Quote from: DonLand on July 29, 2013, 19:43

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Improved searching options, i.e. search by category AND/OR keyword AND/OR exclusive AND/OR original filename etc, not just by description/title.
Improved sorting options, including being able to see and sort by the original filename.
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these are good features -- when we have 500,000 images -- right now, it's a rare search that comes up with more than 100-200 results

even if you do a 'silly' search like 'beautiful woman' the results are manageable --these are 2 of the most used keywords  with 13,000 and 12,000 results in the global search http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=401
  but the combination gives just 3000 images and eliminating similar you get about 500 with 2500 similar

so even for this extremely broad search the results are reasonable.  the search is getting better, but at this point i'd place it lower on the list of priorities  (right now sym is competitive with SS -- for 'bald soprano', sym gives 0 and SS gives only 1 result!)

You missed the point. This is on the administration side of the site. We need these kind of searches to be able to manage the images. Even with 1000 images it is already unwieldy.

Quote from: cascoly on July 29, 2013, 21:09

Quote from: DonLand on July 29, 2013, 19:43

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Improved searching options, i.e. search by category AND/OR keyword AND/OR exclusive AND/OR original filename etc, not just by description/title.
Improved sorting options, including being able to see and sort by the original filename.
....

these are good features -- when we have 500,000 images -- right now, it's a rare search that comes up with more than 100-200 results

even if you do a 'silly' search like 'beautiful woman' the results are manageable --these are 2 of the most used keywords  with 13,000 and 12,000 results in the global search http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=401
  but the combination gives just 3000 images and eliminating similar you get about 500 with 2500 similar

so even for this extremely broad search the results are reasonable.  the search is getting better, but at this point i'd place it lower on the list of priorities  (right now sym is competitive with SS -- for 'bald soprano', sym gives 0 and SS gives only 1 result!)

You missed the point. This is on the administration side of the site. We need these kind of searches to be able to manage the images. Even with 1000 images it is already unwieldy.

sorry, missed that -- you didn't say admin -- I keep a spreadsheet with all my keywords, captions, etc so it's easily searchable

http://symbiostock-search.com does let you examine all keywords, by frequency, alphabetically, etc across all sites and for specific sites

Quote from: DonLand on July 29, 2013, 21:58

Quote from: cascoly on July 29, 2013, 21:09

Quote from: DonLand on July 29, 2013, 19:43

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Improved searching options, i.e. search by category AND/OR keyword AND/OR exclusive AND/OR original filename etc, not just by description/title.
Improved sorting options, including being able to see and sort by the original filename.
....

these are good features -- when we have 500,000 images -- right now, it's a rare search that comes up with more than 100-200 results

even if you do a 'silly' search like 'beautiful woman' the results are manageable --these are 2 of the most used keywords  with 13,000 and 12,000 results in the global search http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=401
  but the combination gives just 3000 images and eliminating similar you get about 500 with 2500 similar

so even for this extremely broad search the results are reasonable.  the search is getting better, but at this point i'd place it lower on the list of priorities  (right now sym is competitive with SS -- for 'bald soprano', sym gives 0 and SS gives only 1 result!)

You missed the point. This is on the administration side of the site. We need these kind of searches to be able to manage the images. Even with 1000 images it is already unwieldy.

sorry, missed that -- you didn't say admin -- I keep a spreadsheet with all my keywords, captions, etc so it's easily searchable

http://symbiostock-search.com does let you examine all keywords, by frequency, alphabetically, etc across all sites and for specific sites

Actually I did split the suggestion into two parts and even stated it there although I called it the "client side" and the "processing/organization side of things" which I guess I should have simply called the "administration side" instead.

Yes I love that search function!!! Excellent job.

The only thing is it is not what I was suggesting. I need a better way to find files to organize into categories on the administration side. If i search for landscape in the client side of my site I get hundreds of images because I've used the keyword landscape. If I search for it in the administration side I only get 16 because it is only searching the description, unless I'm missing something. If this is included in the Premium site option or a paid plug in I have no problem with either as it is a small price to pay for all of the work involved.

I'd like to see a search option to narrow a search through adding on additional keywords to fine-tune the selection. 

ie:
Start with "Shrimp" - decide the results are too wide-ranging (includes live shrimp, shrimp boats, prepared meals)
Add keyword - "Cooked" (limits results to prepared food, shrimp scampi, shrimp cocktail, etc.)
decide that a pasta dish with shrimp might best suit your need so add the keyword "Pasta"

It would return similar results if you searched Shrimp + Pasta I guess, but it's nice to be able to narrow the search as you go instead of having to get it right the first time, or keep revising the original search.

