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Agency Based Discussion => Sites that no longer exist => StockXpert.com => Topic started by: njnightsky on March 11, 2010, 20:01
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Thinkstock earnings have been posted to the Stockxpert account today.
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thanks for letting us know. wow, 11 sales, total $2.75, 65 images.
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So they actually transferred some images?
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i was in group 1. ;)
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Sadly, nothing for me. Which either means they're doing the update in stages or nobody wanted the stuff I sent via iStock. Still waiting for the SX photos to move over, if they ever do.
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Hmm... 120 sales from an account that I had been trying to close. I'm not sure how I should feel about that.
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opted out since one month, still had 39 sales....
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Sadly, nothing for me. Which either means they're doing the update in stages or nobody wanted the stuff I sent via iStock. Still waiting for the SX photos to move over, if they ever do.
I know this is confusing and I may be wrong, but after reading it over and over, because people asked the same questions over and over on their forum... StockXpert photos sold on ThinkStock will be credited on your StockXpert account. You need the old StockXpert account to collect those.
IS photos sold on ThinkStock will appear on the IS account, not on StockXpert.
If you think about it, some IS people didn't have StockXpert accounts and won't ever.
Being a group 2 or 3 (who the heck knows) I have no StockXpert photos on ThinkStock, so no sales. About 115 from IS went to ThinkStock and I don't see any 25c subscription sales on my IS commission reports, but maybe they haven't been figured, or just don't exist?
IS sales don't show up on StockXpert accounts, they are different agencies, different accounts, under the same owner. Unrelated except for sharing a partner site.
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Hmm... 120 sales from an account that I had been trying to close. I'm not sure how I should feel about that.
$30 richer? 8)
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$30 richer? 8)
I guess I'm going to Sizzler then. ;D
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IS photos sold on ThinkStock will appear on the IS account, not on StockXpert.
You would appear to be correct. iS shows $5.25 for 21 partner program downloads. Oddly, they show it with my January earnings; if these are ThinkStock, I'd have thought these would be on the bar for February. Either way, I won't be putting any down payments on any new gear.
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IS photos sold on ThinkStock will appear on the IS account, not on StockXpert.
You would appear to be correct. iS shows $5.25 for 21 partner program downloads. Oddly, they show it with my January earnings; if these are ThinkStock, I'd have thought these would be on the bar for February. Either way, I won't be putting any down payments on any new gear.
But these would be your sales on Photos.com, not on ThinkStock. I don't think they've gotten around to finalize our Februray partner program sales on IS - neither Photos.com, nor ThinkStock...
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You would appear to be correct. iS shows $5.25 for 21 partner program downloads. Oddly, they show it with my January earnings;
Then probably those are your January earnings from the Partner Program - which includes photos.com and from February will also include Thinkstock.
On iStock, Partner Program downloads were not added for February yet. Apparently (I conclude this from this thread) they decided to process the StockXpert downloads first. I have read on iStock, Partner Program downloads for February will only be added next week.
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IS photos sold on ThinkStock will appear on the IS account, not on StockXpert.
You would appear to be correct. iS shows $5.25 for 21 partner program downloads. Oddly, they show it with my January earnings; if these are ThinkStock, I'd have thought these would be on the bar for February. Either way, I won't be putting any down payments on any new gear.
But these would be your sales on Photos.com, not on ThinkStock. I don't think they've gotten around to finalize our Februray partner program sales on IS - neither Photos.com, nor ThinkStock...
And I think you are correct. None show, which even for "Crapstock" would be fairly unusual to not have one download in a month, when I was getting 12 Jupiter, 5 Photos.com, 3 StockXpert (average) a month in 2009, on StockXpert. Then all of Feb. is zero?
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IS photos sold on ThinkStock will appear on the IS account, not on StockXpert.
You would appear to be correct. iS shows $5.25 for 21 partner program downloads. Oddly, they show it with my January earnings; if these are ThinkStock, I'd have thought these would be on the bar for February. Either way, I won't be putting any down payments on any new gear.
If I understand it correctly, IS haven't updated partner site sales for february yet. It's still due. I only have PS from January as well.
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11 sales through StockXpert even though I deleted my portfolio in January.
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I had (much) higher hopes for them than they delivered, and after doing a few extrapolations I deemed it not worth the time and effort, so I opted out. Too bad ...
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Hmm... 120 sales from an account that I had been trying to close. I'm not sure how I should feel about that.
You should feel worried... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
^^ Yep!
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
Double yep!!! Of course everyone is free to submit wherever they want but i cringe everytime i see someone opted in/submitting there... we're digging our own grave with submitting to this one.
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With that pain in the his ass self trouble they made less than 1/10 of my income from my origin StockXpert earnings???
Cm(o)an geeks you can do much more than CRE.
I dont understand why they disable uploading from StockXpert to they new sht Thing site.
I think that they have enough fat cheek for that.
But no, what thay do?!?
Make max mess thru they own sites and screw us and them.
Puke
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I got just a question, why was XP/IS in such a hurry?? and then we need to wait for two months (if they enter in early April)..!
Contributors from group 2 and 3, should be I guess a few no??.. It doesn't mean huge $$ to contributors but for "them" should be no??..
just don't understand why so long to transfer and remove the duplicates that are already in IS..
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I got just a question, why was XP/IS in such a hurry?? and then we need to wait for two months (if they enter in early April)..!
Contributors from group 2 and 3, should be I guess a few no??.. It doesn't mean huge $$ to contributors but for "them" should be no??..
just don't understand why so long to transfer and remove the duplicates that are already in IS..
My only guess is they had a contract with partner sites that ran out.
11 sales through StockXpert even though I deleted my portfolio in January.
Even funnier is people who didn't Opt. out, didn't delete files, haven't had files moved and haven't made any sales. :D
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Hmm... 120 sales from an account that I had been trying to close. I'm not sure how I should feel about that.
You should feel worried... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Mega Dittos VB!
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
Double yep!!! Of course everyone is free to submit wherever they want but i cringe everytime i see someone opted in/submitting there... we're digging our own grave with submitting to this one.
Let me quote another site "Neither Time or istockphoto.com can be blamed for this situation; photographers who go down the micro stock path do so with no regard for the value of photography and are responsible for driving prices down."
Paraphrased to fit your view, "photographers who go down the subscription micro stock path do so with no regard for the value of photography and are responsible for driving prices down." ???
http://www.blackshadow.com.au/2009/07/how-microstock-is-ruining-the-business-of-photography/ (http://www.blackshadow.com.au/2009/07/how-microstock-is-ruining-the-business-of-photography/)
You can sell photos for peanuts or a dollar, but if someone undercuts your prices they are digging their own grave. Selling micro for peanuts compared to traditional stock is justified, but anybody undercutting you is out of line. :P
Writing the blog above doesn't change anything. Writing dittos here criticising people who sell subs, doesn't change anything. It does prove that some people are hypocrites. If you steal sales from a traditional stock agency its just business the new market and change. If someone undersells subs they are stupid.
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
Amen to that
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Hmm... 120 sales from an account that I had been trying to close. I'm not sure how I should feel about that.
You should feel worried... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Absolutely!!!
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I kept my account on StockXpert and I had sales through Thinkstock.
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
Double yep!!! Of course everyone is free to submit wherever they want but i cringe everytime i see someone opted in/submitting there... we're digging our own grave with submitting to this one.
Let me quote another site "Neither Time or istockphoto.com can be blamed for this situation; photographers who go down the micro stock path do so with no regard for the value of photography and are responsible for driving prices down."
Paraphrased to fit your view, "photographers who go down the subscription micro stock path do so with no regard for the value of photography and are responsible for driving prices down." ???
[url]http://www.blackshadow.com.au/2009/07/how-microstock-is-ruining-the-business-of-photography/[/url] ([url]http://www.blackshadow.com.au/2009/07/how-microstock-is-ruining-the-business-of-photography/[/url])
You can sell photos for peanuts or a dollar, but if someone undercuts your prices they are digging their own grave. Selling micro for peanuts compared to traditional stock is justified, but anybody undercutting you is out of line. :P
Writing the blog above doesn't change anything. Writing dittos here criticising people who sell subs, doesn't change anything. It does prove that some people are hypocrites. If you steal sales from a traditional stock agency its just business the new market and change. If someone undersells subs they are stupid.
The funny thing is photography is my hobby... im an exclusive vector contributor on istock with minimal photos on my portfolio. I've been making a substantial income from istock recently due to more involvement on producing for istock. my average return per download is over $5 and i get lots in a day so i am nervous when i see some really good vectors showing up on thinkstock. I now have a vested interest in the stock photo market as a whole and wonder where its headed. it is a very uncertain time.
Microstock isn't ruining the business of photography... it's technology with its double edged sword. Technology has allowed cameras cheap enough for the masses to produce quality pictures. The internet and its ability to draw a large mass of buyers to buy an image for a buck trampled on the closed doors/mentality of the established agencies. IMO, capitalism at its core is unsustainable and it eats away at itself until there's nothing left.
IMO with thinkstock, Getty is really going about it the wrong way with their outdated 20% mentallity that they cling to. It might have worked with photographers getting $400 on a $2000 overpriced picture but we're talking cents here. That site really should be for hobbyists and it hurts to see great stuff on that site. For every awesome picture on that site, it robs a sale from a decent payout site imo. I don't get the logic of getting 20 cents for an illustration that took you 8 plus hours to do.
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Regarding the phases of transferring photos to thinkstock...Here's what was posted on the StockXpert forum by an StockXpert admin on Mar. 12.
They're going to be transferring another million and half images sometime in the next week or two (I will check back to see if I can get a firmer date for that.) Then there's going to be one last transfer of the remaining images probably another month after that. So they are getting there gradually, but yeah, it's taking a lot of time.
There are still people who opted out from day 1 from partner programs who still have their images on thinkstock. Fortunately mine were removed already. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else or if I have been singled out for making a big stink, but I deleted my images on StockXpert on Feb. 2, asked that my account be closed. The images were gone, the account was closed. I received my final payout. Now my images are showing again and my account is open again. The images have been explained away as being cached images (so dump the cache???) but I have not gotten an explanation as to why I still have an account there.
I think it's pretty clear this whole thing has been a fiasco and very ill-planned.
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I think it's pretty clear this whole thing has been a fiasco and very ill-planned.
It seems that way to me too. I think that is what has turned me off more than the 25 cents.
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I think it's pretty clear this whole thing has been a fiasco and very ill-planned.
It seems that way to me too. I think that is what has turned me off more than the 25 cents.
Not to defend the presence of photos that shouldn't even be there - but at least they managed to post the earnings (meagre as they may be) that were made since February, 11th - that is more than can be said about IS, who still didn't say anything about the arrival of "Partner Program Earnings" (apart from "probably this week").
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I kept my account on StockXpert and I had sales through Thinkstock.
Are you still opted in to subs Ivan?
I still have my account and images on StockXpert (too lazy to delete 5k manually) but because I am opted out of subs none of my images are on TS.
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I kept my account on StockXpert and I had sales through Thinkstock.
Are you still opted in to subs Ivan?
I still have my account and images on StockXpert (too lazy to delete 5k manually) but because I am opted out of subs none of my images are on TS.
Lisa,
If I remember well, I opted out when they announced closing of StockXpert, but I opted in at IS. But now, in my profile at StockXpert I see I'm opted in for Thinkstock, and I'm opted in for Partner sites. I see only my vectors on Thinkstock, and they are transfered from StockXpert. All photos I have on Thinkstock are transfered from IS, there are no my photos from StockXpert. People who had the same images at IS and StockXpert will be transfered at the last phase...which I think is not scheduled yet.
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I thought I did everything necessary to opt out of the Thinkstock program. However, $5.25 had been posted to my earnings and when I went to check, I was opten in at StockXpert. So I opted out of there as well.
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well i'm opted in at both IS and StockXpert and still see zero of mine on thinkstock. 8)=tom
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Not to defend the presence of photos that shouldn't even be there - but at least they managed to post the earnings (meagre as they may be) that were made since February, 11th - that is more than can be said about IS, who still didn't say anything about the arrival of "Partner Program Earnings" (apart from "probably this week").
Not to defend the partnership program, but posting earnings in the middle of the following month has happened since it started and has repeatedly been what Rob (sylvanworks) has said on the forums.
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Not to defend the presence of photos that shouldn't even be there - but at least they managed to post the earnings (meagre as they may be) that were made since February, 11th - that is more than can be said about IS, who still didn't say anything about the arrival of "Partner Program Earnings" (apart from "probably this week").
Not to defend the partnership program, but posting earnings in the middle of the following month has happened since it started and has repeatedly been what Rob (sylvanworks) has said on the forums.
That it is true, but I don't see how this makes it any better? We had daily stats updates on StockXpert from our Photos.com sales, I fail to see why it is impossible to have that on IS? Or at least have an "end-of-the-month"-report, that is not two weeks late - but obviously Shank and I are the only two bothered by this :)
The reason why I'm unhappy with the current reporting is twofold: (a) it makes tracking of sales on a per image basis impossible (as does the whole way PP-sales are reported at IS now) and (b) there were several occasions when Photos.com "forgot" to report sales to StockXpert - this was usually discovered fast, because volume seller would cry our after the second day without sales and eventually everybody would get their money. With a reporting system that is - at the worst - six weeks late, there is no way to find glitches like that...
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I think IS should really make a better system for us to see PP sales in real time, and to easily see which images are sold. Also, I think if Yaymicro could manage to pay me the same moment I click "payment" button, that other agencies should do the same. Why we have to wait more than 2 weeks sometimes to get our many?
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I think IS should really make a better system for us to see PP sales in real time, and to easily see which images are sold. Also, I think if Yaymicro could manage to pay me the same moment I click "payment" button, that other agencies should do the same. Why we have to wait more than 2 weeks sometimes to get our many?
Because it means two weeks more of money in the bank generating interests.
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^^^ Oh, sure, I know that.
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I think IS should really make a better system for us to see PP sales in real time, and to easily see which images are sold. ...
I don't disagree that in an ideal world the sales reporting system should be real time, but there are so many things on the IS to-do list that would come way, waaay higher than this that I'd hate to see them spend any time on it in the foreseeable future.
Clearly I am influenced by the fact that I've been opted out of this program from the beginning (my view is that it's Getty trying to pull our earnings down to a flat 20% (max) for everyone. Whether you're independent and you end up hosing SS by participating in the partner program or you're exclusive to IS and you hose your own higher commissions over time, the only winner in this will be Getty). So if Getty wants to spend their time and energy building contributor reporting tools (which I strongly doubt) let them knock themselves out.
But I wouldn't want any more IS developer time spent on enhancements to partner program reporting.
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It will be curious to see if there ends up being any "group 2" or "group 3" transfer activity to ThinkStock here in April as promised ...
-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com (http://markwpayne.wordpress.com)
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March earnings have were posted today
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How come I keep getting money from Thinkstock when I opted out at both StockXpert and iStock? This is really frustrating, I don't want to have my images available there
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How come I keep getting money from Thinkstock when I opted out at both StockXpert and iStock? This is really frustrating, I don't want to have my images available there
I understand totally how you feel. I opted out also. I sent emails every day and posted in the IS forum about the problem, over and over. After a lot of "should be next week" answers and some grief from people in the IS forum who had been on IS way less time than I had, my images were totally gone from Thinkstock. I had already been opted out both on StockXpert and IS for a couple of months and my images still went to TS. I was thoroughly frustrated and not very nice about it.
People can make excuses about the snowstorm and how it costs lots of money to set up a server correctly (see another thread here about istock server problems) but in my opinion they were never set up to handle any of this. What good was having the opt out button to check on IS, when images got opted in anyway? It's almost like the checkbox was put there to shut us up when we complained because there wasn't an opt out, but the button was never really connected to anything on the back end.
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March earnings have were posted today
thanks for the heads-up
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March earnings have were posted today
thanks for the heads-up
ditto ;D
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March earnings have were posted today
thanks for the heads-up
ditto ;D
Gosh, they can't be very stunning if you weren't even noticing!
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even though the hemera collection only reflects about 1/3 of my original StockXpert photos, i had more dl (same amt of earnings due to the subs). it was also an increase on last month's performance. i'm surprised it's doing better under the thinkstock brand than the old StockXpert brand, probably due to getty heavily promoting it.
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How come I keep getting money from Thinkstock when I opted out at both StockXpert and iStock? This is really frustrating, I don't want to have my images available there
I understand totally how you feel. I opted out also. I sent emails every day and posted in the IS forum about the problem, over and over. After a lot of "should be next week" answers and some grief from people in the IS forum who had been on IS way less time than I had, my images were totally gone from Thinkstock. I had already been opted out both on StockXpert and IS for a couple of months and my images still went to TS. I was thoroughly frustrated and not very nice about it.
