would be just as annoying which is why there is a sticky thread for people to post those finds.
Actually, you were, as this IS the Stocksy forum.
Ok, I wrote: "I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?"  "this forum" being Microstock Group.  If that was not the correct way to say what I meant then I hope this clears it up for you.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 12:51
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 12:54
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

I'm not sure what "information" you were passing on other than someone bought an image and used it on a website?  There is a place to post that exact kind of "information", http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: aspp on May 28, 2013, 12:56
MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

The miserables are miserable about Stocksy. Everyone else is like wow :)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 12:56
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

I'm not sure what "information" you were passing on other than someone bought an image and used it on a website?  There is a place to post that exact kind of "information", [url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url])


You after Lobo's job?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 12:58
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

I'm not sure what "information" you were passing on other than someone bought an image and used it on a website?  There is a place to post that exact kind of "information", [url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url])


You after Lobo's job?

Depends what the pay is.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 13:01
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

I'm not sure what "information" you were passing on other than someone bought an image and used it on a website?  There is a place to post that exact kind of "information", [url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url])


You after Lobo's job?

Depends what the pay is.


Your soul :-)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 13:04
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

I'm not sure what "information" you were passing on other than someone bought an image and used it on a website?  There is a place to post that exact kind of "information", [url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/tear-sheets-post-your-finds-here/[/url])


You after Lobo's job?

Depends what the pay is.


Your soul :-)

I have often thought ticky must be J Klein.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 13:10
I have often thought ticky must be J Klein.

Really?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Klein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Klein)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 13:11
I have often thought ticky must be J Klein.

Really?  [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Klein[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Klein[/url])

Don't be disingenuous.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 13:13
Don't worry I wont make the same mistake of posting anything Stocksy related, lights out from me.

Don't be put off by the haters. Stocksy is fantastic.
No hate here and I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's work.  There is already a place to show off when you see your work in use.  I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?
Pedantically, you are right, but with a new agency, people are naturally curious to know whether and how often there are sales, indeed the question has been asked. This Stocksy forum would indeed be worse if people were posting their iS or SS sales, but Stocksy sales aren't too far off the beam for this forum. IMHO.
I'm curious how well all the sites are doing, I don't want to see a new thread for every time someone sells an image though.  BTW I wasn't talking about posting Shutterstock sales in the Stocksy section, if I posted 1,000 different threads in the Shutterstock section they would be just as annoying which is why there is a sticky thread for people to post those finds.
Actually, you were, as this IS the Stocksy forum.
Ok, I wrote: "I think this forum would be a lot worse if people started a new thread every time they found a Shutterstock or Istock image in use wouldn't it?"  "this forum" being Microstock Group.  If that was not the correct way to say what I meant then I hope this clears it up for you.

"You can dish it out, but you can't take it."  Erich Segal
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 13:13
What does that mean?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 13:14
MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

The miserables are miserable about Stocksy. Everyone else is like wow :)
And the rest of us, other than 'the miserables' and 'everyone else' are totally neutral.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 13:14
What does that mean?
I'll  leave you to work it out for yourself.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Travelling-light on May 28, 2013, 13:18
This was never a sales thread, it was merely to show a live site used by a Stocksy customer using the photo's in context.

Sadly I thought people here were curious, unfortunately MSG doesn't seem to be able to handle it, so there's no real point passing any more information on.

People are curious Matt, please keep posting about Stocksy. Just ignore the trolls!
Sadly even banning them doesn't work for long, they just can't help themselves and keep coming back under other names.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 28, 2013, 13:55
Agreed. Tick can ignore the Stocksy subforum at their convienence.  As mentioned, as a new agency, postings about sales help inform the community as to the acceptance of a new site.  Obviously, sales at an established location are completely different.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 28, 2013, 14:03
Well, knowing how many you, personally, are selling per day would be genuinely informative, Sean, but just proving that one person has purchased a file really provides no information whatsoever. I'd be surprised if anybody thought there had not been a single sale there by now.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: loop on May 28, 2013, 14:11
With 2600+ reads it seems that theme has some interest. And people not interested can skip it easily.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 28, 2013, 14:14
It's not just a sale, but who is using the image that sold, that is interesting.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: heywoody on May 28, 2013, 15:39
The miserables are miserable about Stocksy. Everyone else is like wow :)
And the rest of us, other than 'the miserables' and 'everyone else' are totally neutral.
[/quote]

That's it in a nutshell!
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 16:08
It's not just a sale, but who is using the image that sold, that is interesting.

What's so interesting about who is using that image?  I must be out of the loop since I haven't heard of them or any of the sites they have worked on.

