Author Topic: Editorial on 123RF (Read 20896 times)

RT · « **on:** January 19, 2010, 05:34 »

Just had an email announcement from 123RF saying they're accepting editorial images, it started with the line:

Yes, it's good news for those of you who've been waiting for this moment. 123RF.com is now accepting editorial content.

Hands up anybody that's been waiting for this moment

It mentions in the email that they want un-model released street scenes, do any of the other micros that take editorial accept street scenes?

leaf · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2010, 05:39 »

ahh.. you beat me to it

here is the full email

Quote

Yes, it's good news for those of you who've been waiting for this moment. 123RF.com is now accepting editorial content. We would like to invite you to upload your editorial images or illustrations to us. Here's how:

Go to http://submit.123rf.com/submit/upload_step1.php (you may have to login first!)
Select 'Editorial'. Click on 'Continue' to begin your upload.
Next, select the number of images that you wish to upload. Only web form upload is available for now. (FTP will be added later on!)
Next, select the images that you wish to upload to us AS EDITORIAL MATERIAL only.
Click the "Upload" button to start the upload process.
Once the images have been uploaded, next, describe and keyword your uploaded images. There's a guide on how you should be describing your images on this page. Do kindly abide by the guide and we'll accept your images accordingly.
When done describing and keywording your images, simply click on the 'Save' button and your images will be sent to the pending queue for our reviewers.
What happens next?
Images will be accepted and reviewed now. However, they will not appear immediately on the site. Once we have sufficient content, we will then launch the editorial content on 123RF.com. We anticipate this to happen at the end of February 2010.

Here are a few guidelines to be followed:
==========================================

What are classified as editorial images?
Editorial images are generally photos or illustrations of newsworthy events, or famous people or locations with people often without model releases. These images can and are often used only in Editorial publications such as newspapers, magazines, news articles, academic publications and sometimes used in news related TV footage.

What we want!

social events & other newsworthy events
celebrities, personalities and interesting people
live sports and music events
world events and natural disasters
cultural celebrations
street scenes
certain images portraying social issues

What we don't want!

Images which are not editorial/newsworthy in nature
Images which are too similar to other/previously submitted content
Images which are not described in a proper manner (you'll need to rekeyword/describe them)
Images which are sold elsewhere as RF/RM commercial
Images which are offensive or lewd in nature
Images which are not technically sound
too blur,
grainy,
have been manipulated heavily or
clearly does not depict the subject matter in a truthful manner due to image cloning, retouching, photo montaging and etc.

Thank you and happy uploading! We look forward to receiving your editorial content soon!

Team 123RF.com

epixx · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:25 »

Good news. My editorial sales elsewhere are increasing.

luder / Luís Brás · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2010, 10:06 »

Quote from: leaf on January 19, 2010, 05:39

What we don't want!

Images which are sold elsewhere as RF/RM commercial

Looks like they want exclusivity on editorial.

FD · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2010, 11:44 »

Quote from: luder on January 19, 2010, 10:06

Images which are sold elsewhere as RF/RM commercial
Looks like they want exclusivity on editorial.

No, they mention commercial, not editorial.

I don't think I will upload my editorial to them. First of all it all needs rekeywording and their sales don't justify that. I had too many rejects lately of 5DII images that were even accepted at iStock. Support told me they got more stringent on their image requirements. That's fine: another Crestock then = low sales, too selective. I can't bother to rekeyword and then have 50% rejected.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2010, 14:05 »

Quote from: RT on January 19, 2010, 05:34

It mentions in the email that they want un-model released street scenes, do any of the other micros that take editorial accept street scenes?

Hi Richard, certainly DT/SS/BigStock/YAY and not forgetting Picturenation here in the UK (once they are back online) do take street scenes. I've just recently put up some of Hampstead, London, in the snow). I'm not with 123RF at the moment, but will certainly be looking at them now. I wonder if all micro sites will eventually take editorial? I would love to see Istock do that! Regards, David.

FD · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2010, 14:22 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on January 19, 2010, 14:05

and not forgetting Picturenation here in the UK (once they are back online)

They won't. And if ever, current street scenes will look like archeology.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2010, 15:03 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on January 19, 2010, 14:22

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on January 19, 2010, 14:05
and not forgetting Picturenation here in the UK (once they are back online)
They won't. And if ever, current street scenes will look like archeology.

LOL

Love it Flemish! There I go "pampering the dead" again (still think that would make a brilliant name for a rock/goth band). Seriously though, I have been in direct contact with them in the last week. They are working flat out to get the site back up. No firm date yet but I am quite assured from what they told me that it is happening. Mind you, with the amount of shops going out of business in the UK, a street scene from last week could look like archeology

Kind regards, David.

RT · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2010, 16:24 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on January 19, 2010, 14:05

Hi Richard, certainly DT/SS/BigStock/YAY and not forgetting Picturenation here in the UK (once they are back online) do take street scenes. I've just recently put up some of Hampstead, London, in the snow). I'm not with 123RF at the moment, but will certainly be looking at them now. I wonder if all micro sites will eventually take editorial? I would love to see Istock do that! Regards, David.