People can make excuses about the snowstorm and how it costs lots of money to set up a server correctly (see another thread here about istock server problems) but in my opinion they were never set up to handle any of this. What good was having the opt out button to check on IS, when images got opted in anyway? It's almost like the checkbox was put there to shut us up when we complained because there wasn't an opt out, but the button was never really connected to anything on the back end.
Yeah that's really annoying. I already contacted iStock once and got the "in a few weeks" reply. Might have to contact them again.
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Just wanted to let you know that StockXpert posted Thinkstock earnings for April today...
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I'm still waiting till they transfer my account to the Hemera Thinkstock collection. I received a message that the proces is still running till early summer:(:(
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Just wanted to let you know that StockXpert posted Thinkstock earnings for April today...
So, how are things looking for you Thinkstock contributors? Just curious.
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Just wanted to let you know that StockXpert posted Thinkstock earnings for April today...
So, how are things looking for you Thinkstock contributors? Just curious.
When I add up my Thinkstock sales via StockXpert (Hemera) and via IS, I have a lot more subscription sales than before (when StockXpert was still StockXpert) - "a lot more" meaning by a factor of 2 - 3. What is missing, of course, are the PPD sales from StockXpert. I also was not affected by the drastic decline of TS sales that is discussed at the IS forums...
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Just wanted to let you know that StockXpert posted Thinkstock earnings for April today...
So, how are things looking for you Thinkstock contributors? Just curious.
The amount is somewhat similar to the subscription total sales in StockXpert in Jupiter times. But, since the PPD are missing, I'm only earning a third of what I've used to earn.
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The amount is somewhat similar to the subscription total sales in StockXpert in Jupiter times. But, since the PPD are missing, I'm only earning a third of what I've used to earn.
Thanks for the info. Another reason for the lower earnings is most likely the 20% less TS pays for sub sales.
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So, how are things looking for you Thinkstock contributors? Just curious.
Since you asked, my dear cclapper.... :) THEY DON'T EXIST!! I WAS opted in on StockXpert and IS from the start and enjoyed fair sales at StockXpert thru StockXpert, photo & JIU.... regular checks blah blah blah.... and as of today, my stuff is STILL not migrated to TS. Blows my mind that all my friends here who DIDN'T opt in for subs.... didn't WANT TO BE opted in for subs... in fact, OPTED OUT for subs... seem to be there on TS... while all of us that were opted in from the start at both IS and StockXpert... ( kind of like, 'hey, we cooperated with you and sub'ed in, while others staunchly refused, we said okay...' like good little loyal robots ) yet we still sit idle WITH NO MONEY COMING IN. HONESTLY, I'M TICKED!!
Maybe I'm over reacting.... NOT! Fact is, seems impossible to get a response from anyone as to when we will get there... some one above said they were told... 'sometime into the summer'.
Frankly, ya gotta wonder. Those that don't want to be there, are... making money.. and those of us that want to be there, aren't... and not making a dime. WTH? Pretzel logic at it's finest.
Perhaps my stuff just sux that bad? And they don't want it? Not likely, as I'm still getting regular checks from IS. 8)=tom
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I'm experiencing the same thing. This is all very confusing. Not opted in pictures through SX at TS. But, I havn't heard of people who opted out making money at TS through Hemera, or whatever, collection. Where did you hear this?
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I'm experiencing the same thing. This is all very confusing. Not opted in pictures through SX at TS. But, I havn't heard of people who opted out making money at TS through Hemera, or whatever, collection. Where did you hear this?
I never opted in and my pictures AREN'T there. Thank God. I can live without the paltry .25, thanks.
BTW, Tom. I wouldn't be too discouraged. If you read the IS thread, the people who are opted in and have images selling there aren't making money either. Nobody except Getty (and their wholly owned collection) are making any significant money on TS.
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BTW, Tom. I wouldn't be too discouraged. If you read the IS thread, the people who are opted in and have images selling there aren't making money either. Nobody except Getty (and their wholly owned collection) are making any significant money on TS.
I, respectfully, beg to differ - I am making significant money. A least compared to what I am making on my regular IS sales. I'm not yet convinced that the March results on IS are correct for everyone, I can't imagine people going from 700 to 70 sales on TS in a single month - Rob promised to look into it, and the final word is still out...
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I, respectfully, beg to differ - I am making significant money. A least compared to what I am making on my regular IS sales.
Now why are you false advertising? Even if you were making significant money, you wouldnt want to advertise it here and infect your competition with desperate thoughts ;) talk about advertisement tho , i see thinkstock banners everywhere.
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BTW, Tom. I wouldn't be too discouraged. If you read the IS thread, the people who are opted in and have images selling there aren't making money either. Nobody except Getty (and their wholly owned collection) are making any significant money on TS.
I, respectfully, beg to differ - I am making significant money. A least compared to what I am making on my regular IS sales. I'm not yet convinced that the March results on IS are correct for everyone, I can't imagine people going from 700 to 70 sales on TS in a single month - Rob promised to look into it, and the final word is still out...
They added many more Getty family collections to TS during last month. So, now, Istock is just a small part of TS. It does make sense for sales to go down with the same number of pictures from Istock portfolio. They havn't added any of my pictures last month and my sales halved.
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Hi Dook,
I see things differently.
You aren't making significant money on TS. In fact, you aren't making any money at all. Not a single cent.
Getty is not advertising ThinkStock to some new, 'untapped market', - the Irish dairy farmers on Wicklow mountains.
They're advertising TS to your existing, already thinly stretched, list of customers. Every single sale on TS is a lost sale on your other, better paying sites.
But this has been discussed ad nauseam already, and I'm wasting my time.
It's the power of money, nothing compares to it.
By the way, IStock contributors seem to experience a decline in sales. Perhaps now is the time to stop the so called 'test' and take down TS adds from IStock's own site?
Collections on ThinkStock
A couple of days ago I read a thread on Istock. Contributors performed a few searches on ThinkStock. The results are clear. IStock is not a 'small' part of TS, lost among other, larger collections, but as much as half of it.
Half of the images on TS come from IStock. You're well represented there, you should be selling.
And I don't think it's a bug either. I don't think Rob can help you.
ThinkStock is a subscription site.
Have you ever bought a subscription?
You need fresh content on a daily basis. The more the merrier.
100.000 new, fresh images coming in every week at Shutterstock.
How many on TS?
20.000 at best? How many of those are fresh, new images?
This is where the problem is. Content is king and you haven't got it at ThinkStock. The way things are set up right now you never will.
But it's a good thing. Keep your fingers crossed for the status quo.
ThinkStock is a badly implemented site and it deserves to fail.
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I, respectfully, beg to differ - I am making significant money. A least compared to what I am making on my regular IS sales.
I am glad you are happy with what you are making. However there may be a pretty wide latitude in what would be considered "significant" money I guess. If your income from TS is comparing favorably to your IS income we may have different ideas about what significant money is.
I have no personal experience of TS, so am drawing my conclusions from the 15+ page thread on IS. Your personal experience is very valid for you, but it seems to be in the minority, at least of the people posting.
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I, respectfully, beg to differ - I am making significant money. A least compared to what I am making on my regular IS sales.
I am glad you are happy with what you are making. However there may be a pretty wide latitude in what would be considered "significant" money I guess. If your income from TS is comparing favorably to your IS income we may have different ideas about what significant money is.
I have no personal experience of TS, so am drawing my conclusions from the 15+ page thread on IS. Your personal experience is very valid for you, but it seems to be in the minority, at least of the people posting.
The op puts it in context, your comment just comes across as pompous
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Copied the following from StockXpert site. It was posted today, May 12.
Hi everyone. I think I'll start a new thread for this just so that the news doesn't get lost.
I've just heard the latest about the migration process of StockXpert content to Thinkstock.
They are working right now on the final batch of approximately 1.2 million files. These are the last remaining StockXpert files that are opted-in for Thinkstock which haven't yet been moved over there.
Right now they are adding a few thousand every day. The entire process should be completed in about 6 weeks.
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The op puts it in context, your comment just comes across as pompous
Oh well. You are entitled to your opinion. :-\
For clarity's sake, lets say $100 (minimum payout level) per month would be "significant". I have followed the threads closely and don't see many claiming to make anywhere near that on TS.
If anyone is making that much or more at Thinkstock on a regular basis then I hope they will post here and clear up my misconception that TS is only paying pocket change.
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Copied the following from StockXpert site. It was posted today, May 12.
Hi everyone. I think I'll start a new thread for this just so that the news doesn't get lost.
I've just heard the latest about the migration process of StockXpert content to Thinkstock.
They are working right now on the final batch of approximately 1.2 million files. These are the last remaining StockXpert files that are opted-in for Thinkstock which haven't yet been moved over there.
Right now they are adding a few thousand every day. The entire process should be completed in about 6 weeks.
So the announcements that said soon, which started in Feb. can be translated as six months? (maybe?) ::)
Yes, I can see the angry mob now running into the streets shouting YEAH BABY!
(I wasted hours making this, I needed an excuse to use it again...)
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4769/angrymobcomposite25.jpg)
Until everything gets moved or not moved and the IS images get into the partner program or not, which is all up in the air, I will suspend my opinion of whether this is folly, pocket change or income. My expectations are pocket change.
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For clarity's sake, lets say $100 (minimum payout level) per month would be "significant". I have followed the threads closely and don't see many claiming to make anywhere near that on TS.
If anyone is making that much or more at Thinkstock on a regular basis then I hope they will post here and clear up my misconception that TS is only paying pocket change.
I won't post absolute numbers here, but in February ThinkStock sales made 20% percent of my total IS income, in March it was 35% - with a portfolio of approx. 500 of what must be the worst stockphotos ever ;D So if someone with a "good portfolio" would opt their photos in, I'm sure there is significant money to be made - the question remains, of course, about the long term effect on sales on IS and - for non-exclusives - on all other sites...
FYI: April earnings from ThinkStock have started to trickle into my IS account today...
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May earnings have been posted today
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For clarity's sake, lets say $100 (minimum payout level) per month would be "significant". I have followed the threads closely and don't see many claiming to make anywhere near that on TS.
If anyone is making that much or more at Thinkstock on a regular basis then I hope they will post here and clear up my misconception that TS is only paying pocket change.
I would say that amount is achievable. I had 3 payouts there averaging about $40. I can't say if that was per month because the payout schedule was kind of convoluted and one of them was a final payout. It was a new site too, so I would think it would build buyers as it goes along (especially with all the advertising).
I ended up closing my account because the site seemed to have a lot of early hiccups and it was attached to a dead StockXpert account. That said, I'm definitely not ruling out signing back up.
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Thanks for keeping this thread updated. I still am opposed to TS because I don't want them cannibalizing the higher paying sites, but it is helpful to know what the trends are there.
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Lisa, here is some more information. They moved half of my StockXpert portfolio to Hemera TS collection in last few weeks. Before that nothing. Today my balance at StockXpert account was higher for few dollars. I guess it is for last month, but I had only few days of May there. So, I let you know what happens next month.
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May earnings have been posted today
+1
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ahahah I am so nice next to Obama!
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Just a quick question - Can you supply TS directly, is it is just routed through old SPX portfolio and IS pics?
I'm guessing you can't, but it's quite annnoying as StockXpert accepted all my pics, but IS has it's own policies, so new material that would sell on TS can't get past IS quality control.
Any advice, or just accept that's the way it is?
Oldhand
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Any advice, or just accept that's the way it is?
your guess is correct. but i do believe there's a third way. it's called stockfresh. :)
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Many thanks AP, I'll check that out as it's a new one to me.
Oldhand
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Any advice, or just accept that's the way it is?
Oldhand
My advice would be to not support TS at all. You are undermining SS, FT and DT, who all pay considerably more to contributors for sub sales, and your own future earnings (and those of others too) in the process. As a self-declared 'old hand' I'm surprised you can't see this.
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Any advice, or just accept that's the way it is?
Oldhand
My advice would be to not support TS at all. You are undermining SS, FT and DT, who all pay considerably more to contributors for sub sales, and your own future earnings (and those of others too) in the process. As a self-declared 'old hand' I'm surprised you can't see this.
+1
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For clarity's sake, lets say $100 (minimum payout level) per month would be "significant". I have followed the threads closely and don't see many claiming to make anywhere near that on TS. If anyone is making that much or more at Thinkstock on a regular basis then I hope they will post here and clear up my misconception that TS is only paying pocket change.
I won't post absolute numbers here, but in February ThinkStock sales made 20% percent of my total IS income, in March it was 35% - with a portfolio of approx. 500 of what must be the worst stockphotos ever ;D So if someone with a "good portfolio" would opt their photos in, I'm sure there is significant money to be made - the question remains, of course, about the long term effect on sales on IS and - for non-exclusives - on all other sites...
FYI: April earnings from ThinkStock have started to trickle into my IS account today...
Just curious. How are your IS downloads trending now that you have stuff also on TS?
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Any advice, or just accept that's the way it is?
Oldhand
My advice would be to not support TS at all. You are undermining SS, FT and DT, who all pay considerably more to contributors for sub sales, and your own future earnings (and those of others too) in the process. As a self-declared 'old hand' I'm surprised you can't see this.
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Hello, before anyone chips in with +3!
Point taken, undermining, undercutting and bad business.
I should have clarified things a bit. I used StockXpert for illustrations, which paid reasonably. It's not my main forte however, and they weren't sold elsewhere en masse. They were just one outlet for pics of a certain nature.
StockXpert has migrated over a couple of thousand to TS, and fair play. In the great scheme of things it's a bad move for microstock in general, but for me it's an outlet for pics I didn't send elsewhere as it would cause havoc with my rejection rates and be a waste of time.
Alamy asked me onboard at the start with scanned slides of 18mb. I passed as they were competing in the same market. Now they are dominant, and me a humble mortal.
All extra money is good, especially for minimal effort.
Postitive plus points taken however
Oldhand - self declared ageing, but not expert
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^^^ I understand what you're saying but nonetheless it is in all our longer-term interests for TS to fail completely. Every single image you contribute to TS makes it more likely that they will become established, succeed and eventually gain customers from other better-paying agencies.
TS do not do their own reviewing, make payments or otherwise facilitate contributors which means their profitablity (from your images) should be significantly higher. Don't help them to gain a foothold.
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Hey, I logged in StockXpert and open "my images", all my uploaded images are there... ??? ??? ???
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Hey, I logged in StockXpert and open "my images", all my uploaded images are there... ??? ??? ???
Did you remove your images and ask support to close your account? If not, then they would still be there. Are you opted in for partner programs on IS? Then your images are on Thinkstock and are facilitated through StockXpert.
I checked my account on StockXpert and I can't even log in (likely I'm blacklisted). But then again I removed my photos and asked the account be closed, so it is expected. And no opt-in to partner programs on IS.
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I checked my account on StockXpert and I can't even log in (likely I'm blacklisted). But then again I removed my photos and asked the account be closed, so it is expected. And no opt-in to partner programs on IS.
Yeah, they don't mess around. Once, you ask to close your account they lock the door and boot you out. On the plus side, they seem very on top of sending any leftover earnings along to your Paypal account from final sales. I think that is a lot more stand up than trying to weasel out the last few nickels and dimes from you on the way out. It's a shame StockXpert is gone. They seemed to have done a lot of things right.
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I checked my account on StockXpert and I can't even log in (likely I'm blacklisted). But then again I removed my photos and asked the account be closed, so it is expected. And no opt-in to partner programs on IS.
Yeah, they don't mess around. Once, you ask to close your account they lock the door and boot you out. On the plus side, they seem very on top of sending any leftover earnings along to your Paypal account from final sales. I think that is a lot more stand up than trying to weasel out the last few nickels and dimes from you on the way out. It's a shame StockXpert is gone. They seemed to have done a lot of things right.
Leftover earnings...yes, you are right, IS did OK by me on that. Some of my images mistakenly went to Thinkstock. They were up for awhile before finally coming down. During that time I guess I sold one or two and IS reported the earnings to me. I guess that's where it came from anyway.
StockXpert gone...they're back! check here http://www.stockfresh.com (http://www.stockfresh.com)
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StockXpert gone...they're back! check here [url]http://www.stockfresh.com[/url] ([url]http://www.stockfresh.com[/url])
You say potato. I say avocado. ;D
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StockXpert gone...they're back! check here [url]http://www.stockfresh.com[/url] ([url]http://www.stockfresh.com[/url])
You say potato. I say avocado. ;D
:D
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well...my images are finally starting to show up.. but only from StockXpert....
however.... if the keyword spamming isn't addressed soon.... I'm outta there!! Some to the worst I've ever seen!!! :)=tom
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Hi all, i have some questions about thinkstock, i had some simple vectors illustrations that with StockXpert so it is with thinkstock now and earning me like $14 a month.. so it means that portfolio will remain there with StockXpert and sell through thinkstock as long as we are around? I can withdrawn from StockXpert and the portfolio will still earn and i am still able to withdrawn if it meet the cash out amount?
