Author Topic: 100MB sale for $11.58 wow (Read 24709 times)

nicku · « **on:** May 28, 2012, 05:27 »

last days i have got two 100MB sales..... for $11,58 each.... is this right or i miss something here??? 150 credits sale and 50% revenue just 11 bucks...

jm · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:39 »

Hi Everyone,

Great news! We've introduced another value added service to our clients - 123RF Image Enlargement Service. And you can now see this as being available on the website if you look at your file sizes, we now have the following:

Size Credits Your share
S 1 50%
M 2 50%
L 3 50%
XL 4 50%
XXL 5 50%
100 MB TIFF 150 20 credits
200 MB TIFF 300 40 credits
300 MB TIFF 450 60 credits

We are employing an external party to provide this service to our clients. We are using your 5 credit version of the image to enlarge it to 100, 200, 300 MB TIFFs with some minor touch up, removal of noise, etc. Don't worry about your original images, we do make sure that we keep everything cataloged and our external service provider will not distribute this version without first consulting 123RF.

The good news is, you're now getting approximately 13.3% of the FULL VALUE (not 50% as in the case of the S-XXL size images) of the credits for each image enlarged, while we share the remaining amount with the image enlargement service provider.

We hope that this will prove to be a good and profitable business model for you and our clients as it will increase the earning capacity for everyone. We will promote this service to all our clients and soon you should see some heavy hitting sales coming your way!

Thank you very much.

Alex.
for 123RF.com

nicku · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:42 »

ok... than why on the site says 150 credits?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2012, 05:59 »

Quote from: nicku on May 28, 2012, 05:42

ok... than why on the site says 150 credits?

They are charging 150 credits and giving 13.3% of the earnings to you, apparently, which is the equivalent of what 20 credits cost.

It seems a bit of a swindle, since the "upsizing service" will simply click the button on their interpolation program and apparently that amount of work is worth 61.7 credits.

grafix04 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:01 »

Roll on Jan-1, 2013. I won't even give a second thought dumping this site along with the slimy management that run it.

Lagereek · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:05 »

Blimey! thats all I can say, blimey! and again, blimey. Its turning into a Herbert-Strasse in Hamburg.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:05 »

BTW, will these 150 credit sales take you 150 credits closer to your credit target in January or just 20 credits closer?
If the latter, it amounts to raising the target before the system has even started.

jm · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:08 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 28, 2012, 06:05

BTW, will these 150 credit sales take you 150 credits closer to your credit target in January or just 20 credits closer?
If the latter, it amounts to raising the target before the system has even started.

20

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:14 »

Do you think they'd let me be their external resizing company? I'd happily resize images in PS for that much, I'd even give them a 20% discount. It's a better pay rate than I get taking and editing my own photos.

jm · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2012, 06:18 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 28, 2012, 06:14

Do you think they'd let me be their external resizing company? I'd happily resize images in PS for that much, I'd even give them a 20% discount. It's a better pay rate than I get taking and editing my own photos.

They say "we share the remaining amount with the image enlargement service provider." It doesn't necessarily mean that resizing company really gets 36,7% :-)

heywoody · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:52 »

So, instead of getting 2.5 credits, you are getting 20 credits for the same file - not seeing a problem here

sharpshot · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:20 »

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wut · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:34 »

They're the biggest thieves in the industry. I despise them

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:16 »

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 07:52

So, instead of getting 2.5 credits, you are getting 20 credits for the same file - not seeing a problem here

The problem is that the division of the spoils should be in line with agreed percentages. The deduction they are making for upsizing is not commensurate with the costs they are incurring. Suppose an agency flipped one of your shots horizontally, sold the result for a million dollars and geve you $100 for it, saying it's more than you normally get and they had enhanced your image with their work - would you be happy?

Tabimura · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:17 »

Quote from: wut on May 28, 2012, 08:34

They're the biggest thieves in the industry. I despise them

They're not the biggest, Fotolia reigns supreme here.
But they're shady to say the least (123RF).

wut · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:29 »

Quote from: Tabimura on May 28, 2012, 09:17

Quote from: wut on May 28, 2012, 08:34
They're the biggest thieves in the industry. I despise them

They're not the biggest, Fotolia reigns supreme here.
But they're shady to say the least (123RF).

FT at least didn't add such spins. A company loses all respect (from me), when they start to add those on top of everything (cuts), they're insulting our intelligence, mocking us really. Showing us disrespect and how we're dispensable (mess off if you don't like the deal)

click_click · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:31 »

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 07:52

So, instead of getting 2.5 credits, you are getting 20 credits for the same file - not seeing a problem here

Huh, why am I uploading to Alamy then if someone there pays $500+ for a RF file leaving me $200+ commission?

Why even upload to any micros when we can give our files for free...

I don't understand your argument.

