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« on: December 20, 2012, 05:59 »
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I rarely check or submit to 123rf just because of their randomness in approval. Today when I looked up the earnings I saw one photo sell for EEL. I was quite excited till I looked across and saw only $3.00? Then I had a quick look and saw all the posts about how 'dodgy' the commission has been of late? So would this mean it's correct that I only got $3 for an EEL sale which costs 75 credit?


« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 07:17 »
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I experienced exactly the same situation today. EEL for only $3.00. 

tab62

« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 10:30 »
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So, when my wonderful level 2 kicks in I will get $2 for an EEL instead of the whopping $3  >:(



« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 10:38 »
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Did you contact support?

I'd love to hear their explanation.

I had my last EEL in September for a lot more than $3. So I wonder if they already changed something.

« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 11:05 »
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Given that I've had two "mistakes" "fixed" in the last week or so after contacting support over very low royalties, I'd definitely contact them. See this thread for details.

Note that both times they said they'd get back to me after they investigated and both times I wrote back after a week had passed and I didn't hear from them. And note the promise in the last reply that we'd never get less than 20 cents royalty per credit...

I think they have problems with their partner sites as the second reply referenced the API...

« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 11:20 »
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 12:44 »
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I sent them an email after seeing that $3 eel, I got very quick their answer "Thank you for your email.

Do provide us with a screen shot of the particular page for us to investigate this issue further.

Thank you."
 ...and after sending them two screenshots, they told me to be patient 'til "further investigations".

Very curious about their answer.

« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 20:10 »
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Got a reply this morning...
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Thank you for your email.

The earnings for the downloaded image with the EEL might be due a bulk credit purchase that was made by the client and also by applying
promotional discounts with the purchase. Yes, we do offer promotional purchase discounts to our loyal customers.

However, we will need to double check this with out technical team to see whether the download can be as low as $3.
Rest assured, as we will definitely get back to you once we find out the calculation for that particular download.

We appreciate your patience on this matter. Thank you.

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Dunno when they will come back with a "better" answer".

I guess the short answer is they can give away credits for free and the contributor will foot the bill for it.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 20:52 »
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Got a reply this morning...
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Dunno when they will come back with a "better" answer".

I guess the short answer is they can give away credits for free and the contributor will foot the bill for it.


Exactly.  They were doing that two years ago.  That was when and why I deleted my portfolio in a huff.


« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2012, 00:37 »
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Just checked my earnings and the $3 EEL turned into a $17.25 but without any notification or apology or something like that. I wonder what would have happened if I didn't notice them the very low EEL commission.
And by the way, $17 is still very low for a 75 credits sale.

grafix04

« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2012, 07:34 »
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Just checked my earnings and the $3 EEL turned into a $17.25 but without any notification or apology or something like that. I wonder what would have happened if I didn't notice them the very low EEL commission.
And by the way, $17 is still very low for a 75 credits sale.

 :o

So that's three errors that contributors have found, emailed them and they've fixed.  So unless people question every sale - because we really don't know what each sale is since they don't really pay us 50% - they will continue to rob us as much as $14.   As far as I'm concerned, this is even worse than the commission cut. They should be audited - then handcuffed and carried away.

Why are people willing to put up with this?  If someone walked into your house and grabbed $14 that was lying around, would you let it go?  I'm shocked that people aren't making a big deal out of this.


« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2012, 07:47 »
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What a fantastic business model where your marketing efforts don't actually cost anything (or next to nothing...).

As long as we contributors don't have to get paid for such licenses, 123RF can run a massive advertising campaigns promising ELs at low, low prices.

 >:(

« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2012, 07:54 »
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My also just turned into $17.25 haven't got an email yet. Maybe alot of ppl complaining.


« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2012, 11:14 »
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I got the mail with the explanation.
But: how can I be sure the same situation didn't happened before on other extended licenses or standard licenses? How can I be sure it won't happen again?  If I didn't noticed the very low commission and emailed 123rf, would they adjust the royalty or not? Why did I get $3 instead of $17.25 and not $30 for example?

« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 11:51 »
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Given the large number of "mistakes" we have noticed in the last couple of weeks - and those are only the ones we happened to identify - it seems to me 123rf needs to take a serious look at what they're doing internally and fix whatever is so sloppy that all these errors have occurred.

"...error on the invoice..."?? You billed the customer too little? Or you just paid the contributors too little?

Perhaps you can understand how you have shaken our faith in the accuracy of your internal procedures with these problems. All I can think of is that we need to watch 123rf like a hawk for a bit to make sure we aren't cheated with more "miscalculations" and "errors" and....

And the buyer paid 46 cents a credit for those licenses - I guess the large order got them a very large discount.

« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2012, 12:11 »
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Thank you all for sharing this issue.

The more I read this thread the more I think of deleting my port from 123rf. Even now I see sales coming every day. But the price of all my sales is different and I even can't understand how to calculate it honestly.

P.S.  Deleting my port from DP(after reading thread about cheap EL issue), give me an increase in sales on other sites. And I think I need to do the same with 123rf in January.


 

« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2012, 12:36 »
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And the buyer paid 46 cents a credit for those licenses - I guess the large order got them a very large discount.

more curious is that the max amount of credits that can be purchased is 99999 credits making 0.47
per credit which is $ 0.76

what have this multimillionaire got? 1 M credits? ::)

« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2012, 17:22 »
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Another very curious thing: about 2-3 hours ago I check earnings and see that I sold 5 (five) images (subscriptions)today. Went some Christmas shopping, come home, check 123rf earnings, it shows that I sold today only 2 (two) images.
 There is for sure something that I don't understand about what's going on at 123rf.

« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2012, 17:48 »
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If you search for today's date and click "View" you will often get a different list if sales from the last page in your downloads list. Sometimes more, sometimes fewer. It usually straightens out by the following day

« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2012, 17:50 »
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I just had the same issue. Half an hour ago I had a one subscription sale and then it's gone. Than after 20 minutes it's come back. I've no idea what was that

« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2012, 17:53 »
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If you search for today's date and click "View" you will often get a different list if sales from the last page in your downloads list. Sometimes more, sometimes fewer. It usually straightens out by the following day

exactly!

« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2012, 17:58 »
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Well, besides Shutterstock, all the top agencies lowered commissions during the last 2-3 years. 123rf was one of the very few that I continued to trust in, but sadly, the last few days strongly shattered my faith in them. Do we play a game here? Here's an EL, $3, oh wait, it's $17 to be more accurate, then you sell 5 images/day, but wait, there are only two of them and finally it's 5 again.

grafix04

« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 19:50 »
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Hi Everyone,

We have investigated this issue. It was a big order (180 images in total) and we were rushed to complete the order as the client wanted their images in 6 hours.

The reason for this miscalculation was due to an error on the invoice, we have since corrected the error and have adjusted the downloads to show the correct rate.

Thank you very much for reporting this to us. Our submission email team will be replying to your emails soon.

Alex.

There should be no errors in our pay - ever.  There should be a standard set of royalty payments for the different sizes and licenses and payment should never deviate from those.

Currently we have no idea what you're paying us and for the last few year, everything that was questioned got a reply telling us it was a discount.  Well I look through my records and it seems like there's a discount applied to almost every single sale.  If you want to discount, you wear the discount and if you're going to pass the discount onto us, make us aware of the the deal.

Currently there is no way of knowing if the dogdy amounts had discounts applied to them or if they were errors or if you're just blatantly ripping us off.  Are we supposed to email you and question every single transaction?

Errors should not happen and we have the right to know what exactly it is you're paying us (or what we're paying you).  50% of what?  50% of 80% of a discounted sale?  50% of an error that gave us $3 instead of $17.  What . are you doing with OUR money?  How many of these errors are there?  How do I find them without questioning every transaction?  How do I know your reply will even be true?

