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Author Topic: 10 years in alamy, should I give up?  (Read 1626 times)

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« on: December 22, 2019, 09:44 »
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Revenue flat, as sales climb in a steady pace.  The work involved to keyword and upload works out to be lower than north american minimum wage. 


« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2019, 09:45 »
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 10:00 »
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That's your call. We don't know what your X axis is, but if it's beefy, why quit? All of micro stock is going down the toilet, and I consider Alamy mostly MS.  My sales there swing wildly. I could make zero in one month and $800 the next.  Knowing that I just let my stuff ride for those good months, but set my expectations to zero.  You've got to decide what you want out of Alamy and if that income does not fit your value proposition then dump them.  But anyone in MS today is scratching and clawing for every penny they can get before they can't get anymore.  I have left many MS agencies over the years for revenue purposes because they did not fit my minimum needs, which I'll admit today have dropped significantly over the years.  I just sold a cover photo for a travel magazine and made as much in that one sale as I do on SS in a month.  I'm doing more and more outside of MS because my value proposition is almost fully eroded, but I do hang on...it helps pay my estimated taxes:)
« Last Edit: December 22, 2019, 17:18 by Mantis »

ShadySue

« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2019, 10:51 »
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Like Mantis says, why not keep your port up there for a while as a passive income, even if you don't feel the returns are worth submitting new content.

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2019, 13:01 »
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On the up and up for me but i suppose it's easier to show year on year growth when i just started uploading in 2015.

« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2019, 12:11 »
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Yeah but that is a gross revenue graph which bears no reality to what you actually receive.

My gross chart is almost exactly the same as yours but net revenue is exactly the same as the last couple of years i.e. flat

Though the numbers sold have increased very nicely the money didn't

I started with them in 2011

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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2019, 12:48 »
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Yeah but that is a gross revenue graph which bears no reality to what you actually receive.

My gross chart is almost exactly the same as yours but net revenue is exactly the same as the last couple of years i.e. flat

Though the numbers sold have increased very nicely the money didn't

I started with them in 2011

I've grown to accept that Alamy will probably never be like SS and that's fine. It's just a nice and unpredictable 2nd tier agency giving me 15% of my monthly net income on average. It's just all one big pie and on good months all the agencies contribute to the overall pie-yumminess.

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2019, 11:16 »
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I don't do as well as some of the people answering, (income or downloads) but I'd agree that passive income is "free money" and what you do get, you've done the work. I'd also agree that the income per download has dropped. Not unexpected. Aside from lowering their prices, many people don't have exclusive, which means 40% instead of 50%. Myself I get a small number of distributor sales, which are even less, in real numbers.

Not the best overlay, I was using some old screen captures that aren't identical size. But it's fairly representative. Sales increased for me, to an all time high, while income doesn't match the first year. Times have changed. I get on average, lifetime, $50 a download. But there's no average on Alamy. One might be $12 and the next $212. That's the spike for 2019 a $124 and then a $125 gross sale at 50%. Two others are $3.63 for just over a dollar, as they were distributor sales.

Good and not so good, but considering the numbers, those low sales are still more than I get on average from anyplace else. Like someone else said, one Alamy sale can equal a month of Adobe. SS wins on volume.

I must add an important detail. I do not have the same images, anywhere. Alamy has many exclusive, SS has many that no place else will accept/Editorial and Adobe has many that SS will not accept. Comparing different images, subjects and types of images.


Income is Red, sales blue

Just not the same as anyplace else, I don't really have a fair way to compare. RPD on SS is flat, with downloads dropping. RPD on Adobe is going up, and so are downloads. That's the three that matter to me.


« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2020, 06:01 »
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I haven't uploaded much for over a year and my earnings were slightly up last year.  I'll get beck to uploading this year.  I give them a lot of exclusive editorial images.

« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2020, 08:30 »
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As some others were saying, it's hard to know given we don't have the X axis.

In any case, keep in mind that the main issue with Alamy comes from the comparatively low volume of sales. It's therefore hard to predict anything, as you would need a much bigger sample to make any reliable analysis. This explains as well why the sales volume may seem inconsistent on a 6 months or even a year analysis. I have made on Alamy in five years more money than the top 4 turds together, and yet, the sales volume in 5 years is inferior to the monthly volume of these 4 turds.

« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38 »
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I still upload to Alamy even though it can be slow. I find the uploading process easy and then if I have some free time I tweak the keywording etc. The only thing I do immediately is tag the images as editorial if necessary. I've found Alamy's customer service pretty cool. They reached out to me not long ago about a customer that wanted to use an editorial image for a wall piece. I was able to lift the editorial status so the customer could download it, and I made a nice chunk of change. So, they're quite nice there and I'll stick with them since they pay well for the images that do get sold, even if they only sell occasionally!  :)

« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2020, 14:07 »
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I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I dont really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

ShadySue

« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 14:58 »
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I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I dont really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

No, my views are stable, and for some reason my CTR is relatively high (for me). (I see it was high last Jan too, doesn't necesarily mean anything, though: I have no sales this year so far, which is my slowest-starting year since 2012).


 

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