If a company charges 30 times as much for an enlargement compared to the XXL file size then it would be a little bit more, let's say, respectful to also pay 30 times as much in commission. Hell make it 20 times as much.

I have to sell TWO XS Level 5 images on DT to get more $$$ than an 100 MB enlargement at 123RF. Pathetic.

wut · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:34 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 28, 2012, 09:16

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 07:52
So, instead of getting 2.5 credits, you are getting 20 credits for the same file - not seeing a problem here

The problem is that the division of the spoils should be in line with agreed percentages. The deduction they are making for upsizing is not commensurate with the costs they are incurring. Suppose an agency flipped one of your shots horizontally, sold the result for a million dollars and geve you $100 for it, saying it's more than you normally get and they had enhanced your image with their work - would you be happy?

That would be in line with their spins, yes, you nailed it

wut · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:36 »

Quote from: click_click on May 28, 2012, 09:31

I have to sell TWO XS Level 5 images on DT to get more $$$ than an 100 MB enlargement at 123RF. Pathetic.

Indeed!

All of their royalties (for all file sizes) are utterly pathetic. But sheeple still keep on saying they're paying 50%, they're a fair agency! (not that they're takin that away from 99% of the contributors at the end of the year)

heywoody · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:46 »

I don't buy into this fair and unfair bit at all - these companies are all there to make money for themselves, not us - it's commerce and fairness doesn't come into it except as a marketing ploy. So, while I agree with you all from a moral viewpoint, the work in making the image, uploading it etc is all done. The very same image could be licenced from less than $0.10 to tens of dollars depending on artificial criterial like size and licence and, on a practical level, I prefer a $10 commission to a 10c commission.

Tabimura · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:48 »

Quote from: wut on May 28, 2012, 09:29

Quote from: Tabimura on May 28, 2012, 09:17
Quote from: wut on May 28, 2012, 08:34
They're the biggest thieves in the industry. I despise them

They're not the biggest, Fotolia reigns supreme here.
But they're shady to say the least (123RF).

FT at least didn't add such spins. A company loses all respect (from me), when they start to add those on top of everything (cuts), they're insulting our intelligence, mocking us really. Showing us disrespect and how we're dispensable (mess off if you don't like the deal)

FT did add their share of spins, you can find them on msg with a simple search - they're the worse in my view. However, 123RF shows great disrespect for artists. BUT, unlike FT, they're not that important and these stunts will surely spin their arses off when artists will leave the site. Which will happen, I'm sure a lot of us can get rid of 123RF without remorse or big dent in income.

wut · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:04 »

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 09:46

I don't buy into this fair and unfair bit at all - these companies are all there to make money for themselves, not us - it's commerce and fairness doesn't come into it except as a marketing ploy. So, while I agree with you all from a moral viewpoint, the work in making the image, uploading it etc is all done. The very same image could be licenced from less than $0.10 to tens of dollars depending on artificial criterial like size and licence and, on a practical level, I prefer a $10 commission to a 10c commission.

And this kind of attitude makes it possible for them to get away with it

(millions of ppl are thinking that way)

click_click · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:08 »

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 09:46

I don't buy into this fair and unfair bit at all - these companies are all there to make money for themselves, not us - it's commerce and fairness doesn't come into it except as a marketing ploy. So, while I agree with you all from a moral viewpoint, the work in making the image, uploading it etc is all done. The very same image could be licenced from less than $0.10 to tens of dollars depending on artificial criterial like size and licence and, on a practical level, I prefer a $10 commission to a 10c commission.

We're in this for the money as well. It's a partnership between the supplier and the distributor.

No product -> no sales, as easy as that.

While the world is not fair, we can and do ask for respect, give us a contract that states you get 50%, period.

But to turn around and then introduce such premium, high priced services leaving us with 20% is not what has been advertised on the package.

The agencies can do as they see fit, no problem with me, just be honest - at least to us contributors because it's still our content they're selling, not theirs...

cthoman · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:21 »

Quote from: jm on May 28, 2012, 05:39

The good news is, you're now getting approximately 13.3% of the FULL VALUE (not 50% as in the case of the S-XXL size images) of the credits for each image enlarged, while we share the remaining amount with the image enlargement service provider.

That's pretty cheesy. I'll probably never sell any of these, but it still seems like a bad precedent.

wut · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:40 »

Quote from: cthoman on May 28, 2012, 10:21

Quote from: jm on May 28, 2012, 05:39

The good news is, you're now getting approximately 13.3% of the FULL VALUE (not 50% as in the case of the S-XXL size images) of the credits for each image enlarged, while we share the remaining amount with the image enlargement service provider.

That's pretty cheesy. I'll probably never sell any of these, but it still seems like a bad precedent.

I have and it left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I almost felt like Monica Levinsky

It's a shame I can't opt out of this steal

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