If we clicked partner program for image in istock, those images will be sold in thinkstock as 25c too? it is quite strange for an agency to sell same images in istock price and thinkstock price.. or i miss out something?
anyway, i think thinkstock is like those shop that sell everything made in china with same price..they got their own market, but will never get quality images, but it still can happen through istock program, not everyone understand what partner program is.
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If we clicked partner program for image in istock, those images will be sold in thinkstock as 25c too? it is quite strange for an agency to sell same images in istock price and thinkstock price.. or i miss out something?
Yes. However strange, that's the way it is. Buyers can have the same pictures with IS credits, IS subscription or TS subscription, at different prices.
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My IS pictures are not being transfer to TS anymore. Support said they have some technical problems at the moment, but it's been more than a month now. Is it possible that IS doesn't want to send their pictures to TS anymore?
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I can't really understand what kind of strategy istock want to sell same thing in 2 prices.
Personally i had stopped to click the partner program option, i guess contributor may do so if there is some simple vector illustrations or images that you can sell at cheap price.
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Is it possible that IS doesn't want to send their pictures to TS anymore?
I think that is a bit too much to hope for. I doubt this is an example of their coming to their senses.
There is a lot more precedent for assuming it is just a technical glitch.
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Yes, I know, I just wished it was true. :(
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I can't really understand what kind of strategy istock want to sell same thing in 2 prices.
That's exactly what most of us - as contributors - are doing by selling pictures at a number of sites, at different prices - and buyers don't seem to care too much
I suppose IS is doing the same: increasing market share
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I can't really understand what kind of strategy istock want to sell same thing in 2 prices.
That's exactly what most of us - as contributors - are doing by selling pictures at a number of sites, at different prices - and buyers don't seem to care too much
I suppose IS is doing the same: increasing market share
Except that it is not IS. It is Getty trying to break into the subscription business of the sites like SS. And doing so without worrying much about IS. The way they are trying to do this should be of great worry to those relying on this business.
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I can't really understand what kind of strategy istock want to sell same thing in 2 prices.
That's exactly what most of us - as contributors - are doing by selling pictures at a number of sites, at different prices - and buyers don't seem to care too much
I suppose IS is doing the same: increasing market share
Except that it is not IS. It is Getty trying to break into the subscription business of the sites like SS. And doing so without worrying much about IS. The way they are trying to do this should be of great worry to those relying on this business.
Right - I meant Getty as a group.
And as a non-exclusive with portfolio at many subscription sites, I am afraid I can't say anything against subs in general. Except of course that I would prefer a tiered price structure starting from $.25 and going up (with lifetime achievements as in SS, and/or with picture size) instead of starting and ending at $.25
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I haven't noticed anyone posting that TS earnings have been posted. It seems to take longer every month!
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I haven't noticed anyone posting that TS earnings have been posted. It seems to take longer every month!
Are you talking about July Earnings? I'm pretty sure June was posted already?
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I haven't noticed anyone posting that TS earnings have been posted. It seems to take longer every month!
Are you talking about July Earnings? I'm pretty sure June was posted already?
TS/StockXpert (Hemera) June earnings have been posted.
TS/IS June earnings not yet.
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I can't really understand what kind of strategy istock want to sell same thing in 2 prices.
That's exactly what most of us - as contributors - are doing by selling pictures at a number of sites, at different prices - and buyers don't seem to care too much
I suppose IS is doing the same: increasing market share
Except that it is not IS. It is Getty trying to break into the subscription business of the sites like SS. And doing so without worrying much about IS. The way they are trying to do this should be of great worry to those relying on this business.
For the moment, judging for what is read at the forums about sales at SS and for the notorius fall in downloads at my own por at IS, I think that what they are getting is to transfer istock custumers to TS without even making a small dent in SS sales.
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it's finally started!
for what it's worth, the ts buyers are just lapping up my formerly zero download files. however, lately, the is credit buyers are reviving a lot of these old files too, forcing me to remove them from my ts arsenal.
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TS/StockXpert (Hemera) June earnings have been posted.
TS/IS June earnings not yet.
Update: June earnings posted tonight.
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My one months earning on Thinkstock is about the half of what I earn on SS... on a single day. This is NOT promising. I don't mind if they sell images for cents while they sell them in volumes - like SS does.
Ok, I know they just have started. I give them another 6 months to significantly raise the monthly income. I they will not I'll remove my portfolio.
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Any body sales at Thinkstockphotos in July?
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No report on StockXpert yet. Last month it was around 20th, so I don't expect anything sooner this month.
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earnings are posted again
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STILL I haven't enabled Thinkstock at StockXpert. STILL I keep getting those $0.25 sales, they're selling my images without my approval. I now have enough of these $0.25 sales for a payout.... sigh
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Does anyone know if they will stop selling my images if I close my account after I get my payment ? Or are they going to keep selling them but without having a place to post my commissions?
This iStock/StockXpert thing still confuses me.
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Interesting. I have 969 files on thinkstock, last 3 earnings have been $33, $64 and $104. I chose to opt in through stockxpert as I really do think they will grow and become a big player like it or not. I'm also hoping they will bring in a pay structure similar to shutterstock. Mmmmmm! But regardless here in the uk some big players seem to have signed up. I'm still on the fence royalty wise seeing what happens over the next year.
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Does anyone know if they will stop selling my images if I close my account after I get my payment ? Or are they going to keep selling them but without having a place to post my commissions?
This iStock/StockXpert thing still confuses me.
Delete all your images then ask them to close your account. I did that and have nothing on thinkstock.
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Interesting. I have 969 files on thinkstock, last 3 earnings have been $33, $64 and $104. I chose to opt in through stockxpert as I really do think they will grow and become a big player like it or not. I'm also hoping they will bring in a pay structure similar to shutterstock. Mmmmmm! But regardless here in the uk some big players seem to have signed up. I'm still on the fence royalty wise seeing what happens over the next year.
Why on earth would they bring in a pay structure similar to shutterstock when they can get away with paying $0.25? I think it is far more likely that shutterstock will see this and decide to pay a flat rate $0.25, as will all the other sites that pay us more for subs. I wouldn't mind so much if they charged the buyers less and had more sales volume but they don't, they just pay their contributors much less commission than shutterstock and several other sites despite having lower costs with no reviews.
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earnings are posted again
Thanks for the update I was able to get a payout and already recvd the money.
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Does anyone know if they will stop selling my images if I close my account after I get my payment ? Or are they going to keep selling them but without having a place to post my commissions?
This iStock/StockXpert thing still confuses me.
Delete all your images then ask them to close your account. I did that and have nothing on thinkstock.
Hey Sharpshot,
Delete the images where?
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Pathetic results again :-( StockXpert was much better.
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Does anyone know if they will stop selling my images if I close my account after I get my payment ? Or are they going to keep selling them but without having a place to post my commissions?
This iStock/StockXpert thing still confuses me.
Delete all your images then ask them to close your account. I did that and have nothing on thinkstock.
Hey Sharpshot,
Delete the images where?
Delete them on the StockXpert site, if you can still log in. If they are only on istock, you can opt out.
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Does anyone know if they will stop selling my images if I close my account after I get my payment ? Or are they going to keep selling them but without having a place to post my commissions?
This iStock/StockXpert thing still confuses me.
Delete all your images then ask them to close your account. I did that and have nothing on thinkstock.
Hey Sharpshot,
Delete the images where?
Delete them on the StockXpert site, if you can still log in. If they are only on istock, you can opt out.
If you don't want your images on Thinkstock, close your StockXpert account. As far as opting out at IS...I WAS opted out, but there were reports today on another thread that the opt out button doesn't stay checked. I have been opted out for a long time but a. my images STILL went to Thinkstock AFTER I deleted my images on StockXpert and closed my account when the whole sale of StockXpert first went through and b. my opt out button was unchecked when I just went and checked a few minutes.
I am going to send an email to support at IS right now and complain about that opt out button being unchecked.
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Thinkstock earnings for August(!) have been posted at StockXpert last night.
So apparently it is possible to crunch the numbers and transfer them to another database in less than four weeks - let's see how long it's going to take IS until they show sales from August... :D
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Thanks for the info! I usually open StockXpert by the end of the month.
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Is the forum gone on the StockXpert-site? Or did they put some place where I can't find it? ???
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Is the forum gone on the StockXpert-site? Or did they put some place where I can't find it? ???
noticed the same days ago.. is gone!
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Propably so that we can't ask about payout anymore ;D :P
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Is the forum gone on the StockXpert-site? Or did they put some place where I can't find it? ???
gone, gone gone . . . . I guess we only need faith . . . . . omg, what a way to run a business. ???
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... For all the contributors in the imaging industry, we need this site to FAIL MISERABLY. It is GETTY trying to get away with their ridiculous 20% payouts. The more you make on this site, the more you eventually lose because you made it the status quo. We need to stop this "Yes sir, may i have another" mentality.
Ditto!
Wish every stock photographer could understand it. :(
^^ Yep!
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I was stupid and one week before the announcement I put around 300 images on thinkstock through the PP because I felt like IS and myself were going forward together, that was stupid and I immediately removed all of my images from Thinkstock and PP. I think everyone needs to do the same it's a small protest individually but making this site fail will go a long way I hope.
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I emailed StockXpert support about Forum and Payouts.
Got this response:
Dear Warren,
Thank you very much for your email.
We have not received the sales report for September yet. As soon as we have the sales date, the royalties will be updated.
The forums have been disabled as of October and there are no current plans to restore this function.
Thank you for your patience.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Is the forum gone on the StockXpert-site? Or did they put some place where I can't find it? ???
noticed the same days ago.. is gone!
I didn't notice until someone mentioned it here, but there's nothing on the forum of interest or importance, so no loss.
I did notice that when I asked support a question, I got an answer in a couple of days, which blows away a few other sites, which take over a week to give a non-answer "we're working on it" and up to eternity. (never an answer) ;)
My question was about closing the account and the answer was, sure, just remove the images and make the request for final payment. A nice polite, answer to the straight question.
No clauses, no 30 days, no 90 days, just cut and run and they will pay me whatever I have, even though it's under the minimum payout levels. Don't try that with the same sites that don't answer or refuse to pay for a closed account, unless they owe you $50! $30 for BigStock, but I think all the rest bumped it up to $50 now.
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KAACHING! Well, actually kaaching ;D
September earnings are posted...
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Dang! Fell short by ninety cents. >:(
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Not me! I get a payout this month. And it only took nine months to gestate. ;)
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Still less than I got from StockXpert :-(
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i think its better than 123rf, no needs for uploading and you can keep earning money from TS/StockXpert but you can not get a rare dl from 123rf even you continue uploading files to there every month >"< >:(
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Questions, do you make 25 cents per sale through StockXpert?
Does StockXpert accept new images? What are their standards, a high as Istock?
Do they accept images at their minimum size, which if I recall was was around 2mb.
In January when things slow down for me again I would consider downsizing to XS for 25 cents if there were sales (wow, think of how fast the uploading would be!) It's no worse than I selling XXL on FT for 37 cents. Other than the fact that I would be supporting ThinkStock. (I have had 19 cent sales at Istock and that will be going down in the near future...)
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Dang! Fell short by ninety cents. >:(
I fell short by 25 cents...the only good thing about it is I'm pretty sure I'll get a payout next :-\
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i think its better than 123rf, no needs for uploading and you can keep earning money from TS/StockXpert but you can not get a rare dl from 123rf even you continue uploading files to there every month >"< >:(
Your experience, not mine. For me, 123 outperforms StockXpert by quite a bit (3:1 this month, almost 6:1 last), and of course they take my new work. I consider that a benefit, not a drawback.
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Questions, do you make 25 cents per sale through StockXpert?
Does StockXpert accept new images? What are their standards, a high as Istock?
Do they accept images at their minimum size, which if I recall was was around 2mb.
In January when things slow down for me again I would consider downsizing to XS for 25 cents if there were sales (wow, think of how fast the uploading would be!) It's no worse than I selling XXL on FT for 37 cents. Other than the fact that I would be supporting ThinkStock. (I have had 19 cent sales at Istock and that will be going down in the near future...)
StockXpert quit accepting new images earlier this year.
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Isn't there a way to tell which, or if, iStock images are transferred to Thinkstock?
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Isn't there a way to tell which, or if, iStock images are transferred to Thinkstock?
Yes, go to TS, type 'your name' and then go to Collections and choose Istockphoto collection ( or hemera, if you want to see your StockXpert images).
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Isn't there a way to tell which, or if, iStock images are transferred to Thinkstock?
Yes, go to TS, type 'your name' and then go to Collections and choose Istockphoto collection ( or hemera, if you want to see your StockXpert images).
And click the box that says "search within results" you'll get only your own images.
Now I remember why I kept the StockXpert files up for sale for 25c each. Because there are over 100 that IS refused and they are also refused by everyplace else, except maybe a few on BigStock. But that means that I'm selling a few dollars worth each month, that aren't for sale anywhere else. (And maybe shouldn't be either) :)
Here's one that I'm pretty sure everyplace refused, even Snap Villiage.
http://tinyurl.com/334n7hw (http://tinyurl.com/334n7hw)
Now that's "CRAPSTOCK"at it's best. (image link was a cache, so it vanished.)
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Hi all,
anyone know how long thinkstock payment takes to get to paypal?
I requested it on the 19th and nothing still?
Thanks,
nick
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Hi all,
anyone know how long thinkstock payment takes to get to paypal?
I requested it on the 19th and nothing still?
Thanks,
nick
I'm wondering the same thing.
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I just now sent them a email asking if there is a prob or this is a normal wait, tomorow will be one week since i requested payment. I will let you know what the responce is, when i get one.
Nick
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Hi all,
anyone know how long thinkstock payment takes to get to paypal?
I requested it on the 19th and nothing still?
Thanks,
nick
I'm wondering the same thing.
Just got a responce to my question. There is some tecnical difficulty gping on.
Below is part of the email
"Thank you very much for your email.
We experienced technical problems with the payment system. Your earnings will be
sent to you by the end of this week.
I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. "
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At least someone is answering the phone ;) and pretty quickly, at that...
Doesn't change the fact that the matrix of the Getty universe seems to be full of glitches lately :P
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Leaves me wonder how accurate their accounting system is?
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Just got a single pay-per-dowload $26.00 sale posted to StockXpert? I didn't know that could happen, so far only 25 cent sales, anyone else ever see that? It was also reported separately from the subscription sales on a different date. hmm is there hope for thinkstock after all...this boosts the usual $5 dollars a month a little.
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Just got a single pay-per-dowload $26.00 sale posted to StockXpert? I didn't know that could happen, so far only 25 cent sales, anyone else ever see that? It was also reported separately from the subscription sales on a different date. hmm is there hope for thinkstock after all...this boosts the usual $5 dollars a month a little.
Even more reason to ponder their accounting procedures. ::)
And, if they have so much trouble with the contributor end of the business ... wonder what buyers are going through? >:(
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Just got a single pay-per-dowload $26.00 sale posted to StockXpert? I didn't know that could happen, so far only 25 cent sales, anyone else ever see that? It was also reported separately from the subscription sales on a different date. hmm is there hope for thinkstock after all...this boosts the usual $5 dollars a month a little.
had a 6.6$
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Just got a single pay-per-dowload $26.00 sale posted to StockXpert? I didn't know that could happen, so far only 25 cent sales, anyone else ever see that? It was also reported separately from the subscription sales on a different date. hmm is there hope for thinkstock after all...this boosts the usual $5 dollars a month a little.
had a 6.6$
Where are y'all seeing this? Doesn't StockXpert update only once a month?
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Just got a single pay-per-dowload $26.00 sale posted to StockXpert? I didn't know that could happen, so far only 25 cent sales, anyone else ever see that? It was also reported separately from the subscription sales on a different date. hmm is there hope for thinkstock after all...this boosts the usual $5 dollars a month a little.
had a 6.6$
Where are y'all seeing this? Doesn't StockXpert update only once a month?
yes but today for the first time a pay per down
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yes but today for the first time a pay per down
To me it sounds like an accounting error. For one thing, StockXpert no longer exists. What you SHOULD be getting paid for are images that moved from StockXpert to Thinkstock when Getty bought StockXpert, if you opted in to that nonsense. And Thinkstock is a subscription-based site. Unless something has changed (actually, a LOT has changed) you shouldn't be seeing ANY PPDs coming from StockXpert/Thinkstock.
