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Agency Based Discussion => 123RF => Topic started by: Souf10 on February 17, 2022, 08:00
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Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
🤣🤣🤣 Yes I need one
Can I ask you what is you top marketplaces where you sell vectors ? instead adobe and SS
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
Great, that comment! ;D
And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
Great, that comment! ;D
And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.
what is you best agencies to sell vectors, instead adobe and SS ?
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
Great, that comment! ;D
And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.
what is you best agencies to sell vectors, instead adobe and SS ?
I can only answer the question very subjectively. Since my portfolio consists of renderings, vector graphics and photos, I would have to check very laboriously how many of the sales are vector graphics. That is hardly possible.
I would try - after AS and shutterstock - istock in the first place. There I have almost three times the amount of downloads compared to 123rf and also a higher RPD.
But I read from many providers that with them the RPD is very low at istock. With me, however, it is significantly higher than with shutterstock.
The upload process at istock is annoying and time consuming. And with 123rf it can take months until the images are accepted. There the review is a disaster!
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Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?
I have 5500 vectors on 123RF.
I make 5-10 USD per month. I still upload there, because it's really easy, considering my workflow.
So, you decide. If you have thousands of vectors on 12-15 small agencies and you get 10 USD per month from each of them, then you can make 150+ USD per month, or 1800 USD per year. That is a nice addition to "big agencies money" - SS, AS, iS, P5... But, of course, uploading to 20 agencies takes a lot of time.
If you automate and/or optimize your workflow... maybe...
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
Great, that comment! ;D
And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.
what is you best agencies to sell vectors, instead adobe and SS ?
I can only answer the question very subjectively. Since my portfolio consists of renderings, vector graphics and photos, I would have to check very laboriously how many of the sales are vector graphics. That is hardly possible.
I would try - after AS and shutterstock - istock in the first place. There I have almost three times the amount of downloads compared to 123rf and also a higher RPD.
But I read from many providers that with them the RPD is very low at istock. With me, however, it is significantly higher than with shutterstock.
The upload process at istock is annoying and time consuming. And with 123rf it can take months until the images are accepted. There the review is a disaster!
"And with 123rf it can take months until the images are accepted. There the review is a disaster!"
This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images. The more files you have pending, the sooner they will review your images.
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This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.
Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time. :o
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.
I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.
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This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.
Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time. :o
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.
I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.
When I opened my account there 4 years ago, I had the same problems at first. Hundreds of pictures were not reviewed for 2 months.
After contacting the support, all images were waved through overnight immediatly. Since then, my experience has been the same as smcbuki.
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Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?
I have 5500 vectors on 123RF.
I make 5-10 USD per month. I still upload there, because it's really easy, considering my workflow.
So, you decide. If you have thousands of vectors on 12-15 small agencies and you get 10 USD per month from each of them, then you can make 150+ USD per month, or 1800 USD per year. That is a nice addition to "big agencies money" - SS, AS, iS, P5... But, of course, uploading to 20 agencies takes a lot of time.
If you automate and/or optimize your workflow... maybe...
I agree with you 👍
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This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.
Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time. :o
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.
I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.
When I opened my account there 4 years ago, I had the same problems at first. Hundreds of pictures were not reviewed for 2 months.
After contacting the support, all images were waved through overnight immediatly. Since then, my experience has been the same as smcbuki.
I had the same problem and it was resolved by contacting them
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This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.
Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time. :o
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.
I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.
You should have contacted their support. They would push your pending images.
How many images you submit at a time definitely plays a role, almost everywhere. The larger your batch, the sooner your images get accepted.
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Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.
But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.
And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.
So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.
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Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.
But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.
And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.
So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.
I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly than mine.
As for reviewing speed, I've read somewhere on this forum about prioritizing batches, but I can't find that thread now. I don't remember the agency in question.
BTW I have 5 files pending on 123RF for quite some time. I have submitted hundreds of vectors and batches always go through, but those singles get stuck for weeks.
Sometimes, while I'm still submitting, they accept a few dozens from that batch. Hence - prioritizing large batches.
In a way it makes sense. Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.
