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Title: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: jcpjr on May 06, 2010, 18:48
What is the deal at 123 with the high rejection rate again...I slowed down uploading there because they were so far behind in reviews again. I had images waiting since 4/10 (almost a month). Although I only had 26 images waiting, they rejected 24 all for "Poor Lighting/Composition ". They were all accepted (except 2) at the top guns.

Funny thing is, 123 approved the 2 images the big guys rejected. I have to say I wasn't real crazy about them but submitted them anyway. I get a strong feeling they are trying to clear their pending queue....at what cost...
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: jcpjr on May 06, 2010, 18:53
I forgot to ask...anyone else have the same issue today?
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: pancaketom on May 06, 2010, 19:44
my images pending since the 23rd or so were reviewed today. Lots rejected for light/composition (something like 24 - 14), but I don't think any of the batches were 100% rejected as has happened in the past. I can't really predict what will get accepted or rejected there though.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: cascoly on May 07, 2010, 01:10
i've had the same problem for months now -- i'd be more concerned if they were actually selling the ones that they did accept, so at this point i hardly care.  it's simple to upl, let them take what they want and i get a payout every copla months

s
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on May 07, 2010, 02:02
What is the deal at 123 with the high rejection rate again...I slowed down uploading there because they were so far behind in reviews again. I had images waiting since 4/10 (almost a month). Although I only had 26 images waiting, they rejected 24 all for "Poor Lighting/Composition ". They were all accepted (except 2) at the top guns.

Funny thing is, 123 approved the 2 images the big guys rejected. I have to say I wasn't real crazy about them but submitted them anyway. I get a strong feeling they are trying to clear their pending queue....at what cost...

Hi Jcpjr,

Could you please kindly forward us your account information to [email protected] so that we can proceed to investigate the issues further?

Thank you for your kind assistance

Regards
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Xalanx on May 07, 2010, 02:16
Hi Anglee,

Since you're active on this forum I will ask you here - I got 5000th image approved some days ago. When will the rank change? (It's still at Veteran - 3001-5000 images). And second question - does this rank have any kind of importance regarding search placement or some other aspects?
Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: borg on May 07, 2010, 03:55
I have also recently noticed that my approval rate fell sharply, mainly due to poor lightning/composition... ???
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: alfonsodetomas on May 07, 2010, 03:59
Mine also  ???
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: hofhoek on May 07, 2010, 04:29
same here
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: studioportosabbia on May 07, 2010, 08:12
I forgot to ask...anyone else have the same issue today?

Same here! I send them an email yesterday to find out if there was something wrong. Today I had my files reviewed and only 20% was approved. Lots of files were approved by others and rejected by 123RF for poor lightning/composition. They weren't that picky before so I don't know what's going on there. Maybe they forget that they need contributors to keep the business running?
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: cascoly on May 07, 2010, 13:39
Hi Jcpjr,

Could you please kindly forward us your account information to [email protected] so that we can proceed to investigate the issues further?

Thank you for your kind assistance

Regards
Anglee

i did that SEVERAL times over the past few months and never got an adequate response - just the usual 'we know what we're doing' boilerplate

steve
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 07, 2010, 13:58
Hi Jcpjr,

Could you please kindly forward us your account information to [email protected] so that we can proceed to investigate the issues further?

Thank you for your kind assistance

Regards
Anglee

i did that SEVERAL times over the past few months and never got an adequate response - just the usual 'we know what we're doing' boilerplate

steve

I'm thinking they don't have time to fool with us.  It seems their concentration is now on marketing and advertising .... on Twitter and Facebook.   ::)

But ... I really should mention that I am pleased that I am getting some sales on 123RF.  Maybe the FREE advertising is working? 
Or, did they have to pay for those iPads?   ???
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: jcpjr on May 10, 2010, 13:09
What is the deal at 123 with the high rejection rate again...I slowed down uploading there because they were so far behind in reviews again. I had images waiting since 4/10 (almost a month). Although I only had 26 images waiting, they rejected 24 all for "Poor Lighting/Composition ". They were all accepted (except 2) at the top guns.