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yes but today for the first time a pay per down
To me it sounds like an accounting error. For one thing, StockXpert no longer exists. What you SHOULD be getting paid for are images that moved from StockXpert to Thinkstock when Getty bought StockXpert, if you opted in to that nonsense. And Thinkstock is a subscription-based site. Unless something has changed (actually, a LOT has changed) you shouldn't be seeing ANY PPDs coming from StockXpert/Thinkstock.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1oKZEeeNgSk/TMdRFPy4JsI/AAAAAAAAAdM/3oMGrUx_r90/s1600/xp.PNG)
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Thanks, Luis. I had stopped daily checks, only looking for the monthly sales. I'll have to check more often ... and keep my fingers crossed. :-) 8)
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Thanks, Luis. I had stopped daily checks, only looking for the monthly sales. I'll have to check more often ... and keep my fingers crossed. :-) 8)
install picniche :)
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yes but today for the first time a pay per down
To me it sounds like an accounting error. For one thing, StockXpert no longer exists. What you SHOULD be getting paid for are images that moved from StockXpert to Thinkstock when Getty bought StockXpert, if you opted in to that nonsense. And Thinkstock is a subscription-based site. Unless something has changed (actually, a LOT has changed) you shouldn't be seeing ANY PPDs coming from StockXpert/Thinkstock.
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You didn't have to show proof, I believed you! But it just goes to show that the way things were explained to us back then don't mean anything today. Why are there Thinkstock pay per downloads, it was all supposed to be subscriptions. Unless it is an errant StockXpert download that they just discovered, but then it should have been put under StockXpert pay per download. Frankly, I don't trust them about much of anything nowadays.
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I see, it was the first month with them that's all I can say! :)
I have heard that from Partner Program there are also that kind of sales, never had one..
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I had one last month for $6 as did several other folks (we all posted on the StockXpert forum before it was shut down). It seems they post the PPD sales once a month, too...just on a different day.
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I see, it was the first month with them that's all I can say! :)
I have heard that from Partner Program there are also that kind of sales, never had one..
Yes! We can have PPD sales on TS, in practice it rarely happens,but yes, mainly ELs...
I have one on PP through IS...
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I see, it was the first month with them that's all I can say! :)
I have heard that from Partner Program there are also that kind of sales, never had one..
Yes! We can have PPD sales on TS, in practice it rarely happens,but yes...
I have one on PP through IS...
good to know once I have almost more sales on PP than the regular IS ones..
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What's PP?
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What's PP?
Partner program...
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Hi all,
anyone know how long thinkstock payment takes to get to paypal?
I requested it on the 19th and nothing still?
Thanks,
nick
I'm wondering the same thing.
Just got a responce to my question. There is some tecnical difficulty gping on.
Below is part of the email
"Thank you very much for your email.
We experienced technical problems with the payment system. Your earnings will be
sent to you by the end of this week.
I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. "
So much for receiving our payments at the end of the week. :::sigh::: ::)
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FYI:
its November and im Still waiting for my pmt! I requested it in oct 19th.
I sent them a 2nd email today. Last email they said they are experiencing some kind of tecnical problems.
sigh
anyone else who has received a pmt, how long did it take?
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The same thing. 19th, still nothing >:(
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The same thing. 19th, still nothing >:(
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October earnings have been posted - with an all time low for me :P
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October earnings have been posted - with an all time low for me :P
hope that in a few days the pay per download enter :P
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Some more (subscription) downloads just appeared in my account - this turns into an IS-like three-day-accounting party :D
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Some more (subscription) downloads just appeared in my account - this turns into an IS-like three-day-accounting party :D
yep, where are the pay per download?? :P
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Some more (subscription) downloads just appeared in my account - this turns into an IS-like three-day-accounting party :D
Me too. I requested my money as soon as I saw the November Earnings Report. Now, there,s more money in the bank. What's going on? ???
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Some more (subscription) downloads just appeared in my account - this turns into an IS-like three-day-accounting party :D
Me too. I requested my money as soon as I saw the November Earnings Report. Now, there,s more money in the bank. What's going on? ???
I donīt :P (I havenīt)
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how often the thinkstock earnings are posted? i just checked my stockxpert, and there are 2 continuous date 15 and 16 november, both are subscriptions earnings.
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That's it for this month. Once a month.
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That's it for this month. Once a month.
how do you know that?
last month had a pay per download the week after
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Sorry, I don't know about pay per download. I have only .25 sales :(
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Stockxpert (Thinkstock) sales have been posted.. and not bad.. used to have 10$ to 15$.. this month 253 downloads.. anyone else?
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yes same here huge jump with 206 dl's.....
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A huge surprise here also, 200 DL, normally I get 10 -20 in a mounth
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More than 1000 here, and still growing... there is a glitch... :o
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741 ($185.25) downloads posted today, normally less than $20 per month! Either a glitch or Christmas come early!
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It seems to be a glitch... it's the same sales repeating, repeating, repeating, repeating...
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You still believe to Santa ? :D
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370, usually 30-50..
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It just added 15 more sales, 385
ETA: 405, definitely a glitch.
I wouldn't request the money right away. Wait till they fix it
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It seems to be a glitch... it's the same sales repeating, repeating, repeating, repeating...
Somebody should work on their SQL skills ;D
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Here is the feeling of beeing yuri Arcurs... ;)
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Oh cool, another $50 added in last 30 mins! I wonder if I can get 20 payouts today! ;-) Yes its got to be a glitch!
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Glitches that require fixes. Money going in, going out, confusion. It will really be difficult to keep track of your actual earnings. Whoops! ;)
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almost $200 now haha:) really number should be $15-20...
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I'm up to 481 now... Sales have never been better. How are you guys doing? ;D
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At least I had a happy moment when I saw my 178 DL ... Too bad it is definitely some kind of mistake.
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I should have known it was a fsckup. I can see 14 repetitions of the sales pattern so far, and they're still coming.
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December 10, 2010
(Thinkstock subscription) 923 $230.75
I am going to request it :)
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My December Thinkstock earnings show 37 downloads before repeating themselves over and over again. So I guess those are valid and the rest is air
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Thankfully. I got scared everyone migrated over to TS.
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14 repetitions.. but I am going to have 2x the usual..
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Thankfully. I got scared everyone migrated over to TS.
A glitch no doubt but it is possible your earnings there will go up. Buyers don't want to leave IS altogether, so they're finding what they need over on Thinkstock. Some of you do have the exact same images in both places, no?
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Thankfully. I got scared everyone migrated over to TS.
A glitch no doubt but it is possible your earnings there will go up. Buyers don't want to leave IS altogether, so they're finding what they need over on Thinkstock. Some of you do have the exact same images in both places, no?
no, that's not possible.. duplicates were taken, there was no point to keep the same pictures..
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Wishful thinking....could they be clearing their books of sales not reported throughout the year by some error. My sales were so poor since they took over and I would have expected more. Again, just wishfully thinking
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BTW, I requested a payout just in case.
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BTW, I requested a payout just in case.
LOL :)
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Wishful thinking....could they be clearing their books of sales not reported throughout the year by some error. My sales were so poor since they took over and I would have expected more. Again, just wishfully thinking
Unfortunately there is a pattern of repetition. For me its a pattern of 88 image downloads being repeated over and over. So I know that my true figure is $22 not $286. Take your total and divide by 13 and that will most likely be what your correct sales total will be.
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Wishful thinking....could they be clearing their books of sales not reported throughout the year by some error. My sales were so poor since they took over and I would have expected more. Again, just wishfully thinking
Take your total and divide by 13 and that will most likely be what your correct sales total will be.
We passed 13 a while ago. I'm on repetition #18 of my 75 sales.
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When I checked my numbers this morning, I was like "Oh! some partner just woke up and sent on year's worth of sales to close the yearly books." But, err, it is in my case the same 45 sales repeating over and over...
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Must be Getty's way of making up for iStock contributor shortages. ::) :o ;D
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also, don't forget most sales happen in the last quarter of the year at Getty ;D
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Crazy 2000 and counting, sad and funny at the same time this must be a small glimpse into what a guy like Yuri must see every day, but come on fix it already!
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Crazy that just as the search engine at IS is getting fixed, the reporting system at TS gets broken. It's like the Getty IT folks are losing some crazy game of Whack-a-mole. Completely absurd!!
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Crazy that just as the search engine at IS is getting fixed, the reporting system at TS gets broken. It's like the Getty IT folks are losing some crazy game of Whack-a-mole. Completely absurd!!
Make you wonder how the "buyer end" is working? ??? :o
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also, don't forget most sales happen in the last quarter of the year at Getty ;D
Yeah, too bad it's unsustainable. :'(
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are all you guys had get confirmation it is a glitch?
the past sales in stockxpert/thinkstock is all reported at same days, same time. It wasn't a glitch too..
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Despite the glitch, I still earned about 4x more than I've earned at TS in previous months. So at least that's something to smile about! ;)
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Despite the glitch, I still earned about 4x more than I've earned at TS in previous months. So at least that's something to smile about! ;)
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Is this real? are they clearing the books, or is it just a pipe dream?
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Getty Leaks! :P :P :P
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I can't believe no one has started a thread about on the IS forum yet. IT might not even know there's a problem yet! ;)
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Is this real? are they clearing the books, or is it just a pipe dream?
Pipe dream. If you look closely, you'll see that it's the exact same bunch of images being reported again and again. My first batch of 75 starts at 4:14am and finishes at 4:25am. Then that same bunch of 75 repeats from 4:27am to 4:37am. And again and again, a total of 27 times so far.
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It might just speed up the inevitable if one of you with the repeating sales reports it to IS support. Incompetent though their IT is, they'll figure it out eventually.
I find mistakes with earnings to be really, really worrying though. We've had the EL problems, subscription sales that were delayed more than 1 day, the rounding error in subscription sales for certain royalty levels and now this. It's bad enough they can't lay out a web page straight, but the money has to be right.
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Is this real? are they clearing the books, or is it just a pipe dream?
Pipe dream. If you look closely, you'll see that it's the exact same bunch of images being reported again and again. My first batch of 75 starts at 4:14am and finishes at 4:25am. Then that same bunch of 75 repeats from 4:27am to 4:37am. And again and again, a total of 27 times so far.
Mine starts at 4:14 a.m. as well. Someone must not have slept well last night. ;)
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It might just speed up the inevitable if one of you with the repeating sales reports it to IS support. Incompetent though their IT is, they'll figure it out eventually.
Done. We'll see how quickly they respond.
I find mistakes with earnings to be really, really worrying though. We've had the EL problems, subscription sales that were delayed more than 1 day, the rounding error in subscription sales for certain royalty levels and now this. It's bad enough they can't lay out a web page straight, but the money has to be right.
Is this the first time the error's been in our favor? That's how we can tell it's a real bug; features always favor the house. ;)
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It might just speed up the inevitable if one of you with the repeating sales reports it to IS support. Incompetent though their IT is, they'll figure it out eventually.
Done. We'll see how quickly they respond.
I find mistakes with earnings to be really, really worrying though. We've had the EL problems, subscription sales that were delayed more than 1 day, the rounding error in subscription sales for certain royalty levels and now this. It's bad enough they can't lay out a web page straight, but the money has to be right.
Is this the first time the error's been in our favor? That's how we can tell it's a real bug; features always favor the house. ;)
With so much misreporting (or no reporting), how can one tell if it's in our favor or theirs?
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Wow, almost $4000 here, I think it's the Christmas extra. Nice :P
When will they wake up there?
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Wowza! I guess all these months I thought the ThinkStock earnings were reflected in the partner program earnings at iStock and we took payouts there. So I haven't even been checking my StockXpert earnings page until today. I feel pretty dumb, but also like I found a pile of cash on the floor. I'm going with the elated feeling.
What's the consensus on how much these are inflated due to the glitch? My balance is $2,892 with apparently $2,517 of that showing up today.... and yes, I'm seeing duplication on some, but not all of those downloads. Very weird. Anyway, I requested a payout of $2,892, so we'll see what happens. I'll probably end up with several hundred bucks I guess, which is several hundred richer than I felt earlier today.
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If you look at past months, they do report with repeated sales lumped together. Just not usually this many of them. Holy cow. If this is real, I'm fairly pleased, too!
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Another thought. Maybe these are all legit downloads and not duplicates. Perhaps today's numbers represent several weeks or months of downloads -- a period in which good sellers would have sold multiple times. For some reason the sales weren't posting to our balances as they should have been, and for whatever the reason, everything was dumped into our balances in one fell swoop today. That might explain why the duplication is inconsistent, with some files duplicated six times in my earnings sheet and others apparently appearing only once. I'm hoping this is the case and the numbers we're seeing are real. Will certainly make for a very merry Christmas at my home.
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Another thought. Maybe these are all legit downloads and not duplicates.
More evidence that denial is more than a river in Egypt.
Going through today's reported sales, I find 7 images with 26 reported sales, 61 with 27 reported sales, 3 with 28 sales, 1 with 52 (2 x 26) and 1 with 54 (2 x 27). Feels like some tweaking or correcting between runs, but still way too consistent to be real sales activity.
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SHHHHHH.........cash out, keep your mouth shut....this inflated sales doesn't even come close to what we lost when they dumped our images on TS. It is very possible these are sales that probably were never reported before and they are just clearing the back log. no need to start sending emails to IS they have too much to worry about for us to bother them such a tiny bug like this. ;)
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Going through today's reported sales, I find 7 images with 26 reported sales, 61 with 27 reported sales, 3 with 28 sales, 1 with 52 (2 x 26) and 1 with 54 (2 x 27). Feels like some tweaking or correcting between runs, but still way too consistent to be real sales activity.
I'm still going to play the optimist here. When I first glanced through my 10,700+ sales reported today, I saw clusters of several repeats, then some with none. I wanted to do a breakdown as you did on your sales, but each time I try to grab all the sales in the browser window for copying and pasting into a spreadsheet, my browser crashes. I guess I'll just wait and see.
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Another thought. Maybe these are all legit downloads and not duplicates.
More evidence that denial is more than a river in Egypt.
Going through today's reported sales, I find 7 images with 26 reported sales, 61 with 27 reported sales, 3 with 28 sales, 1 with 52 (2 x 26) and 1 with 54 (2 x 27). Feels like some tweaking or correcting between runs, but still way too consistent to be real sales activity.
I saw mine and thought, wow someone woke up the sales department. Then I noticed it was all repeats of the same images, over and over. Sorry but there "ain't no Santi Clause" :) It's all going to get reversed soon.
Sad part is it would have been the first time that ThinkStock passed up IS or SS for me. LOL
I won't be buying that new wide angle for Christmas.
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StockXpert is now down.
http://www.stockxpert.com/home/closed (http://www.stockxpert.com/home/closed)
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Another thought. Maybe these are all legit downloads and not duplicates.
These are definitely duplicates. My sales are being reported in identical clusters of the same 128 images over and over again.
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Another thought. Maybe these are all legit downloads and not duplicates.
These are definitely duplicates. My sales are being reported in identical clusters of the same 128 images over and over again.
Yes! I had 3$ before three days... Today I have more than 900 dls of same photos in many identical clusters...
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Incredible, still no thread on the IS forum...unless there has been and it's been squashed like a bug so as not to ruin the big, exciting F5 news!
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I can't access the stockxpert site right now. The login page is missing - maybe they're eventually aware.
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Incredible, still no thread on the IS forum...unless there has been and it's been squashed like a bug so as not to ruin the big, exciting F5 news!
There are two, but not much activity in either - here (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281082&page=1) and here (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281012&page=1).
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Incredible, still no thread on the IS forum...unless there has been and it's been squashed like a bug so as not to ruin the big, exciting F5 news!
There are two, but not much activity in either - here ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281082&page=1[/url]) and here ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281012&page=1[/url]).
No wonder I didn't see them...one in the Help section and one in the Off-Topic section. ::) You're right, not much going on.
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Incredible, still no thread on the IS forum...unless there has been and it's been squashed like a bug so as not to ruin the big, exciting F5 news!
There are two, but not much activity in either - here ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281082&page=1[/url]) and here ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=281012&page=1[/url]).
And not a wooyay in sight.
No wonder I didn't see them...one in the Help section and one in the Off-Topic section. ::) You're right, not much going on.
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It looks like they outsourced this site to kindergarten to save money :-)
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It looks like they outsourced this site to kindergarten to save money :-)
The merging and transition to ThinkStock was managed by the same kindergarten class. Even though I still have my StockXpert photos for sale, ThinkStock was either a way to trash the site, removing it from the marketplace intentionally or some executive with a bunch of yes people, who were afraid to say "What? Are You Crazy?"
Honestly there is a reasonable and simple answer. It has nothing to do with us, caring, or sales.
