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rinderart

« on: June 14, 2008, 11:47 »
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OK, so I joined. Dont really know why But I did. sent them about 2000 images. Nice FTP. everything cool, Then Come to find out I have to upload a Pic of each Model also with the release. I dont have time to resize a pic of 600 models?and upload each one.Is this wierd or what. They dont trust a release. ? If the site were an established Player maybe but it seems a bit much. what you think?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2008, 11:48 by rinderart »


« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2008, 12:08 »
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Thanks for the heads up - they were one of my July projects.  Good grief, I don't have time for that either and my port is tiny.  I know that some (like Leaf) have added a small photo to the top of their release all along.

« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 12:12 »
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I think I'm not going to join...
Some sites make it really difficult to attach MR's.

« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 13:41 »
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I think if you talk about it, theyll listen. That seems a bit unnessesary...

rinderart

« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 16:22 »
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I asked them about it, and they said thats the way it is. No exceptions. I just wonder Why they want this. do they know something That SS or Istk doesn't. They said it's easier for us. Don't think so. They also said Iofoto had no problems. I guess if I had assistants I would have no problem either. Other than that , The upload process is a dream. maybe if I see some movement or talk that others are having sales. I'll get back to them.

« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 17:07 »
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since some sites require while others don't, I always attach a snapshot of the model to the release to avoid these issues. The sites are simply trying to cover their butts. Makes alot of sense  when you boil it all down...I'd require it too if i was running a micro. I admit that it is a bit cumbersome but i understand.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2008, 23:38 by anonymous »

chumley

« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 18:09 »
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« Last Edit: August 23, 2008, 18:20 by chumley »

RT


« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 18:23 »
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Standard practice on most traditional stock sites, I imagine they took that idea and have applied it themselves, especially as I belief some of the management are from a traditional stock background.

And Laurin you must stop exagerating, you've only got 559 photo's on there so far out of which about 50-60 are people shots and some are of a mannequin, so to say 600 models is stretching it a bit!
« Last Edit: June 14, 2008, 18:30 by RT »

« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 20:43 »
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I hate the photo of the model thing but the truth is, Crestock requires it and it makes it much easier (although I have discontinued uploading there).  I have done it for my Yay files and yes, it's a bit of a pain but I hope they have good plans for it (think Dreamstime's "more images of this model" thing.

« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2008, 02:17 »
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Wait until you have to attach every MR to the uploaded image, there goes real fun. They do have batch processor for keywording, but not for MR attaching, you you have to click and attach every MR one by one on every single photo you upload. It is soo annoying.

« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2008, 05:55 »
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This is real problems!!!!! To actually have to do something... Why cantt someone build a machine that wipe our a....

No matter how easy thing are getting, we lower the level.  Its kind of funny:) But Im with you guys, we need progress and innovations!!!

« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2008, 06:53 »
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This is real problems!!!!! To actually have to do something... Why cantt someone build a machine that wipe our a....

No matter how easy thing are getting, we lower the level.  Its kind of funny:) But Im with you guys, we need progress and innovations!!!

StockXpert has batch MR attaching system. You can attach MR to 50 images in one click. So it is not mission imposible.

DanP68

« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2008, 10:45 »
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I took the plunge too, after stating "no more startup/small sites for me."  Their website design, tools, and philosophy immediately appealed to me.

My plan is to upload new material to them for the entire summer.  By September, I want to see advertising.  If I don't see advertising, then I'll probably pull out. 

As far as sales go, I don't expect sales the first several months.  But by early winter, there should be signs of life.  By this time next year, they need to be competing with the bottom of the Big 7 to keep me interested.

rinderart

« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2008, 16:59 »
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Standard practice on most traditional stock sites, I imagine they took that idea and have applied it themselves, especially as I belief some of the management are from a traditional stock background.

And Laurin you must stop exagerating, you've only got 559 photo's on there so far out of which about 50-60 are people shots and some are of a mannequin, so to say 600 models is stretching it a bit!

Didn't you read what I said? I stopped when I saw They needed Pictures of the models. I only pushed through the non Model stuff. Im only asking a question here. But thanks for doing that so needed research into my port.............And BTW, I have a LOT more than 600. Next time your in LA, I'll let ya come over and count them for everyone.LOL
« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 18:34 by rinderart »

« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2008, 21:01 »
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I just upload the same image of the model on the image and was excepted.

dullegg

« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2008, 21:12 »
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I just upload the same image of the model on the image and was excepted.

imagecom, you mean 'ACCEPTED". excepted means 'EXCLUDEd".
congrats!  ;)

rinderart

« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2008, 22:34 »
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But..............Doesn't the image you upload count as the image of the person.??? Excuse me But am I missing something????? and why do these Dumb icons appear when I hit a question mark???
« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 22:36 by rinderart »

« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2008, 23:50 »
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I think you should upload an image of the model signing the release, because you could have one MR that you wrote yourself and just changed the image in PS.