Funny thing is, 123 approved the 2 images the big guys rejected. I have to say I wasn't real crazy about them but submitted them anyway. I get a strong feeling they are trying to clear their pending queue....at what cost...

Hi Jcpjr,

Could you please kindly forward us your account information to [email protected] so that we can proceed to investigate the issues further?

Thank you for your kind assistance

Regards
Anglee

With all fairness to 123rf and Anglee, the above mentioned images were re-evaluated. Roughtly 40% were changed to "Accepted" and an explanation that they are concerned of possible copyright issues...some of my images were of a commercial building without a property release. A step in the right direction....thanks 123...jp
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Dreamframer on May 10, 2010, 15:18
I have a feeling that 123RF implemented some kind of software that reviews images automatically for lighting/contrast, and only then images go to reviewers. I really think so. Rejected images are often very good, and accepted on other sites, but 123RF rejects them. That became well known pattern at 123RF.
They were testing some "new review method" recently, just in time when high rejection rate started. So, I guess that "new review method" is some kind of software.
Maybe now 123RF wants high key images, like Crestock...who knows..
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Snufkin on May 10, 2010, 16:06
Their recent rejections are simply ridiculous. They reject the photos that istock sells in the first week online and accept some of the borderline ones. No wonder they can't grow. Are they saving storage space or targetting crestock's customer base ? :P
Poor lighting/compositon? C'mon 123, give me a break, come up with more relevant rejection reasons.

After I bought 5dII my acceptance rate at IS is going rapidly up, they reject hardly anything, at the same time 123 reject almost everything.
I am not going to deal with 123 for the time being. It's useless. Huge waste of time.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on May 10, 2010, 21:53
Their recent rejections are simply ridiculous. They reject the photos that istock sells in the first week online and accept some of the borderline ones. No wonder they can't grow. Are they saving storage space or targetting crestock's customer base ? :P
Poor lighting/compositon? C'mon 123, give me a break, come up with more relevant rejection reasons.

After I bought 5dII my acceptance rate at IS is going rapidly up, they reject hardly anything, at the same time 123 reject almost everything.
I am not going to deal with 123 for the time being. It's useless. Huge waste of time.

Hi Tom,

Please email to [email protected] . I will look into this for you.

Cheers,
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Dreamframer on May 11, 2010, 08:11
Hi Anglee,
This problem lasts for months already. We have thousands of rejected images for the same reason poor lighting/composition. It's not just Tom, it's bunch of unsatisfied people.
I submitted few batches for re-review, but the result was almost the same. So I gave up, and I don't resubmit anymore.

Just to add something.... I think everyone here knows I was always supporting 123rf. I always say 123RF is much better than Fotolia for me, which is true. Actually, I think I never, ever said one bad thing about 123RF. But lately I got pretty disappointed because of this issue. You can always say that 123RF now has higher standards than before, but the fact is: good images are being rejected. I don't know what's happening at 123RF, but obviously we here think some things should change...or maybe 123RF really wants to follow steps of Crestock.
If you implemented something...it's bad...really bad.
Nothing personal. I had to say this because I want things to be better, not because I want to rant.
Regards,
Ivan
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: UncleGene on May 11, 2010, 09:47
Looks like Anglee is waiting for everybody here to cry "me too!"

I like 123. They are better for me than FT too. But with such rejection rate it does not worth to upload.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: m@m on May 11, 2010, 09:58
Looks like Anglee is waiting for everybody here to cry "me too!"

I like 123. They are better for me than FT too. But with such rejection rate it does not worth to upload.

+1
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on May 11, 2010, 10:00
I look at sales and they are not worth keeping so I have deleted my portfolio there. I wish them success, they have always been honest.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Snufkin on May 11, 2010, 13:09

Hi Tom,

Please email to [email protected] . I will look into this for you.