ThinkStock is a collection of outdated collections. Old sites that they owned that were lost and wasting away. This is all of those images, in one central location, getting squeezed for whatever small change they can get from the market. Go look. If all the IS partner shots were pulled by everyone, it wouldn't make a dimple in the size of the old stock warehouse. Small size, old content, it's kind of a rummage sale or outlet store, approach.
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So what are you all saying??? its worth joining TS ??
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So what are you all saying??? its worth joining TS ??
I'm not an all and far from the regulars who have bigger selections. I'm positive some people will jump out of their chairs screaming about the low 25c payments and others will tell you that it's a nice little bonus. :D In the end you'll have to decide for yourself if you want to expose your material to an inexpensive sub site and potentially dilute you sales elsewhere.
Personally, StockXpert took things that no other site would accept, so ThinkStock is the only place selling a bunch of my junk snapshots. If I can get paid for those, instead of having them nowhere, I'll take the quarters.
You can not submit to StockXpert anymore. You can not join ThinkStock. The only way to get new images on their site is upload to IS and include them in the partner program. So if you don't like 25c sales of your identical images that are on IS, being sold through subscription, the easy answer is, don't do it!
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So what are you all saying??? its worth joining TS ??
I'm not an all and far from the regulars who have bigger selections. I'm positive some people will jump out of their chairs screaming about the low 25c payments and others will tell you that it's a nice little bonus. :D In the end you'll have to decide for yourself if you want to expose your material to an inexpensive sub site and potentially dilute you sales elsewhere.
Personally, StockXpert took things that no other site would accept, so ThinkStock is the only place selling a bunch of my junk snapshots. If I can get paid for those, instead of having them nowhere, I'll take the quarters.
You can not submit to StockXpert anymore. You can not join ThinkStock. The only way to get new images on their site is upload to IS and include them in the partner program. So if you don't like 25c sales of your identical images that are on IS, being sold through subscription, the easy answer is, don't do it!
Agreeing with you!! so no thanks!
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awwwhhh looks like I missed the gravy train yesterday :) I can click 'log-in' but then I am taken to an error page.
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Perhaps people really were withdrawing huge amount of money they hadn't really earned? That's the only justification I can see for pulling the site offline completely.
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Perhaps people really were withdrawing huge amount of money they hadn't really earned? That's the only justification I can see for pulling the site offline completely.
I feel sure that it was a panic attack. "GET THAT THING DOWN UNTIL IT'S FIXED!!!" :o :-[
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Perhaps people really were withdrawing huge amount of money they hadn't really earned? That's the only justification I can see for pulling the site offline completely.
I feel sure that it was a panic attack. "GET THAT THING DOWN UNTIL IT'S FIXED!!!" :o :-[
Yeah, that's what I think too. The IT team doesn't seem to be able to fix things in any kind of hurry. Money is flowing from StockXpert like water at Niagara Falls and the only way they know to turn the faucet off is to take it all down.
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Thank god I requested a nice payout yesterday ;D
Honestly I think they should realize that if they don't take care of this right away, then they might end up with a situation like this on StockXpert.
I bet they have to wade through a load of payment requests, reversing those and straightening out their books just because some IT guy screwed up.
I wish for once iStock/Getty/StockXpert would employ IT people that actually hold a degree or at least know what they are doing.
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Oh *! I logged into StockXpert before I read this thread, and thought Christmas had come early! I requested a payment straight away, and now I realize I won't be getting it. :(
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I didn't realize this site would delete my mild reference to a device to hold back water!
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I didn't realize this site would delete my mild reference to a device to hold back water!
Yes, I've some words changed into mild child-proof versions, too.
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I love that the link on the non working StockXpert page it says "For all your stock photography needs go to iStockphoto." and then you click on the link and you get a page on a non-working istock page that says "iStockphoto is getting some upgrades" WooHoo they should have another link to ThinkStock that says you can buy all the same images for much cheaper here.
Nothing left to do but try to find humor in this ridiculousness
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My Partner Program earnings are $40+ already and still not fully updated.Something seems amiss.We shall see if anything official is said in the IS forum next week
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Thank god I requested a nice payout yesterday ;D
Honestly I think they should realize that if they don't take care of this right away, then they might end up with a situation like this on StockXpert.
I bet they have to wade through a load of payment requests, reversing those and straightening out their books just because some IT guy screwed up.
I wish for once iStock/Getty/StockXpert would employ IT people that actually hold a degree or at least know what they are doing.
Speaking of "Payment Request," I wonder how you request payment (or know if one is due) with the StockXpert site inoperative? I'm pretty sure it is down to resolve the "accounting issue" but what if it were eliminated?
Also noted that the payments made are from HAAP and not Getty, Thinkstock, nor iStock.
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Speaking of "Payment Request," I wonder how you request payment (or know if one is due) with the StockXpert site inoperative? I'm pretty sure it is down to resolve the "accounting issue" but what if it were eliminated?
Also noted that the payments made are from HAAP and not Getty, Thinkstock, nor iStock.
I am wondering the same thing. I didn't bother to request a payment for last month's earnings. They owe me money. And they remove the payment method without explanation or warning? That is not how business should be done by any company IMO.
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Speaking of "Payment Request," I wonder how you request payment (or know if one is due) with the StockXpert site inoperative? I'm pretty sure it is down to resolve the "accounting issue" but what if it were eliminated?
Also noted that the payments made are from HAAP and not Getty, Thinkstock, nor iStock.
Warren, so are you saying that all this time, since Getty bought StockXpert, that the payments were still coming from HAAP and not Getty/IS/ThinkStock? Does that make sense? I suppose, if Getty bought HAAP Media, which included StockXpert. ???
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Speaking of "Payment Request," I wonder how you request payment (or know if one is due) with the StockXpert site inoperative? I'm pretty sure it is down to resolve the "accounting issue" but what if it were eliminated?
Also noted that the payments made are from HAAP and not Getty, Thinkstock, nor iStock.
Warren, so are you saying that all this time, since Getty bought StockXpert, that the payments were still coming from HAAP and not Getty/IS/ThinkStock? Does that make sense? I suppose, if Getty bought HAAP Media, which included StockXpert. ???
Yep! Payment dated 8 December 2010 was from: HAAP Media USA, LLC
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I hope these sales continue.Mine finished on 237 downloads worth $83.68.Not an amount to sniff at
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3 days XP down.. I don't understand no reply from support or an announcement.. stock has always that element of surprise! :)
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3 days XP down.. I don't understand no reply from support or an announcement.. stock has always that element of surprise! :)
I had a response. "Should" be back up today with updated info.
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What a beautiful catastrophe :-)
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Still down ... all this really makes me trust in thinkstock and its monthly earning reports
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Thank god I requested a nice payout yesterday ;D
Honestly I think they should realize that if they don't take care of this right away, then they might end up with a situation like this on StockXpert.
I bet they have to wade through a load of payment requests, reversing those and straightening out their books just because some IT guy screwed up.
I wish for once iStock/Getty/StockXpert would employ IT people that actually hold a degree or at least know what they are doing.
Speaking of "Payment Request," I wonder how you request payment (or know if one is due) with the StockXpert site inoperative? I'm pretty sure it is down to resolve the "accounting issue" but what if it were eliminated?
Also noted that the payments made are from HAAP and not Getty, Thinkstock, nor iStock.
I requested the payout before the site went down - obviously.
You know when a payment is "due" when you exceed $50.
I don't care if they cancel my payment request, I know that many others requested one too, so iStock will have to feel the pain of letting some 4-graders program their accounting system.
Just suffer the consequences iStock, will ya?
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They should have transferred all images to IStock in first place...
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They should have transferred all images to IStock in first place...
Why make things easy when there is a complicated way?
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They only reason to make things not transparent is to make it possible to cheat.
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And its up again, and the 1400 sales last reported all gone, thought there might have been a few dollars despite the "glitch"but none zip nothing, think its time i pulled my port i seriously doubt that were being credited correctly.
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wow after THREE days they are back ... and ... now it seems that there was NOT ONE sale last month ... this is so embarrassing, so ridiculous, so annoying, so * UNPROFESSIONAL
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
As if it was really important that StockXpert is online 100% of the time. I only need it online for 2 minutes once a month to request payment.
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It is online now, all those dl for december are gone now :P
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I'm thinking they picked a restore point from back-up....probably the only way to be sure of a smooth recovery.
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:-[ ...and my money?
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
And in the meantime they also probably forgot it's the holiday season when lots of folks like to cash out built up balances. :-\
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how is this possible? don't get so many incompetence after 10 years!
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how is this possible? don't get so many incompetence after 10 years!
I do...
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1252/3stoogesx.gif)
Larry, Curly and Mo are behind all these stock agencies decisions and programming. :)
By the way, it's back and corrected.
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
I would guess you are right. I am sure we didn't all have 0 sales... :) They just haven't reported them yet.
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
I would guess you are right. I am sure we didn't all have 0 sales... :) They just haven't reported them yet.
We got our numbers. we sold 11 PP's for Nov for a huge ammount of 3.30$.
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I'm guessing they're going to test their sales processing script really carefully. And once they're confident it's right, they'll report last month's sales. Better to get the site back online without November sales than keep it down for days more, or so I suspect they convinced themselves.
I would guess you are right. I am sure we didn't all have 0 sales... :) They just haven't reported them yet.
We got our numbers. we sold 11 PP's for Nov for a huge ammount of 3.30$.
They are talking about XP (Hemera collection)
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I think they have been posting updates on or after 15th of the month?
My last payout was dated 15 November.
Maybe tomorrow, huh? ::)
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I finally got an email in response to the bug report I sent. They're talking end of the month for reporting November's sales. They might beat that, but I won't be surprised if they don't. In any event, I'm assuming that my numbers will match one iteration of the repeated sales I saw before the shutdown. Not nearly enough for a payout, so it doesn't much matter when they get it working.
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I finally got an email in response to the bug report I sent. They're talking end of the month for reporting November's sales. They might beat that, but I won't be surprised if they don't. In any event, I'm assuming that my numbers will match one iteration of the repeated sales I saw before the shutdown. Not nearly enough for a payout, so it doesn't much matter when they get it working.
"One iteration of the repeated sales before the shutdown" is pretty in line with my previous months' ernings, so I agree that's what we can expect. I wonder why they need to delay sales report. Well, not really wondering: logic does not belong here in microstock.
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I finally got an email in response to the bug report I sent. They're talking end of the month for reporting November's sales. They might beat that, but I won't be surprised if they don't. In any event, I'm assuming that my numbers will match one iteration of the repeated sales I saw before the shutdown. Not nearly enough for a payout, so it doesn't much matter when they get it working.
Thanks for posting this but it is really unprofessional that we have to find out this info from someone on some forum...I'm sure most people don't read forums everyday...how about some direct communication . . . an email or a post from someone from one of these companies-inside-a-company-inside-a-company who actually knows what . is going on with all our money... a post here or somewhere...WHERE DID MY MONEY GO!!!!!!!!!! I AM FURIOUS!!! I love that someone is earning interest on thousands of contributers sales, the longer they wait to pay the more interest on this unpaid money they can earn, when you are talking thousands of sales that interest becomes a significant boost in income for these companies....there is no reason that it should take an entire month to report earnings from previous month when every other site reports earnings within a few hours of sales!
Is there any way to selectively pull out of thinkstock through istock while keeping the other partners or is it an all or nothing thing?
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I finally got an email in response to the bug report I sent. They're talking end of the month for reporting November's sales. They might beat that, but I won't be surprised if they don't. In any event, I'm assuming that my numbers will match one iteration of the repeated sales I saw before the shutdown. Not nearly enough for a payout, so it doesn't much matter when they get it working.
Thanks for posting this but it is really unprofessional that we have to find out this info from someone on some forum...I'm sure most people don't read forums everyday...how about some direct communication . . . an email or a post from someone from one of these companies-inside-a-company-inside-a-company who actually knows what . is going on with all our money... a post here or somewhere...WHERE DID MY MONEY GO!!!!!!!!!! I AM FURIOUS!!! I love that someone is earning interest on thousands of contributers sales, the longer they wait to pay the more interest on this unpaid money they can earn, when you are talking thousands of sales that interest becomes a significant boost in income for these companies....there is no reason that it should take an entire month to report earnings from previous month when every other site reports earnings within a few hours of sales!
Is there any way to selectively pull out of thinkstock through istock while keeping the other partners or is it an all or nothing thing?
You are either in Partner Programs or you're out. Period. And in my humble opinion, I don't understand why anyone wants to be in Partner Programs. None of the sites separate out the income you receive from PP. IS was the only one, with Thinkstock. And now that is broken and being misreported.
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Crap, I wanted my $4000. Homeboy needs a new plasma TV !!! :-*
I say we should all get at least 50% of what they previously reported, just in good faith. Yeah right. ::)
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Nothing yet???
Not so sure that "no news is good news." >:(
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Got this late this afternoon:
"As you may have noticed, we experienced technical problems with the StockXpert site and the payment system. In order to re-store the site functionality we had to cancel all payment requests. You are receiving this notice as your account was affected. Please kindly log into your account and make your payment request again. As a reminder, the minimum balance for Moneybookers and Paypal payments is 50.00 USD. Our last scheduled payment for the year is on December 23, 2010. Starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and wish you all a peaceful time during this festive season.
Thank you.
The StockXpert Team."
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Got this late this afternoon:
"As you may have noticed, we experienced technical problems with the StockXpert site and the payment system. In order to re-store the site functionality we had to cancel all payment requests. You are receiving this notice as your account was affected. Please kindly log into your account and make your payment request again. As a reminder, the minimum balance for Moneybookers and Paypal payments is 50.00 USD. Our last scheduled payment for the year is on December 23, 2010. Starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and wish you all a peaceful time during this festive season.
Thank you.
The StockXpert Team."
LOL request what if the earnings aren't posted
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Is there any way to selectively pull out of thinkstock through istock while keeping the other partners or is it an all or nothing thing?
Hahaha, good luck with that. I've tried for months to get my images off the site, it seems to be impossible. They're redirecting you to their "colleagues in Calgary that might be able to help you" and never hear back.
So now I'm doing a list of Item Numbers and demand them to remove the items listed, it's a very tiresome process however, as I have to look up every single image through their search engine with my own keywords. Of course there's no way to see your portfolio or your credits on the images, which is alarming in itself. I'm just furious because I NEVER opted into this program, the checkbox at StockXpert would go and check itself back once in a while and that's how my images ended up there - I did everything I could to stop the transfer. Didn't help to remove all my images from Stockxpert, too late I guess and they're on seperate servers.
You should think that by being the copyright holder of your images you retain the right to decide where to sell your images, but apparently not. I suspect this happened to many of us and I'm afraid it's going to work for them.
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Is there any way to selectively pull out of thinkstock through istock while keeping the other partners or is it an all or nothing thing?
Hahaha, good luck with that. I've tried for months to get my images off the site, it seems to be impossible. They're redirecting you to their "colleagues in Calgary that might be able to help you" and never hear back.
So now I'm doing a list of Item Numbers and demand them to remove the items listed, it's a very tiresome process however, as I have to look up every single image through their search engine with my own keywords. Of course there's no way to see your portfolio or your credits on the images, which is alarming in itself. I'm just furious because I NEVER opted into this program, the checkbox at StockXpert would go and check itself back once in a while and that's how my images ended up there - I did everything I could to stop the transfer. Didn't help to remove all my images from Stockxpert, too late I guess and they're on seperate servers.
You should think that by being the copyright holder of your images you retain the right to decide where to sell your images, but apparently not. I suspect this happened to many of us and I'm afraid it's going to work for them.
Am I missing the obvious in your post?
Go to ThinkStock and enter your registration name, not pseudonym, in quotes and all your images should come up.
There has been much confusion back and forth about single or double quotes, but trust me, just use "Your Name" that you registered with and all your images will show.
I hope that was the question?
Then you can cut and paste the file numbers into the text message with the remove request.
But I just logged into StockXpert with my account, clicked My Account --> My Images and there they all are? Click the box on the right of each image and then the "Delete" command and they should go away. Cut and paste works on the file numbers there too...
OK so tell me that you can't get to your account, but your images are still there, for sale on ThinkStock or something that I totally missed. ;)
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so tell me that you can't get to your account, but your images are still there, for sale on ThinkStock or something that I totally missed. ;)
Thomas can reply to your question about HIS account, but I can tell you about mine. I did all the steps you talked about the day IS announced it's purchase of StockXpert. I DID NOT want my images going to TS. I was opted out AND I went to StockXpert, deleted all my images, then requested that my account be closed, which it was, eventually. But my images STILL showed on TS. It took me a few weeks of hounding support to get them down. At the same time I was doing this, Thomas was having the same problem, and his STILL isn't resolved.
