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Agency Based Discussion => Stocksy => Topic started by: AYA on September 10, 2016, 09:44
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Is this new?
There is some videos on the featured page of Stocksy this morning: https://www.stocksy.com/1101911 (https://www.stocksy.com/1101911)
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Is this new?
There is some videos on the featured page of Stocksy this morning: https://www.stocksy.com/1101911 (https://www.stocksy.com/1101911)
Yep, brand new this week. Cool, eh?
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I bet I don't know the market but what is this? https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video (https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video)
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I bet I don't know the market but what is this? https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video (https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video)
Wow. Alrighty then.
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Hmm I'm sure there will be some awesome stuff.
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I bet I don't know the market but what is this? https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video (https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video)
Wow! "awesome" indeed.
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I guess young, attractive girls, barely wearing any clothes, eating messy ice cream cones and rolling around on the ground for no clear reason, shot by a someone who apparently has Parkinsons, and heavily edited with an imitation lens flare filter, is what Stocksy is looking for. I can already hear them trying to explain how it's "artsy" and not a small step away from cheap amateur pornography.
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No wonder I cant get in there...
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I bet I don't know the market but what is this? https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video (https://www.stocksy.com/skylerdahan#video)
Ahahahah,
this port is very funny.
I wonder if this is the house style, but cannot find how to browse video in Stocksy website
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Looks like he's been watching too much Californication!
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Being rude about other people's work is a slippery slope. Glass houses and all that...
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Being rude about other people's work is a slippery slope. Glass houses and all that...
Sorry Skyler, you're right.
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Being rude about other people's work is a slippery slope. Glass houses and all that...
It might be rude, but it does bring up a legitimate question. How can so many people with great portfolios NOT be chosen to contribute to Stocksy, and yet these videos got approved? With all the bragging about how well the Stocksy collection is "curated", these videos seem very out of place. Maybe it isnt so much about how good a person's work is, but rather who the person is? No wonder people are having problems figuring out what Stocksy is looking for.
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There is a place for all work. I do find the standards confusing there. There is a market for that work so no need to bash the artist. It just seemed to not fit what I thought they would be looking for. I don't see 4K which is no big deal. Pricing is fair so maybe I will submit there one day. Maybe not. For video P5 pays 50% as well and has a much larger collection. Interesting times
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Being rude about other people's work is a slippery slope. Glass houses and all that...
It might be rude, but it does bring up a legitimate question. How can so many people with great portfolios NOT be chosen to contribute to Stocksy, and yet these videos got approved? With all the bragging about how well the Stocksy collection is "curated", these videos seem very out of place. Maybe it isnt so much about how good a person's work is, but rather who the person is? No wonder people are having problems figuring out what Stocksy is looking for.
I don't believe we've been screening for video applicants yet. The current crop of videos are from a tiny group of existing members who were chosen for an initial collection, like Trinette Reed. It's opening to a wider base of members now. I assume you'll see the quirky as well as the more traditional, like the photo collection, as the portfolio gets fleshed out over time. 4K is part of it as well - if you're not seeing it, I assume they weren't submitted in 4k.
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There is a place for all work. I do find the standards confusing there. There is a market for that work so no need to bash the artist. It just seemed to not fit what I thought they would be looking for. I don't see 4K which is no big deal. Pricing is fair so maybe I will submit there one day. Maybe not. For video P5 pays 50% as well and has a much larger collection. Interesting times
Sorry guys, I didn't mean to bash the "artist", but rather the curation.
This guy is clearly pushing the video button of a smartphone for the first time in his life, nothing wrong with that.
How this sort of clips can be accepted in any agency is the real problem
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Ya, Finally a home for my 1968, super 8mm surfing videos!
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There is a place for all work. I do find the standards confusing there. There is a market for that work so no need to bash the artist. It just seemed to not fit what I thought they would be looking for. I don't see 4K which is no big deal. Pricing is fair so maybe I will submit there one day. Maybe not. For video P5 pays 50% as well and has a much larger collection. Interesting times
Sorry guys, I didn't mean to bash the "artist", but rather the curation.
This guy is clearly pushing the video button of a smartphone for the first time in his life, nothing wrong with that.
How this sort of clips can be accepted in any agency is the real problem
According to Sean's post above, the videos that are on Stocksy right now are from existing members. To me that means there probably wasnt any "curation" at all...the prerequisite was only that you were a member already.
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My mom used to make clips like that, back then they were called home movies. She must have been way ahead of her time, too bad there wasn't such an agency like Stocksy back then, she's be curated in a heart beat and probably be considered a master of her craft to this very day.
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There is a market for everything and especially now with mobile stock, i.e. overfiltered "authentic" social media stuff, I wouldn't be suprised if things like these sell.
Since stocksy is just starting out, it makes sense to have a wide variety and then see what customers buy and what sells.
I don't think it is that easy to predict what will sell, unless you are shooting a live heart transplant or other extremly high quality stuff.
I really look forward to uploading video, I am sure I can learn a lot from their tips and discussions.
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There are video editors, separate from the stills editors, as I understand it, so they are curating the collection. It is still a work in progress :)
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This guy is clearly pushing the video button of a smartphone for the first time in his life, nothing wrong with that.
Whether you like them or not, they're 16mm films shot on a Bolex Rex 4. Not a smartphone with a filter.
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You can have all the personal taste and expertise .... but the true talent is knowing what buyers at companies and ad agencies are looking for. Stocksy has its finger on this vibe and has the results to prove it.