Maybe a video clip of the models signing the release, zooming in on the handwriting, and a newspaper for the day just to prove that date, and any living grandparents as well.  ;D

David

RT


« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2008, 01:38 »
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Standard practice on most traditional stock sites, I imagine they took that idea and have applied it themselves, especially as I belief some of the management are from a traditional stock background.

And Laurin you must stop exagerating, you've only got 559 photo's on there so far out of which about 50-60 are people shots and some are of a mannequin, so to say 600 models is stretching it a bit!

Didn't you read what I said? I stopped when I saw They needed Pictures of the models. I only pushed through the non Model stuff. Im only asking a question here. But thanks for doing that so needed research into my port.............And BTW, I have a LOT more than 600. Next time your in LA, I'll let ya come over and count them for everyone.LOL

Laurin,
Yes I read it, and that's why I said what I did, I don't want to start a character assasination but I can't understand why you always have to inflate things.
You haven't even got 2000 images on SS or 600 models and they're your favourite site, my research took about 10 seconds, I just typed your name in.
Nothing personal just asking that you quote realistic figures.
Take care.

« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2008, 07:24 »
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Hi dullegg ,
 Sorry You are right - my mistake.
 regards

« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2008, 07:28 »
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I think you should upload an image of the model signing the release, because you could have one MR that you wrote yourself and just changed the image in PS.

Maybe a video clip of the models signing the release, zooming in on the handwriting, and a newspaper for the day just to prove that date, and any living grandparents as well.  ;D

David

dont give them ideas...

Bettyboop

    This user is banned.
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2008, 07:50 »
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Standard practice on most traditional stock sites, I imagine they took that idea and have applied it themselves, especially as I belief some of the management are from a traditional stock background.

And Laurin you must stop exagerating, you've only got 559 photo's on there so far out of which about 50-60 are people shots and some are of a mannequin, so to say 600 models is stretching it a bit!

Didn't you read what I said? I stopped when I saw They needed Pictures of the models. I only pushed through the non Model stuff. Im only asking a question here. But thanks for doing that so needed research into my port.............And BTW, I have a LOT more than 600. Next time your in LA, I'll let ya come over and count them for everyone.LOL

Laurin,
Yes I read it, and that's why I said what I did, I don't want to start a character assasination but I can't understand why you always have to inflate things.
You haven't even got 2000 images on SS or 600 models and they're your favourite site, my research took about 10 seconds, I just typed your name in.
Nothing personal just asking that you quote realistic figures.
Take care.


well you kinda gotta hand to our dearest Laurin he is consistently inconsistent at all times and his flair for hype and denial is very entertaining :)

Microbius

« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2008, 08:20 »
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Don't be mean, you know Laurin land doesn't function in same way as the rest of the universe.
You need to get ya Rinder specs on, then all will become clear  ;)

rinderart

« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2008, 00:09 »
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Standard practice on most traditional stock sites, I imagine they took that idea and have applied it themselves, especially as I belief some of the management are from a traditional stock background.

And Laurin you must stop exagerating, you've only got 559 photo's on there so far out of which about 50-60 are people shots and some are of a mannequin, so to say 600 models is stretching it a bit!

Didn't you read what I said? I stopped when I saw They needed Pictures of the models. I only pushed through the non Model stuff. Im only asking a question here. But thanks for doing that so needed research into my port.............And BTW, I have a LOT more than 600. Next time your in LA, I'll let ya come over and count them for everyone.LOL

Laurin,
Yes I read it, and that's why I said what I did, I don't want to start a character assasination but I can't understand why you always have to inflate things.
You haven't even got 2000 images on SS or 600 models and they're your favourite site, my research took about 10 seconds, I just typed your name in.
Nothing personal just asking that you quote realistic figures.
Take care.


thanks for your interest in my work and Uploads. I'll be sure to Be very  precise Just for you,LOL. Strange you would take even 10 seconds, Im honered. I don't even know what you shoot . If you said you had 12,000 images somewhere It would mean nothing to me and I wouldn't go look and count. Glad you care though, Thought I was close with 1750. You telling me I dont have 600 Model shots?  Im shocked. Nothing personal?? Ya right. Not since LO.

RT


« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2008, 04:42 »
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thanks for your interest in my work and Uploads. I'll be sure to Be very  precise Just for you,LOL. Strange you would take even 10 seconds, Im honered. I don't even know what you shoot . If you said you had 12,000 images somewhere It would mean nothing to me and I wouldn't go look and count. Glad you care though, Thought I was close with 1750. You telling me I dont have 600 Model shots?  Im shocked. Nothing personal?? Ya right. Not since LO.

