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Started by thx9000, February 01, 2018, 18:05

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thx9000

Anyone noticed  the change in their profile ? My 12 month total hasn't changed much but I dropped from fourth to second level .

Minsc

#1
I just noticed it as well. Maybe it's a glitch and it'll go back to normal tomorrow. Maybe they've increased the requirements for each level and they're looking to screw over contributors.

THP Creative

Same here. Have sent an email. Unless I have forgotten, it seems they have changed the royalty page: https://www.123rf.com/contrib_structure.php - there is nothing mentioned about what is required for each tier. That's scary.
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sgoodwin4813

Mine showed a drop in level as well, which if true will cause me to drop them.

Photobomb

This is a screen shot of the table from Sept 2 2016; From the Wayback Machine:

Tay

Quote from: PhotoBomb on February 02, 2018, 02:04
This is a screen shot of the table from Sept 2 2016; From the Wayback Machine:
I'm 100% sure that they cut commisions even without informing the contributors.

thx9000

I have some subscriptions from yesterday at 0.288 instead of the usual 0.324 . So it's not a bug apparently . They just left us find out for ourselves . Very smooth ,123rf .

kaboom

I dropped from level 5 to level 3. I have a bit over 5000 points. Yesterday I still had subscription sales for 0.36 dollars (like before).

thx9000

They merged some levels so some people will get a drop and some won't . Here's the old level structure - https://blog.123rf.com/2-6-royalties-commissions-payment/ . The new one has already been posted here although the credit targets are missing . The way they are handling this is totally unacceptable . I won't be uploading there anytime soon .

thx9000

I changed the title with something more appropriate

BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: thx9000 on February 02, 2018, 07:53
They merged some levels so some people will get a drop and some won't . Here's the old level structure - https://blog.123rf.com/2-6-royalties-commissions-payment/ . The new one has already been posted here although the credit targets are missing . The way they are handling this is totally unacceptable . I won't be uploading there anytime soon .

I stopped uploading there when they awarded themselves a commission rise at my expense because they weren't marketing my work as well as they had in the past. I don't believe in rewarding failure.

Justanotherphotographer

I panicked when I saw that my comission level dropped. But I think with the merged bands I àm actually making the same percentage? Anyway, very low trick to pull this without informing us first.

Tay

They remove 35% and 45% levels and everyone who was on this two levels are one level down and have lower commission. This is so unfair

Stockmaan

Less uploads there and that is it..

THP Creative

Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 08:51
They remove 35% and 45% levels and everyone who was on this two levels are one level down and have lower commission. This is so unfair

So it would seem anyone in the old Tier 4 bracket, which I am guessing would have been a LOT of people, have lost 5% on credit sales, and 4cents on every subscription overnight with no explanation. 123Rf - Care to explain?
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BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: Microstock Man on February 02, 2018, 15:18
Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 08:51
They remove 35% and 45% levels and everyone who was on this two levels are one level down and have lower commission. This is so unfair

So it would seem anyone in the old Tier 4 bracket, which I am guessing would have been a LOT of people, have lost 5% on credit sales, and 4cents on every subscription overnight with no explanation. 123Rf - Care to explain?

Except your maths is wrong, going from 35% to 30% commission isn't a 5% loss, it's roughly 15%.

THP Creative

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 02, 2018, 15:58
Quote from: Microstock Man on February 02, 2018, 15:18
Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 08:51
They remove 35% and 45% levels and everyone who was on this two levels are one level down and have lower commission. This is so unfair

So it would seem anyone in the old Tier 4 bracket, which I am guessing would have been a LOT of people, have lost 5% on credit sales, and 4cents on every subscription overnight with no explanation. 123Rf - Care to explain?

Except your maths is wrong, going from 35% to 30% commission isn't a 5% loss, it's roughly 15%.

Public school.... :( haha I see what you're saying, I was more trying to say on the old chart I received 45% of a credit sale, now its 40%.

But more importantly - we need an answer from 123RF on this pronto.
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Sean Locke Photography

Where's the current chart of what falls into what category?  All I can find is this: https://www.123rf.com/contrib_structure.php

cthoman

Quote from: thx9000 on February 02, 2018, 07:53
They merged some levels so some people will get a drop and some won't . Here's the old level structure - https://blog.123rf.com/2-6-royalties-commissions-payment/ . The new one has already been posted here although the credit targets are missing . The way they are handling this is totally unacceptable . I won't be uploading there anytime soon .

Yeah, they aren't even showing the targets. It definitely looks like another money grab. Just squeeze a little bit out of all the contributors.
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Justanotherphotographer

Don't think they're telling, but you can check your own rank on the Dashboard page. I was level 6 now level 4.

Zero Talent

#20
Quote from: kaboom on February 02, 2018, 07:48
I dropped from level 5 to level 3. I have a bit over 5000 points. Yesterday I still had subscription sales for 0.36 dollars (like before).

Same here: dropped from level 5 to 3, but I still sold .36 subs, today.
I'm still at 50% as per this new table.
So, no change for me.

Sean Locke Photography

#21
Well, I was a level 3 I guess with 1400 credits, and now it says I'm a level 2, but according to both charts, I'm still making 40% & .28 ?

cthoman

I guess the 4 to 2 contributors were the big losers. Lucky me.
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cthoman

I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

5,000 – 19,999 Level 3
50%
$0.360

20,000 – 49,999 Level 4
52%
$0.374

50,000 – 99,999 Level 5
54%
$0.389

100,000 – 499,999 Level 6
56%
$0.403

500,000 – 999,999 Level 7
58%
$0.418

1,000,000 and above Level 8
60%
$0.432
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Asthebelltolls

....and of course, you all now know now what " currently down for maintenance" means.  And you're still contributing to this "agency"?