Author Topic: 123 new license option - Simply Stunning (Read 26822 times)

ShadySue · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2017, 15:55 »

Quote from: Semmick Photo on November 04, 2017, 14:20

Jeff HK, sailor and during his trips delivering cargo he shoots photos and videos. Amateur I'd say, probably the best time lapse you'll ever watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrCI9eSJGQ

I enjoyed it too, thanks.

KB · « **Reply #26 on:** November 05, 2017, 11:29 »

One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Chichikov · « **Reply #27 on:** November 05, 2017, 11:39 »

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29

One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur is a french word coming from the italian amatore, in latin amator which means "lover" (From amare "to love")

By extension an Amateur is somebody doing something because he loves (likes) to do it.

dpimborough · « **Reply #28 on:** November 05, 2017, 13:41 »

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29

One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur = a person who engages in a pursuit, especially a sport, on an unpaid basis

Plenty of amateurs produce extermely good work

Olympic sports athletes are amateurs

Asthebelltolls · « **Reply #29 on:** November 05, 2017, 14:17 »

Plenty of amateurs produce extermely good work. Olympic sports athletes are amateurs.

Better not tell all those "amateur" hockey players representing their countries in the Winter Olympics. Hockey players that are multi-millionaires playing in the NHL.

An amateur submitting video clips is a person who doesn't use a tripod. Has no idea what an "establishing shot" is or "pre-roll" footage. Pans and tilts simply for the sake of panning and tilting without using subject matter within the frame to change framing. ie. a bird in flight, traffic, pedestrians, water flowing, etc.

Yes. There are clips shot by people who have no background experience or expertise that are presentable to buyers....but the vast majority of clips that buyers have to wade through is cr"p.....pure and simple. And that`s the problem. Agencies like IS, SS and P5 are far more concerned with volume than they are with quality.

If a company hires professional cameramen and editors to produce their presentation, are they going to use amateur footage supplied by agencies.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #30 on:** November 06, 2017, 01:14 »

Quote from: Chichikov on November 05, 2017, 11:39

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29
One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur is a french word coming from the italian amatore, in latin amator which means "lover" (From amare "to love")

By extension an Amateur is somebody doing something because he loves (likes) to do it.

In French , using the word "Amateur" :
-as an adjective is pretty positive, means "who loves..."
-by saying "he is an amateur" is pretty negative, means he is doing b***s**t.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 06, 2017, 01:36 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on November 05, 2017, 13:41

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29
One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur = a person who engages in a pursuit, especially a sport, on an unpaid basis

Plenty of amateurs produce extermely good work

Olympic sports athletes are amateurs

Olympic sports people haven't even needed to pretend they are amateur for quite some time.

Chichikov · « **Reply #32 on:** November 06, 2017, 02:21 »

Quote from: Thomas from France on November 06, 2017, 01:14

Quote from: Chichikov on November 05, 2017, 11:39
Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29
One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur is a french word coming from the italian amatore, in latin amator which means "lover" (From amare "to love")

By extension an Amateur is somebody doing something because he loves (likes) to do it.

In French , using the word "Amateur" :
-as an adjective is pretty positive, means "who loves..."
-by saying "he is an amateur" is pretty negative, means he is doing b***s**t.

Exact Thomas.
I was just telling about the etymology and the primary meaning.

ShadySue · « **Reply #33 on:** November 06, 2017, 04:19 »

Quote from: Thomas from France on November 06, 2017, 01:14

Quote from: Chichikov on November 05, 2017, 11:39
Quote from: KB on November 05, 2017, 11:29
One of the meanings of the word amateur is:
a person inexperienced or unskilled in a particular activity

So, yes, 'amateur' can imply less quality based on that. However, based on what I've seen in stock photography and videography, as others have said, the word does not predict the level of quality at all.

Amateur is a french word coming from the italian amatore, in latin amator which means "lover" (From amare "to love")

By extension an Amateur is somebody doing something because he loves (likes) to do it.

In French , using the word "Amateur" :
-as an adjective is pretty positive, means "who loves..."
-by saying "he is an amateur" is pretty negative, means he is doing b***s**t.

But hereabouts "He's a true amateur" is very positive, meaning it's a labour of love.

ravens · « **Reply #34 on:** November 06, 2017, 06:56 »

Who is this Eric? Can someone give me his email please? In this "age of the creative economy" I would like him to send me some $$$ so I can stay relevant and make my life more exciting.

sarah2 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 06, 2017, 07:04 »

The issue of amateur,non amateur, semi-professional, professional who still loves their work etc has nothing to do with it.
We do not have sites for mega fee paying customers to 'drive' traffic to.
This is just another rung on the ladder to zero value for what we create and - in many cases - try to earn a living from.
Herrumph.

Clair Voyant · « **Reply #36 on:** November 06, 2017, 07:18 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 03, 2017, 11:11

It'd be great if 123RF paid 100% to us, and then we could donate to pay them if we though there was value.

The answer to this is very simple, if anyone has images with 123rf close the account immediately.

Fatmanphoto · « **Reply #37 on:** November 06, 2017, 09:34 »

I'm amazed no one picked up on the Bullsh*t Bingo phrase: "vision to create a Creative Ecosystem". Drivel.

GraniteCove · « **Reply #38 on:** November 06, 2017, 12:56 »

Quote from: OM on November 04, 2017, 08:57

Quote from: Semmick Photo on November 04, 2017, 00:58
You'll be surprised how many will give their stuff away and amateur content these days is very good.

Some of it isn't even amateur and there's method behind some of the madness...Unsplash Brooke Lark 80 food photos of decent quality:

https://unsplash.com/@brookelark

Behind the madness of 'free' is getting people and paid commissions to her Instagram account and pro-photo site (client list):

http://www.cheekykitchen.com/about/

Just another approach from a different angle.

Thanks for the links! I'd say her work is top notch. Definitely on trend stylistically and superbly executed. I am curious to know if this is actually successful for her or is it more a case of her respecting her own work enough not to be selling it for a pittance.

She's obviously one of the better shooters on the site, however just about everything on there is far superior to a lot of the stuff SS is ingesting at the moment. Maybe they all know something we don't.

niktol · « **Reply #39 on:** November 06, 2017, 17:41 »

Quote from: Fatmanphoto on November 06, 2017, 09:34

I'm amazed no one picked up on the Bullsh*t Bingo phrase: "vision to create a Creative Ecosystem". Drivel.

Ecosystem... Sounds about right. A part of a food chain.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #40 on:** November 06, 2017, 17:52 »

Quote from: Clair Voyant on November 06, 2017, 07:18

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 03, 2017, 11:11
It'd be great if 123RF paid 100% to us, and then we could donate to pay them if we though there was value.

The answer to this is very simple, if anyone has images with 123rf close the account immediately.

Don't you want to wait for the next exciting improvement there? Some day we will be able to pay them to host our images and then they can pay us a small percentage. That's next after free isn't it, or is FAA already making that plan work?

Amateur isn't a quality issue alone. There can be some who are very good and hundreds who produce junk and trash. Some might use the exposure to get clients. More of the people who will give away their work for free, are in the trash group. Those who depend on selling their work for income or a living should stay far away from this horrible scheme.

You are right, leaving is one way to do that. Don't keep supporting lame agency ideas that help them attract more traffic at our expense.

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