Maybe I should start another thread showing that they are using Istock exclusive images on their site (the apple and orange):
http://squarecraft.co/blog/ (http://squarecraft.co/blog/) 
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: ShadySue on May 28, 2013, 16:26
Maybe I should start another thread showing that they are using Istock exclusive images on their site (the apple and orange):
[url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url] ([url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url])

Only if you do it in the appropriate forum.  ;)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: shudderstok on May 28, 2013, 16:27
The subject of this forum should be "Stocksy PTOTW". Should I now start an "IS in Action" thread?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 16:29
Maybe I should start another thread showing that they are using Istock exclusive images on their site (the apple and orange):
[url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url] ([url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url])

Only if you do it in the appropriate forum.  ;)

Don't worry I'll start it in the appropriate sub forum.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: shudderstok on May 28, 2013, 16:39
It's not just a sale, but who is using the image that sold, that is interesting.

What's so interesting about who is using that image?  I must be out of the loop since I haven't heard of them or any of the sites they have worked on.

Maybe I should start another thread showing that they are using Istock exclusive images on their site (the apple and orange):
[url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url] ([url]http://squarecraft.co/blog/[/url])


no you can't do that. you can only post about Stocksy and how great it is. if you post about anything other than Stocksy then you are automatically by default deemed a Stocksy hater and a troll. if you post anything about IS, then you are a Getty apologist.
That said, it is so amazingly interesting about who used the image I am surprised that it has not made headlines yet on CNN, or at the very least a forum topic all on it's own where we could all praise and chant together about how interesting it is. Yawn.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: SNP on May 28, 2013, 18:25
I've tried to think of a way to describe why I love the images on Stocksy so much. I'm not referring to my own, but to the work I am consistently affected by as it comes through the system there. the best description came to me while watching a movie yesterday. I was invested in the story, which was beautifully filmed. I thought to myself at least fifty times that a scene should be paused as an amazing photo. to me that is what Stocksy's offerings are like.

I already dislike the word authenticity as the buzzword de jour, but if I use it more literally it fits. the majority (sure not all, since it's subjective) of images on Stocksy have that quality, like a still from a movie that captures a truly genuine moment. not contrived. you just know it when you see it in a really beautiful film and the more work I do for Stocksy, the more I recognize a contrived image versus something more real.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 28, 2013, 18:37
It's not just a sale, but who is using the image that sold, that is interesting.
What's so interesting about who is using that image?  I must be out of the loop since I haven't heard of them or any of the sites they have worked on.

I know you're very literal, so let me rephrase.

Hey, we've got a new agency licensing images.  We've spent weeks discussing who the possible market is for this site.  Hey, here's a site that used an image from this agency.  Now we've got a real world example, in the appropriate forum, we can discuss.

There you go.  Feel free to not worry so much about it.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gostwyck on May 28, 2013, 19:20
I've tried to think of a way to describe why I love the images on Stocksy so much. I'm not referring to my own, but to the work I am consistently affected by as it comes through the system there. the best description came to me while watching a movie yesterday. I was invested in the story, which was beautifully filmed. I thought to myself at least fifty times that a scene should be paused as an amazing photo. to me that is what Stocksy's offerings are like.

I already dislike the word authenticity as the buzzword de jour, but if I use it more literally it fits. the majority (sure not all, since it's subjective) of images on Stocksy have that quality, like a still from a movie that captures a truly genuine moment. not contrived. you just know it when you see it in a really beautiful film and the more work I do for Stocksy, the more I recognize a contrived image versus something more real.

<cringes> That is truly painful to read. If you were well-known that piece would make you a prime contender for Private Eye's 'Pseuds Corner'. I may not be able to recognise a 'contrived image', as you put it, but I can sure recognise a contrived persona.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gostwyck on May 28, 2013, 19:27
Well each to themselves, live and let live and all that. The other hypo Offset dont promise to be much more does it? as I said in another thread. This is wonderful advertising, a bit of limelight here and there, showing people you are still around.
Now is it going to sell or not? thats another story. Somehow I dont think they are too worried about that as long as people are reminded they are there, still around.
I dont think he meant new as in new material. He probably meant something a little bit differant. better or worse. :)

Ahhh __ Meeester Lagereek! <stroking Siamese cat on lap> We've been expecting you!
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 19:54
I've tried to think of a way to describe why I love the images on Stocksy so much. I'm not referring to my own, but to the work I am consistently affected by as it comes through the system there. the best description came to me while watching a movie yesterday. I was invested in the story, which was beautifully filmed. I thought to myself at least fifty times that a scene should be paused as an amazing photo. to me that is what Stocksy's offerings are like.

