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« on: April 27, 2010, 22:52 »
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I have had several editorial photos accepted, but I see that they have not gone live.   They don't show up as part of my portfolio, and they don't come up in a search.    Has anybody heard about when they are actually going to go on sale?

I've had reasonably good luck with selling editorial at Dreamstime and Bigstock, and I'm happy to give 123RF a chance as well.    I find that there is very little rhyme or reason as to which editorial submissions each site accepts.   Some of my best editorials (in my opinion) have been rejected at Dreamstime and/or Bigstock, but I'm pleased to see that they were accepted at 123RF.


« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2010, 02:49 »
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I have had several editorial photos accepted, but I see that they have not gone live.   They don't show up as part of my portfolio, and they don't come up in a search.    Has anybody heard about when they are actually going to go on sale?

I've had reasonably good luck with selling editorial at Dreamstime and Bigstock, and I'm happy to give 123RF a chance as well.    I find that there is very little rhyme or reason as to which editorial submissions each site accepts.   Some of my best editorials (in my opinion) have been rejected at Dreamstime and/or Bigstock, but I'm pleased to see that they were accepted at 123RF.


Hi Danybot, I've got over 500 editorial images ready to go live on 123. I emailed them about this a few weeks back and they replied that they were "looking at May". I think they are trying to hit a balance between leaving the launch too long (and having photographers get fed up waiting and stop uploading editorial) and launching too soon (and not having a good enough selection to interest editorial customers). Either way I guess the answer is "soon". BTW you didn't mention Shutterstock - for me this is one of the best sites for editorial sales. Good luck with your sales when they do go live. Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com

« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2010, 13:54 »
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I have had several editorial photos accepted, but I see that they have not gone live.   They don't show up as part of my portfolio, and they don't come up in a search.    Has anybody heard about when they are actually going to go on sale?

I've had reasonably good luck with selling editorial at Dreamstime and Bigstock, and I'm happy to give 123RF a chance as well.    I find that there is very little rhyme or reason as to which editorial submissions each site accepts.   Some of my best editorials (in my opinion) have been rejected at Dreamstime and/or Bigstock, but I'm pleased to see that they were accepted at 123RF.


Hi Danybot, I've got over 500 editorial images ready to go live on 123. I emailed them about this a few weeks back and they replied that they were "looking at May". I think they are trying to hit a balance between leaving the launch too long (and having photographers get fed up waiting and stop uploading editorial) and launching too soon (and not having a good enough selection to interest editorial customers). Either way I guess the answer is "soon". BTW you didn't mention Shutterstock - for me this is one of the best sites for editorial sales. Good luck with your sales when they do go live. Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com


i've had good results with editorials on both DT and SS; BigStock hasnt done much for any sales lately

123 is accepting editorials at a much higher rate than RF right now, probably to build their library

« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 02:14 »
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Just logged in. Editorial images are now live. Regards, David

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com

ap

« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 02:18 »
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oh, wow, that's pretty cool. thanx for letting us know.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 10:08 »
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Thanks, David:
I'll try a few.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 13:18 »
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Are editorial images kept as a separate portfolio? 

ap

« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 13:31 »
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no, they came up as the latest images along with the rest of my portfolio. they looked very good on the black frame background.

« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 05:20 »
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Also ap is currently ignored. Reasons: Pointless comments and cause turmoil.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 12:34 »
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Also ap is currently ignored. Reasons: Pointless comments and cause turmoil.

And what is the point of your post?

ap

« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2010, 00:42 »
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Also ap is currently ignored. Reasons: Pointless comments and cause turmoil.

i'm not sure what i said to turmoil you, but i shall wear your ignore button proudly as my first (probably not last) battle scar on the field of the msg forum.  :)
« Last Edit: May 16, 2010, 00:45 by ap »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2010, 17:34 »
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Just uploaded a large batch (40 is a bunch for me) of editorial images to 123rf.  I hope they go on sale pretty soon.  The editorial stuff is making quite a difference at SS, especially on the weekend.