Cheers,
Anglee

Hello Anglee,

Thank you for your response.
Please don't take it personally but I don't think it is worthwile to send emails asking to reconsider because the situation will most likely repeat with the next batch.
I'd rather spend this time processing other images and send them to agencies that are glad to take them and to sell them.

I have always liked 123, despite the relatively slow sales and occasional glitches I found 123 a very decent and contributor-friendly agency.
I suggest that you post on your site current guidelines for contributors, so that we know what kind of images you wish to receive and so that we do not waste your time and ours in vain. If there any categories that are not interesting to you anymore, please let us know.
 
Kind regards,
Tom
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: RH on May 11, 2010, 13:20
That's one of the reasons, why i deleted all my images and only wait for a pay-out :(
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: melastmohican on May 11, 2010, 13:41
I am afraid that it's indication that something bad is going to happen. They probably laid off reviewers to cut costs.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: UncleGene on May 13, 2010, 10:20
I've sent email, and received reply that "We had look into your account and reevaluate your images"

I cannot see any changes (though I could miss if they reverted only one) in batch that I asked to look at - looks like they agree with original evaluation. And  - 80% of a new batch rejected again.

It seems I am not good enough for 123. Sad.

In "Blink" Gladwell notes that contempt is the strongest signal of future divorce.

Noted, recorded.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Xalanx on May 14, 2010, 18:36
This is ridiculous. I got the same email back with "Your images had been reevaluate." Nothing happened.
They rejected some files that are accepted at all major agencies. Some of them sold 6-7 times per day at SS for example.
Hey 123RF are you listening? Or are you on autopilot already?

There could be something going on there and I wouldn't be surprised that the funny april's fool joke would become true and these guys will be bought and then shutdown by some big fish.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: plrang on May 19, 2010, 18:18
123rf .. I thought it's my secret slow but steady earner and such a shameless mass rejection. Photos that are accepted and sell  well on other sites.

I've sent another batch but if they will spit on it again - I'll spit on 123rf too.
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Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: donding on May 19, 2010, 21:29
Once I hit payout in the year 2020, I will definitely delete my account. I've been on there for over a year and have had a total of 29 sales for a total of 19.76. They have the same content as all the other sites that sell well. With mass rejections and no sales....it's not worth the time or aggravation so I no longer upload there.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 19, 2010, 21:58
Not a lot but sales are coming slowly ... 10-20 each month.  Hoping to see an increase when the editorial stuff gets started.

And YES... reviews are slow and rejections ... confusing.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: FD on May 20, 2010, 01:58
I uploaded 10 last night and they were already reviewed 6 hrs later. 8 out of 10 were rejected (Poor Lighting/Composition), a model with a very dark business suit, but lit well and with ample detail in the darks, as you can expect with a Canon 5DII and 2 700w lightboxes.

Four days earlier, 9 out of 10 of the same shoot were accepted but the model was wearing a light-toned dress.

I think Ivan's hypothesis is right. They are using an automated process or software to do a pre-evaluation on the light levels. This would explain the super-fast "review". The software is apparently totally dumb, as I had 80%+ acceptance in the 4 years I'm with 123RF, and with a worse cam. The fact that they currently agree to do a manual re-evaluation proves that they are aware of the software flaws. It's either this or the hiring of new totally ignorant reviewers.

I uploaded a bunch of editorial a while ago, and all of that was accepted, which indicates that the reviews were done manually by the old experienced reviewers.

I have no intent whatsoever to beg for re-evaluation. That's me. Don't want it? Fine, it will sell elsewhere. I even deleted the 2 ones that were accepted as they were not as good as the ones rejected, and I will mark this batch as "not uploaded" and replace it with a red stop. No uploads any more till they get their review process right again.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: anonymous on May 21, 2010, 07:20
I have no intent whatsoever to beg for re-evaluation. That's me. Don't want it? Fine, it will sell elsewhere. I even deleted the 2 ones that were accepted as they were not as good as the ones rejected, and I will mark this batch as "not uploaded" and replace it with a red stop. No uploads any more till they get their review process right again.