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I did say I don't know the market for them and yes this footage has an edgy type feel and I can see it used
in ads. Stocksy is a lot smarter then me at marketing. Hope to grow and learn more!
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You can have all the personal taste and expertise .... but the true talent is knowing what buyers at companies and ad agencies are looking for. Stocksy has its finger on this vibe and has the results to prove it.
I highly doubt that these videos we are discussing have any serious commercial appeal. They are from existing members and more than likely not curated. I would agree that actual curated footage by seasoned Stocksy reviewers would be more aligned with commercial appeal, but these seem like someone just slid them in for the sake of sliding them in. Any video of any kind can appeal to someone at some time for some reason, so where does it stop? I'm being sincere here. About anyone and their mother can shoot this type of work.
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Whether you like them or not, they're 16mm films shot on a Bolex Rex 4. Not a smartphone with a filter.
Call it rude, call it bluntly honest, but this is exactly the response from the Stocksy crowd that I assumed I'd get, and a perfect example of the elitist hipster attitude that most of us can't help but get a little nauseous when exposed to. "It's good because of the super hip vintage camera that was used." Eh, not really. They're good because of the beautiful 19 year old doing her best Lolita impression.
Artificial lens flare/tape damage and artificial shake were likely added to this film footage from that 50 year old camera (pretty obvious in the slo-mo shots when the camera shake has identical speed and motion as the real time shots, the shake filter being added after the footage was slowed down.) End result would have looked practically identical if it was shot on a 4 megapixel camera from 2003 and put through the same post filters.
As someone who chooses to be anonymous here, I try to avoid criticizing others work. This was more about the company, their mind boggling "standards" and the general attitude of inflated self importance that they tend to create. I wish the owner of these clips nothing but success in what they do. I'm sure there's a market for this content. I'd upload these to my port if I made them too. Sex sells.
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Seems like what was given was merely a factual response. To correct an incorrect assumption.
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Whether you like them or not, they're 16mm films shot on a Bolex Rex 4. Not a smartphone with a filter.
Call it rude, call it bluntly honest, but this is exactly the response from the Stocksy crowd that I assumed I'd get, and a perfect example of the elitist hipster attitude that most of us can't help but get a little nauseous when exposed to. "It's good because of the super hip vintage camera that was used."
That's not even remotely what I said. Like Sean pointed out, I merely stated a fact. The videos were shot on 16mm film, and despite your analysis, there was no artificial shake or lens flare added in post production. Those are facts. Do with them what you will.
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Whether you like them or not, they're 16mm films shot on a Bolex Rex 4. Not a smartphone with a filter.
Call it rude, call it bluntly honest, but this is exactly the response from the Stocksy crowd that I assumed I'd get, and a perfect example of the elitist hipster attitude that most of us can't help but get a little nauseous when exposed to. "It's good because of the super hip vintage camera that was used."
That's not even remotely what I said. Like Sean pointed out, I merely stated a fact. The videos were shot on 16mm film, and despite your analysis, there was no artificial shake or lens flare added in post production. Those are facts. Do with them what you will.
You seem really defensive about these clips, are they yours?
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Honestly, if you're going to post nonsensical attacks, you're less likely to get the information you want in the future.
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Honestly, if you're going to post nonsensical attacks, you're less likely to get the information you want in the future.
Are you talking to me?
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Yes. I don't see anything "defensive" in Jen's posts. They are just factual.
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I clearly interpreted her posts differently than you. Apparently others thought she sounded defensive too, based on their posts, which is why I asked if you were talking to me. Jen posts anonymously, I merely wondered if those were her (his?) clips or not. Just a question and my opinion. I didn't see it as a "nonsensical attack", but sorry if that is how you took it.
In fact, I was interested to hear what camera they were shot on and that there was no post-processing. :)
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I'm not anonymous, the link to my portfolio is in my signature.
I don't think my posts sound "really defensive" but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I'm not anonymous, the link to my portfolio is in my signature.
I don't think my posts sound "really defensive" but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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No worries. I think it was the "do with them what you will" and the "whether you like them or not" that gave me the defensive impression. Thanks for pointing out your signature...I missed the S when I clicked on your name and looked at your profile info. I will go take a look at your work sometime today.
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Brilliant body of work, Jen. Thanks for sharing.
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There are no applications so what is the point of discussing videos at Stocksy for the most people here? :) I must admit the prices are too high for many quite ordinary shots there.
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its a perfectly recognizable style, anyone not getting that shouldn't be commenting on those videos
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its a perfectly recognizable style, anyone not getting that shouldn't be commenting on those videos
That doesn't mean everybody has to like that style, and everyone here has a right to comment, including you. :)
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its not about liking its about thinking its amateur work poorly executed. its obviously not.
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these 8mm works are really very cool and stylish. they are really standing out these days..
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I liked those videos with a girl in front of Eiffel. And it's not about the type of camera for me. I don't care.
I think Stocksy is doing a great job. They have many remarkable artists. I have to admit some of their work would've shocked me more if I wasn't graphic designer and couldn't see the final purpose. But I can. And I am happy that my profession over the last decade allowed me to be able to. I think some of their key people are long enough in the market to know better than most of us microstockers. And that's what it's supposed to be. Btw I'm a newbie at microstock as a seller but have been a customer for the last 10 years.
Good luck everyone there, keep up the good work.