Author Topic: 100MB sale for $11.58 wow (Read 24732 times)

drugal · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2012, 15:12 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 28, 2012, 05:59

Quote from: nicku on May 28, 2012, 05:42
ok... than why on the site says 150 credits?

They are charging 150 credits and giving 13.3% of the earnings to you, apparently, which is the equivalent of what 20 credits cost.

It seems a bit of a swindle, since the "upsizing service" will simply click the button on their interpolation program and apparently that amount of work is worth 61.7 credits.

I'll upsize twice their size for the same $$

Anybody? I'm very good.. practiced it for years.

djpadavona · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2012, 22:57 »

My RPD has fallen through the floor at 123RF the last few months. And since downloads have not increased to compensate, it is now one of my lowest tier earners. Can't say I'll be uploading much to them in the future.

nicku · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2012, 23:47 »

Quote from: djpadavona on May 28, 2012, 22:57

My RPD has fallen through the floor at 123RF the last few months. And since downloads have not increased to compensate, it is now one of my lowest tier earners. Can't say I'll be uploading much to them in the future.

For me 123RF is my 4th earner; way over DP from the beginning. The sales are slowly but steadily increasing.

heywoody · « **Reply #28 on:** May 29, 2012, 09:22 »

Quote from: wut on May 28, 2012, 10:04

Quote from: heywoody on May 28, 2012, 09:46
I don't buy into this fair and unfair bit at all - these companies are all there to make money for themselves, not us - it's commerce and fairness doesn't come into it except as a marketing ploy. So, while I agree with you all from a moral viewpoint, the work in making the image, uploading it etc is all done. The very same image could be licenced from less than $0.10 to tens of dollars depending on artificial criterial like size and licence and, on a practical level, I prefer a $10 commission to a 10c commission.

And this kind of attitude makes it possible for them to get away with it (millions of ppl are thinking that way)

Nothing to do with attitude - they get away with it because they can.

wut · « **Reply #29 on:** May 29, 2012, 09:24 »

It has everything to do with it; they couldn't get away with it if we wouldn't let them

Perry · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2012, 14:43 »

Quote from: Alex for 123RF.com

Hi Everyone,

Great news!

Yeah, really great

Sounds like: Great news! You have cancer!

The bin in my avatar is almost full, I need to fit Veer and 123rf there too...

Tabimura · « **Reply #31 on:** May 29, 2012, 15:04 »

I've had several sales of these enlarged tiffs. I asked 123RF if I can opt out of this and they said no. I suspect the "company" doing the resizing would be a person from the agency, like Alex or someone else.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2012, 17:10 »

Quote from: Perry on May 29, 2012, 14:43

...The bin in my avatar is almost full, I need to fit Veer and 123rf there too...

Easy Photoshop fix - just squish them a bit as they're shoved in the bin. Sort of seems fitting anyway

Beach Bum · « **Reply #33 on:** May 29, 2012, 19:14 »

Quote from: Tabimura on May 29, 2012, 15:04

I've had several sales of these enlarged tiffs. I asked 123RF if I can opt out of this and they said no. I suspect the "company" doing the resizing would be a person from the agency, like Alex or someone else.

True. I can't imagine them outsourcing something as simple as upsizing.

briciola · « **Reply #34 on:** May 29, 2012, 19:18 »

Quote from: Perry on May 29, 2012, 14:43

Quote from: Alex for 123RF.com
Hi Everyone,

Great news!

Yeah, really great

Sounds like: Great news! You have cancer!

The bin in my avatar is almost full, I need to fit Veer and 123rf there too...

just out of curiosity, who will you be left with? Seems to me the only ethical company out there is Alamy...

MatHayward · « **Reply #35 on:** May 29, 2012, 19:37 »

Download your stats at 123rf and look at the commissions you have received for each sale. Compare the commission amount to the size of the file and the price they charge. Can anyone in this forum claim a full price sale?

Right now you should receive...

50 cents for a Small
$1 for a Medium
$1.50 for a Large
$2 for an XL
$2.50 for an XXL Jpeg
$5.00 for an XXL Tiff

If they were paying us that it is still demoralizing and grossly undercutting the other sites for the same content. Take a look at your stats though...they aren't paying that. The closest I came was $1.41 for a large sale. Makes me feel dirty.

Mat

wut · « **Reply #36 on:** May 29, 2012, 19:42 »

Quote from: MatHayward on May 29, 2012, 19:37

Download your stats at 123rf and look at the commissions you have received for each sale. Compare the commission amount to the size of the file and the price they charge. Can anyone in this forum claim a full price sale?

Right now you should receive...

50 cents for a Small
$1 for a Medium
$1.50 for a Large
$2 for an XL
$2.50 for an XXL Jpeg
$5.00 for an XXL Tiff

If they were paying us that it is still demoralizing and grossly undercutting the other sites for the same content. Take a look at your stats though...they aren't paying that. The closest I came was $1.41 for a large sale. Makes me feel dirty.

