Pauws99. I just voiced my opinion. Please respect it and I will respect yours.

Quote from: ravens on October 21, 2019, 02:47

Alamy, respect your contributors! Be charitable to us!
I signed up to contribute to a photo agency , not do charity. Charities should be kept completely separate.

I'm not sure that Alamy's profit margin is any different to the rest of the industry what difference would it make if they spent the profit on coke and lapdancers? When you signed up to them their business model was quite open.

Pauws99. I just voiced my opinion. Please respect it and I will respect yours.

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 21, 2019, 03:29

Quote from: ravens on October 21, 2019, 02:47

Alamy, respect your contributors! Be charitable to us!
I signed up to contribute to a photo agency , not do charity. Charities should be kept completely separate.

I'm not sure that Alamy's profit margin is any different to the rest of the industry what difference would it make if they spent the profit on coke and lapdancers? When you signed up to them their business model was quite open.

Nowhere was your opinion disrespected.
Even with indie files, you get 40% via Alamy, which is more than you get from other agencies. With distributor sales you get 30%, which is about what you get from other agencies, (except iS if indie).
If they weren't funding their charities they wouldn't exist at all.
So it's up to you, contribute to them, or don't.

You expressed your opinion about their modus operandi, Paws expressed an opinion about your opinion, that's how a forum works.

Isn't giving for charity also a way to pay less taxes? 

Quote from: ravens on October 21, 2019, 03:50

Pauws99. I just voiced my opinion. Please respect it and I will respect yours.

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 21, 2019, 03:29

Quote from: ravens on October 21, 2019, 02:47

Alamy, respect your contributors! Be charitable to us!
I signed up to contribute to a photo agency , not do charity. Charities should be kept completely separate.

I'm not sure that Alamy's profit margin is any different to the rest of the industry what difference would it make if they spent the profit on coke and lapdancers? When you signed up to them their business model was quite open.

I'm with you ravens. Blowing on about your charity generosity a few months after cutting commissions by 20% is not a good look.

When did they cut the commission 20% in the last few months. What did I miss?

I'm still getting 50% on exclusive and 40% on non-exclusive? I was getting 50% since about 2010 if I remember right? That's 10%

Personally I don't care about their charity or board, I'm only interested in what I make.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 22, 2019, 12:51

When did they cut the commission 20% in the last few months. What did I miss?

I'm still getting 50% on exclusive and 40% on non-exclusive? I was getting 50% since about 2010 if I remember right? That's 10%

Personally I don't care about their charity or board, I'm only interested in what I make.

10 is 20% of 50.
So each indie file sold earns you 20% less that it would have had it been 50%

Oh that modern math again where a 10% cut is a 20% cut? The post should have said, 20% loss in potential earnings then, not 20% cut?

Changing commission from 50% to 40% is a 10% reduction in commission, no matter how anyone wants to slice it.

Blowing on about your charity generosity a few months after cutting commissions by 20% is not a good look.

Note, it uses the word commissions, not income or earnings?

And no I still don't care about their charity, I care about what they pay me! Selfish, aren't I?

Going from 50% to 40% is a 20% reduction in the commission you will earn.
Going from 100% to 90% would be a 10% reduction.
I remember when they promised us that they would never cut our commission again after going from 60% to 50% (a 17% cut).
It's old math...or the "new math" I learned in the 1960's LOL...which is now old math...

Sorry, Uncle Pete, just giving you a hard time, but the real point is that it is a bigger cut than it first appears.

I didn't mind so much when they first posted about their charities, since the charity was the impetus for the stock site to begin with. But after looking at the loss they wrote off last year in their Annual Statement, I'm not sure I believe they needed to cut commissions to improve operational costs. They said that earnings are flat, so the cut gives them 20% more revenue to work with. Seeing them pay dividends to their directors, write off a huge loan, and then brag about how charitable they are, without any info on just how they are going to improve operations, well, it certainly rankles.

Apologies to Shady Sue I somehow missed that your explanation and mine were nearly identical.

Quote from: wordplanet on October 22, 2019, 19:15

Going from 50% to 40% is a 20% reduction in the commission you will earn.
Going from 100% to 90% would be a 10% reduction.
It's old math...or the "new math" I learned in the 1960's LOL...which is now old math...

