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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2021, 08:58 »
+4
Well a macrostock became a microstock site. That's it!

Yes indeed but I guess they really have no options left but to turn Micro-stock or else they bite the dust. Like so many others!...besides Alamy have touted micro-stock photographers for ages they did it here at the MSG a few years back!

Yes, Mid-Stock at best and now they are Microstock. James used to say "We are not Microstock" but reminder, Alamy was sold. All bets off...


Brasilnut

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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2021, 05:48 »
+3
I'll gladly take <$1 when Alamy also gives >$200+ as I've seen today.

Thanks Alamy, after 6 months I no longer want to be broken up with you...

« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2021, 21:24 »
+2
I'll gladly take <$1 when Alamy also gives >$200+ as I've seen today.

Thanks Alamy, after 6 months I no longer want to be broken up with you...
Good times are gone! :(
A macrostock became a microstock site! Sad!

Take a look, your image is on The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/01/the-mystery-of-the-gatwick-drone
« Last Edit: April 24, 2021, 21:33 by alexandersr »

« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2021, 01:38 »
+1
I'll gladly take <$1 when Alamy also gives >$200+ as I've seen today.

Thanks Alamy, after 6 months I no longer want to be broken up with you...

Congrats! Just hope your customer doesn't request a refund from Alamy in 6  months.  ::)
Seems to happen with 1/4 of my sales there by now.

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2021, 03:41 »
+1
I'll gladly take <$1 when Alamy also gives >$200+ as I've seen today.

Thanks Alamy, after 6 months I no longer want to be broken up with you...
Good times are gone! :(
A macrostock became a microstock site! Sad!

Take a look, your image is on The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/01/the-mystery-of-the-gatwick-drone

Oh that sale only earned me a whopping $15.62 gross, which is gross.

« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2021, 23:03 »
+2
I'll gladly take <$1 when Alamy also gives >$200+ as I've seen today.

Thanks Alamy, after 6 months I no longer want to be broken up with you...
Good times are gone! :(
A macrostock became a microstock site! Sad!

Take a look, your image is on The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/01/the-mystery-of-the-gatwick-drone

Oh that sale only earned me a whopping $15.62 gross, which is gross.

Better than 10 cents no matter how you slice it  ;)

« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2021, 17:05 »
0
I was twice refused by Alamy because I was using a compact camera.

Nowdays I look at their site to pick-up ideas for photos to load to their rivals who are not so pedantic about which camera you use.

Alamy have always had a list of unacceptable cameras such as compact cameras and phone cameras

most of my accepted images (3500) at alamy are with 'unacceptable cameras'

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2021, 17:38 »
0
I was twice refused by Alamy because I was using a compact camera.

Nowdays I look at their site to pick-up ideas for photos to load to their rivals who are not so pedantic about which camera you use.

Alamy have always had a list of unacceptable cameras such as compact cameras and phone cameras

most of my accepted images (3500) at alamy are with 'unacceptable cameras'

Really? I uploaded only one, by an honest mistake, and it was 'dropped' at the upload stage with a message that the camera wasn't approved. That was years ago, though.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2021, 09:06 »
0
I was twice refused by Alamy because I was using a compact camera.

Nowdays I look at their site to pick-up ideas for photos to load to their rivals who are not so pedantic about which camera you use.

Alamy have always had a list of unacceptable cameras such as compact cameras and phone cameras

most of my accepted images (3500) at alamy are with 'unacceptable cameras'

They do read the camera data from the EXIF. I tried a stitch, which made a P&S into a 45MP image. Then brought it down. Refused for camera. I thought I stripped the data. Not worth all the trouble to get some panorama passed.

https://www.alamy.com/blog/alamys-rough-guide-to-digital-cameras

The list is gone.

Unsuitable Cameras

When we say unsuitable we mean cameras that are consistently unable to produce images that meet our guidelines.

