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Agency Based Discussion => Alamy.com => Topic started by: stokfoto on August 20, 2008, 15:16

Title: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: stokfoto on August 20, 2008, 15:16
I finally got my first sale there ,which was sweet.I have not been there for  that  long so I'd like to raise some questions to those who are more experienced:

is alamy payment automated? or do I need to make a payment request.

I know there is a certain period of time before the payment  would be made(was it three months??)

lastly my image was sold with a traditional license,which is a new concept for me so here is the question the license covers a certain period of time (3years ie) does that mean I can not re-sell that image until the period is over and if the answer for that  is yes than do I need to do something about it.I mean do I need to  put restriction to the file for that period or is it automatically done??

Thank you very much for your reply in advance
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: RT on August 20, 2008, 15:33
You can only get payment once your cleared balance reaches $250 or more, so if your sale wasn't for that amount you'll need to wait.

If it was you should have already set up how you want to be paid within your account settings, once the payment has cleared it will show up in your account and you will be paid on the 1st of the month following automatically.

The 3 month bit you've heard about is that some account holders can declare usage up to three months after the date they downloaded the image, then they have 45days to pay (alledgedly!) usually it's within a month. FYI if the sale has shown up in your account it most likely means you'll get the cleared payment next month.


Re the license, no you don't have to do anything, just leave it as it is and you can keep selling it, a RM license enables a buyer to request an images previous usage, it does not indicate any form of exclusivity, you don't have to set restrictions either - again that only needs to happen if you've sold the image under an exclusive deal either outright or within an industry sector, Alamy will contact you directly if that ever happens so don't worry about it.

Hope this is clear and helps
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: stokfoto on August 20, 2008, 15:42
Thank you so much Richard,
you have been  great help.I appreciate it.I got all the answers to  my  questions.
Than the payment should be made soon  as the file  was sold  almost a month ago

regards
stokfoto
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on August 20, 2008, 17:25
It needs to show as cleared in the account balance, then it will be paid at the end of the month and only if cleared balance is over $250. Some sales can take a long time to clear.
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: RT on August 20, 2008, 18:06
Thank you so much Richard,
you have been  great help.I appreciate it.I got all the answers to  my  questions.
Than the payment should be made soon  as the file  was sold  almost a month ago

regards
stokfoto

No problems and congrats on the sale by the way.

I forgot to mention, if you can get paid directly into your bank account, Alamy charge you for writing a cheque, that's on top of what they charge for foreign exchange fee as well (unless you're in the US of course)
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: Adeptris on August 21, 2008, 07:29
Richard

If the Image is on other sites as RM, should not the photographer add restrictions on the other sites, for the same image and useage?

David
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: stokfoto on August 21, 2008, 08:20
once again thank you all for taking your time to reply.

I think you are right David but the image I sold is not on sale elsewhere so Richard is right with his remarks too.but thank you for the heads up I will bear that in mind when uploading RM images to multiple sites.

Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on August 21, 2008, 09:58
Richard

If the Image is on other sites as RM, should not the photographer add restrictions on the other sites, for the same image and useage?

David

As long as the images are not sold with distinct usage restrictions it does not matter. That is why Alamy has a L and and RM. Most agencies want RM images exclusively for this reason, however Alamy is not one of them.
Title: Re: Alamy payment and licensing question?
Post by: RT on August 21, 2008, 11:14
Richard

If the Image is on other sites as RM, should not the photographer add restrictions on the other sites, for the same image and useage?

David

Hi David,

The simple answer is no, buying a licensed or rights managed image has nothing to do with affording the buyer with any form of exclusivity to the image.

However what it does do is give the buyer an opportunity to enquire as to it's previous and any current licenses, and then they can make the decision as to whether they buy it or not.

For a contributor it means they can sell a license for an image to be used in different industry sectors at different prices according to usage, size etc. And keep a copy of any such license sales, and if they so desire they can set restrictions to maintain control over what sectors the image is used in.

So for example if I have the same image for sale as a L/RM image on four different sites and I sell it through say Alamy to the banking industry for three years it does not mean I have to set any restrictions on any of the other sites, however if I'm contacted by another site and asked for it's previous license history I have to tell them, then the buyer can make their decisions as to whether it's previous usage conflicts with their requirements.
But say a banker buys the license for my image one day there is nothing to stop another banker buying and using the same image the next day.
To stop this they need to buy the license with an exclusivity deal attached, and in that case the site will contact you and negotiate a deal and then restrictions need to be set on the other sites.
This can happen automatically if you set your images for sale as RP - Rights Protected, in that case the site handles the negotiation on your behalf.

Some sites require image exclusivity, but that doesn't mean the actual license is any different to what I've described above.

In short a Licensed or Rights Managed license is not actually much different to a RF one except you pay differing amounts according to what the image is being used for and you have a mild form of sales history.

A Rights Protected license is the only one in which a buyer can safeguard themselves from either another company in the same industry from using the image for a set period of time or they can even purchase full user rights which means nobody else can use it for a set period of time. At which point in the Macro world the contributor starts rubbing his/her hands.

Hope I made it understandable.