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Agency Based Discussion => 123RF => Topic started by: alex123rf on August 06, 2008, 22:47

Title: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on August 06, 2008, 22:47
We know that this is a long awaited feature. It's going to be up soon.

We would like your help to get these items translated into the following languages:

French / German / Spanish / Chinese / Italian

Items to be translated are as follows:

Downloads Total
Referral Earnings
Referral Total
Buyers
Contributors
Thumbnail & Image #
Last Download
Total Earned
Total Earnings

Short explanation:
Downloads Total  ???  Sum of all downloads :)
Referral Earnings ??? How much you got from referrals
Referral Total ??? How much in total (rolling cumulative figure)
Buyers ??? Customers
Contribs ??? Contributors
Thumbnail & Image # ??? This column shows the thumbnail and the image ID
Last Download ??? When was this image last downloaded
Total Earned ??? Total Earned so far
Total Earnings ??? How much in total (rolling cumulative figure)

Looking forward to your translations! Much thanks in advance!

Alex
for 123RF.com
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: fotografer on August 07, 2008, 00:08
I don't really understand what it is you want translated, is it just those few sentences shown above?
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on August 07, 2008, 00:55
Items to be translated are as follows:


Thank you very much!

Alex
for 123RF.com
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on August 07, 2008, 05:02
Hi Everyone,

This is the new Earnings page:
http://submit.123rf.com/submit/commission.php

You may click on the month to drill down and find out how you're doing in the month, example:
http://submit.123rf.com/commission_daily.php?mth=2008-08

In addition, the downloaded images page has also been upgraded:
http://submit.123rf.com/submit/downloaded_stats.php

We hope this gives you a clearer view on how you're performing on 123RF.

The old reports are still valid. Languages other than English will still use the old reporting until we can translate the items above.

Thank you very much for the help and cooperation. We hope you like the new reporting formats, and appreciate your patience.

Alex
for 123RF.com
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: leaf on August 07, 2008, 05:16
nice update.

It is nice to have a clear graph of what is selling.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: ErickN on August 07, 2008, 05:20
Hi Alex,

How often are the new charts updated ?
I've had a credit sale today (Aug 7th) that shows on the "old downloaded report" but not in "Daily earnings" or "download stats".
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: dgilder on August 07, 2008, 11:20
Just one tiny nitpick, on downloaded_stats.php, the images are sorted by image number, oldest first, would it be possible to have them sort by different columns?  The most handy I can think of are by last download descending and image number descending, though it would be nice to be able to click any of the headers and have the list sort by that.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: imageZebra on August 07, 2008, 12:06
Hi Alex,

Since you posted this announcement I thought you may help me decipher those abbreviations on my “Earnings” page.

So, what are those letters stand for:  B  W  P  U  TF  MH  PEL  EEL  CEL  MS  ?

BTW, nice looking graph. Thanks for all the effort, really appreciate it.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: ErickN on August 07, 2008, 12:18
ImageZebra,

These are the credit price categories : Blog, Web, Print, Ultra High, ...
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: melastmohican on August 07, 2008, 13:42
I was asking same question. Would it be nice to have explained somewhere on the page?
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: imageZebra on August 07, 2008, 13:53
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I was asking same question. Would it be nice to have explained somewhere on the page?

Exactly, melastmohican.

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These are the credit price categories : Blog, Web, Print, Ultra High, ...

Thanks Erick for your attempt to help.

I would guess the TF stands for TIFF. Then the rest still doesn’t make sense to me. Is there some kind of page with explanations that I was not able to find?

Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: ErickN on August 07, 2008, 13:58
Simply open one of your photos, and look at the price chart.
The *EL are the extended licenses :

PEL : Print Only Extended License
EEL : Electronic Only Extended License
CEL : Comprehensive Extended License
MS : Multi-seat License
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: sharply_done on August 07, 2008, 14:00
I was asking same question. Would it be nice to have explained somewhere on the page?

The price category names show up when you hover your mouse over them.

I prefer the old style earnings page, which you can still see by using this link (http://submit.123rf.com/submit/myearnings.php).
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: imageZebra on August 07, 2008, 14:13
Thanks guys, you really helped.  :D

Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: imageZebra on August 07, 2008, 14:22
Now I could see my earnings in different perspective. Wow, those numbers per individual download really looking good.  ;D

Thanks, 123RF!

Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: scrappinstacy on August 07, 2008, 16:42
Just one tiny nitpick, on downloaded_stats.php, the images are sorted by image number, oldest first, would it be possible to have them sort by different columns?  The most handy I can think of are by last download descending and image number descending, though it would be nice to be able to click any of the headers and have the list sort by that.

I would also like to chime in that it would be great to be able to sort by any of the column headers with the default being last download descending.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: vividpixels on August 07, 2008, 23:21
YES - please allow us to sort by column headers. As of now the display is completely useless

Thanks - it looks good and will be awesome if columns are click-sortable
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: mitzrah on August 08, 2008, 21:33
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D yes, click sort plz!
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: DanP68 on August 09, 2008, 14:50
The old page says I have 11 sales so far this month, while the new page says I have only 8.  I think I prefer the old page.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on August 11, 2008, 05:36
Hi All!

I understand from the IT department that they batch add the amount of sales at 2 am mountain time in the US.

Thank you very much!

Alex.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on August 17, 2008, 09:21
I seem to have had serious problem since the launch of the new earning/downloaded pages. I have just compared the numbers from old and new versions of earning and downloaded pages and the data received from the StockMon software. I have got different numbers - e.g. downloaded images are 8, 8, 9, 10 and 11. Even when I was doing the test I noticed a credit download had gone missing. Does anybody have similar problems? What is going on there?
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on August 18, 2008, 12:49
Oops, I missed their previous message. My problem might have been caused by their new once-a-day batch system. I hope they will solve this soon so that we can check our numbers on-line again.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: CofkoCof on September 01, 2008, 15:39
Is there a problem with the earnings page? I'm getting different numbers almost everytime I log in :D
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 02, 2008, 01:45
Yes, there is a great problem obviously. I almost started to be afraid I am the only one to have difficulty. Since they introduced the new (and I would say not much lucid but very complicated) earnings and downloads pages I have not been able to find any accurate data. I always have to go to Old Downloaded Report which is BTW the only one to be working properly. The rest of their complicated new many-columned charts does not show the downloads for several days. I am still missing a download from Aug 30th and another one from yesterday. They are both in the Old Downloads Report but nowhere else. Not even in the Old Earnings which is very annoying since I cannot check my earnings quickly any more. I wish they had not changed the old page! I liked it much more than the complicated new and it WORKED properly and i real time.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: MilliardIdeas on September 02, 2008, 02:12
We know that this is a long awaited feature. It's going to be up soon.

We would like your help to get these items translated into the following languages:

French / German / Spanish / Chinese / Italian

Items to be translated are as follows:

Downloads Total
Referral Earnings
Referral Total
Buyers
Contributors
Thumbnail & Image #
Last Download
Total Earned
Total Earnings

Short explanation:
Downloads Total  ???  Sum of all downloads :)
Referral Earnings ??? How much you got from referrals
Referral Total ??? How much in total (rolling cumulative figure)
Buyers ??? Customers
Contribs ??? Contributors
Thumbnail & Image # ??? This column shows the thumbnail and the image ID
Last Download ??? When was this image last downloaded
Total Earned ??? Total Earned so far
Total Earnings ??? How much in total (rolling cumulative figure)

Looking forward to your translations! Much thanks in advance!

Alex
for 123RF.com
Translation? i can do the part of Chinese.

Downloads Total        ====  总下载量
Referral Earnings       ====  推荐赚取
Referral Total       ====  (I don't know it exactly,does it mean the number of total referral user?)
Buyers                        ====   买家
Contributors               ==== 供图者
Thumbnail & Image # ==== 缩略图&图片ID
Last Download           ====  最后下载于
Total Earned              ====  总赚取
Total Earnings           ====  (I don't know it exactly,i dont know what difference between this and "Total Earned")

Hope this can be useful.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 02, 2008, 04:27
Update: the August download has just been put to the new chart.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: dbvirago on September 02, 2008, 13:38
The old page is at least one day behind. The new page is at least two days behind. The old page is now showing yesterday's sales, but the new page still shows nothing in September yet.

It wasn't broke, why did they 'fix' it? The new page is useless even if it worked. I don't want to know how many times I sold image #408933 this month. I want to know what I sold today.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: lisafx on September 02, 2008, 14:27
It wasn't broke, why did they 'fix' it? The new page is useless even if it worked. I don't want to know how many times I sold image #408933 this month. I want to know what I sold today.

Agree completely!! 

The new page is both pointless and confusing.  I much prefer the old view.  Hope they leave the option to view stats that way.  It gives me the information I need in the simplest way possible. 