    Forget megapixel count, mobile phones and compact cameras are designed to be small and manageable and that means less room for large sensors and lenses
    Almost all compact cameras, fixed lens cameras SLR-like Bridge Cameras and all mobile phones cannot produce images that meet our guidelines
    Some older DSLRs are also unsuitable due to their overall poor quality, small sensors and age


Let me say, if some agency says, "we only take photos from full frame sensor cameras" that's their choice. Just like Stockimo only takes photos from Apple iphones (not Android! and that makes me wonder about Apple  tablets?)

But the point is, Alamy says what they want and what reasons and that's the way it is.

Meanwhile back at distributor sales. Sad what has happened to the value of our work. After years, instead of residual and some reliable income, it has been devalued nearly everywhere.

« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2021, 18:04 »
0
I was twice refused by Alamy because I was using a compact camera.

Nowdays I look at their site to pick-up ideas for photos to load to their rivals who are not so pedantic about which camera you use.

Alamy have always had a list of unacceptable cameras such as compact cameras and phone cameras

most of my accepted images (3500) at alamy are with 'unacceptable cameras'

Really? I uploaded only one, by an honest mistake, and it was 'dropped' at the upload stage with a message that the camera wasn't approved. That was years ago, though.

it appears the meta is checked by a human, since i dont try to disguise my uploads - it's a silly rule anyway - if an image meets technical requirements, accept it.

also, i recently found out that if you submit multiple small batches, as soon as they find an error, all batches are rejected. and they only review a sample of what's submtted, not all images

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2021, 11:37 »
0
I was twice refused by Alamy because I was using a compact camera.

Nowdays I look at their site to pick-up ideas for photos to load to their rivals who are not so pedantic about which camera you use.

Alamy have always had a list of unacceptable cameras such as compact cameras and phone cameras

most of my accepted images (3500) at alamy are with 'unacceptable cameras'

Really? I uploaded only one, by an honest mistake, and it was 'dropped' at the upload stage with a message that the camera wasn't approved. That was years ago, though.

it appears the meta is checked by a human, since i dont try to disguise my uploads - it's a silly rule anyway - if an image meets technical requirements, accept it.

also, i recently found out that if you submit multiple small batches, as soon as they find an error, all batches are rejected. and they only review a sample of what's submtted, not all images

Been that way from the start, one fail all fail.

Correct also, they don't review every image, they look at a page of thumbnails, and if something looks questionable, they look full size. That was in one of the conferences years ago. Now they have the star system and some of the people with 5 stars have reported images flying through review faster than ever. I'm only a 3 star I still have to wait for some human to look at my images.

Their basic philosophy has always been, if the image passes, it doesn't matter if it's brown dog poop, on a bent stick on a brown sand beach, it's accepted if it's sharp and clean. But included in that was the huge size requirements which later became defined by an approved camera list and is now pretty roughly, DSLR size sensor not megapixels, and they also clearly state, why a phone or smaller sensor is not what they want. No mystery in that?

What changed has been a reaction to smaller sensor cameras, and phones that produce larger images. So it doesn't make sense to say, must be an 18 Megapixel image when taken on a phone could be that and be unsuitable for their standards.

I wonder if I take something with a 10-D at 6MP if it will be rejected for unsuitable now?  ??? They do say, some older cameras will not meet the current requirements, even though they are a DSLR. I'm not testing. I got into trouble that way years ago, trying to see how far I could push with Bridge cameras or a P&S when I did a 100 MP image, made from dozens of P&S shots.

The reason I supposed the software read the EXIF is some images are rejected before review. That doesn't county as a rejection, just as a refused image before review, because it doesn't meet requirements. Seems illogical that a reviewer would have to look at the camera data. I could be wrong.

The agency has a right to require anything they want for uploads. They could say only 24MP images and above. This has nothing to do with reasoning or being open to uploads from people who don't have the required equipment. Alamy makes the rules, that's what it is. Arguing is a waste of time, because we don't run them and they aren't reading here. Even if they did... they don't change requirements based on forum appeals based on contributor needs or opinions. None of them do.



Meanwhile back at the OP, 14c wouldn't make me happy. I haven't gotten one of those yet, and I'm hoping I never do.

« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2021, 14:59 »
0
Just had a bunch of $0.03 (net) sales. Hooray!

« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2021, 00:01 »
0
Just had a bunch of $0.03 (net) sales. Hooray!

Same here!  8)
« Last Edit: May 12, 2021, 00:07 by Zero Talent »

PZF

« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2021, 02:43 »
0
Yep, 2 sales at 10c, no commission to me.

Great.

And Contributor support seems to have been replaced with a bot sending a standard email to whatever question you might ask....

Wonderful.

« Last Edit: May 12, 2021, 05:21 by PZF »

« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2021, 06:29 »
0
Yep, 2 sales at 10c, no commission to me.

Great.

And Contributor support seems to have been replaced with a bot sending a standard email to whatever question you might ask....

Wonderful.

You do have a commission (royalty) of .03 cents.  30%. Now see if that even buys you a single peanut.

« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2021, 09:30 »
0
Yep, 2 sales at 10c, no commission to me.

Great.

And Contributor support seems to have been replaced with a bot sending a standard email to whatever question you might ask....

Wonderful.

You do have a commission (royalty) of .03 cents.  30%. Now see if that even buys you a single peanut.

And I hope everyone is paying attention to our inflationary times after governments
spend trillions trying to deal with the world's health crisis. That dime that Shutterstock gives you or .03 cents royalty from Alamy covers the effort it took for
your index finger to press down on the shutter release. Everything else you did: Driving to the location. Setting up. Getting the perfect shot. Going home. Down-
loading. Working on the image. Submitting. Keywording, etc. Is ignored and the
money goes into their pockets. Oh! But wait! That $0.10 is American currency! It could be as much as $0.13 if you're living in another country! Enough to buy two peanuts!

« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2021, 09:43 »
0
Two $0.03 sales here. what is this?!

« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2021, 10:15 »
0
Two $0.03 sales here. what is this?!
From Alamy or Getty  Image/Istock ?
The low sell from Alamy have been $ 0,99
Country: Worldwide
Usage: Student Projects, For non-commercial use in projects such as dissertations, presentations or essays.
Industry sector: Education
23 MB
3504 x 2336 pixels
2 MB compressed
Image Size: Any size
Start: 06 September 2019
Duration: In perpetuity :)

PZF

« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2021, 10:23 »
0
I did track down a PERSON at Alamy. :)

Seems the 10 cent sales are for Distribution - formerly Novel Use I seem to recall?

I thought I had these turned off and had never seen any before, so wonder if the default has been reset to permit these....

Anyway, for info.

« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2021, 10:52 »
0
5 MB
1608 x 1068 pixels
459KB compressed
Bulk discount, flat rate   $ 0.27

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2021, 13:44 »
+1
I did track down a PERSON at Alamy. :)

Seems the 10 cent sales are for Distribution - formerly Novel Use I seem to recall?

I thought I had these turned off and had never seen any before, so wonder if the default has been reset to permit these....

Anyway, for info.

Apparently 'Distribution' and 'Novel Use' can still be opted out of, separately. (I don't remember them ever being connected.)
Distribution is where other agencies have sold the images, like a subcontractor, so we only get 30%, and some of the sales can be very small, especially if a bulk rate is applied by the distributor.
We can separately opt 'in' or 'out' of individual countries in the distribution network.

It's hard to remember all the ins and outs. When I went to look, I saw I had opted into 'Image Options' in 2017, and I had to look up what it meant!

« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2021, 10:23 »
0
Just had a bunch of $0.03 (net) sales. Hooray!

Ohh wow that's low. I was just about to start with Alamy. Is it not worth trying now?

PZF

« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2021, 16:04 »
0
It seems that Novel Use and Distribution can only be opted out during the month of April! SERIOUSLY!

Guess the default is that we are all opted in hence this flurry of 10 cent sales.

I can't say I recall any communication about this......

:(

« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2021, 17:06 »
0
Just had 0$ sale on the sidebar, in sales it's 0.10, I get what?

« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2021, 17:16 »
0
Just had 0$ sale on the sidebar, in sales it's 0.10, I get what?

.03 cents.  These are their distributor sales that you have to opt out of, but you can only opt out in April of each year. 


 

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