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Like Mantis says, why not keep your port up there for a while as a passive income, even if you don't feel the returns are worth submitting new content.

Yeah but that is a gross revenue graph which bears no reality to what you actually receive.

My gross chart is almost exactly the same as yours but net revenue is exactly the same as the last couple of years i.e. flat

Though the numbers sold have increased very nicely the money didn't

I started with them in 2011

I don't do as well as some of the people answering, (income or downloads) but I'd agree that passive income is "free money" and what you do get, you've done the work. I'd also agree that the income per download has dropped. Not unexpected. Aside from lowering their prices, many people don't have exclusive, which means 40% instead of 50%. Myself I get a small number of distributor sales, which are even less, in real numbers.

Not the best overlay, I was using some old screen captures that aren't identical size. But it's fairly representative. Sales increased for me, to an all time high, while income doesn't match the first year. Times have changed. I get on average, lifetime, $50 a download. But there's no average on Alamy. One might be $12 and the next $212. That's the spike for 2019 a $124 and then a $125 gross sale at 50%. Two others are $3.63 for just over a dollar, as they were distributor sales.

Good and not so good, but considering the numbers, those low sales are still more than I get on average from anyplace else. Like someone else said, one Alamy sale can equal a month of Adobe. SS wins on volume.

I must add an important detail. I do not have the same images, anywhere. Alamy has many exclusive, SS has many that no place else will accept/Editorial and Adobe has many that SS will not accept. Comparing different images, subjects and types of images.


Income is Red, sales blue

Just not the same as anyplace else, I don't really have a fair way to compare. RPD on SS is flat, with downloads dropping. RPD on Adobe is going up, and so are downloads. That's the three that matter to me.

As some others were saying, it's hard to know given we don't have the X axis.

In any case, keep in mind that the main issue with Alamy comes from the comparatively low volume of sales. It's therefore hard to predict anything, as you would need a much bigger sample to make any reliable analysis. This explains as well why the sales volume may seem inconsistent on a 6 months or even a year analysis. I have made on Alamy in five years more money than the top 4 turds together, and yet, the sales volume in 5 years is inferior to the monthly volume of these 4 turds.

I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I don�t really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

Quote from: Astrantia on January 12, 2020, 14:07

I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I don�t really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

No, my views are stable, and for some reason my CTR is relatively high (for me). (I see it was high last Jan too, doesn't necesarily mean anything, though: I have no sales this year so far, which is my slowest-starting year since 2012).

This is terribly not related but I wanted you to see the post, since you do searches for... searches, views, All of Alamy and that kind of thing. I never knew how much we could sort and control the results.

https://www.regular-expressions.info/quickstart.html

| (that's the pipe symbol) can be used as OR in a search, % seems to be what we'd normally use as a wildcard like * in other searches. I bookmarked this and maybe some day I'll learn more. But mostly should be useful for Alamy searches?

What shall I say- Alamy is performing great since they were sold..... Had a 188 $ sale today, a 36 $ sale last week, views went up and CTR is 1,03 for me now....
Amazing.
Such a change.
There must be a whole new bunch of clients after the sale. Buyers who like my kind of photos.....

Quote from: ShadySue on January 12, 2020, 14:58

Quote from: Astrantia on January 12, 2020, 14:07

I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I don�t really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

No, my views are stable, and for some reason my CTR is relatively high (for me). (I see it was high last Jan too, doesn't necesarily mean anything, though: I have no sales this year so far, which is my slowest-starting year since 2012).

This is terribly not related but I wanted you to see the post, since you do searches for... searches, views, All of Alamy and that kind of thing. I never knew how much we could sort and control the results.

https://www.regular-expressions.info/quickstart.html

| (that's the pipe symbol) can be used as OR in a search, % seems to be what we'd normally use as a wildcard like * in other searches. I bookmarked this and maybe some day I'll learn more. But mostly should be useful for Alamy searches?

Yes, you can search e.g. % New York, because although searching New York would give you New York theatres, New York shops, New York parks etc, it wouldn't show e.g. Manhattan, New York or Central Park, New York, so if you're looking for searches on New York, you have to do both.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 26, 2020, 09:56

Quote from: ShadySue on January 12, 2020, 14:58

Quote from: Astrantia on January 12, 2020, 14:07

I have a strange decline in views since beginning of december.......
I usually had about 800 views per month and it suddenly dropped to something like 300...
Over the last 4 days there were only 15 views of my pictures.....

