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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 02:28 »
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Almost 1 year later since I open the topic with many more videos and still not a single 4K...

They keep selling a lot but downscaled to 1080p.  >:(


« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2018, 08:23 »
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I think it will probably be 2-3 years before 4K really takes off. Same with how HD went (although I think that took about 7-8 years).

So, if you shoot in 4k, you'll be 'prepared' for when it becomes popular.

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2018, 08:46 »
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2018, 03:42 »
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@SuperPhoto

I sell 4K videos with a certain regularity in P5, SS and AS. Videoblocks have NEVER sold a single 4K video in 2 years or more. I have More then 2.100 4K videos in my portfolio...

I don't know what it is, but it sure looks very very strange to me!

« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2018, 04:11 »
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I have sold a couple of 4k clips at VB (a couple of hundred clips in my portfolio there), but it's been more than a year since the last one.

They market to a crowd of buyers that want, and get, unlimited clips for $199. They aren't too keen on paying $199 for a single clip... Which makes perfect sense.

Would you rather buy your own GH5 or get 10 4k clips? In my opinion, pricing ALL 4k clips at $199 in 2018 is beyond ridiculous.

Let's say I need 50 clips for a 4k project. A nice $9,950. I could just buy TWO GH5s, pay someone to fly around and shoot for a week, including nice hotels, and still save money.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 04:24 by increasingdifficulty »

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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2018, 05:41 »
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I have sold a couple of 4k clips at VB (a couple of hundred clips in my portfolio there), but it's been more than a year since the last one.

They market to a crowd of buyers that want, and get, unlimited clips for $199. They aren't too keen on paying $199 for a single clip... Which makes perfect sense.

Would you rather buy your own GH5 or get 10 4k clips? In my opinion, pricing ALL 4k clips at $199 in 2018 is beyond ridiculous.

Let's say I need 50 clips for a 4k project. A nice $9,950. I could just buy TWO GH5s, pay someone to fly around and shoot for a week, including nice hotels, and still save money.

You could shoot and edit 50 high quality 4K clips in a week according to your or your client's needs? I think you're overestimating the amount of work that goes into shooting video. What about lighting conditions, weather, technical difficulties? Timelapses also take longer than expected. I think it would take you at least 3-4 weeks, depending on the subject matter of course.

$9,950 isn't cheap, but keep in mind you'd likely do this for a client (who would pay you for the assignment) or you'd get your investment back some other way.

« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2018, 06:19 »
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In my opinion, pricing ALL 4k clips at $199 in 2018 is beyond ridiculous.

Notice this part in my post?

Keyword: ALL.

My point is that a clip of clouds costs $199, and a clip of a volcanic eruption also costs $199.

No one in their right mind is going to pay $199 for clouds, even if they need clouds. Almost every project uses clouds by the way, as it's one of the most sold subject matters in stock.

But 4k clouds is fixed at $199, so they will simply go somewhere else.

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And of course it would depend on the project whether 50 clips was doable in a week or not. It was an example, as I'm sure you understood.  ;)

I know how long it takes to make an 8-second hyperlapse. I do it all the time. They could sell for $199. I also know that I can make 10 cloud timelapses in a day, and anyone can make them, so they aren't worth more than $40 for 4k.

By the way, $10,000 would be a pretty decent full-time pay for 2 months for most filmers. Let's say 1 month with taxes and expenses. ;)
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 08:34 by increasingdifficulty »

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2018, 08:14 »
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HD still sells better. I sold just a few in 4K. Interesting that I get requests if I got 4K versions of my popular HD clips more and more.

« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2018, 02:03 »
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Finally got my first 4K sale!!! hallelujah

After almost 3 years...

« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2018, 03:20 »
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sold my first 4k clip on May 17 at Storyblocks, 
I have only 100 clips cause I started with footage from december 2017 .
Since december I've sold 7 fullHD clips (not only at Storyblocks),  but a 4K sale for 199$ has been a really nice surprise!

« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2018, 03:55 »
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4K is a myth. 1080 shooting is the only way to go

« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2018, 15:25 »
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I have had perhaps 15 to 20  4k sales on video blocks. in many cases, they were sold in groups, such as 2 or 3 similar videos in 4k res.

« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2018, 09:12 »
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Never sold a 4K at SB.  And the single HD sales are very soft, as I believe, like many of you, that the growth of their member collection is covering many subjects. SB reminds me a "little" of Dissolve. They came in here wanting our work, being very involved in the discussion, and some of us bit, me included.  Now, you never hear from them in here because their end game is coming to fruition.  Every day suppliers like me helped launch their model, now we are a byproduct.

I think uniqueness is the key there. Everyday stuff like traffic time lapses, clouds, ocean waves, etc are well covered subjects; even drone footage, while cool looking, are more and more common.

Stock is more strategic than ever nowadays.  Shoot more unique stuff that is in demand and you can probably progress your income.

« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2018, 12:53 »
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Had two 4Ks last night.  Doesn't happen often, but nice when it does.

« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2018, 14:55 »
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I understand that 4K is "not there yet" for many buyers, who want 1080 instead.  However, I still think 4K is "the future" and will eventually become as mainstream as 1080 is today (anyone here around long enough to remember when SD was the mainstream, and 1080 was "the future"?).

So, the question...  Can you upload two versions of the clip?  One in 4K and one in HD?

Or do the stock agencies automagically reduce the 4K for HD licensing already?  (video is still in my own "future," so I am still learning what will work and what won't)

« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2018, 16:34 »
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most agencies will take the 4k and offer the buyer HD from the 4k for a lower price.

4k is the future, but keep these facts in mind.

once you go over 50mb/s, you are producing video that is of higher quality than almost all forms of use. you will be higher bitrate than DVD, blu ray, satellite tv, cable tv, youtube, etc. so 50mb right now covers you for all uses.

a lot of TV is still SD. however HD is common on laptops, HD still is not universally adopted, even 20 years after introduction.

in the past 20 years, computer displays for most consumers have been near HD or HD. very few people use 4k on their computers. low end computers have problems playing back 4k.

if you film 4k, your videos might still be usable even 20, 30, or 40 or more years from now. filming in 4k is a good idea.

« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2018, 21:44 »
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4K clips also give the buyer more flexibility in an HD edit to re-position or crop the shot without loss in quality.

I think if more buyers would realize that, we'd sell more 4K clips.

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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2018, 06:39 »
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Just had my second ever 4K sale there a couple of days ago.


 

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