K.I.S.S. will always be the best way to go, IMHO
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 02, 2008, 14:46
The old page is at least one day behind. The new page is at least two days behind. The old page is now showing yesterday's sales, but the new page still shows nothing in September yet.

It wasn't broke, why did they 'fix' it? The new page is useless even if it worked. I don't want to know how many times I sold image #408933 this month. I want to know what I sold today.

Agree completely. I am not interested in the information the new page offers. I need to know only HOW MANY files I sold and HOW MUCH MONEY. And I would like to see it in the simplest way and in real time. Why didn't they keep the old page in place and add a link to the new "improved" for the people who would be interested? I envy the non-English users! They still have the old page...
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on September 03, 2008, 04:40
Hi Everyone,

Are you aware that you can click on the month to view the breakdown of daily sales?

Alex.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: dbvirago on September 03, 2008, 06:14
Click on what month where? On the monthly earning page, the month isn't a link. I click on downloads and it defaults to the new view in January 2005. I change it to the right month and year and it brings up the new view and I don't see a month to click on there. So I go back to the old view.

If there is something that works, please tell us how to get there.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: alex123rf on September 03, 2008, 21:43
Hi Everyone,

Please visit : http://submit.123rf.com/submit/commission.php

Then click on the Months for example Aug 2008 to see a daily breakdown.

For this month day to day performance you can check out this:

http://submit.123rf.com/myearnings_daily.php?mth=2008-09

Thank you!

Alex.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: Xalanx on September 04, 2008, 01:58
The commission page doesn't show accurate information. There are sales missing, which you can find on "Downloaded" page. However, generally 123rf has a problem with math, since you can easily find a number of accepted photos on "history" page and then another number in your portfolio. One day the commission or old "earnings" page will show the correct number of downloads, next day you might find some of the sales missing.
This lasts for a very long time now. How hard is it to have a developer or two take care of these problems?

I'm taking advantage here to mention also the poor FTP transfer, compared to ANY other agency, also the slow loading pages and the annoying login page that pops every other hour or so, when i want to check my stats. Haven't people heard of a mighty checkbox "Remember me on this computer" that will retain the session for a longer period of time on the server?

Perhaps it's time you change the infrastructure, get a larger bandwith, new hardware and of course, new software developers. Because it really doesn't look professional.

Also, once in a while a little feedback from 123rf staff would be appreciated on the site's forum, since there are people there asking questions and nobody replies.

Thank you in advance,
Catalin.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 04, 2008, 02:14
Yeah, the new page only shows a lot of useless information which are a few days out of date. You must click like a mad kangaroo to check your numbers - first login, then the stupid new pages, then you may finally get to the old downloading page to check your downloads and use a calculator to add your sales since not even the old earning page is working up-to-date any more!
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: dbvirago on September 04, 2008, 08:16
Alex, I hadn't seen that page, since, like others here, I usually click on Downloaded, not Earnings. This is because, again like most others, I want to see what sold today, not just how many.

Maybe a compromise would be to leave the new earnings page as is, but return the downloaded link to the old view.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: dbvirago on September 10, 2008, 12:19
guess not
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: Xalanx on September 10, 2008, 12:47
It is darn annoying. Just when 123rf started to sell almost everyday for me, I have to go through tons of clicks to the old "downloaded" page, to be able to find what I sold.
And 123rf seem that they couldn't care less about this, since nobody is replying at least to tell us how long will it take to get things back at least to the "normal" before the change. That is, a list of sales that updates constantly, not once in 2 days.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 10, 2008, 13:02
I  cannot agree more.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: ben123rf on September 11, 2008, 02:31
I apologize if we seem to portray that we couldn't care less. That is unfortunately not the case.

Personally I have brought this matter up to the IT department countless times. After just speaking to them again, they tell me that the delay time of reporting is something that concerns them and are trying to get to the core of the problem. Not only that, they realize the importance of this so right now they are trying to implement a quick fix or some sort of compromise.



Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 11, 2008, 04:58
And about time too...
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 23, 2008, 06:14
Well, I criticized them very loudly so now I must give praise where praise should be given. Their report pages seem to have started working properly and in real time at last! And about time too...
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: Xalanx on September 23, 2008, 07:25
Nope, it doesn't work. The new "Today's Earnings" line above the monthly earnings works well, but the new downloads from today aren't shown in monthly total. So - not yet.
Title: Re: New Earnings Page Roll Out
Post by: peep on September 24, 2008, 02:46
Oh, you are right. I was too quick to praise them. It is still not working...