Is anyone from 123rf seeing this?  Is editorial stuff actively selling yet?

« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2010, 18:02 »
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Slightly off topic  but is there enough of a interest to make money at micro rates on editorial images? Generally editorial is a smaller.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2010, 18:14 »
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Slightly off topic  but is there enough of a interest to make money at micro rates on editorial images? Generally editorial is a smaller.

I don't really have the portfolio to answer that Zeus, but ... I can't see that it matters whether you are selling RF or Editorial?  Micro is Micro, isn't it?

Counting what I've made on Cutcaster, my editorial income surpasses the RF sales, considerably.

Again, I am one of those with a portfolio too small to provide consistent analysis.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 12:01 »
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There seems to be little to no urgency in reviewing editorial.  I'm wondering just how serious 123rf is in branching into the editorial arena?  Priority seems to be on giving away iPods.   ;)

ap

« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2010, 12:51 »
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There seems to be little to no urgency in reviewing editorial.  I'm wondering just how serious 123rf is in branching into the editorial arena?  Priority seems to be on giving away iPods.   ;)

seems like they have their priorities straight, i'm getting mine this week (not from 123).

if sales are anything to go by, since 123 is already lagging dt, which is lagging ss (both editorial sellers), i don't expect much from 123's editorial sales. but one never knows.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2010, 13:28 »
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It was editorial sales at SS and DT that convinced me to give 123rf a chance.  One day doesn't mean a lot, of course, but yesterday was my best Sunday ever at SS.  7 of my 9 dnlds were editorial.  DT also offered some encouraging results.

I have high hopes for 123rf ... if they ever get around to reviewing images.  LOL

ap

« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2010, 14:21 »
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i think alamy may be the best market for your archival editorial work. one plus about 123 is that they are not restricting their editorials to just news events, but to also include street scenes, which is a bit more creative.

ap

« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2010, 14:58 »
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Slightly off topic  but is there enough of a interest to make money at micro rates on editorial images? Generally editorial is a smaller.

i don't get massive # of dl on my micro rf images in any case, so i don't know if my #s will be helpful to you. however, at ss, my editorial dl is about 20% of total, whilst making up 35% of the port. also, 30% of od are editorial and had one el. dt is insignificant but i haven't uploaded much to them.

« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 12:26 »
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i think alamy may be the best market for your archival editorial work. one plus about 123 is that they are not restricting their editorials to just news events, but to also include street scenes, which is a bit more creative.

actually all the places that take editorial DO accept non-news images, you just have to play the game -- eg, SS has VERY strict rules on what the caption looks like; most want at least a dateline, and that the caption reads like a news event, even if it isnt -- eg, in my tribal villager images, my normal caption would be "Bonda tribal woman", but for editorial they want "Bonda tribal woman poses for a portrait" and then these are accepted by SS, DT and BigStock


123 has been very fast in reviewing editorial - usually a day or 2, comapred with weeks for the regualr stuff

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WarrenPrice

« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 12:58 »
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I would agree but they seem to have fallen asleep again.  The test batch (editorial) was accepted almost immediately.   Sometimes I think 123rf will make uploading worthwhile ... then they seem to take a break ... just quit???

My latest batch of 40 editorial images is just in limbo.  The inconsistency is absolutely frustrating.

I know you guys are there ... I see you playing on Twitter.   >:(

« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2010, 16:36 »
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I got around 50 or 60 editorial pics, got my first sale at 123RF, Pope in Lisbon

WarrenPrice

« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2010, 16:56 »
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I got around 50 or 60 editorial pics, got my first sale at 123RF, Pope in Lisbon

Good news.  Congratulations.  I have 40 but none sold yet.

« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2010, 07:44 »
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I got around 50 or 60 editorial pics, got my first sale at 123RF, Pope in Lisbon


Congratulations Luis! Still waiting for my first editorial sale (with 474 live). Another 41 pending (going back a month). I'm still wondering when they will start to market the editorial collection -it's not even mentioned on their home page yet! Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com

WarrenPrice

« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2010, 11:46 »
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I got around 50 or 60 editorial pics, got my first sale at 123RF, Pope in Lisbon


Congratulations Luis! Still waiting for my first editorial sale (with 474 live). Another 41 pending (going back a month). I'm still wondering when they will start to market the editorial collection -it's not even mentioned on their home page yet! Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com


I had an email exchange, David, and was told they are preparing a "grand launch" and marketing campaign ... soon.
What bothers me is their seeming lack of concern for currency.   Editorial images should not set for days on end without review.  Glad I chose to test with "historical editorial" rather than anything "time sensitive."

« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2010, 12:52 »
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Don't care about 123RF "Low-Earner-Loser". Alamy and the othr macrostock-agencies are best for editorial pics. ;)

WarrenPrice

« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2010, 13:32 »
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Don't care about 123RF "Low-Earner-Loser". Alamy and the othr macrostock-agencies are best for editorial pics. ;)

You may be right.  Is your editorial selling well at Alamy?

So far, Cutcaster has worked best for my editorial.  That is some very specific, niche oriented, stuff, however.  Shutterstock is off to a good start.   Too early to say about Dreamstime.  Thought I would see what 123rf can do, too.  I'm satisfied with my start in RF there.

Alamy hasn't done a thing for me.   :P

« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2010, 14:03 »
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[quote author=WarrenPrice link=topic=10470.msg146813#msg146813 date=127463316

I had an email exchange, David, and was told they are preparing a "grand launch" and marketing campaign ... soon.
What bothers me is their seeming lack of concern for currency.   Editorial images should not set for days on end without review.  Glad I chose to test with "historical editorial" rather than anything "time sensitive."
[/quote]

Thanks for that information Warren. I was getting a bit concerned that their Editorial launch was confined to me posting "editorial images are live" on this site  ;D
Days on end? I've got stuff uploaded on April 24 still pending! Luckily nothing time sensitive - as you say "historical editorial". BTW it will be interesting to see if 123 editorial makes it on to the parent company site Inmagine.com -there is a note there saying that they are considering taking editorial images. Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com

WarrenPrice

« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2010, 17:38 »
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Anybody selling editorial stuff at 123rf? 
Better question is:  is anyone selling anything at 123rf?  :-\

« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2010, 21:06 »
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Hi everyone!

The editorial is live at 123RF.com.

You can view our newsletter at
http://bit.ly/9q0U8v for more information about the 123RF.com' editorial images if you haven't received or subscribed to our 123RF newsletter.

Here's the sample search for sports and leisure images at http://bit.ly/cSArtP .

Have a nice day!


Anglee

« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2010, 21:08 »
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Anybody selling editorial stuff at 123rf?
None yet.
Better question is:  is anyone selling anything at 123rf?  :-\
11$ in May.

The best question would be: when will they stop their automated and ridiculous review process? I had 9/10 rejected of my latest batch for "bad lighting", that was accepted 8/10 on iStock. As long as they don't come to their senses (stop their "review experiment") I won't upload there any more, and that includes my editorials.

« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2010, 02:22 »
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Anybody selling editorial stuff at 123rf?
None yet.
Better question is:  is anyone selling anything at 123rf?  :-\
11$ in May.

The best question would be: when will they stop their automated and ridiculous review process? I had 9/10 rejected of my latest batch for "bad lighting", that was accepted 8/10 on iStock. As long as they don't come to their senses (stop their "review experiment") I won't upload there any more, and that includes my editorials.

Like I have said days ago here I had my first editorial sale, a pope benedict!

WarrenPrice

« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2010, 08:57 »
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Like I have said days ago here I had my first editorial sale, a pope benedict!

Congratulations, Luis.  I did see that and was encouraged.  Wondering if others have had any success.   Hoping editorial gets going soon. 

Also, would like to offer kudos for 123rf; their review and acceptance procedure for editorial is very fast.  I uploaded a few last night and this morning they are accepted and online. 

PPS:  Last month was my best yet at 123rf for commercial sales.


 

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