Author Topic: Your Veer portfolio on Alamy (Read 22290 times)

RT · « **Reply #300 on:** June 12, 2012, 11:36 »

Quote from: click_click on June 12, 2012, 09:56

Alamy's CEO will NOT like the fact that duplicates are floating around their library, for whatever reason. As soon as this hits the management level I'm 100% sure Alamy will take care of the problem asap, regardless if this is caused by some dodgy partner agreement or whatever.

Have you actually been following this thread at all?

From page 6:

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 21, 2012, 07:02

OFFICIAL ALAMY REPLY:
We do not have a policy to delete duplicates as Alamy is a non exclusive market place.

loop · « **Reply #301 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:03 »

Actually, If I have understood well (and not being affected, bacause I'm not at Veer) that could set a new record: getting about 1 or 2% for a, let's say, 150-200 $ sale!

ShadySue · « **Reply #302 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:07 »

Quote from: click_click on June 12, 2012, 09:56

Alamy's CEO will NOT like the fact that duplicates are floating around their library, for whatever reason. As soon as this hits the management level I'm 100% sure Alamy will take care of the problem asap, regardless if this is caused by some dodgy partner agreement or whatever.

We might think so, but I've seen up to five identicals from different sources at times, i.e. presumably same tog, different 'partners'.

XPTO · « **Reply #303 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:54 »

Quote from: click_click on June 12, 2012, 09:56

I'm not a big shot by all means - however do make a living in micro (living in the US).

Alamy, for me, has taken dump over the course of the last 18 months or so by offering massive discounts "to certain buyers" plus the "usual" distributor sale that leaves us with peanuts micro-style.

I also live exclusively from my micro earnings and in my case I live in Europe. The worst part is that Alamy represents more than 30% of all my income and that's why I'm so worried with this issue.

And yes, the alamy average sale has suffered a huge fall after all the commissions. From 2008 to 2011 there was a drop of more than 70% of my average sale value. From 3 digits to about an EL value on micro.

Not only the sales have fallen but alamy cut the commission form 65 to 60%in 2009.

2011 was the first year my income in alamy dropped despite having about 80% increase in the number of images sold.

Nevertheless alamy shows some respect for their contributors and have given up on some decisions in the past after the discontentment hit their foruns and mailbox. Let's hope they do it in this case.

click_click · « **Reply #304 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:56 »

Quote from: RT on June 12, 2012, 11:36

Have you actually been following this thread at all?
From page 6:
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 21, 2012, 07:02
OFFICIAL ALAMY REPLY:
We do not have a policy to delete duplicates as Alamy is a non exclusive market place.

Thanks RT - I do actually have an issue with MSG's notification emails - I don't receive them anymore for several weeks now (Tyler is informed).

I have a very hard time keeping up with all the threads, believe me.

Well, I cannot force Alamy to remove duplicates but in this instance it borders to insanity to not remove the duplicates. I hope they will come to their senses.

pancaketom · « **Reply #305 on:** June 12, 2012, 13:10 »

Well, Veer at least said they would make things right - which is a lot better than some of the other sites who just say take it or leave it or make up some sort of "unsustainable" BS.

I just checked and I can't find my images on Alamy Creative now - it might be another bug, or maybe they have been removed for real this time.

click_click · « **Reply #306 on:** June 12, 2012, 13:14 »

Actions do speak louder than words...

jsnover · « **Reply #307 on:** June 12, 2012, 14:05 »

Quote from: pancaketom on June 12, 2012, 13:10

I just checked and I can't find my images on Alamy Creative now - it might be another bug, or maybe they have been removed for real this time.

The total hasn't changed, and my images are still there. Were yours using your real name? I can only see your own stuff using your name whereas with mine I have both my own and the "Agencies"

lisafx · « **Reply #308 on:** June 12, 2012, 14:15 »

Quote from: pancaketom on June 12, 2012, 13:10

I just checked and I can't find my images on Alamy Creative now - it might be another bug, or maybe they have been removed for real this time.

Mine are there. When I search under "creative" images they don't show up, but when I search in the regular "images" category under lisafx, the name I use at the micros, there are 74 of them there. My stuff at Alamy is under my actual name.

ETA: In my case, I'm certain they came from Veer because the oldest images in the AC collection are the first five test images I submitted to Veer. I didn't submit those same five first to any other sites.

pancaketom · « **Reply #309 on:** June 12, 2012, 14:29 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 12, 2012, 14:15

Quote from: pancaketom on June 12, 2012, 13:10

I just checked and I can't find my images on Alamy Creative now - it might be another bug, or maybe they have been removed for real this time.

Mine are there. When I search under "creative" images they don't show up, but when I search in the regular "images" category under lisafx, the name I use at the micros, there are 74 of them there. My stuff at Alamy is under my actual name.

