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Agency Based Discussion => Alamy.com => Topic started by: icefront on October 28, 2013, 17:33

Title: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: icefront on October 28, 2013, 17:33
I can't find anything related to this when googling: how to submit an image that has 2 people on the image who are practically unrecognizable???
Here is the photo I'm talking about: (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/paintball-match-2266065.jpg)
If I select '2 people' and 'no model release', the license is grayed out. If I select 'no people', it's incorrect. Due to the fact that these people wear masks and the same protective wear during the event, they are practically unrecognizable.
I was thinking about a dummy release that may have no luck during the review, or some random releases assigned...
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: bunhill on October 28, 2013, 17:40
You either need to upload a valid model release or else sell the image as RM with no release. Alamy requires model releases for any visible people whether or not they could be identified if the image is RF.

If you sell the image RM at Alamy then you need to remove it from any sites where you are selling it RF.
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: heywoody on October 28, 2013, 18:01
I have lots of "people" images and select no people as they are not real.  You could interpret it as no recognisable people and see if you get a rejection and end up in the sin bin or email them for clarification.  It's a  a daft, not thought out, bit of data collection.
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: Snufkin on October 28, 2013, 18:11
I can't find anything related to this when googling: how to submit an image that has 2 people on the image who are practically unrecognizable???


You are not supposed to upload it as RF if you don't have a release.
These 2 may be practically unrecognizable but theoretically they might be recognizable from the context.
On Alamy if you don't have a release you are not supposed to upload as RF even photos containing body parts, as hands, legs, etc. Even if the person is far away and 5 pixels tall, these 5 pixels count as a person.
You can submit it as RM. This is Alamy. Dura lex, sed lex.

Read this:
http://www.alamy.com/Blog/contributor/archive/2008/02/25/2681.aspx (http://www.alamy.com/Blog/contributor/archive/2008/02/25/2681.aspx)

I had a very similar case when I started on SS in 2008. I submitted a commercial photo, the inspector accepted it but changed it to editorial (there was no requirement about the editorial caption back then).
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: Mantis on October 28, 2013, 18:11
I had a bunch of images put in the "fix me" queue due to no model releases.  The funny thing is it was clothing on a hanger and I stuffed plastic baggies in the suit to make it look like someone was actually wearing it.  I just uploaded my own model release ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: w7lwi on October 28, 2013, 20:35
They want a release if only a body part is visible.  I had an image of a hand holding a pair of chopsticks.  After a year or so they came back and said it was a "people" shot and had to have a MR.  I told them to take it down as it was selling well elsewhere as RF with no release required and I wasn't about to supply one for something as idiotic as this.
Title: Re: Alamy: how to submit photo of unrecognizable people
Post by: icefront on October 29, 2013, 19:45
Thank you for your responses. These are really helpful.

I really like the "stuffed plastic baggies" and the "recognizable hands". - another example of coded rules that `can't be done in an another way`. So an another example why to go self-hosted.