Thanks for the reply David, editorial is not something I'd considered for micros, I don't do that sort of stuff but the small amount of editorial that I do take I put on Alamy, for someone with your background is it something you think will take off or are you testing the water.

vonkara · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2010, 16:41 »

Now when Istock will make the move... Never I know, they don't want to compete for Getty

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2010, 17:07 »

Quote from: Vonkara on January 19, 2010, 16:41

Now when Istock will make the move... Never I know, they don't want to compete for Getty

Hmmm... good point -- maybe? Is SS in competition with Corbis? Aren't nearly all micros a subsidiary?

I'm still trying to understand just which images could be editorial? Are books, reference material, educational materials considered editorial?

cascoly · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2010, 19:59 »

i've had good results with editorial on SS , DT and BigStock - it's annoying sometmes what's considered newsworthy, bt overall my editorial portfolios are smaller than RF but produce a greater % of sales - probably because it's not yet overloaded

re 123, it's a bit too late for me -- after their ridicuous recent reviewing i'm not going to do extra work trying to guess what they consider editorial

steve

epixx · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2010, 20:07 »

I've uploaded a bunch to test the waters, using the caption/description standard of SS. If they accept that, I'm ok. If they manage to sell the stuff, I'm even happier

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2010, 13:21 »

Quote from: RT on January 19, 2010, 16:24

[/quote
Thanks for the reply David, editorial is not something I'd considered for micros, I don't do that sort of stuff but the small amount of editorial that I do take I put on Alamy, for someone with your background is it something you think will take off or are you testing the water.

Hi Richard, It certainly does well on SS and I recently joined DT where, so far, it is doing well. Got quite a few sales on the UK agency as well, but I've promised myself not to mention them tonight! By editorial, in my case, it's a mix of archive celeb shots Margaret Thatcher etc and everyday events like the Hastings marathon/ May Day procession (e.g. street pictures featuring loads of people). Obviously, if I ever had a hot news story I'd be contacting the national press first, not putting it on microsites, but for editorial shots sitting on file I find it worthwhile. BTW signed up to 123RF today, so we'll see how they go when they launch the editorial side. Regards, David.

reviews@123rf · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:58 »

Hi All,

Basically our editorial upload procedure is rather simple. If you are currently a contributor at our site, the upload method is very much the same (web form). Only 2 simple steps, upload and keyword a minimum of 7 words and your editorial images are ready for reviews. Our team has been instructed to be more lenient on editorial acceptance compared to normal RF reviews.

Why not give our editorial upload a try. There's no harm trying and most of all, there's nothing to lose

Freedom · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2010, 06:07 »

Given the often specific nature of editorials, selling them as micro and at subscription price just doesn't make much sense.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2010, 10:31 »

Quote from: reviews@123rf on January 21, 2010, 03:58

Hi All,

Basically our editorial upload procedure is rather simple. If you are currently a contributor at our site, the upload method is very much the same (web form). Only 2 simple steps, upload and keyword a minimum of 7 words and your editorial images are ready for reviews. Our team has been instructed to be more lenient on editorial acceptance compared to normal RF reviews.

Why not give our editorial upload a try. There's no harm trying and most of all, there's nothing to lose

Start selling my commercial stuff then I will share my editorial.

Ploink · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2010, 11:46 »

Quote from: reviews@123rf on January 21, 2010, 03:58

Hi All,

Basically our editorial upload procedure is rather simple. If you are currently a contributor at our site, the upload method is very much the same (web form). Only 2 simple steps, upload and keyword a minimum of 7 words and your editorial images are ready for reviews. Our team has been instructed to be more lenient on editorial acceptance compared to normal RF reviews.

Why not give our editorial upload a try. There's no harm trying and most of all, there's nothing to lose

Thanks for the info - any timeline for FTP upload for editorial? I'm sitting on a portfolio of 1.000+ editorial images and I'd rather not upload them via a web form

fai_123rf · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2010, 21:53 »

Hi all 123RF editorial contributers

We're pleased to let you know that our editorial section is receiving good response and we appreciate your effort in helping it take off. However due to the increasing number of uploads that we have been receiving, our team will require a maximum of two days to re-engineer certain parts of the upload process to ensure that things will run seamlessly.

Thank you for your patience and understanding and we'll be back in 2 days.

-123RF

@ploink: We don't have any plans on implementing FTP upload for editorials as of now as we're concentrating on improving and perfecting our existing system. But if we do, we'll definitely let you know. Until then, please use the webform.

m@m · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2010, 22:32 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on January 21, 2010, 10:31

Quote from: reviews@123rf on January 21, 2010, 03:58
Hi All,

Basically our editorial upload procedure is rather simple. If you are currently a contributor at our site, the upload method is very much the same (web form). Only 2 simple steps, upload and keyword a minimum of 7 words and your editorial images are ready for reviews. Our team has been instructed to be more lenient on editorial acceptance compared to normal RF reviews.