 I remember when they promised us that they would never cut our commission again after going from 60% to 50% (a 17% cut).

More than anything, it is really disappointing. I didn't mind so much when they first posted about their charities, since the charity was the impetus for the stock site to begin with. But after looking at the loss they wrote off last year in their Annual Statement, I'm not sure I believe they needed to cut commissions to improve operational costs. They said that earnings are flat, so the cut gives them 20% more revenue to work with. Seeing them pay dividends to their directors, write off a huge loan, and then brag about how charitable they are, without any info on just how they are going to improve operations, well, it certainly rankles.

Agree with the above (we posted the arithmetical working-out simultaneously!)
Also, they were very aware of percentages given by most of their rivals (essentially crowd-sourced agencies) when they made their decision.

LOL I just saw your post and amended mine with an apology for having repeated what you said.
They do have the best commissions out there, and, like you, I think, I've been a big Alamy supporter, but they are losing some of my support.

Didn't our good Lord say something about when you give to the needy you shouldn't call attention to yourself. Yes, it is in Matthew 6:3, when you give to charity, don�t even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be secret.

Didn't our good Lord say something about when you give to the needy you shouldn't call attention to yourself. Yes, it is in Matthew 6:3, when you give to charity, don�t even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be secret.

Yebbut Alamy hasn't said that Christianity is in their DNA.

Quote from: ShadySue on October 23, 2019, 04:18

Quote from: shiyali on October 23, 2019, 01:42

Didn't our good Lord say something about when you give to the needy you shouldn't call attention to yourself. Yes, it is in Matthew 6:3, when you give to charity, don�t even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be secret.

Yebbut Alamy hasn't said that Christianity is in their DNA.

Same thing is expressed in many cultures, "Good deeds should be done with intention, not for attention.", "A good deed dies, when it is spoken about", "Do charity silently, or else the charity is you", etc

If everything were equal, there is a group of contributors who would prefer to be associated with a charity enterprise they considered worthwhile than one which was run purely for profit or to pay off a debt. How would they know this was a possibility if they weren't informed?
Not that everything is equal. 'Better charities are available' (subjective opinion), the directors awarded themselves big bonuses and they'd rather throw huge amounts of money on James West's hobby/side hustle than promote their core business.

Are we still getting DACS payments in October or did these go to charity as well?

Quote from: Brasilnut on October 23, 2019, 02:50

P.s UK taxpayers are already paying part of their tax towards the UK's commitment towards overseas aid (which includes social programs in India) - 0.7% of GDP (source: https://www.theweek.co.uk/63394/foreign-aid-how-and-where-is-britain-s-budget-spent)

Wow, I hadn't realised it had sunk so low. Still, with all the money being wasted on Brexit I suppose I should be relieved it isn't lower.
Still, I'm not sure how naming and shaming the UK for its current poor Overseas Aid Programme is relevant to this thread - and other countries do worse - indeed the very article you quote says the UK is the only country which has met it's UN target, so not sure why you've singled us out at all.

I didn't read it as an attempt to shame....the opposite in fact.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 22, 2019, 13:20

Quote from: ShadySue on October 22, 2019, 13:14

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 22, 2019, 12:51

When did they cut the commission 20% in the last few months. What did I miss?

I'm still getting 50% on exclusive and 40% on non-exclusive? I was getting 50% since about 2010 if I remember right? That's 10%

Personally I don't care about their charity or board, I'm only interested in what I make.

10 is 20% of 50.
So each indie file sold earns you 20% less that it would have had it been 50%

Oh that modern math again where a 10% cut is a 20% cut? The post should have said, 20% loss in potential earnings then, not 20% cut?

Changing commission from 50% to 40% is a 10% reduction in commission, no matter how anyone wants to slice it.

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 21, 2019, 03:29

Blowing on about your charity generosity a few months after cutting commissions by 20% is not a good look.

Note, it uses the word commissions, not income or earnings?

And no I still don't care about their charity, I care about what they pay me! Selfish, aren't I?

Semantics aside*, you are still being paid 20% less on your non-exclusive files, and that's all you care about.

*and no matter how you look at it, it's still a 20% reduction in commission.
If they went from 100% to 90%, that would be a 10% cut.
50% > 40% is a 20% cut.

And what is it from 60% to 40%? I'm trying to grasp at a bold number like 20% but I suppose that's wrong.