I've followed this thread since its inception and just thought it was the usual "complaint" vent. However, after waiting almost 2 weeks to have my last batch reviewed, everyone one of them rejected (previously 83% acceptance). 123 consistanly makes up 20% of my revenue so I'm not going to pull the plug on them but will treat them just like Fotolia; no more uploads and no "beg for re-evaluation".
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Post by: youralleffingnuts on May 21, 2010, 07:44
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Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: etienjones on May 21, 2010, 08:10
I uploaded 10 last night and they were already reviewed 6 hrs later. 8 out of 10 were rejected (Poor Lighting/Composition), a model with a very dark business suit, but lit well and with ample detail in the darks, as you can expect with a Canon 5DII and 2 700w lightboxes.

Four days earlier, 9 out of 10 of the same shoot were accepted but the model was wearing a light-toned dress.

I think Ivan's hypothesis is right. They are using an automated process or software to do a pre-evaluation on the light levels. This would explain the super-fast "review". The software is apparently totally dumb, as I had 80%+ acceptance in the 4 years I'm with 123RF, and with a worse cam. The fact that they currently agree to do a manual re-evaluation proves that they are aware of the software flaws. It's either this or the hiring of new totally ignorant reviewers.

I uploaded a bunch of editorial a while ago, and all of that was accepted, which indicates that the reviews were done manually by the old experienced reviewers.

I have no intent whatsoever to beg for re-evaluation. That's me. Don't want it? Fine, it will sell elsewhere. I even deleted the 2 ones that were accepted as they were not as good as the ones rejected, and I will mark this batch as "not uploaded" and replace it with a red stop. No uploads any more till they get their review process right again.



Same experience here.  Last batch had a 50% acceptance ratio with all those taken having a right leaning histogram.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: quamism on May 21, 2010, 10:18
I have recently started getting into the MS industry and although I have been a photographer for over 10 years I was not accustomed to the extreme quality standards of the MS industry.  So I submitted a bunch of my photos that were on my HD to a number of the MS agencies and most were declined and rightfully so. (Focus, noise, artifacts, the such).  7 out of 8 of the photos were accepted at 123rf. 

So there is something funny going on.  Im not going to complain because Im glad that they got accepted but it seems like the bad photos are being accepted and good ones rejected.   Maybe someone inversed the 0 - 1 setting on the software in it is doing the opposite of what it is suppose to.  LOL

Just thought I would share.  This is my first post.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: gaja on May 21, 2010, 10:29
I haven't been able to get the upload to work for the last week or two. It just crashes.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Roadrunner on May 21, 2010, 11:00
Based on some of the responses, I see why I have to concentrate on only three sites.

I am convinced some of us just aren't worthy of acceptance on some sites.  The Canon 5D MKII seems to be the only camera acceptable to one of the big boys.  No matter what I do - 90% or more gets rejected at a particular site.  123RF and FT are fussy, but not that tough.  Perhaps I should forget the Canon site as I am already locked into Nikon due to the lenses I have.  Of course if I try a Nikon D3s it might get something accepted.  I can't justify that kind of cash layout for microstock.  Especially since my biggest problem is choosing not to work with professional models and multiple lighting equipment.

So whether they call it overfiltered, composition, harsh lighting, no commercial value or too many, doesn't matter in some cases.  All of those can be valid reasons, but not all reviewers have the same vision, and some sites dictate policy that can bias the decisions.

I'll primarily concentrate on the three sites that seem to like my work, and that actually sell my images even if they come from the lowly held Nikon. 

Just keep plugging and don't wory about those that reject you.  Continue to work with those that appreciate your effforts.  Be thankful for your success no matter where it lies!
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: FD on May 21, 2010, 12:50
I've followed this thread since its inception and just thought it was the usual "complaint" vent. However, after waiting almost 2 weeks to have my last batch reviewed, everyone one of them rejected (previously 83% acceptance). 123 consistanly makes up 20% of my revenue so I'm not going to pull the plug on them but will treat them just like Fotolia; no more uploads and no "beg for re-evaluation".
+ 1. But I will delete all my accepted editorials. They are not worth it. Upload is blocked for a wile. Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: UncleGene on May 21, 2010, 21:17
Perhaps if more people stop uploading they will start to listen?