There are a number of contributors in this situation. Their images are being sold without their permission. To me, that sounds an awful lot like copyright infringement, but who do you think has the upper hand legally? Copyright infringement is just words used by corporate attorneys. The little guys stand no chance of ever enforcing it.
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so tell me that you can't get to your account, but your images are still there, for sale on ThinkStock or something that I totally missed. ;)
Thomas can reply to your question about HIS account, but I can tell you about mine. I did all the steps you talked about the day IS announced it's purchase of StockXpert. I DID NOT want my images going to TS. I was opted out AND I went to StockXpert, deleted all my images, then requested that my account be closed, which it was, eventually. But my images STILL showed on TS. It took me a few weeks of hounding support to get them down. At the same time I was doing this, Thomas was having the same problem, and his STILL isn't resolved.
There are a number of contributors in this situation. Their images are being sold without their permission. To me, that sounds an awful lot like copyright infringement, but who do you think has the upper hand legally? Copyright infringement is just words used by corporate attorneys. The little guys stand no chance of ever enforcing it.
Wasn't the in February? I remember you writing about that when they were doing the Three Stooges Routine about migration, closing accounts, paying people for closed accounts, and supposedly not moving files from people who never opted in, in the first place. Oh but people who opted in, and kept their accounts open, were not getting their images transferred! :D
When did it finally get fixed?
That's why I asked if I was pointing out the obvious, because sometimes people don't know that they can delete their own images by checking the boxes on the right and it's supposed to remove them, without writing a long list and having StockXpert get around to it. Or maybe he didn't know he could do a cut and paste, instead of manually typing in all those numbers?
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Nothing has been fixed. The same problems exist that were there in February. And even if Thomas didn't know he could delete his own images, you still have to contact support to have the account closed. I did all that, and yet it remained. And Thomas isn't the only person in this same situation. And yes, there are still people who DID want their images there who can't get them there. And check out the other thread here...people are still able to log in and see other people's account. That has been happening all along, too.
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Is there any way to selectively pull out of thinkstock through istock while keeping the other partners or is it an all or nothing thing?
Hahaha, good luck with that. I've tried for months to get my images off the site, it seems to be impossible. They're redirecting you to their "colleagues in Calgary that might be able to help you" and never hear back.
So now I'm doing a list of Item Numbers and demand them to remove the items listed, it's a very tiresome process however, as I have to look up every single image through their search engine with my own keywords. Of course there's no way to see your portfolio or your credits on the images, which is alarming in itself. I'm just furious because I NEVER opted into this program, the checkbox at StockXpert would go and check itself back once in a while and that's how my images ended up there - I did everything I could to stop the transfer. Didn't help to remove all my images from Stockxpert, too late I guess and they're on seperate servers.
You should think that by being the copyright holder of your images you retain the right to decide where to sell your images, but apparently not. I suspect this happened to many of us and I'm afraid it's going to work for them.
Am I missing the obvious in your post?
Go to ThinkStock and enter your registration name, not pseudonym, in quotes and all your images should come up.
There has been much confusion back and forth about single or double quotes, but trust me, just use "Your Name" that you registered with and all your images will show.
I hope that was the question?
Then you can cut and paste the file numbers into the text message with the remove request.
But I just logged into StockXpert with my account, clicked My Account --> My Images and there they all are? Click the box on the right of each image and then the "Delete" command and they should go away. Cut and paste works on the file numbers there too...
OK so tell me that you can't get to your account, but your images are still there, for sale on ThinkStock or something that I totally missed. ;)
Hi RacePhoto,
Thanks a lot for letting me know this easy way of finding all my images at ThinkStock. I would have never thought of that myself! Makes it a lot easier to make the list of item numbers
Regarding images at StockXpert, I was advised months ago to delete all my images off StockXpert and they would be automatically removed at TS as well after a while. So I went and did that, but they were still on TS (But obviously not on StockXpert anymore, so my account -> my images shows "no images here" at this point).
Hopefully I can send TS the complete list of item numbers now and get this sorted out at last.
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Thank you very much for your email.
We will not be able to update the November royalties until early in January, 2011.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Thank you very much for your email.
We will not be able to update the November royalties until early in January, 2011.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
Still waiting ... here's a cut'n'paste from my query:
Thank you very much for your email.
We are hoping to have the November results posted within the next few days. We are still working on correcting the problems we encountered back in December. Please rest assured that the November earnings will be posted as soon as we can.
Thank you for your patience with this and I sincerely apologize for the delay and any inconvenience this may have caused.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Where is my money from way back in November!?
Will we have to wait until February for our December sales or are they just going to wait so long that we forget and just skip paying us at all?
We were told that thinkstock royalties would be paid out within 10 days of the end of the month and now we are waiting two months!! Give me my money! NOW! This is outrageous!
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Cmoan smacks you can do it better
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Where is my money from way back in November!?
Will we have to wait until February for our December sales or are they just going to wait so long that we forget and just skip paying us at all?
We were told that thinkstock royalties would be paid out within 10 days of the end of the month and now we are waiting two months!! Give me my money! NOW! This is outrageous!
+1.. I am wondering how much will it be, I have the exact number..
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No News; No News; No News.
In this case, I don't know that No News is Good News. This is absolutely ridiculous. Certainly makes you appreciate the professionalism and consistency of Shutter Stock. :-\
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Didn't they say EARLY Januar? Can we rely on anything they say? It is really hard to beat this unprofessionalism.
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each time I see this thread pop to the top I think .. ahhh the earnings have finally been posted. not so.
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each time I see this thread pop to the top I think .. ahhh the earnings have finally been posted. not so.
+1 ;D
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emailed istock support and got a similar answer.....
"Thank you very much for your email.
We encountered a major technical problem while adding the November Royalties to the StockXpert accounts. We are working on correcting the problem and the November as well as December royalties will be posted soon, our hope is within the next fee days.
I apologize for the delay and any inconvenience this may cause.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek Z
iStockphoto
Client Relations
Toll-free 1-866-478-6251
Ph: 403-265-3062
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each time I see this thread pop to the top I think .. ahhh the earnings have finally been posted. not so.
+1 ;D
Me Too.
I'll wait until the 16th and then start wondering. I'm hoping that they catch both months at the same time and clear this up.
Yes, just another false alarm! :)
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Hey anyone... I haven't been keeping up with this thread or Stinkstock... maybe one of you can tell me the answer. Can I still just close out the StockXpert/TS account no matter how much is in the hole? I think I've sold maybe a 1/2 dozen pix since they moved me over. My IS stuff doesn't show there and what they took from StockXpert are probably my worst images... in fact, I wouldn't have the cojones to upload them anywhere anymore. LOL 8)=tom
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It looks like some poor employee has to manually count every image sale, they do not trust computers anymore :-)
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It looks like some poor employee has to manually count every image sale, they do not trust computers anymore :-)
must be that.. I am really curious to see the results after that massive downloads..
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Hey anyone... I haven't been keeping up with this thread or Stinkstock... maybe one of you can tell me the answer. Can I still just close out the StockXpert/TS account no matter how much is in the hole? I think I've sold maybe a 1/2 dozen pix since they moved me over. My IS stuff doesn't show there and what they took from StockXpert are probably my worst images... in fact, I wouldn't have the cojones to upload them anywhere anymore. LOL 8)=tom
I used to know the answer to this, but they have hosed it all up so much about the only I can say is ask contributor relations at IS. (good luck with that). I don't even know if you can go to the StockXpert site, delete your images, and then close the account. When StockXpert was first bought, I deleted my images and then asked for my account to be closed, but that was then, this is now. Sorry I'm not much help. I wanted to acknowledge your question though. Maybe someone else will jump in with a better answer.
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I keep questioning myself regarding big companies or whatever.. why the heck they are so incompetent.. if it was my business sure I would have fired all staff and bring some new blood or change all actually lol perhaps..
how is this possible.. more than 2 month to pay some cheap royalties??
thatīs why low corners will born everyday
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I keep questioning myself regarding big companies or whatever.. why the heck they are so incompetent.. if it was my business sure I would have fired all staff and bring some new blood or change all actually lol perhaps..
how is this possible.. more than 2 month to pay some cheap royalties??
thatīs why low corners will born everyday
They are inflating their cash position ... no other explanation - they are being sold. It might be small cash for the individual contributor but it is not small cash all together. This is not incompetence - this is a sale. All of their actions/decision need to be seen through that lens.
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Thinkstock is an abomination that I hope and pray fails, and fails big time. If Thinkstock succeeds it will be yet another nail in the coffin of microstock. Do yourself and the microstock industry a big favor and delete all of your images from the site. If you continue to tolerate this type of treatment, you send Getty the message that it's OK, and things will just continue to get worse as time goes by.
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They are inflating their cash position ... no other explanation - they are being sold. It might be small cash for the individual contributor but it is not small cash all together. This is not incompetence - this is a sale. All of their actions/decision need to be seen through that lens.
So many signs are pointing to a current or eminent sale, that you are almost certainly right about this. New owners are bound to feel hoodwinked when they realize that some of the money on the balance sheets is actually owned to contributors. I wonder how long it would take them to sort through the mess on the various sites and get everyone paid that is supposed to be paid.
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I got an email today from Darek and he told me, maybe sometime next week.
Lets keep fingers cross.
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I got an email today from Darek and he told me, maybe sometime next week.
Lets keep fingers cross.
LOL.. I guess IS is really losing the sense of business, they do this to their customers??
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Probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash from unpaid sales sitting there earning a few percent interest means a major incentive to not pay us as long as they can....I want my money with interest even if only a few extra cents, i never gave permission for my earnings to be used in this way. I would love to close my thinkstock account but there is no way to close it through I stock without closing all the other partner sites. I really wish we could check off sites separately. This is bordering on criminal action/theft. we have been told we'll get paid the 10th day after the end of every month, then we were told this would be resolved by early Jan, then we are being told in a few days, and now apparently we are being told maybe next week. This is a dangerous and highly illegal game they are playing! I can't imagine anyone keeping there images on the shadey scam of a website Thinkstock for the lousy $7 a month they earn. I want my money NOW! This is no longer about the tiny amount of money we earn from Thinkstock it is about not setting a precedent that we are willing to just roll over and allow this behavior because you can be sure other sites will follow suit when they find out we don't make a peep when our images are sold for 25cents and then we don't even see that money. How far will you allow them to screw you, perhaps they should lower it to 10 cents or just make them free since we are not getting paid anyway!
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How far will you allow them to screw you, perhaps they should lower it to 10 cents or just make them free since we are not getting paid anyway!
Well for many of us TS was already a step too far. That's why so many people never opted in to it.
So what if you opt out of the PP at Istock? Big loss. Isn't it just TS and Photos.com? What do you think you would be missing?
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How far will you allow them to screw you, perhaps they should lower it to 10 cents or just make them free since we are not getting paid anyway!
Well for many of us TS was already a step too far. That's why so many people never opted in to it.
So what if you opt out of the PP at Istock? Big loss. Isn't it just TS and Photos.com? What do you think you would be missing?
30% of my small income at IS is made there
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Thinkstock is an abomination that I hope and pray fails, and fails big time. If Thinkstock succeeds it will be yet another nail in the coffin of microstock. Do yourself and the microstock industry a big favor and delete all of your images from the site. If you continue to tolerate this type of treatment, you send Getty the message that it's OK, and things will just continue to get worse as time goes by.
Rather than answer the long rant from someone else about interest and our money, which is a pittance, I will make an effort to explain a couple of things.
When you sell a business the money owed is not considered assets, it doesn't help their position at all.
It's against the law to collect interest or invest money that is owed for commissions, so they make nothing on what they hold.
Anything that Getty is holding or not paying for a month, isn't doing them any good, in fact it's a liability. It's debt!
Maybe some other people think that this incompetence is a conspiracy, I think it's just a farce and having a lack of resources to handle the needs. Now there's a way to save money, low payroll, short staff. ::)
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Thinkstock is an abomination that I hope and pray fails, and fails big time. If Thinkstock succeeds it will be yet another nail in the coffin of microstock. Do yourself and the microstock industry a big favor and delete all of your images from the site. If you continue to tolerate this type of treatment, you send Getty the message that it's OK, and things will just continue to get worse as time goes by.
Rather than answer the long rant from someone else about interest and our money, which is a pittance, I will make an effort to explain a couple of things.
When you sell a business the money owed is not considered assets, it doesn't help their position at all.
It's against the law to collect interest or invest money that is owed for commissions, so they make nothing on what they gold.
Anything that Getty is holding or not paying for a month, isn't doing them any good, in fact it's a liability. nIt's debt!
Maybe some other people think that this incompetence is a conspiracy, I think it's just a farce and having a lack of resources to handle the needs. Now there's a way to save money, low payroll, short staff. ::)
and what a business :)
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Rather than answer the long rant from someone else about interest and our money, which is a pittance, I will make an effort to explain a couple of things.
When you sell a business the money owed is not considered assets, it doesn't help their position at all.
It's against the law to collect interest or invest money that is owed for commissions, so they make nothing on what they gold.
Anything that Getty is holding or not paying for a month, isn't doing them any good, in fact it's a liability. nIt's debt!
Maybe some other people think that this incompetence is a conspiracy, I think it's just a farce and having a lack of resources to handle the needs. Now there's a way to save money, low payroll, short staff. ::)
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This tells only half the story and you know it - how a company can structure its working capital, the liquidity of its assets, the ability to generate interest income, etc are all hugely relevant - of course a buyer in doing its due dligence will be aware of liabilities on the books but it is hugely relevant how those liabilities are structured.
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Rather than answer the long rant from someone else about interest and our money, which is a pittance, I will make an effort to explain a couple of things.
When you sell a business the money owed is not considered assets, it doesn't help their position at all.
It's against the law to collect interest or invest money that is owed for commissions, so they make nothing on what they gold.
Anything that Getty is holding or not paying for a month, isn't doing them any good, in fact it's a liability. nIt's debt!
Maybe some other people think that this incompetence is a conspiracy, I think it's just a farce and having a lack of resources to handle the needs. Now there's a way to save money, low payroll, short staff. ::)
This tells only half the story and you know it - how a company can structure its working capital, the liquidity of its assets, the ability to generate interest income, etc are all hugely relevant - of course a buyer in doing its due dligence will be aware of liabilities on the books but it is hugely relevant how those liabilities are structured.
Does the due diligence also include discovering that they are being run by incompetents and under staffed? :D
The point is, that people claim that Getty is making money on interest with our money. They are not, it's illegal. The money they owe is a debt liability not and asset. You can double talk all you want about structuring working capitol, which owed commission is not. Owed money is not liquid it's held and not useful for investment or other purposes. (not legally) What they owe is not helping them look better, for a sale, it's working against them.
Too bad we don't have another thread for this, because some people who earn from ThinkStock and StockXpert would like to know that earnings were actually posted, not just that someone else who doesn't have an account and doesn't sell there, is railing against Getty again. Maybe there should be an "Why I hate Getty" forum, so the rest of the message threads can get on with communication about some other topics?
Why does almost every thread in any topic, no matter the subject, turn into a Hate Getty and IS thread? :(
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The point is, that people claim that Getty is making money on interest with our money. They are not, it's illegal.
Sorry but this is simply not true - but never mind it's not important - it would just be nice if they could get it together enough to run the site properly - all the changes, and the loss of revenue for contributors, become even harder to take when the "service" they provide keeps getting worse and worse ...
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The point is, that people claim that Getty is making money on interest with our money. They are not, it's illegal.
Sorry but this is simply not true - but never mind it's not important - it would just be nice if they could get it together enough to run the site properly - all the changes, and the loss of revenue for contributors, become even harder to take when the "service" they provide keeps getting worse and worse ...
Now you're talking! We can agree on all of that.
I don't even know why there is a StockXpert site anymore. Oh wait yes I do. Some people have images up there and never got past the first QC on IS. Must be some real hot property. LOL
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Why does almost every thread in any topic, no matter the subject, turn into a Hate Getty and IS thread? :(
I can answer that, from my point of view anyway. Because some of us started in micro way back, almost at the same time IS did. For some of us, IS has been our main source of microstock income for those years. And now, because of a combination of greed and whatever else, that income is going away. For some of us, it is first and foremost in our minds. These topics and thoughts and commiserations can't be shared anywhere else. It's a little like meeting your co-workers at the bar after work at the end of the day and talking about the stupidity of management.
It helps to know that others are in the same boat, and it helps to hear what others are doing to remedy the situation, and it also helps to learn what is happening here, because I for one don't spend much time in the IS forums and I don't want to have to wade through all the various threads to try to find the important information.