If you submit one image every day, in one month you will have 30 submissions, one file per submission. Reviewers just won't bother to accept 30 micro tasks over one task with a large batch. When you contact support, they check your submissions and mark them as urgent. Maybe they pay more money (cents) for urgent reviews, or maybe they create one bigger batch from your separate submissions, and then reviewers check your files.
Anyways, this is way too much writing on this subject. :)
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You should have contacted their support. They would push your pending images.
How many images you submit at a time definitely plays a role, almost everywhere. The larger your batch, the sooner your images get accepted.
If I have to contact support to have my images reviewed, that's another thing that is far from professional. They should know that they should review images contributor contribut. Obviously we don't upload content there just for fun. I will not run after them or any agency and beg them to review my images.
If 123RF and their system works for you, that's great for you. An agency that takes months to review content and where I have to contact them and tell them to do their job is not working for me.
And no, with no other agency the amount of photos I submit plays any role in how fast the images get reviewed.
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You should have contacted their support. They would push your pending images.
How many images you submit at a time definitely plays a role, almost everywhere. The larger your batch, the sooner your images get accepted.
If I have to contact support to have my images reviewed, that's another thing that is far from professional. They should know that they should review images contributor contribut. Obviously we don't upload content there just for fun. I will not run after them or any agency and beg them to review my images.
If 123RF and their system works for you, that's great for you. An agency that takes months to review content and where I have to contact them and tell them to do their job is not working for me.
And no, with no other agency the amount of photos I submit plays any role in how fast the images get reviewed.
Just came back to say your portfolio is adorable. :)
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Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... ;D
Wayback machine i need one! ;D
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Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.
But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.
And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.
So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.
I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly.
Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.
No, most of my vectors are extremely simple.
The thesis that the review is paid by quantity of accepted images is interesting. I don't know if this is true, but it is at least conceivable.
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Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.
But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.
And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.
So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.
I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly.
Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.
No, most of my vectors are extremely simple.
The thesis that the review is paid by quantity of accepted images is interesting. I don't know if this is true, but it is at least conceivable.
Wilm ,but somehow this theory makes sense.
I assume that the reviewers work from home. Then it makes sense from the point of view of the agencies not to pay a fixed salary, but per review as an incentive.
Of course, I don't know if larger batches will bring more money per time.
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Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.
But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.
And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.
So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.
I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly.
Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.
No, most of my vectors are extremely simple.
The thesis that the review is paid by quantity of accepted images is interesting. I don't know if this is true, but it is at least conceivable.
Wilm ,but somehow this theory makes sense.
I assume that the reviewers work from home. Then it makes sense from the point of view of the agencies not to pay a fixed salary, but per review as an incentive.
Of course, I don't know if larger batches will bring more money per time.
If so, then the agency should consider whether what it is doing is right.
But it would fit into the general credo of the agencies. Quantity is more important than quality. Only: if everyone does it this way, the small agencies lose, because no agency can keep up with shutterstock - purely in terms of quantity. Perhaps marketing should then think about a new, more sensible orientation.
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I have reasonable sales of vectors at 123RF but their review process is really painfully, painfully slow, especially for vectors (but it is not much better for photos either)
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
Thank you !
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
VectorStock is slow
It starts with 25% per DL but in time it gets better
I get 10% of my income from them.
I recomend it - as long as you have patience
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
VectorStock is slow
It starts with 25% per DL but in time it gets better
I get 10% of my income from them.
I recomend it - as long as you have patience
Thank you for your honest answer! 10% should be worth it. I will give them a try.
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
Please if you had vector sales in Vecteesy share with us your experience . I think it's interesting marketplace !
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@nazlisart, you are clearly a talented illustrator.
Why would you devalue your work by selling somewhere like Vecteezy? As someone who has been approached repeatedly by them, and even offered cash incentives to upload I don’t understand why anyone who values their work would take the bait.
They are as bad, if not worse, than Freepik was at their worst point. Giving away loads of work for free for $5 per 1000 dls or sell your work to subscribers paying $9 per month for UNLIMITED downloads. It’s madness. I can’t really imagine a worse deal.
Also full of stolen stuff like this:
https://www.vecteezy.com/members/freevector (https://www.vecteezy.com/members/freevector)
The owners are running a stock image site without even understanding how licensing works. They think they are covered as long as they sell this stuff as “editorial”, even though the uploader clearly doesn’t have copyright of the images.