Has anybody else noticed something like that as well?

I mean I don�t really sell much stuff on Alamy anyway but if nobody even views my pics I might opt out as well......

No, my views are stable, and for some reason my CTR is relatively high (for me). (I see it was high last Jan too, doesn't necesarily mean anything, though: I have no sales this year so far, which is my slowest-starting year since 2012).

This is terribly not related but I wanted you to see the post, since you do searches for... searches, views, All of Alamy and that kind of thing. I never knew how much we could sort and control the results.

https://www.regular-expressions.info/quickstart.html

| (that's the pipe symbol) can be used as OR in a search, % seems to be what we'd normally use as a wildcard like * in other searches. I bookmarked this and maybe some day I'll learn more. But mostly should be useful for Alamy searches?

Yes, you can search e.g. % New York, because although searching New York would give you New York theatres, New York shops, New York parks etc, it wouldn't show e.g. Manhattan, New York or Central Park, New York, so if you're looking for searches on New York, you have to do both.

Yes and reading the details with the either or search, specific words and all the potential, pretty good. The problem is, most buyers and users will never learn or use all these available tools. But I know you are interested in the search and how agencies have vague search qualifications.

What shall I say- Alamy is performing great since they were sold..... Had a 188 $ sale today, a 36 $ sale last week, views went up and CTR is 1,03 for me now....
Amazing.
Such a change.
There must be a whole new bunch of clients after the sale. Buyers who like my kind of photos.....

Maybe you are watching too close? One message you say your views are down and you are thinking of leaving, the next you are seeing them as preforming great, since they were sold. From the usual reporting times and buyers, considering the sale just went through, do you really believe your sales upswing is because of new owners, when nothing has changed?

Alamy is slow to change, slow to report, slow to pay, and for all of us, sales are not consistent. You had low views and you want to leave? You get some sales and everything has changed? I think what you might consider is, the flux and variations in sales, also regions and returns, at Alamy. I know I get a $120 sale, or two, and then the next month 3 $3.63 or $11 (those numbers are gross) downloads. Followed by nothing for two months. Alamy is highly irregular.

When buyers need images, they will buy them. When they don't need what I make, they don't buy them. I don't actually watch CTR and views, which maybe would be good for finding what buyers are looking for. I do what I do, upload what I like and that's been the same since 2008. If you are like some others and follow the trends, then that's good. If you create new based on trends and views, that's good too. Good as a tool for making new images.

But watching my own views and CTR, just to watch, has never helped sales in any way. It's more like, watching the pot boil, when you could just turn on the heat and go away for 10 minutes, then see if it's boiling or not? Watching or not, doesn't change what's actually happening? 

Here's to more sales like this month and maybe some of that success will spill over to mine?

Quote from: ShadySue on February 26, 2020, 18:01

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 26, 2020, 09:56

| (that's the pipe symbol) can be used as OR in a search, % seems to be what we'd normally use as a wildcard like * in other searches. I bookmarked this and maybe some day I'll learn more. But mostly should be useful for Alamy searches?

Yes, you can search e.g. % New York, because although searching New York would give you New York theatres, New York shops, New York parks etc, it wouldn't show e.g. Manhattan, New York or Central Park, New York, so if you're looking for searches on New York, you have to do both.

Yes and reading the details with the either or search, specific words and all the potential, pretty good. The problem is, most buyers and users will never learn or use all these available tools. But I know you are interested in the search and how agencies have vague search qualifications.

I'm only talking about using these when actually looking at Alamy Measures. When I'm checking which pics to delete first, I'm looking at subjects with no searches in the past year. It would be rather silly if I checked spingleplonk without also searching % spingleplonk, because then I'd be missing colour spingleplonk, size spingleplonk, material spingleplonk and all manner of others.

I wasn't at all thinking of whether customers use them to search.

NB, we had an Alamy staff member at a social meetup last year, and she astonished us by saying that if a search shows in Measures with quotes, like "Joe Bloggs", that's because a staff member has searched. I have no idea whether that meant absolutely no searchers use quotes, or that public searches using quotes have them dropped in measures. It wouldn't say much for Alamy's buyers if it were the former, because putting quotation marks round a two or more word search really helps to clean up that Alamy 'feature' which matches any word in the caption or keywords with any other word in the caption or keywords, which can lead to really poor results depending on the algorithms in use.