Ahh, yes, they aren't under "creative images" anymore but searching "pancaketom" more than before are under the general search... rats.

peresanz · « **Reply #310 on:** June 12, 2012, 15:09 »

Quote from: pancaketom on June 12, 2012, 14:29

Quote from: lisafx on June 12, 2012, 14:15
Quote from: pancaketom on June 12, 2012, 13:10

I just checked and I can't find my images on Alamy Creative now - it might be another bug, or maybe they have been removed for real this time.

Mine are there. When I search under "creative" images they don't show up, but when I search in the regular "images" category under lisafx, the name I use at the micros, there are 74 of them there. My stuff at Alamy is under my actual name.

Ahh, yes, they aren't under "creative images" anymore but searching "pancaketom" more than before are under the general search... rats.

I didn't notice that! I thought that my images where removed from the 'Creativity Images' because they didn't show after searching in this particular set, but now i searched under 'images' and found all my images coming from Veer duplicated along with my existing images on Alamy. Very dirty play, if you ask me...

Phil · « **Reply #311 on:** June 12, 2012, 16:21 »

username is same on both so I searched for "username creativity" and brought up 2621 images

918000+ images, wonder how much they are are making out of this, that's got to be some some serious $

Almost a month since the first more details to come, good to see communication is a priority

Karimala · « **Reply #312 on:** June 12, 2012, 17:08 »

Ugh. Just noticed that Alamy's search is prioritizing all 255 of my Veer images ahead of my 942 Alamy images. I've been pretty patient with this latest agency fiasco, because I'd like to stick with Veer, but this discovery at Alamy has now pushed my anger button.

Paulo M. F. Pires · « **Reply #313 on:** June 12, 2012, 17:54 »

Mine disappear again. I've searched with all options ( creative, non-creative, with my name, my uncle name, etc ).

trek · « **Reply #314 on:** June 12, 2012, 20:28 »

800 of my images with my Veer only name are showing in the "Alamy Images" search... not "Alamy Creative Images". Totally sucks. I was a happy Veer contributor... and believed them when they said they would correct the "Alamy Creative Images" issue. Did they think we wouldn't notice? I would like an explanation from Veer. I do not want to close my Veer account but I will if this duplicity is permanent.

jsnover · « **Reply #315 on:** June 13, 2012, 11:31 »

Total up slightly - now 918,091. Not a big change, but still the wrong direction Veer...

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #316 on:** June 13, 2012, 14:06 »

Just received this from Veer:

"Alamy has informed us that the removal process has begun, but they have told us it may take several weeks to complete.

Regards,
Ryan
Contributor Service"

cclapper · « **Reply #317 on:** June 13, 2012, 14:10 »

Quote from: leeavison on June 13, 2012, 14:06

Just received this from Veer:

"Alamy has informed us that the removal process has begun, but they have told us it may take several weeks to complete.

Regards,
Ryan
Contributor Service"

Hours to upload, weeks to offload?

lisafx · « **Reply #318 on:** June 14, 2012, 17:11 »

Quote from: leeavison on June 13, 2012, 14:06

Just received this from Veer:

"Alamy has informed us that the removal process has begun, but they have told us it may take several weeks to complete.

Regards,
Ryan
Contributor Service"

Interesting. I got the exact same note. Hope they follow through.

jsnover · « **Reply #319 on:** June 14, 2012, 17:34 »

And Brian - or anyone else from Veer - is completely MIA with respect to updates or assurances via the forum. I appreciate that he acknowledged earlier that they'd messed up the communications, but I assumed that meant they were going to change that, not continue with the mushroom management techniques

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #320 on:** June 14, 2012, 17:45 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2012, 17:34

And Brian - or anyone else from Veer - is completely MIA with respect to updates or assurances via the forum. I appreciate that he acknowledged earlier that they'd messed up the communications, but I assumed that meant they were going to change that, not continue with the mushroom management techniques

ShadySue · « **Reply #321 on:** June 14, 2012, 19:31 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2012, 17:34

And Brian - or anyone else from Veer - is completely MIA with respect to updates or assurances via the forum. I appreciate that he acknowledged earlier that they'd messed up the communications, but I assumed that meant they were going to change that, not continue with the mushroom management techniques

A little trick learned from another agency.

jsnover · « **Reply #322 on:** June 14, 2012, 19:48 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 14, 2012, 19:31

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2012, 17:34
And Brian - or anyone else from Veer - is completely MIA with respect to updates or assurances via the forum. I appreciate that he acknowledged earlier that they'd messed up the communications, but I assumed that meant they were going to change that, not continue with the mushroom management techniques
A little trick learned from another agency.

It's a bit like kids - they rarely copy one another's good behaviors, only the reprehensible ones

RT · « **Reply #323 on:** June 15, 2012, 03:59 »

Well I'm pleased to say I'm out of there, my account has been terminated and images removed from Alamy.

NeverSayNever101 · « **Reply #324 on:** June 15, 2012, 06:24 »

Well, well. Looks like Alamy has deleted the pseudonym "Alamy Creativity" and all Veer (& others?) images are now off the site. Unless they've changed the pseudo?! A victory!