Author Topic: YAY Newsletter: Information About New Product (Read 97708 times)

roede-orm · « **Reply #125 on:** September 23, 2013, 11:55 »

Quote from: somethingpretentious on September 23, 2013, 09:16

Yay is aggressively undercutting the market prices with this new streaming service. Yay can spin it anyway they want, but if this is a success, Yay is much more likely to convert paying customers into less paying customers. And to take marketshare from sites where customers pay more.

It is not only an aggressive way, it's actually quite rude against the creators.

sharpshot · « **Reply #126 on:** September 23, 2013, 12:00 »

If the Shutterstock share price is anything to go buy, there's still a lot of growth in the microstock business. I see my images being used for lots of business purposes, not mainly entertainment blogs and websites.

I hope Yaymicro can think again about this streaming offering. I wouldn't mind sites doing something like that instead of offering free images. To only have the option of having all my portfolio included seems like madness. I'd rather experiment with Stipple, who have been doing something similar. I haven't bothered with them because I can't find any photographers saying they're making money with them.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #127 on:** September 23, 2013, 12:03 »

The only people I can see that are likely to benefit from this initiative are Yay employees. Everyone else is likely to be a loser.

old crow · « **Reply #128 on:** September 23, 2013, 12:57 »

It seems to me the growth of the industry is reliant on getting someone elses marketshare and the way to do that is cut prices. They however, never take into consideration the contributors cost vs return.

This industry needs an artist union terribly.

dirkr · « **Reply #129 on:** September 23, 2013, 13:27 »

In this case a simple opt-out does the work. I just hope that the vast majority of contributors recognizes this, than Yay can start their streaming product without content.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #130 on:** September 23, 2013, 13:47 »

boy·cott
tr.v. boy·cott·ed, boy·cott·ing, boy·cotts
To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with as an expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion.
n.
The act or an instance of boycotting.

somethingpretentious · « **Reply #131 on:** September 23, 2013, 14:06 »

Quote from: dirkr on September 23, 2013, 13:27

In this case a simple opt-out does the work. I just hope that the vast majority of contributors recognizes this, than Yay can start their streaming product without content.

I disagree. All contributors are by default opted in. The vast majority of contributors will never read this and will not be aware of that their files are included in a streaming product. Many does not even read English. Yay is taking advantage of this.

For a product so horrible for contributors, the default should surely be "opted out".

Ron · « **Reply #132 on:** September 23, 2013, 14:14 »

Facebook got a massive backlash for doing opt out on Beacon. Opt out is bad practice. It should always be opt in. When you are messing around with someone else's intellectual property the decent thing to do is to offer opt in, instead of opt out. I am glad I am not part of YAY and never will be.

We need to start reporting these agencies to the BBB or similar bodies.

somethingpretentious · « **Reply #133 on:** September 23, 2013, 14:18 »

Linda, will you consider setting the default to opted out?

sharpshot · « **Reply #134 on:** September 24, 2013, 04:22 »

If they don't put the default to opt out for streaming, it will be a good time to leave Yaymicro. Perhaps the threat of lots of us leaving will persuade them?

roede-orm · « **Reply #135 on:** September 24, 2013, 05:19 »

By the way: who has actually ever achieved significant revenue with YAY! I never did. So I'm gone. The chance to ever get paid the time and effort in the future is suspectet zero.

skyfish · « **Reply #136 on:** September 25, 2013, 02:32 »

Tried to follow their instruction to delete images - nope, delete option does not exist anymore. very bad.
requested from them to delete my images.
No way to select an image in portfolio

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #137 on:** September 25, 2013, 12:20 »

So, Linda.... how did you get on in that meeting..?

Ron · « **Reply #138 on:** September 25, 2013, 12:29 »

Quote from: Monty-m-gue on September 25, 2013, 12:20

So, Linda.... how did you get on in that meeting..?

