You're talking about RPD, the thread is not about RPD. Obviously.

And yes, if you're uploading 21 mpix+ files, these prices are important, because you get quite a few. In fact I'm getting a lot of them at 123RF and since I get payed less than for a S level 1 DL at DT or less than an M DL at IS or FT or any OD/SOD at SS it really is demotivating and you realize just how contraproductive it really is to upload to those sites. Perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to UL the min required size on those agencies. Especially on DP, where 95% of my DLs are subs. But then again, I'm not uploading to those sites anymore anyway and if I'm going to change something, it's going to be the removal of my port

And we bitch about getting 7c/cr at IS, which brings us 1.61$. But to be honest it really happens rarely at IS, but at 123RF it happens all the time in the best case scenario I get 2$. Yes, 2 lousy bucks!

Trouble is, if you're non-exclusive at IS, your files will presumably all be transferred to TS where your return on a huge file is even less, and you can't opt to send only smaller files there (if independent). Can't remember how many cents you get, but it's so low, they don't post them on the FAQ locked sticky. Surely 'how much would I get?' must be the most FAQ.

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 06:21

But you do realize I'm talking about photos, do you?

Does it matter? Some of these sites still pay more on small or large sizes.

Name some, name at least 1, you're talking off the top of your head all the time. I'm stating facts all the time

Quote from: cthoman on March 13, 2012, 09:29

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 06:21

But you do realize I'm talking about photos, do you?

Does it matter? Some of these sites still pay more on small or large sizes.

Name some, name at least 1, you're talking off the top of your head all the time. I'm stating facts all the time

Veer's prices are pretty similar and they pay 30%. Cutcaster and GL let you set your own prices and pay 40% and 52%. Yay looks like they pay more (especially with Euro conversions). That's just off the top of my head.

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 10:11

Quote from: ShadySue on March 13, 2012, 09:27

Quote from: wut on February 17, 2012, 13:43

And we bitch about getting 7c/cr at IS, which brings us 1.61$. But to be honest it really happens rarely at IS, but at 123RF it happens all the time in the best case scenario I get 2$. Yes, 2 lousy bucks!

Trouble is, if you're non-exclusive at IS, your files will presumably all be transferred to TS where your return on a huge file is even less, and you can't opt to send only smaller files there (if independent). Can't remember how many cents you get, but it's so low, they don't post them on the FAQ locked sticky. Surely 'how much would I get?' must be the most FAQ.

Indeed, but that's a sub model, it's the same everywhere (more or less, getting 1,05$ for level 5 subs at DT ain't so bad;). BTW I opted in voluntarily, the volume was good, so I got almost as much as from regular IS sales. It's the same at SS, the volume makes up for it. At smaller sites, it doesn't, not even close. When we get to credit sales, those small agencies price full (20+ mpix) res photos ridiculously

It's the low sub prices that are forcing or holding prices down in general.

Even if they're, those super low credit prices sure don't help. And if you look at 123RF, all you see is cheap files sold by credits and subs. The big sites at least balance the average with decently priced files sold by credits

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 10:07

Quote from: cthoman on March 13, 2012, 09:29

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 06:21

But you do realize I'm talking about photos, do you?

Does it matter? Some of these sites still pay more on small or large sizes.

Name some, name at least 1, you're talking off the top of your head all the time. I'm stating facts all the time

Veer's prices are pretty similar and they pay 30%. Cutcaster and GL let you set your own prices and pay 40% and 52%. Yay looks like they pay more (especially with Euro conversions). That's just off the top of my head.

GL's highest price is 6$. You get 3$. It's better than 123RF, that's for sure, but still just half of what you get at IS, SS, DT (if it's a higher level image, then a lot less). But still, with such low volume, the prices would have to be dozen times higher to make it up...

GL's highest price is 6$. You get 3$. It's better than 123RF, that's for sure, but still just half of what you get at IS, SS, DT (if it's a higher level image, then a lot less). But still, with such low volume, the prices would have to be dozen times higher to make it up...

I must be magical then because mine goes up to $15.  

Quote from: cthoman on March 13, 2012, 11:17

Quote from: wut on March 13, 2012, 11:06

GL's highest price is 6$. You get 3$. It's better than 123RF, that's for sure, but still just half of what you get at IS, SS, DT (if it's a higher level image, then a lot less). But still, with such low volume, the prices would have to be dozen times higher to make it up...

I must be magical then because mine goes up to $15.  

Then you must get special treatment. Here's the first image found under business, priced at 6$ for a 21 mpix file http://graphicleftovers.com/graphic/business-588/

Yes, you can set your price at $6, $10 or $15. That contributor set their price a $6. It was their choice. Cutcaster does the same thing. So do sites like Clipartof and Drawshop. There might be others that do that to. It's a nice feature.

So what we can gather from all this is, that if a non-top 4 agency wants to sell anything, let's say be a part of the middle tier, it has to sell the files at super low prices, that especially shows in the price of full size. Since I only contribute to the middle tier agencies (and PD which is ranked as the top low tier agency) I can only experience those low prices. In a way they're forced to contribute to the race to the bottom. Or remain small and insignificant. Faced with two bad choices, two ways of doing business. I wish someone would finally come up with the third way

If you say so, but I'm going to agree to disagree on this one. Have a good day.