+1
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: FD on May 24, 2010, 07:56
An update. My last batch that was 8/10 rejected by 123RF for 'bad lighting' was accepted 10/10 by picky iStock. There is certainly something wrong with the "new" 123RF review process. For them, I hope they will come to their senses before the exodus starts. It costs Veer a lot of money now to get the deserters back that voted with their feet last year, by their weird reviewing practices.
For 7.63$ in May (compared to 33$ April 2009), I won't let my sleep. Well, those iPads have to be paid by somebody. If they want to promote their site with moronic sweepstakes as if they were a shampoo brand, polluting twitter, I am tempted to untweet them for that.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: sc on May 24, 2010, 11:46
Following this thread for a while and I was concerned for the last images I uploaded to 123rf.
I had two batches totaling 75 images all accepted, as usual.
Though they did take a while to get through the queue.
But I have found that rejected images are occasional if not rare at 123rf.
They are still a low earner for me (#5 on my list this month).
Sorry the rest of you seem to be having so much problem there,
but things are OK for some of us.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: disorderly on May 24, 2010, 13:20
I had a few rejections from my last big batch, but nothing shocking.  Right now 123's just a hair out of 4th and $3.50 behind DT for 3rd.  They've had more than usual server problems this month, but have otherwise been a fine second tier agency.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: luissantos84 on May 25, 2010, 21:18
I have just sent a email to 123RF.. will let you know how it went.. :P

have around 90% approval but the lastest batch just 3 approved of 47! (lighting/composition)

more confusing is that 40 accepted on SS and about 35 on FT
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: plrang on May 26, 2010, 12:48
+1 so I stopped submitting photos there until they will wake up, a waste of time.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: drop on May 27, 2010, 02:56

  >:( Poor Lighting/Composition
        Poor Lighting/Composition
        Poor Lighting/Composition
        Poor Lighting/Composition
        Poor Lighting/Composition,

i started thinking i waist my time there.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: borg on December 29, 2010, 16:02
I am mad!  >:( >:( >:(

Lately, they reject most of my new files...!
Some of them are already good earners on other sites, also main reason for rejections is "minimal commercial value"...
Who is crazy here?

Examples:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html)
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: pancaketom on December 29, 2010, 16:59
Same here on the last 13 I submitted all were rejected for "minimal commercial value".

Is that even worse than "limited commercial value"?

I guess I'll have to stop submitting there for a while 'til they decide they want images again.

At least the reviews are quick now.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: borg on December 29, 2010, 17:11
Yep  it is "Minimal commercial value" even worse than limited... ;D

Serious, if this continues, will become a "Sisyphus job" to upload here...
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: donding on December 29, 2010, 17:29
You'd think they would pay attention to what is being said here about the rejects and realize they are losing money. They have rejected a lot of my photos for that also and they are almost always big sellers on the other sites. My last set of 16 rejects were all rejected for "Minimal Commercial Value", and the 60 before that were rejected for "Poor Lighting/Composition" They obviously don't have trained reviewers or they need to have their monitors re calibrated. Uploading to them was one of my biggest mistakes. Now it's just sit and wait for a payout which I might reach in the next two years....it would be quicker if they actually approved the ones that sell. As soon as I hit it I'm out of there.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: luissantos84 on December 29, 2010, 17:32
oh yeah 123RF is the most craziest agency ever eheheh one day approves everything other day all got reject :)

if you have a minute send them email telling that other agencies approve those pictures (links lol a lot of work) but they will approve them..
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: donding on December 29, 2010, 17:40
I'm not going to mess with them...I'm tired of having to do all the work for these places. I have better things to do with my time. ;)
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: luissantos84 on December 29, 2010, 17:55
I'm not going to mess with them...I'm tired of having to do all the work for these places. I have better things to do with my time. ;)

I agree with you but I need to keep up there once they are my 4th best earner..
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: rubyroo on December 29, 2010, 18:49
I think it may be just one reviewer.  I complained on here a while back after several batches had a 90 - 100% acceptance rate across all other sites (including the big four), and only a 10% acceptance rate at 123RF.

