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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2024, 13:34 »
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Ah that old question, that has no answer? What is Art?  :)

I think the article covers AI pretty well. If the prompt creates something that is like something else, or mimicking someone else, in the style of someone famous, it's not the fault of the AI, it's the fault of the human writing the prompt. By design, everything AI creates, is new and not a derivative.

I think there are still many people who are against AI, because they don't understand how training and creation works, or don't want to accept the facts. Machine learning, does not use the original images, in any way, when it makes something from the program. All the AI knows is language to styles, colors, patterns and bits and pieces. The original training data is never accessed again.

What is art and what's not? I think Andy Warhol is not art. He was popular, and trendy and used a photo copier to take others images and make something new. Talk about derivatives? Talk about stealing and copying. But people pay big money for his garbage.

I think Jackson Pollack is an artist, who created original and unique works. Other think he was a nut case and call him Jack the Dripper. I'd hand one of his works in my house. I wouldn't want to own a Warhol, unless it was to get rid of it, for a profit.

Piet Mondrian? Nope, how does paining geometric patterns, come off as one of the greatest artists of the 20th Century and abstract art? I don't get it?

Picasso, I get some of it, don't understand some of the rest. At some point, the creative style and expression, moves from fresh and new, into a cartoon of itself. I didn't say it's not art, I just think that at some point, it became a commercialized mockery of itself.

Opinions differ. But as far as AI imaging, I'm still not convinced it's actually creative Art. A machine makes it. Someone can argue the machine is the tool. Maybe, but I'm still not convinced that the person making the image, is personally connected to the specifics and details of every part of the image, that a machine has created. If a human isn't putting everything down on the canvas, the image, the illustration or whatever the AI output is, then a machine is doing it and making part of the decisions.

When human prompting gets complex enough that an artist can describe and place, every single element, texture, object, color, and background in an AI artwork, then I'm going to change my mind.

Someone who sees it differently, tell me how you visualize your work, before the prompt and know, before the AI makes the image, if it's going to be what you imagined? Or if it's something like what you described, but the machine came up with the final version?


 

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