I don't even believe that they're errors.  I believe you've been deliberately ripping us off for years and that you're getting more daring by faking bigger 'errors' and 'discounts'.  But of course I will never know.  What I do know is that you lack transparency, that you don't care about the contributors reducing their royalties by up to a massive amount, and that you quickly delete any comments so that the public don't see how sly you really are. 

My trust in you has been completely wiped out and I will have no regrets leaving you - even at level 4. It will be a relief.


« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2012, 23:18 »
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I read this topic and I was shock. So I e-mail 123rf to check many of my low earning files which I have sold recently.

How can I trust that there are no ridiculous mistake like this in the past? and how can I be sure again? I must spread this to my friends to be aware of. I am really not happy with this. It is a very serious issue. Payment shouldn't be mess up.

« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2012, 03:30 »
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I just had the same issue. Half an hour ago I had a one subscription sale and then it's gone. Than after 20 minutes it's come back. I've no idea what was that
This happens regularly at SS.  It's something to do with the servers and always staightens itself out eventually.

« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2012, 04:54 »
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Quote from: mayaartist on Yesterday at 17:50
I just had the same issue. Half an hour ago I had a one subscription sale and then it's gone. Than after 20 minutes it's come back. I've no idea what was that
This happens regularly at SS.  It's something to do with the servers and always staightens itself out eventually.

Thanks fotografer,

To be honest I've never had this problem at SS. I'll keep my eye on it.

good sales for all



« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2012, 03:51 »
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And it happened again. Yesterday evening as I checked my earnings I had with $4 more than this morning. Why is this happening? What did I do wrong, 123rf?



« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2012, 07:31 »
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If these mistakes or errors in calculation are truly ACCIDENTAL then statistically it should in some instances favour the contributor.  It may thus be significant to note that these "mistakes" are ALWAYS in favour of the agency.  How can this be?
 
The second thing of note is that these "mistakes" are almost always corrected only after an observant person started an enquiry. To be honest this does not inspire confidence, especially in an industry where we have to depend on the honesty and integrity of the agency. I am not saying that 123RF is dishonest in this case, but with the eminent royalty cuts there is a growing negative sentiment towards 123RF, which will inevitably result in an increased awareness of all matters related to the royalty structure and the calculation of royalties.
 
In my opinion 123RF is heading for a turbulent start to 2013. Hiding the page with the new royalty structure, deleting negative comments on their Facebook page, an escalation of errors in the calculation of royalties all these things add up to an ever increasing divide between the agency and its contributors. I am surprised that 123RF is following this route. Any agency that thinks it can mistreat its contributors and that it wont hurt them in the long run, is making a big mistake more so if you are not one of the big four. 

Contributors dont necessarily need to delete their images or stop uploading to hurt an agency. Many contributors are also buyers and they will stop buying from 123RF. The removal of links on their websites and bad publicity in forums and elsewhere will eventually hurt an agency financially more than what they have gained in the short term with the royalty cuts.  When will agencies understand and appreciate that the support and goodwill of ALL their contributors is essential if they want to grow and prosper in the long term.


« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2012, 08:46 »
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Oh, thanks for the Christmas gift, I just got a $4 refund. 123rf rocks!

« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2012, 16:45 »
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Hi Eco,

We detected the error much much earlier than any complaint, but we needed more time to continue the download - as I mentioned we did not want half the downloads to be registered at a different price than the other half.

But AS SOON AS we finished the entire download, we got our IT team to correct the error and explained to all contributors affected.

It is not true that all adjustments are made in our favor. In my 6 year history with 123RF, I remembered quite a few incidences in the past when we detected miscalculations, errors, omissions, refunds that were meant to be deducted but weren't. Our management decided to absorb them as they were well in the past errors and did not warrant making such adjustments. For those incidences, 123RF absorbed quite a substantial amount of money.

But in any case, I still hope that you'll be with us in 2013 (and beyond) and I always welcome any form of dialogue.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

So it is true that so far each time I've contacted 123rf about an error that they have eventually corrected it.