Since then my batches have had an AR more in line with the other agencies, so I feel sure it's one reviewer that's out of synch with the others.  

ETA:  Hopefully 123RF will see these concerns and do some spot-checks on rejections.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: luissantos84 on December 29, 2010, 19:07
I think it may be just one reviewer.  I complained on here a while back after several batches had a 90 - 100% acceptance rate across all other sites (including the big four), and only a 10% acceptance rate at 123RF.

Since then my batches have had an AR more in line with the other agencies, so I feel sure it's one reviewer that's out of synch with the others.  

ETA:  Hopefully 123RF will see these concerns and do some spot-checks on rejections.

honestly I doubt anything will change, time to time this happens, donīt know if it is reviewer or other thing but it happens a lot..
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on December 29, 2010, 21:24
I am mad!  >:( >:( >:(

Lately, they reject most of my new files...!
Some of them are already good earners on other sites, also main reason for rejections is "minimal commercial value"...
Who is crazy here?

Examples:

[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url])


Hi Borg,

You may check your account now. Our reviewers have re-evaluate the rejected images. Happy New Year & Happy Holidays. :)


Cheers,
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on December 29, 2010, 21:30
Hi everyone,

Kindly forward us your UID and rejected images to [email protected] so that we can look into this for you.

Thank you for your kind assistance.

Happy New Year & Happy Holidays.


Warm regards,
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Canonbabe on December 29, 2010, 21:33
I am mad!  >:( >:( >:(

Lately, they reject most of my new files...!
Some of them are already good earners on other sites, also main reason for rejections is "minimal commercial value"...
Who is crazy here?

Examples:

[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url])


Hi Borg,

You may check your account now. Our reviewers have re-evaluate the rejected images. Happy New Year & Happy Holidays. :)


Cheers,
Anglee


WOW...I checked my account to and had a FEW of the minimal commercial rejections approved!! It feels like there is a bone given to keep a barking dog quit...... Funny to see that two images from one serie have different commercial values:):):) To be continued.....
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: borg on December 30, 2010, 08:46
I am mad!  >:( >:( >:(

Lately, they reject most of my new files...!
Some of them are already good earners on other sites, also main reason for rejections is "minimal commercial value"...
Who is crazy here?

Examples:

[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67557541/stock-photo-conceptual-view-of-an-internet-addict-during-calling-of-nature-in-the-toilet.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-67818976/stock-photo-closeup-sectional-view-of-wheat-germination-in-the-soil.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-65180464/stock-photo--conceptual-view-or-metaphor-about-hunting.html[/url])


Hi Borg,

You may check your account now. Our reviewers have re-evaluate the rejected images. Happy New Year & Happy Holidays. :)


Cheers,
Anglee


Thank you Anglee!

Now my "critical" files are approved!
 :)
Honestly, I do not want 100 percent approval of my photos,  just more and less constant level of criteria for evaluation...
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: rubyroo on December 30, 2010, 08:56
That's great to hear Borg.

I agree with you, consistency is all we want.  Hopefully 123RF will carry out those spot checks on rejections, as not everyone reads this forum, and many contributors just accept rejections and assume that a second review will bring a further disappointment.  Others are just to busy to keep going over old ground repeatedly.

Thanks, Anglee, for responding positively to legitimate concerns.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: pancaketom on December 30, 2010, 13:16
I did send a message as Anglee suggested above and it went from 0/13 to 8/13 accepted. That is reasonably in line with my normal acceptance ratio. Thanks for looking into it.

