Author Topic: 123rf sharing commissions with parent company Inmagine (Read 30088 times)

PixelBytes · « **Reply #75 on:** November 03, 2014, 13:47 »

How do you opt out of the API?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #76 on:** November 03, 2014, 13:48 »

http://www.123rf.com/myaccount_v2.php

PixelBytes · « **Reply #77 on:** November 03, 2014, 13:50 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on November 03, 2014, 13:48

http://www.123rf.com/myaccount_v2.php

Thank you

fotorob · « **Reply #78 on:** November 04, 2014, 04:47 »

Quote from: Maximilian on November 03, 2014, 13:37

maybe there are your images too: http://dubistock.com/
the same game..

Why do you think it is the same game?
Dubistock does not seem to belong to Inmagine?

Maximilian · « **Reply #79 on:** November 04, 2014, 05:17 »

Is only an assumption:
"The water mark is the same as the value 10 on collection Inmagine (the stuff mirrored from 123rf)" thread: http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/dubistock/msg398513/?topicseen#new

philipus · « **Reply #80 on:** November 04, 2014, 05:24 »

Quote from: fotorob on November 04, 2014, 04:47

Quote from: Maximilian on November 03, 2014, 13:37
maybe there are your images too: http://dubistock.com/
the same game..

Why do you think it is the same game?
Dubistock does not seem to belong to Inmagine?

Looks like it does. See the copyright watermark on the images at dubistock - they are the same like at inmagine.

philipus · « **Reply #81 on:** November 04, 2014, 05:28 »

I got an answer email from 123rf support regarding my opt out question:

"Thank you for your email.

Kindly note that the removal of your portfolio once you have opt out from the API Partner Program will take around 2-3 days.

In regards to your portfolio from Inmagine, we are currently working on making the opt out from inmagine feature available in 123rf. Please give us some time to make the feature available.

Hope this clarifies. Should you have any more inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Have a nice day!

Best regards,
Your Submissions & Review Team"

My images are not at Inmagine any more and I also cannot see any of my images at dubistock.

GooDween · « **Reply #82 on:** November 04, 2014, 06:01 »

also write them to opt out from these sites.
and still no royalty rate tab for us. looks like they don't care.

Cesar · « **Reply #83 on:** November 04, 2014, 06:03 »

this is not correct solution, everyone should be opt out, 123rf shoud ask if you want to participate!

GooDween · « **Reply #84 on:** November 05, 2014, 09:41 »

they reply to my mail, ask for time to make button for opt out.

Red On · « **Reply #85 on:** November 07, 2014, 18:18 »

I was director of a news photo agency before digital. The question of royalties shared among agencies is an old issue. I had staff and contributors. Staff were paid by percentage plus a contribution to the expenses without possibility to opt out from the partners' distribution; contributors had same royalties, no participation to expenses and the right to opt out. The regular share was 50-50, the PP share was 30-30-40 (fourty for the photographer). Staff photographer was fully exclusive, contributor was exclusive only by picture. Average price for a photograph was $275. No cheat, no backdoor. Today is corrupted the whole market.

I can't be sure that my earning is directly related with the amount of downloads. I mean that I have no meaning to check if my 50 cents are just 50 or the picture have generated more revenue. I have to trust the agency. But after all the posts in this thread, I started to have a bug in my mind: may I really trust in every agency?

PZF · « **Reply #86 on:** November 08, 2014, 04:34 »

So do we actually KNOW who Dubi(ou?)stock is connected with?

Red On · « **Reply #87 on:** November 08, 2014, 14:37 »

with my test keywords (laser green research) I found the same pictures of Inmagine

fotorob · « **Reply #88 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:42 »

@Red On: Partner distribution is one thing, as good or as bad as it gets.

But doing "partner" distribution within the same company and deducting royalties all along the way, is an entirely different thing and I hope it is quite new...

Red On · « **Reply #89 on:** November 17, 2014, 08:25 »

Quote from: fotorob on November 17, 2014, 07:42

@Red On: Partner distribution is one thing, as good or as bad as it gets.

But doing "partner" distribution within the same company and deducting royalties all along the way, is an entirely different thing and I hope it is quite new...

Yes Rob,
I'm saying almost the same of you, but I would like to add that partners of the same shareholders selling same pictures, cutting royalties, means fraud.

corepics · « **Reply #90 on:** December 04, 2014, 15:34 »

Bump.

Has anyone heard of the promised solution? I still hope Alex, or anyone from 123RF will chime in again, as they promised me by email, to address the unresolved issues.

roede-orm · « **Reply #91 on:** December 04, 2014, 18:06 »

Still waiting. But it's not forgotten.

alex123rf · « **Reply #92 on:** December 07, 2014, 20:45 »

Hi everyone,

With regards to:
1. Not accepted at Inmagine IRIS if you are a contributor 123RF - it simply means that Inmagine's IRIS does not accept microstock images under a premium pricing. If you produce 2 levels of content, you are welcome to send in your micro priced content to 123RF and sell your higher priced images under Inmagine's IRIS.
2. More transparency and better reporting - our IT team is trying their best to update the contributor's section of the site. It's been a challenge and they will come around to it.
3. We've fixed the Reseller API so that if you've opted out, it will no longer show in any of our API Partner's results. Certain results have been cached by various CDNs so you might still see results especially if you keep on revisiting the results pages.
4. Our aim is to increase sales for everyone, certain partners have different working models and we have to adapt to their business models - if you have opted out, you won't be included in the program.

I hope this addresses some of your concerns. Do write in or email us if you need more information.

Thanks,

Alex.

Mantis · « **Reply #93 on:** December 08, 2014, 09:02 »

Quote from: alex123rf on December 07, 2014, 20:45

Hi everyone,

With regards to:
1. Not accepted at Inmagine IRIS if you are a contributor 123RF - it simply means that Inmagine's IRIS does not accept microstock images under a premium pricing. If you produce 2 levels of content, you are welcome to send in your micro priced content to 123RF and sell your higher priced images under Inmagine's IRIS.
2. More transparency and better reporting - our IT team is trying their best to update the contributor's section of the site. It's been a challenge and they will come around to it.
3. We've fixed the Reseller API so that if you've opted out, it will no longer show in any of our API Partner's results. Certain results have been cached by various CDNs so you might still see results especially if you keep on revisiting the results pages.
4. Our aim is to increase sales for everyone, certain partners have different working models and we have to adapt to their business models - if you have opted out, you won't be included in the program.

I hope this addresses some of your concerns. Do write in or email us if you need more information.

Thanks,

Alex.

4. Our aim is to increase sales for ~~everyone,~~ all of our partners and 123, but they have different working models that 123 needs to manipulate to maximize our profits - if you have opted out, you won't help us achieve that goal.

This is really what has been happening across most micros.

panicAttack · « **Reply #94 on:** December 08, 2014, 10:47 »

I found my images on dubistock, whose site is that?

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