However, (1) I have had to follow up each time after the support person said they'd be in touch after they investigated. I always wait one week before complaining a second time. I don't want to be unreasonable. Support just drops the ball on contacting contributors about errors . In the case of the ELs, if you knew about the error with the ELs before you were contacted, why not e-mail contributors or post here about it? Get out in front of problems and it'll make it easier for contributors to trust you.

(2) I came back to 123rf in 2011 after a stint as an iStock exclusive to find I had a negative balance of $26.28. A refund had been made in April 2010 (I hadn't contributed since August 2008) and support explained it was a "one-off mass audit". Not sure how that squares with refraining from deducting really old mistakes or frauds.

(3) The two earlier problems I brought to support's attention were unrelated to this EL "mistake". One of them referenced an API problem with a partner sale. Both of them said the problem had been "fixed". Are you tell me that for those you had already found them, not notified me or corrected my balance and then when I contacted you, told me you had to "investigate" the problem? Again, what you say above just doesn't square with my experience over incorrect amounts for royalties.

It may just be really sloppy controls versus some big effort to divert funds, but things are not right. When you couple that with the introduction of this new royalty scheme, perhaps you can understand why trust in 123rf is evaporating.

« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2012, 07:09 »
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My also just turned into $17.25 haven't got an email yet. Maybe alot of ppl complaining.
How they calculate this $17.25 at all? Inside of royalty structure site, there they say 50%.. and EEL is $75.00 or is there something what I do not recognize?

The business relationship that kind of like micro stocking, all information must be open and trustworthy. If the company do not share important information enough, there is a "black hole" which is filled with a wrong information. This is very important and it's shame that all do not understand that.

Poncke

« Reply #35 on: December 25, 2012, 09:23 »
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I have noticed that agencys that come here only address simple issues, you never get an answer on the real issues that matter. This makes me believe that they dont have an answer because the issues raised are true and the agency got copped out.

« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2012, 10:42 »
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I'm sorry but I don't trust 123rf anymore. They tried to cheat me for $14 after sending them my best work for four years. And I'm sick of their complicated explanations.
I now check my earnings 15-20 times a day despite their very annoying captcha. And as a reward for their weird behavior, starting next month, I'll get only 40% instead of 50% commission. Nice, 123rf, very nice. 

« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2012, 11:41 »
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My also just turned into $17.25 haven't got an email yet. Maybe alot of ppl complaining.
How they calculate this $17.25 at all? Inside of royalty structure site, there they say 50%.. and EEL is $75.00 or is there something what I do not recognize?

The business relationship that kind of like micro stocking, all information must be open and trustworthy. If the company do not share important information enough, there is a "black hole" which is filled with a wrong information. This is very important and it's shame that all do not understand that.

The customer paid much less than $1 per credit - 46 cents per credit if the royalty is correct. You can verify with support, but given the 180 EL order (from Alex's earlier post) a big volume discount is likely.

Merry Christmas!

fujiko

« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2012, 14:44 »
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Discounts should always be on agency share of the sale.
I am always amazed how happy and eager agencies are to apply huge discounts and then pass it to the contributor. Now, after the royalty cut, it's even less than 50% of a randomly discounted sale.

Poncke

« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2012, 15:04 »
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I think we probably signed off on their discounts when we agreed with the contract. However I cant find anything about discounts in the contract http://www.123rf.com/submit/agreement.php

But I agree its unethical and disgraceful to pass on discounts to contribs when you already take a 70% cut for something you didnt even create.

« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2013, 15:49 »
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I have just got $0.906 for a PEL , which is 50 credits. Have sent of an email to much sure it is correct.

Any one else got one this low lately?

 :(

« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2013, 16:30 »
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I have just got $0.906 for a PEL , which is 50 credits. Have sent of an email to much sure it is correct.

Any one else got one this low lately?