Hopefully if this was one reviewer just blanket refusing anything then that has been looked into. I realize that the reviewing process is inexact, but getting mass rejections is a waste of time for the submitter and the agency.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: CCK on December 30, 2010, 22:49
About 70% of my last batch was also rejected for  "Minimal Commercial Value". Some of the rejections are diong very well on other sites. I thinks a reviewer will look at a photo and ask himself "Will I buy this photo?" and if the answer is no, he will hit the rejection button without considering that that other might find it appealing.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Canonbabe on January 02, 2011, 08:55
There's really something strange going on: I submit files there since four years and always had a decent approval ratio but the last times I had all my submissions rejected because of "minimal commercial value" which NEVER happened before!

When I look in their latest images section or check the contributors with most uploads in the past 30 days I see loads of images I wouldn't buy myself but that doesn't mean they have a minimal commercial value? It depends on what the customer is looking for. If that customer is looking for a pile of dog crap one day, even that pile of dog crap can have a huge commercial value!
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Pixart on January 07, 2011, 13:19
They must be in a big hurry to get through the queue, I got a "Rejected" this morning.  No reason.  Just Rejected.  Kinda hard to learn from my mistakes, but oh well. 
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on January 09, 2011, 21:02
They must be in a big hurry to get through the queue, I got a "Rejected" this morning.  No reason.  Just Rejected.  Kinda hard to learn from my mistakes, but oh well. 


Hi Pixart,

Thanks for the headsup. Our reviewers have sent a site mail to you earlier on this issue. You may check it for further information.


Cheers,
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: bddigitalimages on January 10, 2011, 11:11
Not really sure what is going on, some batches have 6/6 thrown out then 3/5 thrown out and a EPS thrown out for the same reason and so on. I understand that I am new and have a small portfolio and all of that but when most of the other sites that I send to accept the same photos and these guys do not, it makes me wonder. The other part is that I cant figure out that if any of my photos are even being looked at as I have had zero sales with a portfolio of over 120 photos.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Angel on January 10, 2011, 21:22
Not really sure what is going on, some batches have 6/6 thrown out then 3/5 thrown out and a EPS thrown out for the same reason and so on. I understand that I am new and have a small portfolio and all of that but when most of the other sites that I send to accept the same photos and these guys do not, it makes me wonder. The other part is that I cant figure out that if any of my photos are even being looked at as I have had zero sales with a portfolio of over 120 photos.

Hi Bddigitalimages,

Please email us your UID and rejected images to [email protected] so that we can look into this for you.


Cheers,
Anglee
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: bddigitalimages on January 13, 2011, 07:01
Not really sure what is going on, some batches have 6/6 thrown out then 3/5 thrown out and a EPS thrown out for the same reason and so on. I understand that I am new and have a small portfolio and all of that but when most of the other sites that I send to accept the same photos and these guys do not, it makes me wonder. The other part is that I cant figure out that if any of my photos are even being looked at as I have had zero sales with a portfolio of over 120 photos.

Well now I must be on a roll, have now had 16/19 rejected and still no sales. Strange part is that I am getting 16/19 accepted at other sites, kinda makes you wonder doesn't it.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: Pixart on January 13, 2011, 21:00
They must be in a big hurry to get through the queue, I got a "Rejected" this morning.  No reason.  Just Rejected.  Kinda hard to learn from my mistakes, but oh well. 


Hi Pixart,

Thanks for the headsup. Our reviewers have sent a site mail to you earlier on this issue. You may check it for further information.


Cheers,
Anglee
I'm not too worked up about a rejection, but just so you know - the last sitemail I've received was 10 March 2010! 


While we are on the topic of 123 I have lost track of where to see what has been selling.  Can someone remind me where do I go to see today's sales, not just the account balance, but the actual photos that have sold.
Title: Re: Rejects at 123rf to clear the pending queue?
Post by: pancaketom on January 13, 2011, 23:13

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While we are on the topic of 123 I have lost track of where to see what has been selling.  Can someone remind me where do I go to see today's sales, not just the account balance, but the actual photos that have sold.

down at the bottom right click on the "more"

then click on "download" - that brings up the images sold.