Quote from: Red Dove on September 23, 2013, 08:42

SCENE 1. Daylight

tumbleweed. the toll of a distant bell. no word has issued from the royal court, thus the peasants drift back to their daily toil, none the wiser.

skyfish · « **Reply #139 on:** September 25, 2013, 15:42 »

I sent them e-mail reminding that what they told me to use x in portfolio to delete images does not exist (not Chrome, not IE).
They didn't answer anymore. I sent again a request to delete images. They really loosing face.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #140 on:** September 26, 2013, 01:09 »

Quote from: skyfish on September 25, 2013, 15:42

I sent them e-mail reminding that what they told me to use x in portfolio to delete images does not exist (not Chrome, not IE).
They didn't answer anymore. I sent again a request to delete images. They really loosing face.

Just checked in both IE9 and Chrome - the delete facility for individual images is still there. Logged in (obviously) click on My Account then My Portfolio then click on the image you wish to delete. Bottom left of the image are two small icons -a pen icon for editing and an X icon to delete. Hope that helps. Regards, David.

noodle · « **Reply #141 on:** September 26, 2013, 06:32 »

Quote from: Ron on September 25, 2013, 12:29

Quote from: Monty-m-gue on September 25, 2013, 12:20
So, Linda.... how did you get on in that meeting..?

Quote from: Red Dove on September 23, 2013, 08:42
SCENE 1. Daylight

tumbleweed. the toll of a distant bell. no word has issued from the royal court, thus the peasants drift back to their daily toil, none the wiser.

LOL

I just busted a gut

skyfish · « **Reply #142 on:** September 26, 2013, 07:40 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on September 26, 2013, 01:09

Quote from: skyfish on September 25, 2013, 15:42
I sent them e-mail reminding that what they told me to use x in portfolio to delete images does not exist (not Chrome, not IE).
They didn't answer anymore. I sent again a request to delete images. They really loosing face.

Just checked in both IE9 and Chrome - the delete facility for individual images is still there. Logged in (obviously) click on My Account then My Portfolio then click on the image you wish to delete. Bottom left of the image are two small icons -a pen icon for editing and an X icon to delete. Hope that helps. Regards, David.

I finally received email from them - they promised that all my port will be removed from database in 24 hours. Will check tomorrow.

skyfish · « **Reply #143 on:** September 28, 2013, 01:26 »

I think this should drive attention to behavior of this "agency" from all: they promised to delete my images in 24 hours, time passed, instead they closed access, but continue to sell images, my port is still online, YAY stole images. I think they initially had no intention to work normally.

What they wrote 2 days ago:

Hi,

Your account is now closed and the images deleted. They will be gone from the website within the next 24 hours. I am terribly sorry you had this problem, but the option is there, the delete individual images option. No users have had this problem before, maybe it is a problem with your browser. We check everything and the option is still there. Please don't hold grudge against Yay Micro because there is clearly a misunderstanding here and the possibility of deleting images by users is there, we never took this out.

Have a great day!
Best,
Irina - Yay team

KimsCreativeHub · « **Reply #144 on:** September 28, 2013, 08:45 »

@skyfish. Sorry you are having troubles and Hopefully it's a tech glitch, I've dealt with yay in the recent past and found them helpful when I closed my account, please keep us posted.

skyfish · « **Reply #145 on:** September 28, 2013, 09:58 »

Quote from: KimsCreativeHub on September 28, 2013, 08:45

@skyfish. Sorry you are having troubles and Hopefully it's a tech glitch, I've dealt with yay in the recent past and found them helpful when I closed my account, please keep us posted.

They closed account before deleting images, but i asked them to do otherwise and they promised to delete images because x button was not available for me (even this is very strange). If it is a glitch, they could give an answer for this. Didn't delete images after introducing a product which will devalue any portfolio? Sound suspicious. Will wait a little

KimsCreativeHub · « **Reply #146 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:04 »

Wow... Curious, how many images do you have up?

skyfish · « **Reply #147 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:06 »

Quote from: KimsCreativeHub on September 28, 2013, 10:04

Wow... Curious, how many images do you have up?

589 currently

KimsCreativeHub · « **Reply #148 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:12 »

That's a good amount, I'd like to see your portfolio, could you put a link

skyfish · « **Reply #149 on:** September 28, 2013, 10:40 »

Quote from: KimsCreativeHub on September 28, 2013, 10:12

That's a good amount, I'd like to see your portfolio, could you put a link

no problem
http://yaymicro.com/search.action?search.photographer=skyfish

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