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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2011, 10:51 »
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Well I've just had my BME on 123  ;D

It is my number 3 agency now, with SS first, DT second, I don't upload to IS anymore, and I've stopped uploading to FT when they cut the commission last time around.

123rf is almost taking over DT's place for me now too - so keep up the good work, it is paying off - well at least for me.

Good to see it up in the Top Tier in the Poll Results right now.  :)


« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2011, 11:25 »
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1- Putting 123RF in the Top Tier just doesn't reflect reality as I know it.

2- Are the majority of people here REALLY earning more on 123 than on FT?  

1- No, It does! For me 123rf does much better than fotolia

2- Yes, otherwise why would we vote them into top tier just for the fun of it :)

« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2011, 16:53 »
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1- Putting 123RF in the Top Tier just doesn't reflect reality as I know it.

2- Are the majority of people here REALLY earning more on 123 than on FT?  

1- No, It does! For me 123rf does much better than fotolia

2- Yes, otherwise why would we vote them into top tier just for the fun of it :)

For me 123 has jumped about $20 a month after the last Istock debacle.  But it is still 1/2 of Fotolia's monthly income.  I look at stuff in terms of repeatability, so I don't get a boner when I have a good month.  Rather I wait to see if the next 6-12 months repeat before I would claim a rise (no pun intended) in status to top tier.

« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2011, 17:46 »
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YTD my sales at FT and 123 are just about the same with 123 ahead by a few dollars but if you look at just the last 3 months, 123 is more than double the sales I've been getting at FT.  RPD at FT is just $0.35 for those three months whereas RPD for 123 over the same timeframe is $0.87.  I've seen a definate trend of one site moving down and the other moving up over the past few months.

« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 00:46 »
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I would be interested to know if people doing better with 123rf than FT have a lot more images with 123rf?  Or perhaps it's because FT are selling a lot of old images and all the newer contributors are having more success with 123rf?

I still sell a lot more with FT but they are on a downward trend.  123rf had never been a big earner for me, it's often behind BigStock.

« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 01:00 »
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I would be interested to know if people doing better with 123rf than FT have a lot more images with 123rf?  Or perhaps it's because FT are selling a lot of old images and all the newer contributors are having more success with 123rf?

I still sell a lot more with FT but they are on a downward trend.  123rf had never been a big earner for me, it's often behind BigStock.

I wondered about the new photography theory.

Fotolia seems to sell a small set of images lots, but if you don't have images in that small subset, you won't get very good sales there.  If that good selling subset is old images from 'old' photographers then new photographers would see a lot better results at 123RF.  interesting none the less, for me last month 123RF earned 1/4 of what Fotolia earned

lagereek

« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 01:01 »
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I would be interested to know if people doing better with 123rf than FT have a lot more images with 123rf?  Or perhaps it's because FT are selling a lot of old images and all the newer contributors are having more success with 123rf?

I still sell a lot more with FT but they are on a downward trend.  123rf had never been a big earner for me, it's often behind BigStock.


Same here. FT,  is lightyears ahead 123,  in just about everything.  I think 123rf, is the kind of agency that attracts ordinary shots, plenty of generic material but the minute you give their reviewers something they dont really understand, well then they chose not to understand.
My revenues from FT, was abot 10 times that of 123.

« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 01:01 »
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It's often said that:  "A happy workforce is a productive worfkorce" - and I'm sure we all know that's true.

So it must follow that:  A happy supplier is a productive supplier

Conversely, an UNhappy supplier, will simply become demotivated, and end up as an ex-supplier.

Thanks 123RF for being on the side of keeping us happy :)  With all the good news this week from three agencies, I'm feeling MUCH more motivated to produce more and better work - all of it will go to the suppliers who value their contributors, and no-one else.

It's kind of funny (peculiar) that crowd-sourcing was borne out of an understanding of human behaviour, and yet some of the other agencies seem to have no concept of human behaviour at this point in the game.  Even if we try to tell them 'til we're blue in the face.  Personally, I think they should stop reading these frickin' war-style business books and start reading 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'.  Also, studying a bit of motivation theory wouldn't go amiss.
I agree.  I think some of the big microstock sites are acting like they are the only place to buy and sell images.  They might of been squeezed by their investors and have little choice but to try and take money from us.  Luckily, there is still some healthy competition and some sites have realised that keeping their contributors and buyers happy is the best way to build their business.  I wonder if the sites that have lost a lot of contributors and buyers goodwill can change their strategy or are they just going to continue until it's too late?

Microbius

« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 01:39 »
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Just to add my vote, 123 overtook FT for the first time for me last month too

« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 02:23 »
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123RF is increasing every day and FT is going down every day.

same for me, 123 earnt me more last month than FT

« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 04:23 »
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It's stange because I had a particularly bad month on 123rf.  I'm not seeing the love that the rest of you are :(
Bigstock made up for it though by giving me a BME with a 50% rise on my previous BME.

« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2011, 04:26 »
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I would be interested to know if people doing better with 123rf than FT have a lot more images with 123rf?  Or perhaps it's because FT are selling a lot of old images and all the newer contributors are having more success with 123rf?

I still sell a lot more with FT but they are on a downward trend.  123rf had never been a big earner for me, it's often behind BigStock.