 :(

No, but in the past I had some insanely low numbers that were errors - or they got fixed after I complained. They said that 40 cents a credit was the minimum price on which royalties would be paid - so 20 cents a credit for us at 50% royalties. If it's below that, then it's wrong.

« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2013, 17:57 »
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And this is like rubbing salt into an open wound after their RC debacle. The pittance we make on 123 can't even be calculated correctly, and the delays in "getting it right" cost me money.  What I would get in one month I can no longer rely on when I budget.

palagarde

« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2013, 20:15 »
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1, 2, 3, GO! away
:P
pathetic

« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2013, 20:55 »
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I have just got $0.906 for a PEL , which is 50 credits. Have sent of an email to much sure it is correct.

Any one else got one this low lately?

 :(

@uvox - Our team has investigated your account and your email which came in approximately 5 hours ago. We have found that there are no PEL downloads on your account - both on your earnings page as well as on our database tables. Our Submission Email team member has replied to your email with even more conclusive details.

Thank you for reaching out.

Alex.

« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2013, 10:05 »
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to be fair, 123rf is actually one of the stable agency for me..and sales is increasing in my case.

I am sure some guys are seeing the same results..

« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2013, 10:07 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 14:40 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2013, 07:41 »
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I have just got $0.906 for a PEL , which is 50 credits. Have sent of an email to much sure it is correct.

Any one else got one this low lately?

 :(

@uvox - Our team has investigated your account and your email which came in approximately 5 hours ago. We have found that there are no PEL downloads on your account - both on your earnings page as well as on our database tables. Our Submission Email team member has replied to your email with even more conclusive details.

Thank you for reaching out.

Alex.

I received my reply back. I didn't get a PEL. It was a XXLMH. The confusion was that on viewing my downloads on my android tablet the column formatting was wrong making it look like it was a sale in the  PEL column. It was hard to notice as the formatting is fine for the beginning and end of the columns but goes funny in the middle. If you look at the same page on a computer it is OK.  123RF are getting their software people to change the page.  The issue also arose on a different tablet. No PEL , maybe next time.

« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2013, 10:32 »
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I received my reply back. I didn't get a PEL. It was a XXLMH. The confusion was that on viewing my downloads on my android tablet the column formatting was wrong making it look like it was a sale in the  PEL column. It was hard to notice as the formatting is fine for the beginning and end of the columns but goes funny in the middle. If you look at the same page on a computer it is OK.  123RF are getting their software people to change the page.  The issue also arose on a different tablet. No PEL , maybe next time.

90 cents for a high res pic doesn't sound too good...
123RF is just way too cheap.  :(

« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2013, 06:04 »
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Does anyone know what the XXLMH license should be selling for? I do not even see this License type listed with the images.

« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2013, 08:51 »
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Does anyone know what the XXLMH license should be selling for? I do not even see this License type listed with the images.



« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2013, 09:12 »
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Thank you, Luis, I could not find this information anywhere on the site (but looks as if I am just blind)... .

« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2013, 09:14 »
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Thank you, Luis, I could not find this information anywhere on the site (but looks as if I am just blind)... .

I still wonder where is the LEL license ::)

« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2013, 20:26 »
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STILL wonder where is the LEL license (like the price for the buyer... ?)

had one today for 5.22$ :o


« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2013, 00:29 »
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HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation ::)

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course ;D
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 01:20 by luissantos84 »

rubyroo

« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2013, 04:14 »
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Thank you for reaching out.

HUGE ASIDE:  I don't mean to pick on you particularly Alex... but why on earth do US companies keep thanking people for 'reaching out'?

It makes me feel as though I'm seeking religious conversion or have contacted a counsellor rather than a business.  What's wrong with 'thanks for contacting us' or 'thank you for raising this issue'?  Surely these are more accurate descriptions for what has occurred.  To be thanked for 'reaching out' when someone is angry about something only adds fuel to the fire IMO.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel companies are sometimes brainwashed into believing that the current corporate- or PR-speak is actually a good idea, even when it drives people nuts because it makes them feel the speaker is locked in a mantra rather than taking them seriously.

