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Perrush

« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2007, 11:46 »

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I doubt IS will ever do it, it's the only good point about IS that they at least value the work of their contributors to some extend.

TNX, now I know the reason why they have the lowest payout ratio (20%) of ALL, and I repeat OF ALL, stocksites.

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sharply_done will go exclusive as soon he reached diamond at IS i wonder why

And what will he do when IS introduces an subscription too ?


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Pixart

« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2007, 12:53 »

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I am sure my average sale at dreamstime is above the istock price, even with the subscription sales. I think the lowest price I get with istock is 17 cents. That would be at least 25 cents with the subscription sites:)
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But you aren't selling a 10 mp photo for 17cents at Istock.

Steve-Oh, why not do the Bait & Switch? Wink

Lure them in with 5mp subscriptions, and when they need the extra larges make them pay for extra larges. You'll be capturing 2 customers in 1 then.

One thing about DT's subscription though... more subscription sales will elevate each photo to the next selling level more quickly - maybe we'll make more in the long run on DT once each photo is promoted?


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fotografer

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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2007, 13:42 »

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One thing about DT's subscription though... more subscription sales will elevate each photo to the next selling level more quickly - maybe we'll make more in the long run on DT once each photo is promoted?
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That is exactly what is happening with me at DT. I just got a couple of sub. sales on an image which pushed it into the next pricing tier and then sold an XL for 4$. I am now quite regularly getting sales of 2$ and over.
We won't be getting this advantage at StockXpert though so I think that we are going to end up losing money unless they offer us some thing to our advantage at the same time as introducing subsciption sales in the same way that DT did by putting up prices and introducing tier system.


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Read_My_Rights

« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2007, 20:30 »

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Until it is evident that buyers who are looking for a particular subject and have a subscription, buy multiple different pictures of the same general subject from the same photographer subscription does not work for the photographers.
Case in point: today - a Saturday no less - 14 DL all about North Carolina. These sales were made at the same time on SS where most of the time a buyer not only buys one picture of a subject but multiples from my portfolio. No other microstock agency that offers subscriptions has shown the tendency of multiple DL of the same subject at the same time!!!

I would not support subscription at StockXpert . . .

If the pricing structure of any microstock agency for their subscription DLs does not force the buyer into weekend DLs it is not a good deal for photographers. My reduction in DLs over the weekend is smallest on SS. Buyers buy regularily because of the daily limit.


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fotografer

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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2007, 03:10 »

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I hadn't thought about that but you are absolutley right. On DT I have never noticed multiple subscription sales of a similar subject whereas on SS that is the norm.


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steve-oh

« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2007, 09:40 »

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Ok. Because of your comments, the StockXpert team will discuss further this week.

I will keep you updated as to the outcome.

Thanks again for your swift and thorough feedback!
-Steve


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StockManiac

« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2007, 17:29 »

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It seems that (based on comments made from the StockXpert staff) there will be an opt-in/opt-out for subscription sales. You can read more about it here:

http://www.stockxpert.com/forum.phtml?f=showtopic&n=5891&p=2

If this is true, then I would like to thank StockXpert for listening to their contributors.

I would also like to thank everyone that gave their honest opinions on this thread. It just goes to show what can happen if we all work together.


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Karimala

« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2007, 01:08 »

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I'm a little late to the discussion, but still wanted to add my 2 cents.

As a full-time microstocker supporting my family on this income, my biggest concern is that StockXpert's subscription might take customers away from the two sites that pay me more: SS and 123RF...thereby causing a decrease in my overall income. If StockXpert would raise the commission from 25 cents to 30 or 36 cents, I would be much more supportive of the plan. I'm all for competition between the sites, and StockXpert is my #1 favorite site, but I just want to make sure my family and I are not hurt in the process. Those little nickels add up.


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diego_cervo

« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2007, 03:28 »

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I agree with you karimala. Even if I'm not so concerned about subscription, I still think 25cents commission is too low, unless StockXpert is planning to raise it depending on photographers sales or some other criteria like SS does.


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Eco

« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2007, 03:50 »

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Some constributers indicated that they will stop uploading when StockXpert introduce subscription sales. Maybe it is a planned move of StockXpert in order to get rid of the long pending queue. Grin

Some of my submissions are now pending evaluation for more than 10 days. Very disappointing of StockXpert that used to be the fastest in reviewing submissions. I surely hope this is not the beginning of the end for StockXpert.


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Read_My_Rights

« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2007, 08:35 »

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Opt-in/Opt-out will prevent anybody here from jumping ship. This is the feature we all wanted - and hopefully get. Otherwise there is no problem with the introduction of subscription if it increases the customer base for StockXpert.


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perkmeup

« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2007, 09:21 »

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Ya......I'm not to keen on the subscription sales myself.....but I must say that it hasn't effected my sales at DT very much...so we'll see. I would feel much better of having a tiered system on the subscriptions as mentioned before. say .25 for small, .40 for med, .60 for large. ect...ect.

I really don't like it when I have an XL or XXL photo downloaded and I only get .25 cents....it just doen't sit right.

If they offer a opt in opt out option that will be great. I will try it for a while and see.........before I opt out.... Undecided

Tom


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steve-oh

« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2007, 09:52 »

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Yes. Opt-In/Opt-Out is a definite, and we will give you a few days before launch to make up your minds.

We're still discussing payout.

-Steve


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Kngkyle

« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2007, 10:05 »

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Quote from: steve-oh on October 03, 2007, 09:52

Yes. Opt-In/Opt-Out is a definite, and we will give you a few days before launch to make up your minds.

We're still discussing payout.

-Steve

If we choose to opt-in at first, can we opt-out at a later time if we don't like how it's going? And have you decided how the commission is going to be yet? If its just .25c per download any file size that is a little well, crap.


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steve-oh

« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2007, 10:24 »

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It's opt-in/opt-out at anytime. We haven't decided on the commission yet.


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stokfoto

« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2007, 10:38 »

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thank you very much Steve,and Thank you StockXpert for making this optional and listening to the contributers.
I really appreciate that!


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madelaide

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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2007, 15:28 »

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Steve-oh,

Thanks for letting is know and most of all for listening to us contributors.

I think one change between opt-in/opt-out should be allowed. People who like subs sales may opt-in first and then be disappointed. Others like me, who doesn't like subs sales, might prefer to opt-out first and then see it isn't damaging earnings so much (as it was the case in DT).

BTW, I'm not against subs sales if in a price per size model as suggested here. I'm only against selling high res images for too little.

Regards,
Adelaide


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leaf

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« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2007, 16:18 »

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madelaide - i think steve-oh was saying that you could go back and forth between opting in and out as you liked.


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madelaide

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« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2007, 16:24 »

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Ooops! You're right Leaf! I must be a bit slow today.... Shocked

Regards,
Adelaide


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grp_photo

« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2007, 02:21 »

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A thousand thanks for listening to us Steve! I really appreciate this so StockXpert is back to my number one site


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