There couldn’t be a worse deal/ site out there so very curious as to how they get anyone legit to sign up.
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
VectorStock is slow
It starts with 25% per DL but in time it gets better
I get 10% of my income from them.
I recomend it - as long as you have patience
Thank you for your honest answer! 10% should be worth it. I will give them a try.
I have now taken a closer look at VectorStock and have decided not to upload there. I don't like the pricing structure for contributors. For subscription sales you only get $0.20. From that I have to deduct 3% for paypal. The result is € 0.17, not even 45% of what I get at AS. For an extended license at VectorStock $7.50 to a maximum of $10.50. This does not meet my expectations.
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@nazlisart, you are clearly a talented illustrator.
Why would you devalue your work by selling somewhere like Vecteezy? As someone who has been approached repeatedly by them, and even offered cash incentives to upload I don’t understand why anyone who values their work would take the bait.
They are as bad, if not worse, than Freepik was at their worst point. Giving away loads of work for free for $5 per 1000 dls or sell your work to subscribers paying $9 per month for UNLIMITED downloads. It’s madness. I can’t really imagine a worse deal.
Also full of stolen stuff like this:
https://www.vecteezy.com/members/freevector (https://www.vecteezy.com/members/freevector)
The owners are running a stock image site without even understanding how licensing works. They think they are covered as long as they sell this stuff as “editorial”, even though the uploader clearly doesn’t have copyright of the images.
There couldn’t be a worse deal/ site out there so very curious as to how they get anyone legit to sign up.
@Justanotherphotographer
Dear friend you are right!
I reread the pricing structure and I realized that someone could download my whole portfolio for just $14...
They approached me sometime last year when I was not active. As part of my decision to came back I included them in my effort to renew and expand my activity.
Thank you for bringing how bad they are in my attention!
I just applied to withdraw the files I have uploaded so far...
P.S. The 130 or so files that have already been uploaded will be deleted from their library IN ONE YEAR as per "contributor's agreement"... very sloppy job on my behalf I have to admit...
@Wilm
I disagree about VectorStock. Subscription are relatively low in relation to Credit purchases. My RPD in VS is greater than that of SS after commissions restructuring. They are not the best, but they are not the worst either. I have consistent sales there and would still recommend it.
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
VectorStock is slow
It starts with 25% per DL but in time it gets better
I get 10% of my income from them.
I recomend it - as long as you have patience
Thank you for your honest answer! 10% should be worth it. I will give them a try.
I have now taken a closer look at VectorStock and have decided not to upload there. I don't like the pricing structure for contributors. For subscription sales you only get $0.20. From that I have to deduct 3% for paypal. The result is € 0.17, not even 45% of what I get at AS. For an extended license at VectorStock $7.50 to a maximum of $10.50. This does not meet my expectations.
I don't mean to slander, but I think you have very high expectations from the Microstock business...
Circa 2012 such expectations started spiraling to a slow and painful death I'm afraid.
ADOBE Stock is a beacon of decency and hope for contributors, but if you contribute only to them, you do not take full advantage of your stock portfolio.
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@Justanotherphotographer
Dear friend you are right!
I reread the pricing structure and I realized that someone could download my whole portfolio for just $14...
They approached me sometime last year when I was not active. As part of my decision to came back I included them in my effort to renew and expand my activity.
Thank you for bringing how bad they are in my attention!
I just applied to withdraw the files I have uploaded so far...
P.S. The 130 or so files that have already been uploaded will be deleted from their library IN ONE YEAR as per "contributor's agreement"... very sloppy job on my behalf I have to admit...
@Wilm
I disagree about VectorStock. Subscription are relatively low in relation to Credit purchases. My RPD in VS is greater than that of SS after commissions restructuring. They are not the best, but they are not the worst either. I have consistent sales there and would still recommend it.
I thought it had to be a mistake with top quality work like yours! At least you only have a small part of your portfolio on there. Sorry they have trapped it for a year. At least it stands as a warning to others.
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I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)
Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.
Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy. I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.
I hope that was helpful.
Cheers
May I ask what percentage of your total revenue you make at VectorStock?