Don't get me wrong... I think 123RF are great at responding swiftly to concerns... but that phrase has a certain 'distance' about it.

OK.. rant over.  Just wanted to drop that pebble in the pond.  You can thank me for 'leaching out' if you want.  As you were... :)
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 04:29 by rubyroo »

« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2013, 06:18 »
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HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation ::)

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course ;D

Maybe ms sites should employ contributors as their chief negotiators. Luis maybe a good choice.  :)

« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2013, 10:09 »
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HI Luis,

The LEL is a specially negotiated license. So it's not listed anywhere on the site.

Thank you very much,

Alex.

if I may add what a great negotiation ::)

p.s: don't you think it is about time to write it down on the website? can you explain us the license? if you have a minute of course ;D

Maybe ms sites should employ contributors as their chief negotiators. Luis maybe a good choice.  :)

ahahah don't think I would my friend but I agree with you 110%, this isn't a proper way of doing business, of course I am talking about these kind of deals we have no data

Poncke

« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2013, 13:23 »
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Its all too much covert, we agreed a licence, you get 5 dollar, what, what licence, what was sold for how much now? You might have sold an image for 300 dollar and pay 5 dollar to Luis and the buyer could as well have gotten all copyrights.

I went from loving 123 to hating them more then FT.

« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2013, 13:55 »
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right, we need an explanation for this matter, this type of things cannot happen

1 - 123RF does special EL deals (like iStock with Google)
2 - contributors dig and find it
3 - agency acts as a saint and no explanation, actually with no shame says its a deal that is not written anywhere
4 - contributors lose trust once again
5 - believe its obvious....

« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2013, 18:26 »
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AND there is no explanation! :o

« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2013, 10:41 »
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Poncke

« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2013, 14:12 »
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right, we need an explanation for this matter, this type of things cannot happen

1 - 123RF does special EL deals (like iStock with Google)
2 - contributors dig and find it
3 - agency acts as a saint and no explanation, actually with no shame says its a deal that is not written anywhere
4 - contributors lose trust once again
5 - believe its obvious....

Don't forget Shutterstock pays out $2 for ELs with no license available publicly for us to look at.

Here is an explanation of two of those extended license options, one with and one without a sensitive use option.

A license without a sensitive use option.
For individual images downloaded under these licenses, the contributor will typically receive a royalty of $2 to $15 or more, based on the cost of the license and the contributors earnings tier (20 to 30%).
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/individual-image-licenses-update
THose are not ELs but SODs, an EL pays 28 dollar to the contributor and cost the buyer about 80 dollar.

« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2013, 14:19 »
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Poncke

« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2013, 14:28 »
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Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2013, 14:35 »
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Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

exactly, their license name is "Single & Other Downloads", that includes the buyer wanting a single picture or two perhaps and then there are the sensitive use licenses that can go up to 120$

« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2013, 14:36 »
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« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2013, 14:37 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 14:39 by Audi 5000 »

Poncke

« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2013, 14:42 »
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Its not an Extended Licence, its an extension to the licences options they already offered. Thats what I understand from it.

Please explain how the Extended License is not an Extended License? 
"Here is an explanation of two of those extended license options, one with and one without a sensitive use option."

http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/individual-image-licenses-update
Look, you are twisting words, notice how they write extended licence options, lower case three words, and you write Extended Licence, capitalized and two words. Thats making it a fallacy. SS doesnt have Extended Licences.


« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2013, 14:47 »
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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2013, 20:35 »
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One of my image got a 100MB dl in Apr.10, just got $6.86, after read this topic, I found that this dl may has problem too, Am I right?


« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2013, 12:55 »
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so 123RF and buyer decide how many times a picture/license will be used? 20 credits allow how many? you guys like to make it so confusing, with less sales every month things are becoming very good :o

Poncke

« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2013, 13:18 »
+1
Really weird, I go from BME to WME, what a drop.


 

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