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« Reply #125 on: November 22, 2012, 20:50 »
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I stand by my opinions, but regret if I was obnoxious in putting them across....
LOL I think if anybody else had written those posts nobody would have thought anything of it but you are known for your niceness.
Happy  Thanksgiving. :)


"I think if anybody else had written those posts nobody would have thought anything of it but you are known for your niceness."

yea same here!

It was totally our of character of lisafx!

I guess everyone can have a bad day, once and a while.

FWIW: lisafx, i (just) changed my name cause i started to write, what some might say derogatory comments abt many stock agency's. I say i started saying the truth, in a harsh way. and the powers that be here did not want to let me post them and blocked it.

Hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving. I am sooo stuffed!


« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2012, 00:09 »
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Can't we just enjoy what's good while it's good, rather than have to live in a constant state of gloom over what might come in the future?

It's one thing to be prepared for all eventualities, but to keep willing rain on a sunny day is just going to make every day a thoroughly miserable experience.  Life's too short for all this bleedin' misery. 

Cheer up!  *.


And this is why I started this thread:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/the-end-is-nigh-what-will-you-do/msg281074/?topicseen#new

Les

« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2012, 19:20 »
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I don't understand the need of having re-distributors in these "acces for everybody" internet days. It was more undesrteable ten or twenty years ago, when customers had to be reached through  more pedestrian means.

Because its one of the legal and safe ways how to take money from their contributors.
Just form (or indirectly join) another company and fund them with money taken away from original investors (graphics artists and photographers).

« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2012, 19:34 »
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The MS industry is so on shaky ground in terms of differentiation, sites looking for the easy way out employ the "money grab" strategy. That is to take more of YOUR money without fixing the root cause of the problem, which can be greed or constant cost overruns or technological or managerial incompetence. Why is it that a company like Alamy chooses to cut commissions..FOR THE THIRD TIME?  I believe that it is simple piss poor management who sees an opportunity to take a money grab because the rest of the industry is doing the same.  MS, with only a few participants 7 years ago, was okay for awhile until more entrants came into the market and had to fight pricing pressures. So rather than to create hard line strategies to win, they join the ranks of grab n go. Alamy may have come across as "being honest" in their announcement, but it is simply nothing more than a money grab in my mind.  They know it.  I know it.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2012, 19:40 by Mantis »

« Reply #129 on: November 25, 2012, 10:17 »
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I'm upset but like most others I'm caught in the trap and just have to accept their decision.

Eventually, this industry may become worthless for contributors, so finding other ways of monetising our work (direct sales, galleries, PoD, whatever) is a good thing to do, but I suppose most of us will ride the roller-coaster pretty much to the end.

The fact that they push us into looking for alternatives does affect them (and the long-term prospects for the industry) as it will mean more competition and fewer images going to the stock sites.

« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2012, 10:26 »
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I'm upset but like most others I'm caught in the trap and just have to accept their decision.

Eventually, this industry may become worthless for contributors, so finding other ways of monetising our work (direct sales, galleries, PoD, whatever) is a good thing to do, but I suppose most of us will ride the roller-coaster pretty much to the end.

The fact that they push us into looking for alternatives does affect them (and the long-term prospects for the industry) as it will mean more competition and fewer images going to the stock sites.

Hi Paul! wise words and thats exactly what will happen.

PaulieWalnuts

  • On the Wrong Side of the Business
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2012, 10:46 »
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I'm upset but like most others I'm caught in the trap and just have to accept their decision.

Eventually, this industry may become worthless for contributors, so finding other ways of monetising our work (direct sales, galleries, PoD, whatever) is a good thing to do, but I suppose most of us will ride the roller-coaster pretty much to the end.

The fact that they push us into looking for alternatives does affect them (and the long-term prospects for the industry) as it will mean more competition and fewer images going to the stock sites.

I'd agree. I've been working selling my work in non-stock channels for a couple years now. Ever since things started turning nasty with us being squeezed I started looking to diversify.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2012, 11:20 »
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I'm upset but like most others I'm caught in the trap and just have to accept their decision.

Eventually, this industry may become worthless for contributors, so finding other ways of monetising our work (direct sales, galleries, PoD, whatever) is a good thing to do, but I suppose most of us will ride the roller-coaster pretty much to the end.