I don't care whether you know what I shoot, it doesn't effect me in any way, to be honest I'm getting tired of the way you always try to make yourself out as a big time stock pro and make these wild claims, that may impress some of the novices on SS but as you can see nobody is that impressed here.
And why are you so surprised that I want you to be precise, you make claims with BS information and then you're surprised when somebody questions you about it!!
Then Come to find out I have to upload a Pic of each Model also with the release. I dont have time to resize a pic of 600 models?and upload each one.
Tell you what, I'll appologise and admit I'm wrong if you can show me a site where you have photo's of your 600 different models, or I'll tell you what even 200 different models as I don't want you to be too precise.
As for "Not since LO" I haven't got a clue what you're on about.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 04:43 by RT »

rinderart

« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2008, 11:11 »
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sorry robert, Pls accept apoligys. I didnt mean 600 different models. 600 Model shots that referred to Yaymicro uploading Photos of. I was just asking a question as to what people thought of it. Im sorry , Im not absolutely precise. I do have correct info most of the time. I do try my best and have been around a long time, Maybe to long. I try to help a lot of people that struggle, thats all I got. Sorry Friend If I said the wrong things. i just try as hard as I can to not get personal, But when I see any little jabs for no reason, My defence flies up. And the law of averages says Im gonna screw up every now and then. again sorry. I answer too many people, in to short a time. MY Bad. Im only good at one thing, Photography and teaching, Im horrible at typing my intent. Again sorry, Your one of the good cops. Didn't we have issues at LO? about me trying to convince people to get out and cut there losse's? If not sorry again.  A lot of folks have to understand, I bring up topics and issues based on the questions people ask me. So i put them out there as most people are shy to post. Im not, I'll just Blurt it out and see what happens and Ya have to understand I talk to a lot of people everyday specifically about this business, if you saw my e-mail Load Most would be shocked. I take the time to answer each one and have a 8am Phone call every morning from people with special problems around the world. I go out and either buy or get loaned the newist cameras,Lense's, assories, bags ,straps CF cards Etc, so I can talk about them and not only on stock sites But pro sites as well.   WHY? For money? Not at all. I really Honestly do care. and if I can help just a few save some time or there own money I will.  Again , Sorry Robert for the misunderstanding. I'll work on that. Im trying the best I know how. And I know I'll piss off a few along the road. So be it.  Peace, laurin

RT


« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2008, 11:56 »
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I could have guessed your reply and saved you the typing  ;)

Anyhow, you don't need to do that for every shot with a model in it, you just upload one photo to go with each release, then each time you upload a shot with that model in it you just attach the release.

So in other words if you upload 1200 photo's featuring five models you only need to upload five release's and five photo's of that model.

It's been like this on traditional (I hate the term macro) sites for years, microstock sites are copying the trad's so it's something you'll probably have to get use to.

DanP68

« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2008, 23:09 »
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Come on guys.  You are both valuable forum contributors and I appreciate having both of you around.  Let's not drive each other off.

Microbius

« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2008, 02:59 »
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Sorry Dan but one of the things that makes this forum worthwhile is that if someone starts spouting BS they get pulled up on it. It keeps the fantasists from taking over and cliques forming.
You've got to remember that there are a lot of beginners here that don't know what to believe, if you start letting these things slide before you know it this place will end up like the SS forum.

« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2008, 09:18 »
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The problem looks to be a missunderstanding, with the number of models and images, but both are correct, some sites upload one model release and attach it to many images, but IStock want the release or a combined release for each shot 600 images 600 releases, then Alamy trust you to have the release if you mark the image as model released and recently closed someones account for release fraud.

I use the same models and the way I do it is to have one release per shoot, so if I upload two images of the same model I have two dated releases that matches the image data and will attach the correct release to the image.

David

rinderart

« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008, 01:43 »
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Whats the use. Nothing better to do I guess. try helping a few people. Theres a concept for ya.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 01:45 by rinderart »

RT


« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2008, 04:28 »
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try helping ( selling your book and courses to ) a few people. Theres a concept for ya.  ::)


RacePhoto

« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2008, 12:24 »
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I think you should upload an image of the model signing the release, because you could have one MR that you wrote yourself and just changed the image in PS.

Maybe a video clip of the models signing the release, zooming in on the handwriting, and a newspaper for the day just to prove that date, and any living grandparents as well.  ;D

David

Which is what it's getting to, and why I've given up on models, buildings, vehicles, toys, objects, and anything with a registered shape in my photos. I know I'll sell less and have less marketable photos, but that's life. CYA agency policies which are over the top.

Translation? I'm going editorial.

Funny! Thanks for making Monday start with a good laugh.  ;D



 

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