I already dislike the word authenticity as the buzzword de jour, but if I use it more literally it fits. the majority (sure not all, since it's subjective) of images on Stocksy have that quality, like a still from a movie that captures a truly genuine moment. not contrived. you just know it when you see it in a really beautiful film and the more work I do for Stocksy, the more I recognize a contrived image versus something more real.

<cringes> That is truly painful to read. If you were well-known that piece would make you a prime contender for Private Eye's 'Pseuds Corner'. I may not be able to recognise a 'contrived image', as you put it, but I can sure recognise a contrived persona.

It's like lancing a boil, never a constructive word to say about anything, just relentless moaning. Don't ever work for the Samaritans, they'd be throwing themselves out of the window after two minutes.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gostwyck on May 28, 2013, 20:06
It's like lancing a boil, never a constructive word to say about anything, just relentless moaning. Don't ever work for the Samaritans, they'd be throwing themselves out of the window after two minutes.

Do some research matey-bollocks. You'll find I've plenty of constructive comments about many things ... including recent posts by Stacey, as it happens.

Your little knee-jerk reactions to anything you perceive hostile to Stocksy are more a comment on your inability to evaluate issues on their merits.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: mattdixon on May 28, 2013, 20:24
Why the pseudonym and hidden portfolio?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gostwyck on May 28, 2013, 20:31
Why the pseudonym and hidden portfolio?

Because of the thousands of lurkers. All my friends here know me. If you were to PM me then you would too. I never reply to PM's anonymously.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: gillian vann on May 28, 2013, 23:33
What does that mean?
I think it means at other times you can be very persnickety over wording used by others and you jump on it.

your role as iS fanboy is well documented, but this is a new agency. I think it's ok to be a little excited and talk about first sales and first experiences, either here or in another thread. It's (and I mean: The stocksy board) hardly out of hand just yet.

have you been over in the Symbiostock threads and bag them out too, for being happy about first sales? or is just Stocksy you dislike?
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: tickstock on May 28, 2013, 23:51
What does that mean?
I think it means at other times you can be very persnickety over wording used by others and you jump on it.

your role as iS fanboy is well documented, but this is a new agency. I think it's ok to be a little excited and talk about first sales and first experiences, either here or in another thread. It's (and I mean: The stocksy board) hardly out of hand just yet.

have you been over in the Symbiostock threads and bag them out too, for being happy about first sales? or is just Stocksy you dislike?
Gotcha, I thought I cleared that confusion up already (forum or sub-forum, I'm still not sure which is correct).  The Stocksy thread doesn't just show up for people that want to see every time someone gets a sale, it shows up for everyone and I would rather not block the whole Stocksy forum (sub-forum to be correct maybe?) in case there is some actual information coming out and there is a place to post your finds in one thread already.  About Symbiostock, I've blocked them from showing up for months now so I really have no clue as to what they are doing.  My guess is that they aren't insulting other photographers the way Stocksy does though.
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: SNP on May 29, 2013, 00:05
I've tried to think of a way to describe why I love the images on Stocksy so much. I'm not referring to my own, but to the work I am consistently affected by as it comes through the system there. the best description came to me while watching a movie yesterday. I was invested in the story, which was beautifully filmed. I thought to myself at least fifty times that a scene should be paused as an amazing photo. to me that is what Stocksy's offerings are like.

I already dislike the word authenticity as the buzzword de jour, but if I use it more literally it fits. the majority (sure not all, since it's subjective) of images on Stocksy have that quality, like a still from a movie that captures a truly genuine moment. not contrived. you just know it when you see it in a really beautiful film and the more work I do for Stocksy, the more I recognize a contrived image versus something more real.

<cringes> That is truly painful to read. If you were well-known that piece would make you a prime contender for Private Eye's 'Pseuds Corner'. I may not be able to recognise a 'contrived image', as you put it, but I can sure recognise a contrived persona.

okay, so I waxed a little poetic...but, the thought was true. the movie I was watching was "Take This Waltz", a Canadian film set in Toronto. and my post was slightly tongue-in-cheek because there's a number of dismissive comments about stocksy images. I don't know how you could go through the collection and not be interested in it if you love photography on any level. gostwyck, you're out of practice. I expected something even more colourful outta you...;-)
Title: Re: Stocksy in action...
Post by: leaf on May 29, 2013, 00:53
OK - this thread isn't discussing things any more.. just bickering.  I'll lock it.

Interesting how Stocksy is bringing out such emotions in people.