Author Topic: is 123rf a worthy-to-upload stock agence? (Read 13424 times)

whatwolf · « **on:** October 09, 2014, 00:22 »

is 123rf a worthy-to-upload stock agence?

CaptainYoung · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2014, 05:10 »

Shi'de!

Benozaur · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2014, 05:22 »

Not in my opinion.
I only do footage so can only speak for the video side.
They also issued a refund to a customer 3 months after a sale. Crappy royalties too.
I just don't like these people but thats just me...

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2014, 06:11 »

Not one of the worst. Their Royalty system at least has obtainable higher levels. Certainly more worthy than FL, DP or IS as far as I'm concerned.

Ariene · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2014, 06:25 »

No, it's not. But it used to be some time ago. Old good days gone.

disorderly · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2014, 07:34 »

For me it's been very good. 123rf has been my #2 seller for the past two years, and well ahead of #3.

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2014, 07:45 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on October 09, 2014, 06:11

Not one of the worst. Their Royalty system at least has obtainable higher levels. Certainly more worthy than FL, DP or IS as far as I'm concerned.

This is a very good summary. The only way I have been able to increase revenue is through video. Otherwise I have made $75 a month for 7 years no matter how many images I have. And what is very interesting to me is that my top sellers on SS and IS aren't the top sellers on 123. But they are fairly consistent.

Anja02 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2014, 23:26 »

All of a sudden since the IS changes came in, my 123RF DLs have increased considerably - now they are on par with DT and FT.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2014, 00:15 »

They start off paying 22 cents for subs sales - I would not bother. They used to be good before putting in the RC system but now they are not worth bothering about until you have a very large portfolio - they should not be supported when paying so low. If you go up a couple of levels then they are OK but not at the beginning.

Nic99 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2014, 02:02 »

Yes, sales are picking up, pay out every month. Lots of credit sales.

Gel-O Shooter · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2014, 11:40 »

One of my best selling photos across all agencies just sold for 14 cents (and it wasn't even a sub sale). This is why 123 doesn't get my "good stuff" anymore.

jefftakespics2 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2014, 12:08 »

I tried but the sales were to meagre for me to continue the effort. I'm happy others have had more success.

oboy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2014, 12:44 »

I like 123RF. 123RF is for me most of the time better then FT, DT, and BS.

Dragomir Nikolov · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2014, 15:59 »

No, waste of time. Dont waste your time with 123rf!

dpimborough · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2014, 16:37 »

Quote from: disorderly on October 09, 2014, 07:34

For me it's been very good. 123rf has been my #2 seller for the past two years, and well ahead of #3.

That's because you have lots of naked ladies in your port

PixelBytes · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2014, 16:42 »

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on October 10, 2014, 16:37

Quote from: disorderly on October 09, 2014, 07:34
For me it's been very good. 123rf has been my #2 seller for the past two years, and well ahead of #3.

That's because you have lots of naked ladies in your port

I got no naked ladies and I do okay there. I have some naked dogs tho. Maybe that's the reason?

Cesar · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2014, 17:17 »

on 123rf you have limited enterprise licence, you got 2,3$ for extended licence. thats a big shame. subs are paid very low, on demand also.

iam reading article , coffee in new york could be 10$, we get 2.3$ for extended licence, what a disaster. and nobody complain..... second disaster

gcrook · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2014, 18:17 »

How about video footage?What are the royalties for hd and 4k does anyone have personal experience with sales and commission at 123rf?
I have subscribed but i've been postponing to upload there.

Mantis · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2014, 19:10 »

Quote from: gcrook on October 10, 2014, 18:17

How about video footage?What are the royalties for hd and 4k does anyone have personal experience with sales and commission at 123rf?
I have subscribed but i've been postponing to upload there.

the few i have gotten have been in the $20 range.....low $20's.

gcrook · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2014, 20:09 »

Quote from: Mantis on October 10, 2014, 19:10

Quote from: gcrook on October 10, 2014, 18:17
How about video footage?What are the royalties for hd and 4k does anyone have personal experience with sales and commission at 123rf?
I have subscribed but i've been postponing to upload there.

the few i have gotten have been in the $20 range.....low $20's.

That doesn't seem so bad.These are SS level commissions.May i ask mantis how do sales there fare to other agencies? (dont know if you upload to p5 or ss or any others)

stocked · « **Reply #20 on:** October 11, 2014, 03:29 »

In general sales are okay but not great (it's about 10-20% of SS for me), unfortunately some of their pricing strategy is undercutting the market which is very disturbing! But at least they are open about it and don't play dirty tricks like Deposhit and Fotolia does all the time. I do hold back some of my bestsellers on other sites back so they can't undercut it.

Mellimage · « **Reply #21 on:** October 11, 2014, 04:07 »

No, they aren't worth uploading - at least in my book.

They were consistently the agency with the lowest RPI and lowest RPD, have an intransparent credit system - where credit values in Dollars can be very low - I received an Extended license sale where the license must have been sold for 27USD - I received about 9. When I deleted a file I found the file still in the system a year later - even though it was gone from my portfolio (and I had alerted them to the problem and asked them to remove the file earlier as well). This eroded my trust in the agency, I left.

borg · « **Reply #22 on:** October 11, 2014, 07:53 »

123RF becomes one of my three the best agencies lately, so I recommend them for sure...

whatwolf · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2014, 02:18 »

here is my stock-sum-sheet(whatever it is called)

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2014, 04:50 »

Quote from: whatwolf on October 13, 2014, 02:18

here is my stock-sum-sheet(whatever it is called)

Thanks for posting that, what is the third on the list in Chinese please?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2014, 13:41 »

If you make $50 a month on SS you might make $5 a month on 123RF. Or easier, assuming you have all the same images on SS as 123RF you might make in a year, what you get per month from SS.