Why not give our editorial upload a try. There's no harm trying and most of all, there's nothing to lose

Start selling my commercial stuff then I will share my editorial.

Very well said Warren!!!...+1

FD · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2010, 22:51 »

Quote from: reviews@123rf on January 21, 2010, 03:58

Why not give our editorial upload a try. There's no harm trying and most of all, there's nothing to lose

I gave it a try, and uploaded 29. I expected most of them to be rejected for bad lighting, since editorial is done most of the time in worse circumstances than controlled studio shots. All were accepted.
Which proves... never say never.

FD · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2010, 22:59 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on January 21, 2010, 10:31

Start selling my commercial stuff then I will share my editorial.

Warren, don't be too judgmental. Commercial RF is totally different from Editorial, market-wise. 123RF is pretty late entering Editorial, so let's see how they handle and market it. Just give it a try. All my editorials were accepted. I still think the place for it is RM, but some shots might be generic enough to attract RF buyers, especially if you're in a niche.

fai_123rf · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2010, 04:53 »

Thanks for being positive FD. We are doing our best to make the editorials a success. And in that spirit, our staff have done their update, so please be informed that:

The editorial is back up

Please continue your submissions, thanks!

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2010, 14:58 »

Quote from: fai_123rf on February 02, 2010, 04:53

Thanks for being positive FD. We are doing our best to make the editorials a success. And in that spirit, our staff have done their update, so please be informed that:

The editorial is back up

Please continue your submissions, thanks!

Hi fai, I'd love to continue my submissions but: I uploaded my initial batch of Editorial on the 20th Jan (archive shots of Margaret Thatcher/Gordon Brown/Tony Blair/Boris Yeltsin etc). Still awaiting approval two weeks later. My understanding is that I can't upload more until my initial batch is appoved (note: I wasn't previously with 123 -signed up when you announced the Editorial launch). My ID uploaded sucessfully. Maybe you are just swamped with Editorial stuff to review? I'm not one to bother about slow approval times normally but would like to be kicking loads of images in prior to your Editorial launch. If there was a problem with my submission please let me know! Regards, David.

fai123rf · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2010, 21:05 »

@newsfocus1: I'm guessing that you're a new user, and that you've only uploaded to our editorials so far? If you are, then chances are you have not been approved as a contributor yet. Our review net for passing new photographers does not take into account editorial upload amounts. I think that's why your contributions aren't being reviewed.

Can you please provide me with your userid on 123rf? Please feel free to drop me a PM if you don't feel comfortable revealing it here. We will check for it and approve your membership right away so we can start reviewing your photos.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2010, 04:50 »

Quote from: fai123rf on February 02, 2010, 21:05

@newsfocus1: I'm guessing that you're a new user, and that you've only uploaded to our editorials so far? If you are, then chances are you have not been approved as a contributor yet. Our review net for passing new photographers does not take into account editorial upload amounts. I think that's why your contributions aren't being reviewed.

Can you please provide me with your userid on 123rf? Please feel free to drop me a PM if you don't feel comfortable revealing it here. We will check for it and approve your membership right away so we can start reviewing your photos.

Thanks fai, that is exactly the situation! I did wonder if that was why it was taking so long. I doubt that I am the only new contributor to 123RF in this situation as there was nothing said about not submitting only editorial images as your initial selection for becoming a contributor (unless I missed it). My user ID at 123 is the same as here "newsfocus1" . Thanks in advance and looking forward to uploading plenty more editorial images as soon as approved. Regards, David.

fai123rf · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2010, 21:02 »

You're welcome, newsfocus. We're working on getting your account activated now.

It's true that we didn't mention it anywhere; I think we might have overlooked this. I've already escalated this to management and we'll come up with a solution soon. However at the moment, for those of you that are strictly editorial contributors and experience a similar situation where your queue is not moving, or if you have any other problems coming from the submission process, please contact us by this email: [email protected] [nofollow]

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2010, 04:06 »

Quote from: fai123rf on February 03, 2010, 21:02

You're welcome, newsfocus. We're working on getting your account activated now.

It's true that we didn't mention it anywhere; I think we might have overlooked this. I've already escalated this to management and we'll come up with a solution soon. However at the moment, for those of you that are strictly editorial contributors and experience a similar situation where your queue is not moving, or if you have any other problems coming from the submission process, please contact us by this email: [email protected]

Thanks again fai, I just checked my account and my initial submissions have moved from pending to accepted. Looking forward to getting uploading now! Regards, David.

John W. · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2010, 10:04 »

I've had some editorials accepted awhile ago but I can't see them in my portfolia. Do they keep editorial and RF separated?

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2010, 14:37 »

Quote from: jwolf on March 03, 2010, 10:04

I've had some editorials accepted awhile ago but I can't see them in my portfolia. Do they keep editorial and RF separated?

I think they are waiting until they have a worthwhile amount to launch the Editorial side. None of mine are searchable yet either. I've only uploaded about 20 so far and must find time to do some more. Regards, David.

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