I have never dealt with VectorStock before. But if it was worth it, I would take a closer look at the agency.
VectorStock is slow
It starts with 25% per DL but in time it gets better
I get 10% of my income from them.
I recomend it - as long as you have patience
Thank you for your honest answer! 10% should be worth it. I will give them a try.
I have now taken a closer look at VectorStock and have decided not to upload there. I don't like the pricing structure for contributors. For subscription sales you only get $0.20. From that I have to deduct 3% for paypal. The result is € 0.17, not even 45% of what I get at AS. For an extended license at VectorStock $7.50 to a maximum of $10.50. This does not meet my expectations.
I don't mean to slander, but I think you have very high expectations from the Microstock business...
Circa 2012 such expectations started spiraling to a slow and painful death I'm afraid.
ADOBE Stock is a beacon of decency and hope for contributors, but if you contribute only to them, you do not take full advantage of your stock portfolio.
Thanks for your information and thoughts, nazlisart.
I do not only offer at AS. I am also at shutterstock, 123rf, istock, dreamstime, canstock and depositphotos.
But I still have one question: You write that your RPD is higher than with shutterstock. To which shutterstock level is this referring?
Or, in other words: What is your RPD with Vectorstock?
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Thanks for your information and thoughts, nazlisart.
I do not only offer at AS. I am also at shutterstock, 123rf, istock, dreamstime, canstock and depositphotos.
But I still have one question: You write that your RPD is higher than with shutterstock. To which shutterstock level is this referring?
Or, in other words: What is your RPD with Vectorstock?
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I'm at Level 4 at the moment and I expect to be at level 5 late at spring.
I'm talking overall after SS restructure. Also note that the VS RPD is calculated from the beginning when I was at Level 1 (25%) - now I'm at Level 3 (35%) (FOR LIFE not for 6 months as it is in SS)
My VS RPD=$0.56
IMO VS is a profitable addition to vector illustrators.
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Thanks for your information and thoughts, nazlisart.
I do not only offer at AS. I am also at shutterstock, 123rf, istock, dreamstime, canstock and depositphotos.
But I still have one question: You write that your RPD is higher than with shutterstock. To which shutterstock level is this referring?
Or, in other words: What is your RPD with Vectorstock?
I'm at Level 4 at the moment and I expect to be at level 5 late at spring.
I'm talking overall after SS restructure. Also note that the VS RPD is calculated from the beginning when I was at Level 1 (25%) - now I'm at Level 3 (35%) (FOR LIFE not for 6 months as it is in SS)
My VS RPD=$0.56
IMO VS is a profitable addition to vector illustrators.
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Thank you very much once more!
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I'm at Level 4 at the moment and I expect to be at level 5 late at spring.
I'm talking overall after SS restructure. Also note that the VS RPD is calculated from the beginning when I was at Level 1 (25%) - now I'm at Level 3 (35%) (FOR LIFE not for 6 months as it is in SS)
My VS RPD=$0.56
IMO VS is a profitable addition to vector illustrators.
I never looked at VectorStock. I did look at vecteezy with entire accounts or stolen images and wholesale infringing accounts, and then wiped that site off my list of ever looking at again.
So please help me out. https://www.vectorstock.com/free-vectors (https://www.vectorstock.com/free-vectors) I see free vectors? 924,585 of them, but the pay section is worth trying?
Thanks for the personal comments, maybe I should try VectorStock. I know I'm not as good as most people here, who are serious, but maybe another bit of income wouldn't hurt?
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Hello all
I just want to say that my files was accepted at 123Rf in less that 12 hours !
fast than Shutterstock this days 🤣
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IMO VS is a profitable addition to vector illustrators.
I see only two levels. First 500 downloads and then after that. Also I see 20¢ subs. I just joined and got accepted, and I'm wondering what I might expect from VectorStock? They list rates for exclusive and non-exclusive. I won't be doing anything exclusive. But also some other licenses. What's your experience on the variety of downloads?
Am I going to need 500 20¢ to make the $100 minimum payout?
I haven't uploaded anything but I'm starting to like the one zip, all file pairs part. Maybe tomorrow.
Thanks for bringing them up.