I won't say anything against them, but just be aware, it's not a big agency and doesn't pay huge amounts. Decide for yourself if it's worth the effort. I thought the operations and people were honest and fair.

Here's something else, if people are looking at the poll on the right and thinking, "I could make that number..."

SS - 2012
149 authors have portfolio with more than 10 000 works
5% of the SS people have 2000 or more images
The poll numbers on the right, appear to represent the top 5% of Microstock earners/artists.

So if you are one of the 5% and better, you can probably earn what the poll on the right shows, or better. Which in other words means, if you are the other 95% that poll doesn't reflect what you will make.

Back to relativity. You will probably make 8-10% of SS and 15-20% of what you make at IS, with the identical images on 123RF. Because of buyer diversity and demands it could be less. But using the poll you can at least estimate what could happen and decide from that.

What we don't know is how many poll people here, are only on the top two or top four, and how many have 20,000 images and are on all the sites reported, which makes those numbers look better than they will ever be for anyone else.

What do I mean? in 2012, 22 people on SS had over 30,000 images online. If a couple of those people/agencies are participating in the poll here, that would surely make all the place they submit to, look much better than they are. (also why Leaf has an earnings cap to prevent wild big numbers from distorting the results)

pancaketom · « **Reply #26 on:** October 16, 2014, 22:54 »

Also if you have a small portfolio and a small number of sales you will be at a lower level and make a much smaller percent of each sale. It takes a whole lot of sales to get back up to the 50% they used to have.

Rinderart · « **Reply #27 on:** October 19, 2014, 19:17 »

questions like this are hard to answer. Like every site, sales are about the work, commercial value ,diversity and numbers. 123 is very good for me and worth the time. so Impossible to answer. If ya have a few thousand?...upload is easy to test for yourself. I would and do. having a few hundred images anywhere shouldn't determine a Honest response for advice from anyone.

DallasP · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2014, 11:01 »

I don't think I've had one single sale on 123rf this year.

cascoly · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2014, 13:56 »

123 has shown a steady increase this year of 60-100% over last year, with portfolio increase of about 50%. (SS income increased about 10% with portfolio growth of about 30%) 123 are now usually my #2 after SS . part of this may be due to their generous definition (and sales) of editorial images. also (if you choose the option) they AUTOMATICALLY consider any rejected image for editorial so submission is very easy

Rage · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2014, 14:14 »

This is my third best selling site after istock and shutterstock. The best part is the easy submission especially for editorial images.

Still way behind the leaders but the sales here are more consistent and regular than even dreamstime

stockmarketer · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2014, 14:35 »

Cesar · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2014, 14:56 »

Dont upload to 123rf, you get 1/10 what you get on ss for EL sale.

subs for beginner is .21$

MilanLipowski · « **Reply #33 on:** October 26, 2014, 06:23 »

Some people will say NO, and then they are quietly uploading, lol

lionheart · « **Reply #34 on:** October 26, 2014, 07:11 »

I am just building my portfolio there. Up to now sales are slow. As others said you get 0.21 $ for a sale when being at starter level.
Nevertheless friendly people over there, two days ago one of my newly uploaded files has been inspected within two minutes

Noedelhap · « **Reply #35 on:** October 29, 2014, 19:43 »

They've cut commissions in the past by introducing a RC-like scheme, claiming they'd double sales. Which never happened. So to that extent, they can't really be trusted.

The revenue is okay, RPD average. They're my 5th agency.

Maximilian · « **Reply #36 on:** October 29, 2014, 20:33 »

123rf, canstock, indivstock, photodune, kozzi

All okay and without any need to choose category or similar work.
Worth to upload? I don`t know. I sell in as many ways as possible.

amabu · « **Reply #37 on:** October 30, 2014, 02:13 »

Quote from: Maximilian on October 29, 2014, 20:33

123rf, canstock, indivstock, photodune, kozzi

All okay and without any need to choose category or similar work.
Worth to upload? I don`t know. I sell in as many ways as possible.

Have you sold ANYTHING on indivstock?

Maximilian · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2014, 02:59 »

yes at all
123rf best, canstock 2nd, photodune 3rd, kozzi 4th, indivstock 5th

roede-orm · « **Reply #39 on:** October 31, 2014, 14:42 »

In the light of the newly discovered Inmagin-123RF deal nobody can honestly recommend to join 123RF

Maximilian · « **Reply #40 on:** October 31, 2014, 14:42 »

that`s true

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #41 on:** November 01, 2014, 10:06 »

Why can't I find a link to all my images on 123 for editing keywords, descriptions, or like an overall list of what's uploaded there?

eta: I see you can't edit images after they are accepted, but is there no way to get a list of all your images, like on DP?

disorderly · « **Reply #42 on:** November 01, 2014, 10:15 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 01, 2014, 10:06

Why can't I find a link to all my images on 123 for editing keywords, descriptions, or like an overall list of what's uploaded there?

Two ways to get to your images:

Under For Contributors, click on History. Then from the Summary matrix, click on Accepted. You can page through your approved images. Looks like you can edit there as well.

Under For Contributors, click on More. Then click on Followed. You'll get a display of your approved images in (imperfect) order of number of downloads. You can nominate a 5% subset for better placement in searches.

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