I have noticed PLENTY of other threads being generated, sometimes to the point of being of no particular use whatsoever. Like Seinfeld is a show about nothing, some of the threads being generated are basically threads about nothing. Their only purpose seems to be that of knocking down the IS threads to the bottom of the q. And I am certain that is happening because there ARE some people who will still make good money at IS and they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. For some (lots) of us, the damage is done, we will no longer have that source of income, and we stand to lose very little (at this point) by biting the hand. People are doing things to make up the difference in that loss of IS income, but it still helps to bitch and moan until it is time for each individual to move on. When that happens, they (we) will. In their (our) own time, not when you tell them (us) to.
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I don't even know why there is a StockXpert site anymore. Oh wait yes I do. Some people have images up there and never got past the first QC on IS. Must be some real hot property. LOL
The snark is misapplied. There's an excellent reason why I (and others) have images on StockXpert that aren't on iStock: upload quotas. I have (or had; I'm slowly removing them) plenty of images on StockXpert that iStock might have accepted if I had enough upload slots, or if they weren't so pissy about the specific content of old releases. Point is that I have thousands of images iStock never saw and now never will.
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I don't even know why there is a StockXpert site anymore. Oh wait yes I do. Some people have images up there and never got past the first QC on IS. Must be some real hot property. LOL
The snark is misapplied. There's an excellent reason why I (and others) have images on StockXpert that aren't on iStock: upload quotas. I have (or had; I'm slowly removing them) plenty of images on StockXpert that iStock might have accepted if I had enough upload slots, or if they weren't so pissy about the specific content of old releases. Point is that I have thousands of images iStock never saw and now never will.
It wasn't about that, as I also have images on StockXpert that never got accepted on any other agency. The question was why is there a StockXpert at all? The images are on ThinkStock now and people could be paid on IS. But the answer is, some people never got past the first review on IS, so there would be no way to pay them. StockXpert only exists to pay a small number of people, and has no other purpose at this time. It doesn't have acces, doesn't make sales, we can't upload, so it's more of a place marker and account holder, nothing else.
You have an IS account, they could pay you through that. Right? Me too.
So all that leaves is people who don't have an IS account, or couldn't get one. Maybe they will create new accounts without uploading priveldges, which is in effect, the same as an StockXpert account right now. :D
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Forgive me if I missed it somewhere.... I haven't been around too much lately (but I'm back now). ... my question is... why the flying frog can't I get my Stinkstock money bounced over to my IS account and then I can close the "place holder" StockXpert account? Better yet, give me my stinken money from the old StockXpert and one-image-a-year TS account, and I'll close the StockXpert account and free up room on my hard drive (yuk yuk)... Makes no sense... if an StockXpert contributor already had an IS account, what was the need to keep them on StockXpert? Just send the sales to IS...... glad I make my photo money free lancing..
stock is becoming a bigger hassle than it's worth. 8)=tom
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It has been two months. Has anyone seen anything about "annual payouts?" >:(
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It has been two months. Has anyone seen anything about "annual payouts?" >:(
Shhhhh! Don't give them an funny ideas :P
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I got an email today from Darek and he told me, maybe sometime next week.
Lets keep fingers cross.
guess not, getty, is, whatever ROCKS!
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It has been two months. Has anyone seen anything about "annual payouts?" >:(
Do they have Annual Payouts on StockXpert? That was Veer and Snap Village that sent out the money at the end of the year, no matter what I had earned.
Or... did I totally misunderstand your question?
StockXpert is $50 to cash out and I don't recall anything about an Annual Payout.
By the way December PP sales are showing on IS now. Last payment showing for me on StockXpert is Nov. 16th 2010. Payments on both usually trail sales by around a month.
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It has been two months. Has anyone seen anything about "annual payouts?" >:(
Do they have Annual Payouts on StockXpert? That was Veer and Snap Village that sent out the money at the end of the year, no matter what I had earned.
Or... did I totally misunderstand your question?
StockXpert is $50 to cash out and I don't recall anything about an Annual Payout.
By the way December PP sales are showing on IS now. Last payment showing for me on StockXpert is Nov. 16th 2010. Payments on both usually trail sales by around a month.
Sorry, Race, I was being sarcastic.
Not a good idea in a two-dimensional world. :P
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It has been two months. Has anyone seen anything about "annual payouts?" >:(
Do they have Annual Payouts on StockXpert? That was Veer and Snap Village that sent out the money at the end of the year, no matter what I had earned.
Or... did I totally misunderstand your question?
StockXpert is $50 to cash out and I don't recall anything about an Annual Payout.
By the way December PP sales are showing on IS now. Last payment showing for me on StockXpert is Nov. 16th 2010. Payments on both usually trail sales by around a month.
Sorry, Race, I was being sarcastic.
Not a good idea in a two-dimensional world. :P
This thread is a mess, why not me too? LOL
When they finally do pay us, I suppose it would be good to have a new thread, since this one has become a catch-all for everything and anything.
As far as "annual payout" from my viewpoint, it will be the first and only payout when I get the first one, which should be the last one. I'm holding on for "all that money" I've earned in three years with StockXpert/ThinkStock. :-[
No effort since I'm not uploading, not doing anything but letting them ride. I predict at the current rate I'll cash out in 2011. With StockXpert it would have been 2012, so believe it or not, ThinkStock has boosted my sales. That's very, very, sad.
CrapStock lives...
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honesty I donīt believe in this.. how can this be possible? and why?
StockXpert was bought by IS (Getty whatever).. why were Nov and these days Dec 10 sales (Partner Program) been payed.. and StockXpert is forgotten?? donīt get why.. what the heck is going on??
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honesty I donīt believe in this.. how can this be possible? and why?
StockXpert was bought by IS (Getty whatever).. why were Nov and these days Dec 10 sales (Partner Program) been payed.. and StockXpert is forgotten?? donīt get why.. what the heck is going on??
You've got it. StockXpert is a mess, a month behind (or more) and IS has paid for the same period. Buy hey, this is MicroStock, where anything can happen and it does!
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honesty I donīt believe in this.. how can this be possible? and why?
StockXpert was bought by IS (Getty whatever).. why were Nov and these days Dec 10 sales (Partner Program) been payed.. and StockXpert is forgotten?? donīt get why.. what the heck is going on??
You've got it. StockXpert is a mess, a month behind (or more) and IS has paid for the same period. Buy hey, this is MicroStock, where anything can happen and it does!
I agree but I donīt get why StockXpert is a mess.. it shouldnīt, what have they changed?? how hard is to check sales for contributors?? but I can tell you that PP this month is going the same way, 2 sales today 2 saler the day after donīt understand how hard is to click distribute sales and END of story.. they just donīt care ok but if they donīt why not ending it once for all? if it is giving them money why not been honest and professional!
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Money is starting to trickle in @ Thinkstock. So far it's only January's PPD earnings, but at least it's something! :P
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I saw a few earnings in my account yesterday... today they are gone again :S
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I saw a few earnings in my account yesterday... today they are gone again :S
The same happened to me! This is unbelievable!
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nothing here
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This is ridiculous. It's the end of January and we are still waiting for December's earnings...
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for December earnings? What about November 2010? ;)
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for December earnings? What about November 2010? ;)
Yep... December and November and January .... pretty soon.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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for December earnings? What about November 2010? ;)
Yep... December and November and January .... pretty soon.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
+1
Frankly, I think it would be more than appropriate to collectively contact Joy Griffith (Senior Director, Client & Contributor Relations at iStockphoto; [email protected])...
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for December earnings? What about November 2010? ;)
Yep... December and November and January .... pretty soon.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
+1
Frankly, I think it would be more than appropriate to collectively contact Joy Griffith (Senior Director, Client & Contributor Relations at iStockphoto; [email protected])...
Good idea. My email has been sent.
Why can't we get a report on our Thinkstock sales? I have heard for too long that there is a software problem. That hasn't stopped iStock/Thinkstock from getting paid. We NEED our money. Or, at least a report of how many images are being sold at Thinkstock.
Respectfully,
Warren Price
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Wow...unbelievable...mine are gone, too! >:(
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from Dec sales at PP they werenīt removed, actually entering this second..
regarding Nov sales from StockXpert again problems and more problems.. jeez, it is unacceptable
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Frankly, I think it would be more than appropriate to collectively contact Joy Griffith (Senior Director, Client & Contributor Relations at iStockphoto; [email protected])...
Good idea. My email has been sent.
Thanks Warren -- and mine as well. IMO, it's the only way to get things back to normal.
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sent an email also, perhaps we can flood this person with emails..someone needs to take on this project...I really am starting to think we have been scammed and are never going to see our cash.
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I also sent one on Friday, but haven't heard anything back yet.
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Who knows if they site mail is in function too ;D
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Stockxpert starts displaying some earnings
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I see some change but, with three months of pending sales, it is almost impossible to tell what is being posted?
Surely there will be more?
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I have no idea how to make sense of the sales that are coming in on Stockxpert. It seems they are updating real time now? I am still missing sales from Nov.1-January31 (three full months) I am showing $2 in sales for what looks like sales for one day, today, better not be $2 for three months as I know I made a lot more than than. I really wish there was some admin-type person from getty or istock or thinkstock or stockxpert (or whoever is running the show) who could post here and explain to us what is going on. So frustraing!
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I see todays-earnings also, but the pictures who should have sold looks more like pictures from last year....there're halloween and Christmas related pictures in the bunch.
...and nobody should try to tell me that this is the whole earning since November...but i expect this is what thinkstock think to tell us.
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All sales are reported as one day, so those showing may well be last year's sales.
But I see about one third of expected earnings for november only. Plus, there should be december at least. January, it's too early probably. So I strongly hope more will show.
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I have like 5x less what I expected once it was a repetition of 14.. so or they pay them or then there is a problem..
getting tired...
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$2.50...I sure hope that's not it...did anyone get a reply from Joy?
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Hello Luis,
Thank you very much for your email.
The sales posted on February 2 are the November sales. You had 20 files sold.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
this isnīt true, XP, IS, Getty is cheating on us.. what can we do??
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$2.50...I sure hope that's not it...did anyone get a reply from Joy?
never got a reply from joy! I know I had more than 8 sales in november we could see how many sales we had for a day when that repetition thing happened! This is not just outrageous anymore, it has now become criminal! They have simply just stolen our money.
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$2.50...I sure hope that's not it...did anyone get a reply from Joy?
never got a reply from joy! I know I had more than 8 sales in november we could see how many sales we had for a day when that repetition thing happened! This is not just outrageous anymore, it has now become criminal! They have simply just stolen our money.
RIGHT! stolen big time..
Hello Luis,
You did not have more sales. The number you were seeing were multiplied many times, in some instances up to 30 times the actual numbers. At this time 20 is the correct number of files sold in November.
Thank you.
Darek
iStockphoto Team
2x less than the usual.. and my numbers (repetition) point to around 100.. AGAIN we are screwed by agencies, will it ever stop??
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2x less than the usual.. and my numbers (repetition) point to around 100.. AGAIN we are screwed by agencies, will it ever stop??
I sold:
380 pictures in august
384 in september
386 in october
and allegedly just 132 in november (and I remember for sure that the actual number - NOT COUNTING REPETITIONS - was much higher and in line with previous months)
Unless more sales will show up later, we are definitely being screwed - and it never happened in such an evident way.
It must be said that in some months sales were reported in two days, so more may actually come. I am not accusing them (for now) but I will watch them closely.
I just sent an email to Joy.
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I remember for sure that the actual number - NOT COUNTING REPETITIONS - was much higher and in line with previous months.
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Same here, three times less than usual...
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2x less than the usual.. and my numbers (repetition) point to around 100.. AGAIN we are screwed by agencies, will it ever stop??
I sold:
380 pictures in august
384 in september
386 in october
and allegedly just 132 in november (and I remember for sure that the actual number - NOT COUNTING REPETITIONS - was much higher and in line with previous months)
Unless more sales will show up later, we are definitely being screwed - and it never happened in such an evident way.
It must be said that in some months sales were reported in two days, so more may actually come. I am not accusing them (for now) but I will watch them closely.
I just sent an email to Joy.
accusing them? come on? 3 months to get the royalties.. they can do whatever they want.. and getting a lot less than previous months?? they arenīt honest thats for sure! IS screws us, then FT, then again IS.. nice job :)
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Ditto! >:( I received $6.75 and had figured around $25 during the repetition period. That's what I normally earn anyway. Something is really wrong.
And I haven't heard a thing from Joy.
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LISTEN UP, now more news lol.. jeez!
Hello Louis,
I just got an update and there are more to be processed - it should be able to see the additional earnings by noon tomorrow. Once this completes, we will process the December payments.
Thanks,
Darek
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seems like us being attentive helps :)
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I don't understand why they don't just script it to post sales live like all the other sites.
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LISTEN UP, now more news lol.. jeez!
Hello Louis,
I just got an update and there are more to be processed - it should be able to see the additional earnings by noon tomorrow. Once this completes, we will process the December payments.
Thanks,
Darek
I'm speechless. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/Smileys/classic/myword.gif)
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I always get about 30-50$ per month, now I see only 7$ for all month :O
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I always get about 30-50$ per month, now I see only 7$ for all month :O
It was not all month. See second response from support to Luis above.
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I got an updated payment this morning. Not sure if it is still from November or December earnings (my initial payment seemed correct for November).
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Mine does not. I have had two updates, I think, and there still is utter confusion.
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Yeah, something still seems a bit off. I see a suspicious amount of repeat purchases in the two payouts I have gotten. They are popular files on other sites, but it seems odd since I never got repeat purchases from ThinkStock before...
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From my analysis of the repeated sales blunder data from December, I'd say the current balance likely reflects my November sales. Now I only have to wait for December and January...
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From my analysis of the repeated sales blunder data from December, I'd say the current balance likely reflects my November sales. Now I only have to wait for December and January...
WAIT.. they STILL donīt know... LOL
Hello Luis,
This should be it for November subscription sales. I say 'should' as the development team is making sure now that they were entered correctly.
November single image if any and December earnings will follow over the next few days.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Which of these words seems inappropriate:
Professional?
or
Organization?
>:(
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"Checking to see if sales were entered correctly!!!!" If we didn't keep bitching would we have gotten the second payment? No we wouldn't have! We need to keep a very close eye on these guys and if anything happens like the repetition thing again we need to take our own screen shots of the sales before they delete them. They can no longer be trusted to pay us correctly.
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I must be checking my numbers in the wrong place?
I'm using the old StockXpert site. The numbers are confusing but I get even more confused when I read about "single image sales." Where are other contributors seeing that? Should I be checking my royalties at iStock?
Also, noticing that the StockXpert now seems to be offering day-to-day statistics? By selecting February, I can see different numbers for both February 1 and for February 2?
Anyone else notice that?
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"Checking to see if sales were entered correctly!!!!" If we didn't keep bitching would we have gotten the second payment? No we wouldn't have! We need to keep a very close eye on these guys and if anything happens like the repetition thing again we need to take our own screen shots of the sales before they delete them. They can no longer be trusted to pay us correctly.
I've been thinking the same thing...wishing I had made a screen shot so I could make sure everything was right. It looks like everything is okay from what I remember.
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I must be checking my numbers in the wrong place?
I'm using the old StockXpert site. The numbers are confusing but I get even more confused when I read about "single image sales." Where are other contributors seeing that? Should I be checking my royalties at iStock?
Also, noticing that the StockXpert now seems to be offering day-to-day statistics? By selecting February, I can see different numbers for both February 1 and for February 2?
Anyone else notice that?
You're looking in the right place on StockXpert. :) They posted a small batch yesterday, and today a much larger batch was posted, so that's why you're seeing two dates. PPDs were posted a few days ago, but they have since disappeared again.
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I've been thinking the same thing...wishing I had made a screen shot so I could make sure everything was right. It looks like everything is okay from what I remember.
It seems November sales are now correct indeed.
But I am taking screenshots / pdf prints of everything they post now: it's a long way to December and especially January reports, still lots of fun possible.
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I must be checking my numbers in the wrong place?
I'm using the old StockXpert site. The numbers are confusing but I get even more confused when I read about "single image sales." Where are other contributors seeing that? Should I be checking my royalties at iStock?
Also, noticing that the StockXpert now seems to be offering day-to-day statistics? By selecting February, I can see different numbers for both February 1 and for February 2?
Anyone else notice that?
You're looking in the right place on StockXpert. :) They posted a small batch yesterday, and today a much larger batch was posted, so that's why you're seeing two dates. PPDs were posted a few days ago, but they have since disappeared again.
Thanks, Karimala. That creates some sense of satisfaction but not happiness. I had expected a little more.
Also, I did not realize that we could have PPD sales at Thinkstock???