The fact that they push us into looking for alternatives does affect them (and the long-term prospects for the industry) as it will mean more competition and fewer images going to the stock sites.

I'd agree. I've been working selling my work in non-stock channels for a couple years now. Ever since things started turning nasty with us being squeezed I started looking to diversify.

It's a vicious cycle; many of us came to stock from "other sources."  Printed media had a bad spell in early 80s.  I closed shop. 
Digital changed things.  I came out of retirement -- so to speak. 
Change seems to happen much faster than when we(I) was younger.

Careers continue to change.  Have and always will.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2012, 11:23 by WarrenPrice »

« Reply #133 on: November 27, 2012, 11:49 »
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 :'( As a photographer the commission cut really sucks! However, looking at the business side, I have to agree with James.
Using this time to build the business during a recession will be the best time to come out ahead as the global markets strengthen.
Freeing up some money to the company by cutting commissions if used properly the photographers will see more profits as a result of this, we all hope in the future.
As a real estate agent, the first company I went to work for gave me 80% commission, did not last very long since we did very little sales, made about 8K in 4 months, the next company I worked for gave me 60% and I went on to making over 100K that year because the company invested more to make the company highly visible and the best in the area. Was I happy to take the 20% hit on commission, hell no at first at the end of the year, hell yes.
If you read this James West, loosen up a bit on the acceptance rate, I am not saying accept everything, but there are a lot of very sell-able photos you are not accepting on Alamy, then you will attract more photographers to your site and you will see more photographers and clients it's that simple. 
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 11:57 by Goldcoinz »

ShadySue

« Reply #134 on: November 27, 2012, 11:56 »
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Freeing up some money to the company by cutting commissions if used properly the photographers will see more profits as a result of this, we all hope in the future.

They seem to want to expand their commercial collection and sales. I'm intrigued to see how they're going to take on the micros at their own game.

« Reply #135 on: November 27, 2012, 12:03 »
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Freeing up some money to the company by cutting commissions if used properly the photographers will see more profits as a result of this, we all hope in the future.

They seem to want to expand their commercial collection and sales. I'm intrigued to see how they're going to take on the micros at their own game.
Only time will tell, it could also be the demise of Alamy as a company! Can you really reinvent the wheel? Usually the answer to that question is no, however, you can make improvements, so can they take on the micros at their own game? Only time will tell with smart business tactics.

« Reply #136 on: November 27, 2012, 12:27 »
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When agencies cut commissions, they're making more money as of next week.   And they're finding there's no reason they can't keep on cutting - except for maybe just a gradual reduction in the supply of new, quality images - a problem for the distant future.

This is like heroin to these companies.

There's always a rationalization.  We're expanding the business, we're spending more on marketing (promise!), we need a new water heater.  But when that temporary, short term need is past, the commissions never go back up.   
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 13:30 by stockastic »

Poncke

« Reply #137 on: November 27, 2012, 12:55 »
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:'( As a photographer the commission cut really sucks! However, looking at the business side, I have to agree with James.
Using this time to build the business during a recession will be the best time to come out ahead as the global markets strengthen.
Freeing up some money to the company by cutting commissions if used properly the photographers will see more profits as a result of this, we all hope in the future.
As a real estate agent, the first company I went to work for gave me 80% commission, did not last very long since we did very little sales, made about 8K in 4 months, the next company I worked for gave me 60% and I went on to making over 100K that year because the company invested more to make the company highly visible and the best in the area. Was I happy to take the 20% hit on commission, hell no at first at the end of the year, hell yes.
If you read this James West, loosen up a bit on the acceptance rate, I am not saying accept everything, but there are a lot of very sell-able photos you are not accepting on Alamy, then you will attract more photographers to your site and you will see more photographers and clients it's that simple.
Why didnt they cut their charity funding by 10 percent points? Why hit the people that pay for their yachts and holiday homes? F**k Alamy.

« Reply #138 on: December 14, 2012, 17:07 »
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No point getting worked up about this when we've got the likes of Fotolia to worry about.

I don't see why anyone need worry about Fotolia. I left them over 2 years ago and don't miss them a bit. Just be done with them and end your worries.


 

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