I have more images on FT and 123rf still sells better..

rubyroo

« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 04:32 »
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I have more at 123RF, but that's mainly because it took me aeons to figure out FT's acceptance criteria.

Of images produced in the last year-and-a-half, it'd be about the same.

I think Tyler makes a very good point here about only selling a subset of the whole port.  That's certainly true for me - and if your subset is vastly more popular with FT's buyers than mine, that would explain it perfectly, no?

@ Fotografer - maybe it just takes a while for the 'love' to reach into every corner.  Hopefully it will reach you soon!  :)

« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2011, 04:34 »
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Really odd that 123RF pushed down Fotolia.
Last month was my BME at 123rf, but still earnings there were only 20% of my Fotolia earnings that same month. I would never have guessed other people are seeing such great results with 123RF compared to FT

Slovenian

« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2011, 04:53 »
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 Are the majority of people here REALLY earning more on 123 than on FT?  

Yes!  ;D  (well... I can only speak for me, obviously)

ETA:  OK, I've just done my figures.  This month I made two-and-a-half times more at 123RF.

YES! 3x more in my case. I'll support them as long as they don't make cuts. After that I have no love for them whatsoever

« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 06:11 »
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it is still a middle tier for me. It's doing constantly better than bigstock for the last few months, but is constantly behind IS, SS, DT, FL (few times less earnings). I do however hear from some people outside this forum that 123rf is performing very well for them, like a top tier agency.

« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 06:24 »
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@ Fotografer - maybe it just takes a while for the 'love' to reach into every corner.  Hopefully it will reach you soon!  :)
LOL I hope you are right

« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2011, 10:27 »
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Here's a tip: have your used your faved allocation?

http://www.123rf.com/myfavimages.php

How this works is that it'll float your top 5% good images right up to the top of the search results.

Will work well for everyone!

When you get seen, you'll sell more :)

Alex.


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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 10:51 »
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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 12:01 »
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I would never have guessed other people are seeing such great results with 123RF compared to FT

Or maybe we are seeing such awful results at fotolia which makes 123rf look great :)

« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2011, 00:29 »
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I have only been contributing for 9 months but to date, FT only constitutes 3% of my earnings where as 123RF constitutes 17% there are approximately 25% more images in my 123RF portfolio than my FT portfolio.

Even my IStock revenue outstrips FT by a ratio of 3:1 and I only managed to get on there 5 months ago with the restrictive 18 image a week upload to contend with also.

I have no idea who sells at FT but I have seen nothing to give me a glimmer of hope over the lsat 9 months as a new contributor, 123RF on the other hand just keepp on motorin'.

lagereek

« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2011, 01:28 »
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I have only been contributing for 9 months but to date, FT only constitutes 3% of my earnings where as 123RF constitutes 17% there are approximately 25% more images in my 123RF portfolio than my FT portfolio.

Even my IStock revenue outstrips FT by a ratio of 3:1 and I only managed to get on there 5 months ago with the restrictive 18 image a week upload to contend with also.

I have no idea who sells at FT but I have seen nothing to give me a glimmer of hope over the lsat 9 months as a new contributor, 123RF on the other hand just keepp on motorin'.


Yes but,  really,  with sites like SS, IS, DT and FT,  you really need a much bigger portfolio, you know,  when you reach around a thousand images, you get a good idea of the various percentages.

« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2011, 02:01 »
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I have only been contributing for 9 months but to date, FT only constitutes 3% of my earnings where as 123RF constitutes 17% there are approximately 25% more images in my 123RF portfolio than my FT portfolio.

Even my IStock revenue outstrips FT by a ratio of 3:1 and I only managed to get on there 5 months ago with the restrictive 18 image a week upload to contend with also.

I have no idea who sells at FT but I have seen nothing to give me a glimmer of hope over the lsat 9 months as a new contributor, 123RF on the other hand just keepp on motorin'.


Yes but,  really,  with sites like SS, IS, DT and FT,  you really need a much bigger portfolio, you know,  when you reach around a thousand images, you get a good idea of the various percentages.

I agree whole heartedly, my portfolio is growing at a fairly rapid rate so making any valued judgements at the moment is difficult but can only speak from my experience, maybe after another 12months and a full trip through an annual cycle I may have a better understanding :)

In terms of the larger sites my portfolio sizes and sales revenue % for the last month read.

500 123RF 15.8%
400 DT 12.5%
350 FT 3.3%
270 SS 40.8%
200 IS 21.6%

CD123

« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2011, 07:27 »
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Had my BME with 123RF in Sept. - also evened total number of images sold on FT in 10 months in this 1 month on 123RF.  Have submitted exactly the same images to both - port. at FT 262 - port. at 123RF 824. 123RF also outperformed FT with average income per image.
In my view 123RF deserves their position above FT over and over.

« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2011, 07:08 »
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Just wondering if Top Tier is some sort of automated classification? Or manually managed?
I still feel there should be Big 5 actually. SS, IS, DT, FT and 123RF are top 5 agencies, and others are a little bit behind.
Interesting to see how it all adds up next month. Sales are picking up everywhere.
Also I can't wait to see PhotoDune in Middle Tier. :) When we start to see stats of that agency?


 

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