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If you look more closely at the individual images, they've still screwed it up. At least on my image report, it appears that the images that were downloaded in November carried the equivalent of 30 credits each on the reports page. That is, I simply subtract my totals from today from my last report (in November for October sales) and, presto, I have about the same number of images that show 30 downloads and about $7.50 for each download. Pretty good stuff but these results do not carry through to the account summary for actual sales...
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PPD sales are back. Now let's see if they take them away again like they did last week. :D
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I must be checking my numbers in the wrong place?
I'm using the old StockXpert site. The numbers are confusing but I get even more confused when I read about "single image sales." Where are other contributors seeing that? Should I be checking my royalties at iStock?
Also, noticing that the StockXpert now seems to be offering day-to-day statistics? By selecting February, I can see different numbers for both February 1 and for February 2?
Anyone else notice that?
You're looking in the right place on StockXpert. :) They posted a small batch yesterday, and today a much larger batch was posted, so that's why you're seeing two dates. PPDs were posted a few days ago, but they have since disappeared again.
Thanks, Karimala. That creates some sense of satisfaction but not happiness. I had expected a little more.
Also, I did not realize that we could have PPD sales at Thinkstock???
Sure can! They pay out at $6.60.
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Another posting. Mine seems to get smaller 'n smaller ??? :(
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Donīt understand and never will.. You donīt they tell what is Nov, what is Dec? Ok the last one must be December but why no telling?? jeez istockphoto, getty, partners, whatever..
how can we get 100 sales then 20 then 100 then 30 then 110... they are really just .... around!
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Luis,
What you see under February 4, 2011 are your December earnings. Everything is now up to date. December 2010 and January 2011 sections will remain at 0.
Thank you.
Darek
iStockphoto Team
they donīt even know how to express/write :P
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Their communication is not the best possible, but I guess they got it right this time. This is what I understand:
November sales: reported as February 1st + February 2nd
December sales: reported as February 4th
January sales: not reported yet
and December and January sections will remain at 0 because they will report January sales (hopefully) in February
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Their communication is not the best possible, but I guess they got it right this time. This is what I understand:
November sales: reported as February 1st + February 2nd
December sales: reported as February 4th
January sales: not reported yet
and December and January sections will remain at 0 because they will report January sales (hopefully) in February
the problem is that without contacting them we never know and maybe the sales from Feb 2nd wouldnīt have entered..
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Luis,
What you see under February 4, 2011 are your December earnings. Everything is now up to date. December 2010 and January 2011 sections will remain at 0.
Thank you.
Darek
iStockphoto Team
they donīt even know how to express/write :P
No it does not appear that everything is up to date!.....only subscription sales have been posted for me..Pay per download has not been posted yet...I can't imagine I didn't even have one pay per download since november! Stll waiting for all my sales from November to show up. Are other people seeing Pay-per-download earnings yet?
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I guess they were posted, this month havent got any
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I seem to remember something about posting results by the 15th?
Maybe the bug was fixed and they will get back on schedule. We'll know soon... or in a few days.
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Are other people seeing Pay-per-download earnings yet?
Yes. Mine were posted on Feb. 3.
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the problem is that without contacting them we never know and maybe the sales from Feb 2nd wouldnīt have entered..
Just in case, I suppose it would be a good idea to remind them that we expect January sales reported in a timely manner...
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the problem is that without contacting them we never know and maybe the sales from Feb 2nd wouldnīt have entered..
Just in case, I suppose it would be a good idea to remind them that we expect January sales reported in a timely manner...
And also to remind them to pay in time. I asked for a payment on Feb, 2nd and I am still waiting. In addition to their delay in reporting sales, this is annoying.
One of the good things of microstock in general - compared to real world clients - is that they used to pay without having to remind them over and over. But this is not happening anymore lately.
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And also to remind them to pay in time. I asked for a payment on Feb, 2nd and I am still waiting. In addition to their delay in reporting sales, this is annoying.
One of the good things of microstock in general - compared to real world clients - is that they used to pay without having to remind them over and over. But this is not happening anymore lately.
And your are going to wait a little longer... Why? Because of this little gem hidden on page 12 of this thread:
Got this late this afternoon:
"... Starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and wish you all a peaceful time during this festive season.
Thank you.
The StockXpert Team."
But it ain't money -or its timely delivery - that's making us happy, is it? ::) ;)
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And also to remind them to pay in time. I asked for a payment on Feb, 2nd and I am still waiting. In addition to their delay in reporting sales, this is annoying.
One of the good things of microstock in general - compared to real world clients - is that they used to pay without having to remind them over and over. But this is not happening anymore lately.
And your are going to wait a little longer... Why? Because of this little gem hidden on page 12 of this thread:
Got this late this afternoon:
"... Starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and wish you all a peaceful time during this festive season.
Thank you.
The StockXpert Team."
But it ain't money -or its timely delivery - that's making us happy, is it? ::) ;)
This plain pisses me off. I have Dec and Jan still pending. "It's my money and I want it NOW!" to coin a TV commercial.
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And your are going to wait a little longer... Why? Because of this little gem hidden on page 12 of this thread:
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But it ain't money -or its timely delivery - that's making us happy, is it? ::) ;)
Thanks, I missed that one.
I feel sorry for them: they must be very unhappy with all the money they are holding for us for such a long time.
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And your are going to wait a little longer... Why? Because of this little gem hidden on page 12 of this thread:
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But it ain't money -or its timely delivery - that's making us happy, is it? ::) ;)
Thanks, I missed that one.
I feel sorry for them: they must be very unhappy with all the money they are holding for us for such a long time.
I missed that too but thought I had seen another post pledging to have monthly results posted before the 15th of each month. It's after the 15th. I don't see any January results. Maybe I was wrong?
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I missed that too but thought I had seen another post pledging to have monthly results posted before the 15th of each month. It's after the 15th. I don't see any January results. Maybe I was wrong?
Your were wrong in believing anything they said ;)
But I'm sure, they are sorry as heck and working night and day to resolve the problem... And if you believe that, maybe you'd be interested in this nice bridge I have for sale here? ;D
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Ask, and thou shall receive ;D
My StockXpert earnings for January were just posted...
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Mine too but my payment request is still pending >:(
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Ask, and thou shall receive ;D
Wow that was quick :D . Now I just got my payment too.
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I received my payment right now too. And also january sales reported.
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So Sad. I lost the LOTTO and got my sales results on the same day. ::)
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SWEET!!! ;D AND PAYMENTS HAVE GONE OUT TO PAYPAL, TOO!!!
Not sure why I'm shouting with joy, because seriously...it about darn time they cleared up the books.
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ditto, nice to see Feb earnings posted in a timely manner.
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nice to see Feb earnings posted in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, the same is not valid for payments, at least via Moneybookers.
Although, according to them, "starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month", my payment is still pending since Feb 17... Just disgusting (to say the least)!
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nice to see Feb earnings posted in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, the same is not valid for payments, at least via Moneybookers.
Although, according to them, "starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month", my payment is still pending since Feb 17... Just disgusting (to say the least)!
You lost me there. The 25th is the last Friday of the month, not the 17th, how is your payment pending since the middle of the month, when it's not due until the end of the month. What did I miss in this?
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nice to see Feb earnings posted in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, the same is not valid for payments, at least via Moneybookers.
Although, according to them, "starting in 2011, payment requests will be processed once a month, on the last Friday of each month", my payment is still pending since Feb 17... Just disgusting (to say the least)!
A new gem in response to payment reminders:
"Payments are now processed on the last business day (sic!) of the month. You should receive your payment on or shortly after (sic!) February 28th, 2011."
Meanwhile, StockXpert site still states 3-day payment processing period... ::)
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My images stat still shows enormous quanitity of sales on Stockxpert...
Could you check yours...?
57564821 Bottle cap photo image approved 189 / 190 / $47.25
31775021 Expressing of Buddha photo image approved 10 / 83 / $32.40
57323721 Constipation photo image approved 95 / 110 / $23.75
57160731 Three kings photo image approved 93 / 105 / $23.25
49598891 Spider's net photo image approved 45 / 66 / $12.10
39852541 Continental sunset photo image approved 35 / 125 / $11.15
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This is much more what my balance is....
Is that still there from last "multiple error sales" or what?
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Noticed that my February earnings are in. yay.
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Noticed that my February earnings are in. yay.
thanks for the heads up
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did they say raise the money to 0.28 a sale ??but i still got 0.25 a sale in FEB ???
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did they say raise the money to 0.28 a sale ??but i still got 0.25 a sale in FEB ???
Hmmmmm... excellent point. My earnings don't seem to be divisable by 28? ??? :P
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did they say raise the money to 0.28 a sale ??but i still got 0.25 a sale in FEB ???
Hmmmmm... excellent point. My earnings don't seem to be divisable by 28? ??? :P
Just a guess?
We're back to that same confusing game where things that happen on IS are not the same as things that happen on StockXpert. I don't remember any raise announced, from ThinkStock for StockXpert images. But that's OK I don't remember as much as I used to? ;)
Only one I saw was that IS raised the commission for ThinkStock subs to 28c.
I did notice that all my sales on StockXpert were L and 25 cents. Now they are selling the same images as I have on IS, and not the StockXpert exclusives. Might be time to pull the plug since everything is the same and I'll get a whole 3 cents more! (or maybe not?)
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I see earnings for March, or am I the one confused now and that's Feb?
Here's an interesting quote from the past. 2006 5+ years ago.
shutterstock just upped the anty and is now giving out 25 cents per download. That is quite a significant raise as it is 25% for those who were earning 20cents before. The submitters who joined shutterstock in the early game were allready earning 23cents per download, so their raise is really only 2 cents or 8.5%.. either way it is great news.
Funny that people were working for 20c a download and happy to get a raise to 23c a download. The top people were getting a whole 25c! :D
Also September, 2006. SS hits 1 million files online!
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did they say raise the money to 0.28 a sale ??but i still got 0.25 a sale in FEB ???
Hmmmmm... excellent point. My earnings don't seem to be divisable by 28? ??? :P
No one ever said the former StockXpert (i.e. Hemera collection) will go to 0.28.
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Meanwhile, StockXpert site still states 3-day payment processing period... ::)
Good old times. I wrote that text 6(!) years ago... :)
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Thank you very much for your email.
The sire is not being hacked. There appears to be a problem with the royalties payment cycle; they are being added over and over. We will have this corrected as soon as possible. No one is stealing your images either.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Thank you very much for your email.
The sire is not being hacked. There appears to be a problem with the royalties payment cycle; they are being added over and over. We will have this corrected as soon as possible. No one is stealing your images either.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
thanks for the update Darek!
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thank you so much, was getting concerned! LOL
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Obviously, this is just a cheap and dirty way to postpone payments one more time.
IMO, it would be more than appropriate to collectively contact Joy Griffith (Senior Director, Client & Contributor Relations at iStockphoto; [email protected]) again, demanding a clear answer on when we might expect the March earnings posted.
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Obviously, this is just a cheap and dirty way to postpone payments one more time.
IMO, it would be more than appropriate to collectively contact Joy Griffith (Senior Director, Client & Contributor Relations at iStockphoto; [email protected]) again, demanding a clear answer on when we might expect the March earnings posted.
Demand all you want, but I don't think you are ever going to get a clear answer. They haven't given clear answers for the past year or so, they aren't going to start now.
I am amazed at how many contributors are still expecting something more from this company after all this time. Every time they do something incredibly stupid contributors say "wow, this is stupid. I'll give them one more shot then I'm gone." That was about 20 shots ago.
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Well here we are seven days later and nothing yet...not even an email. I'm a Data Security Administrator in an IT department, if we treated our users this way someone would have been fired by now! The sad part of this is that it's a re-occurring issue...
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Well here we are seven days later and nothing yet...not even an email. I'm a Data Security Administrator in an IT department, if we treated our users this way someone would have been fired by now! The sad part of this is that it's a re-occurring issue...
iStock operates in its own little universe that has its own natural forces and laws.
Nothing as we know it applies to iStock, hence the confusion. ::)
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Hello Luis,
Thank you very much for your email.
The site will be back up within the next few days.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please let us know if you require further assistance.
Regards,
Darek
iStockphoto Team
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Looks like they are posted again.
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Eh, They posted new earnings for may but it seams to be reduced by factor 3x from previous months?!
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Eh, They posted new earnings for may but it seams to be reduced by factor 3x from previous months?!
YEP! same here
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More sales posted tonight. Now my total earnings are in line with previous months.
PS: I have a payment pending since April, 28th. Has anyone been paid after the last accounting issue?
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My sales were 3/4 what they were last month, but on par with Feb earnings.
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mine's about the same as previous months, pretty consistent lately.
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More sales posted tonight. Now my total earnings are in line with previous months.
PS: I have a payment pending since April, 28th. Has anyone been paid after the last accounting issue?
always nice to see a few more now in line with previous month, but why canīt they post them all at the same time, stock is like watching a thriller! ;D
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What a morons. They posted results yesterday, then added another batch today and guess what? Yesterday's batch disappeared. I do not even trust that they really post right numbers.
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What a morons. They posted results yesterday, then added another batch today and guess what? Yesterday's batch disappeared. I do not even trust that they really post right numbers.
I sure wouldn't.
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What a morons. They posted results yesterday, then added another batch today and guess what? Yesterday's batch disappeared. I do not even trust that they really post right numbers.
they donīt have respect for anybody, now this is every month.. how is this possible? now we got only today sales.. LOLOL
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Eh, They posted new earnings for may but it seams to be reduced by factor 3x from previous months?!
+1
I always get about 30-40$ per month, now I see only 10$...
IMNSHO, it's time to drop a kind line or two again -- just to express our profound gratitude to Joy and Darek. ;)
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same here. this unlimited incompetence is really alarming.
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What a morons. They posted results yesterday, then added another batch today and guess what? Yesterday's batch disappeared. I do not even trust that they really post right numbers.
This is getting so old. My first batch is gone, too, right along with all the earnings. >:( >:( >:(
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It seems like we have to start making screenshots and keep bugging them for explanation or even try to file complaint in organizations like BBB every month.
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same for me - less then half of what I had last month.
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Same here ... Thinkstock giveth and Thinkstock taketh away. :-\
And, what's even worse ... Even with the mysterious loss, Thinkstock is selling 3X what I'm getting from Bigstock. :-[ >:( 8)
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and I think it is more a question about trust - they want us to trust? Nearly impossible!
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what I donīt understand is why they are doing this?..
they just wanted to buy XP and let "files" sink and managed them like crap?
great job overall :)
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anybody contact them regarding this last "bug"?
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anybody contact them regarding this last "bug"?
No, only because I didn't grab a screen capture. Definitely will be doing that from now on!
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anybody contact them regarding this last "bug"?
No, only because I didn't grab a screen capture. Definitely will be doing that from now on!
I used to take a screenshot of their usual bug (repeated sales) - but they took us by surprise with this new bug. Microstock is never boring.
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I have contacted them too many times and I am getting used to it so if they want to keep like this, dont care
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And now the entire month's earnings are gone again.
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And now the entire month's earnings are gone again.
yep ;D
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I wonder if this amateurish ineptitude is as evident to buyers? Would you trust these people to bill you for anything? >:(
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a few more sales, very close to last month
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Yeah. I got 25 more cents than I had before the sales disappeared. Well worth the wait!
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This time I took screen shot :-)
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I have the same amount I started off with earlier this month before they took it away and replaced it with a smaller amount. Man, I wish they'd get their act together!
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I'm missing sales or the last 10 days of the month. I know it's not accurate cos I get 30-40 sales a day then zero for the last 10 days.
Poor
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I have the same amount of sales and money of last month... Do somebody else sees the same?
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I'm missing sales or the last 10 days of the month. I know it's not accurate cos I get 30-40 sales a day then zero for the last 10 days.
Poor
this topic is regarding StockXpert (Hemera collection) not PP :)
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and I think it is more a question about trust - they want us to trust? Nearly impossible!
This is what has completely been lost for me. I don't trust IS one iota. On TS I have an ever growing port and decreasing sales, especially the last posting of earnings. I simply think that they don't have a reliable data control system and that they could care less whether it's giving contributors complete accuracy or not.....unless it's not in their favor, of course.
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and I think it is more a question about trust - they want us to trust? Nearly impossible!
This is what has completely been lost for me. I don't trust IS one iota. On TS I have an ever growing port and decreasing sales, especially the last posting of earnings. I simply think that they don't have a reliable data control system and that they could care less whether it's giving contributors complete accuracy or not.....unless it's not in their favor, of course.
You have new uploads to StockXpert? How? Everyone else had their uploads frozen last Feb. Or are you also referring to PP from IS, which isn't the question here. This is sites that no longer exist (kind of confusing since it does) :) and sales reported, then removed, then restored, for StockXpert.
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Does anyone know who to contact about payments? It's been two weeks since I submitted mine.