Mat

You've hit the nail on the head! I just got 3.1$ for an XS at DT. Their full res JPG is way cheaper than that

pancaketom · « **Reply #37 on:** May 29, 2012, 20:16 »

Quote from: MatHayward on May 29, 2012, 19:37

Download your stats at 123rf and look at the commissions you have received for each sale. Compare the commission amount to the size of the file and the price they charge. Can anyone in this forum claim a full price sale?

Right now you should receive...

50 cents for a Small
$1 for a Medium
$1.50 for a Large
$2 for an XL
$2.50 for an XXL Jpeg
$5.00 for an XXL Tiff

If they were paying us that it is still demoralizing and grossly undercutting the other sites for the same content. Take a look at your stats though...they aren't paying that. The closest I came was $1.41 for a large sale. Makes me feel dirty.

Mat

I have gotten .50 for sm, 1.50 for L, and 2.00 for XL this month, but they are the exceptions.

They advertise credits as low as .68/credit - which at 50% would result in S = .34, M = .68, L = 1.02, XL = 1.36 ... Which still doesn't explain the .60 I got for a large.

On DT I got .22 for an extra small last month, so they are not immune from returns below the expected.

briciola · « **Reply #38 on:** May 29, 2012, 20:28 »

Quote from: MatHayward on May 29, 2012, 19:37

Download your stats at 123rf and look at the commissions you have received for each sale. Compare the commission amount to the size of the file and the price they charge. Can anyone in this forum claim a full price sale?

Right now you should receive...

50 cents for a Small
$1 for a Medium
$1.50 for a Large
$2 for an XL
$2.50 for an XXL Jpeg
$5.00 for an XXL Tiff

If they were paying us that it is still demoralizing and grossly undercutting the other sites for the same content. Take a look at your stats though...they aren't paying that. The closest I came was $1.41 for a large sale. Makes me feel dirty.

Mat

F&ck me I've been well screwed, 1.74 for my last XXL tiff. Every single sale I have checked is below your numbers, rip off *insult removed* - they can f*ck off, same as veer

luissantos84 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 29, 2012, 23:18 »

guys don´t forget that buyers have discounts, same goes for IS, I really don´t believe 123RF is taking our share going that way

Perry · « **Reply #40 on:** May 30, 2012, 00:16 »

Quote from: briciola on May 29, 2012, 19:18

just out of curiosity, who will you be left with? Seems to me the only ethical company out there is Alamy...

I'm still left with Alamy, SS and DT (DT is very borderline here, I hope they don't try some stupid radical stunt!)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 01, 2012, 07:05 »

PEL for 11.25$ ??

JPSDK · « **Reply #43 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:03 »

13%
and we hear of 7-9 cents.

We are clowns in a circus.

We are only there because else the agency had nothing to sell. They sell our copyrights in form of licences, but not only that, they restribute our copyrights to all kinds of obscure affiliates. There is a whole subbusiness going on there, with agencies selling collections to eachother. Partent sites, sister sites and clean pirate sites.

We think they sell images, but they do not. The images rest on servers in basements, whereas copies are sold, by our permission.

What I try to say, is that the middleman part of the circus is soon being able to do without us, we are only a necessary evil.

When you look at iStock, its obvious that they would rather be without us.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #44 on:** October 03, 2012, 10:31 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on October 01, 2012, 07:05

PEL for 11.25$ ??

I just got two of those today. If we're still being paid 50% royalty, that means we got paid 22.5 cents per credit (it's 50 credits for a PEL) and the buyer paid 45 cents per.

Using their online purchase tool, you can't get lower than 68 cents a credit (I tried up to 60,000 and it was still 68 cents per). So either they're shortchanging us on the percentage already - and it wasn't supposed to happen until January - or they're discounting the credits way beyond what they say on the site (as iStock does).

We should have received $17 at a minimum (50% of 68 cents x 50 credits). Did you already contact support about this? I don't suppose it'll change anything, but FWIW I'll find out what weasley excuse they can come up with for this if no one else already has.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 03, 2012, 17:22 »

Quote from: jsnover on October 03, 2012, 10:31

Did you already contact support about this?

I haven´t, they seem so active here

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #46 on:** October 03, 2012, 19:16 »

I just sent in a support ticket. They do come here on and off, but even if the answer is that they're flogging very discounted credits, I'd like to get them to say that's what they're doing. I'll post here when I get a reply if they don't jump into the thread first

alex123rf · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:19 »

Hi Everyone,

Please allow me to address the issue on promotional credits.

1. We do give out promotional credits.
2. These credits are free.
3. We often give this out to prospective clients to test drive 123RF so that they'll search and look for content.
4. In the event that these clients use the credits to download content, 123RF is committed to pay 20 cents per credit to our contributors.
5. These payments come out from our allocated Advertising and Promotion budget.

I hope you will find this explanation satisfactory. We DO NOT DEDUCT payment from you when these credits are present.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

alex123rf · « **Reply #48 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:22 »

Also,

I overheard members of the 123RF Submission Email team discussing and investigating Jo Ann's query today. I believe they have sent a reply to Jo Ann as well.

We're always open to dialogue, do email us.

Thanks,

Alex.

click_click · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:30 »

I once actually got paid by Crestock so that they can use one of my images on their homepage.

I think those days are over...

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Author Topic: 100MB sale for $11.58 wow (Read 24732 times)

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