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« on: March 23, 2019, 22:36 »
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 Hi everyone, may I know how's alamy count the commission? The sales for the images is $ 21.71, but why there are "Alamy distribution commission and distributor commission and total is 70% charge fr Alamy? I thought they only charge 60% only?Thanks


« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2019, 01:29 »
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If the sale is by one of Alamy's partners/agents/pimps they get a generous cut as well.

dpimborough

« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 02:20 »
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Distributors get 40%
Alamy get 30%

You get 30% on distributor sales


« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2019, 05:32 »
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Alamy, who's only role is to host your image and sell it, enlisted another company to do the sale for them and that earned that mystery company 40% of the sale. For some reason, Alamy thinks they are entitled to an additional 30% of that sale, even though they didn't actually do anything. So you, the creator, copyright owner, the one who did all the work including cataloging and keywording, are left with a lousy 30%.

It would be like if I uploaded some of my friend's pictures for him on my Alamy account, and he got his 40% of each sale, but then I took an additional 30% because, of course,  Alamy should be thankful I got them the content, and then we only leave Alamy with 30%. I mean, why wouldn't Alamy would be cool with that? It would only be doing EXACTLY what they are pulling on us.

ShadySue

« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2019, 06:46 »
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Hi everyone, may I know how's alamy count the commission? The sales for the images is $ 21.71, but why there are "Alamy distribution commission and distributor commission and total is 70% charge fr Alamy? I thought they only charge 60% only?Thanks
Yes, you may know, and that's because Alamy is more transparent than most (all?) of the other micros, who either give you a flat rate for most (sub) sales, or you get a variable price per sale, but in neither case do you have a clue what your actual percentage of each individual sale is.
With Alamy, like it or not, it's broken down for you to see (as you don't see the value of the sale).
OK, on iStock you do see the value of the sale, but with PA, I'm not fully convinced that we get a percentage of the premium - that scheme is totally opaque.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2019, 08:44 by ShadySue »

« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2019, 09:22 »
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Alamy, who's only role is to host your image and sell it, enlisted another company to do the sale for them and that earned that mystery company 40% of the sale. For some reason, Alamy thinks they are entitled to an additional 30% of that sale, even though they didn't actually do anything. So you, the creator, copyright owner, the one who did all the work including cataloging and keywording, are left with a lousy 30%.

It would be like if I uploaded some of my friend's pictures for him on my Alamy account, and he got his 40% of each sale, but then I took an additional 30% because, of course,  Alamy should be thankful I got them the content, and then we only leave Alamy with 30%. I mean, why wouldn't Alamy would be cool with that? It would only be doing EXACTLY what they are pulling on us.
Alamy have secured a sale from setting up a contract with an agency which is hardly nothing. You could of course go to that agency and place your photos there and sell direct. If you have the time and they accept you.

« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2019, 12:27 »
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Alamy, who's only role is to host your image and sell it, enlisted another company to do the sale for them and that earned that mystery company 40% of the sale. For some reason, Alamy thinks they are entitled to an additional 30% of that sale, even though they didn't actually do anything. So you, the creator, copyright owner, the one who did all the work including cataloging and keywording, are left with a lousy 30%.

It would be like if I uploaded some of my friend's pictures for him on my Alamy account, and he got his 40% of each sale, but then I took an additional 30% because, of course,  Alamy should be thankful I got them the content, and then we only leave Alamy with 30%. I mean, why wouldn't Alamy would be cool with that? It would only be doing EXACTLY what they are pulling on us.
Alamy have secured a sale from setting up a contract with an agency which is hardly nothing. You could of course go to that agency and place your photos there and sell direct. If you have the time and they accept you.

So Alamy outsources their job to a 3rd party, that's fine. But shouldn't that come 100% out of their end? I don't care what they need to do to make sales anymore than they care what I need to do to create the content. If I were to hire a photographer to shoot for me, a model, rent gear or space, can I split those costs with Alamy? Hell no. But that would be the EXACT same thing to ask of them that they ask of us.

The companies make these crappy choices, and that's bad enough. But the reason we still have to deal with being treated like this is because of all the tireless defenders of these companies and their lying bs. You treat our relationships with the companies like an employee/employer situation and we should all be thankful they even hired us. That is simply not the case. They are agents enlisted to sell our content and make a fair commission for their efforts. We are supposed to be partners, not employees. But instead you guys roll over every time they take more and then you go even further to defend them at every turn. This is why this entire industry is going south, faster now than ever.

« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2019, 12:38 »
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Alamy, who's only role is to host your image and sell it, enlisted another company to do the sale for them and that earned that mystery company 40% of the sale. For some reason, Alamy thinks they are entitled to an additional 30% of that sale, even though they didn't actually do anything. So you, the creator, copyright owner, the one who did all the work including cataloging and keywording, are left with a lousy 30%.

It would be like if I uploaded some of my friend's pictures for him on my Alamy account, and he got his 40% of each sale, but then I took an additional 30% because, of course,  Alamy should be thankful I got them the content, and then we only leave Alamy with 30%. I mean, why wouldn't Alamy would be cool with that? It would only be doing EXACTLY what they are pulling on us.
Alamy have secured a sale from setting up a contract with an agency which is hardly nothing. You could of course go to that agency and place your photos there and sell direct. If you have the time and they accept you.

So Alamy outsources their job to a 3rd party, that's fine. But shouldn't that come 100% out of their end? I don't care what they need to do to make sales anymore than they care what I need to do to create the content. If I were to hire a photographer to shoot for me, a model, rent gear or space, can I split those costs with Alamy? Hell no. But that would be the EXACT same thing to ask of them that they ask of us.

The companies make these crappy choices, and that's bad enough. But the reason we still have to deal with being treated like this is because of all the tireless defenders of these companies and their lying bs. You treat our relationships with the companies like an employee/employer situation and we should all be thankful they even hired us. That is simply not the case. They are agents enlisted to sell our content and make a fair commission for their efforts. We are supposed to be partners, not employees. But instead you guys roll over every time they take more and then you go even further to defend them at every turn. This is why this entire industry is going south, faster now than ever.
We are in an industry where there is massive oversupply. We are not partners we are suppliers. Its economic reality. The concept of "fair" doesn't really come into it. I don't like it but that's the way it is.

PZF

« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2019, 09:13 »
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Amazing that they tell us how much the client pays as well as what we get...... :(  Guess many other sites would be utterly cringeworthy!

ShadySue

« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2019, 14:38 »
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Amazing that they tell us how much the client pays as well as what we get...... :(  Guess many other sites would be utterly cringeworthy!
iS/Getty gives us that info.

PZF

« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2019, 12:11 »
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Do they? Only via third party apps etc I s'pose....so I just don't go there. Would only upset me.

ShadySue

« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2019, 16:57 »
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Do they? Only via third party apps etc I s'pose
No, not only via these.
It's on the downloadable statements you get on the Royalties tab. The pdf is the quickest and easiest to read, of the options getty provides.

« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2019, 11:50 »
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I had a sale reported on 28th of December, Washington Post, 40$net, it hasn't been cleared yet. Should I contact Alamy about it or should I wait some more? After what time you contact Alamy, if sale hasn't been cleared?

ShadySue

« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2019, 12:12 »
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I had a sale reported on 28th of December, Washington Post, 40$net, it hasn't been cleared yet. Should I contact Alamy about it or should I wait some more? After what time you contact Alamy, if sale hasn't been cleared?
I do my first 'nudge' after three clear months, so you could do it now.

« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2019, 12:17 »
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I'll wait another week and then contact them.

dpimborough

« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2019, 16:32 »
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I had a sale reported on 28th of December, Washington Post, 40$net, it hasn't been cleared yet. Should I contact Alamy about it or should I wait some more? After what time you contact Alamy, if sale hasn't been cleared?

Most news outlets and TV stations appear to operate on a quarterly payment basis with Alamy so if you don't see it clear by the end of this week I'd give them a knock and keep reminding them.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2019, 10:39 »
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I had a sale reported on 28th of December, Washington Post, 40$net, it hasn't been cleared yet. Should I contact Alamy about it or should I wait some more? After what time you contact Alamy, if sale hasn't been cleared?

Most news outlets and TV stations appear to operate on a quarterly payment basis with Alamy so if you don't see it clear by the end of this week I'd give them a knock and keep reminding them.

Good to know. Seems like the larger accounts take longer, as their standard, and make one large payment, instead of lots of tiny ones.


 

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