I'd like to see a search option to narrow a search through adding on additional keywords to fine-tune the selection. 

ie:
Start with "Shrimp" - decide the results are too wide-ranging (includes live shrimp, shrimp boats, prepared meals)
Add keyword - "Cooked" (limits results to prepared food, shrimp scampi, shrimp cocktail, etc.)
decide that a pasta dish with shrimp might best suit your need so add the keyword "Pasta"

It would return similar results if you searched Shrimp + Pasta I guess, but it's nice to be able to narrow the search as you go instead of having to get it right the first time, or keep revising the original search.

 I think we'll have that eventually - right now, there are few enough images that most searches return an array that's quicker to scan rather than refine; as the number and variety of images grows, searching will become more detailed

I am confused, is Leo working on a better search or not? I constantly see contradicting posts, and I have a messed up search because of the limited WP search. As do others. I am waiting for the premium version with a new search. And now you say its not going to be added? Or are we now talking different things?

Leos premium plugin is for your own site. Cascoly is talking about the main search engine.

Actually being tired out of my mind, I think I'm going to release the batch operator by Friday, since I can't seem to push myself any more due to fatigue.

You will like it

Yes, mass price changes are possible with what you have now in the "Author Options" area.

Actually being tired out of my mind, I think I'm going to release the batch operator by Friday, since I can't seem to push myself any more due to fatigue.

You will like it

Yes, mass price changes are possible with what you have now in the "Author Options" area.

Glad to hear about the batch operator!

The problem with changing it in the author area is it appears that it would also change the other settings which I do not want to do. It is preset to be Not Exclusive, Live, 2nd etc and there is no way to turn them to ignore so those setting don't change.

This post expands on the bulk edit and Search/Select mentioned by other members. I also wrote about it in one of the other threads in the General area.

1. It would be nice to have a general purpose selection/change utility. For instance, select all exclusive images, certain categories, or some collections and apply special pricing just to those images.  Excluding some images or narrowing down the previous selection would be also nice.
It would be quite useful to have a flexible selection process (select by all kinds of criteria - keyword, category,date, etc), ideally also nested (narrow-down) selections, and then being able to run the pricing utility just on the selected images.

Keep the selection process totally independent, so the selected images could be used potentially as input also for other processes to be added in the future (zipping, export, resizing, applying a new watermark, adding some keywords, etc).

2. The Change Utility (or even a group of small change programs) would accept a selection list (current selection, saved selection, list of images, etc), interpret a mode parameter (i.e. change prices, add keywords, run a new watermark, add/rewrite Editorial notice, etc).

Utilities like this could be integral part of Symbiostock or added as third-party tools, enhancing the functionality and power of the Symbiostock platform.
 
 

Quote from: LesPalenik on August 17, 2013, 23:46

2. The Change Utility (or even a group of small change programs) would accept a selection list (current selection, saved selection, list of images, etc), interpret a mode parameter (i.e. change prices, add keywords, run a new watermark, add/rewrite Editorial notice, etc).

I agree with all you said, Les. Especially your suggestions in #2.

For ex: How horrible it would be in the current set-up if one of us created a better watermark and wanted to apply it to all images already on a site. As I understand it, right now that would require redoing from scratch every single one of those image pages. A horrible task! But if there were a way to replace the watermark on an entire set of existing images... Sweet!

I'm especially aware of this problem because I struggled to create a watermark at the beginning of my site set-up. I like the design I finally ended up with but need to have it show up better on dark subjects. My current one disappears on those. I may eventually redo and improve it, but will have to reconstruct all the image pages where it's needed. Not a happy thought.

I dont think thats true. All you need to do is upload a new watermark and process all images again. Its a one click process.

............   and if not a one click process you can do it at least 50 at a time

Did you know that on the "All Images" page you can click on screen options and select the number of images you want to be visible, select them, then choose Bulk Actions - Reprocess to reprocess them

Good tip.

I ran into the bulk edit issue yesterday. Wanted to change prices on all a little higher, but have uploaded about 10 exclusive images. I did all, then went back and hand edited the exclusive ones. Worked ok for now, but as the numbers grow, this could be a pain. Which I suppose is why Les is requesting the feature, and I agree.

Did you know that on the "All Images" page you can click on screen options and select the number of images you want to be visible...

Great tip...

Does anybody know if the "Reprocess" will only affect the graphic part of the image (creating the different sizes, applying watermark etc) or will it also change some or all database values (release status, exclusivity, pricing etc)?