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« on: September 26, 2012, 03:52 »
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Why oh why does Alamy use this strange system and there's a 45 day waiting period for all earnings to get 'cleared'? This month in particular I'm way over the payout limit, but probably won't get my money in October since the earnings from August aren't cleared yet. I don't think any other site does that. 


ShadySue

« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 04:13 »
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Why oh why does Alamy use this strange system and there's a 45 day waiting period for all earnings to get 'cleared'? This month in particular I'm way over the payout limit, but probably won't get my money in October since the earnings from August aren't cleared yet. I don't think any other site does that.
A goodly proportion of Alamy customers have an account, hence time to pay. Definitely the UK Newspapers, which corresponds with the way they report to UK tax.

I've never heard of 45 days. I've had less and I've had much, much longer.

It's a PITA, but presumably it's a boon to the accounting of certain customers, and is an advantage of Alamy over, say, the micros.

« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 05:51 »
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Why oh why does Alamy use this strange system

It's not a "strange system", it's common business practise. It's the "credits" and "subscriptions" that are strange.

« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 06:03 »
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Why oh why does Alamy use this strange system

It's not a "strange system", it's common business practise. It's the "credits" and "subscriptions" that are strange.
Does Getty or Corbis do that ?

« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 06:37 »
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Does Getty or Corbis do that ?
I don't know about Getty or Corbis, but I'm with another midstock agency and they report sales - and pay for them - quarterly...

« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 06:37 »
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Why oh why does Alamy use this strange system

It's not a "strange system", it's common business practise. It's the "credits" and "subscriptions" that are strange.
Does Getty or Corbis do that ?

I meant a broader perspective, almost every other business-to-business works with billing.

« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 18:26 »
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my alamy sales are sporadic - been waiting several months for the additional $0.52 to push me into payout

« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 21:02 »
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There's more to it than just waiting to get paid.  During that time, the "buyer" can decide he doesn't want to buy the image after all, and get a refund.  You then see a debit in your account, offsetting the original payment.  So a sale isn't a sale until the money is "cleared".

There was another thread about this a few weeks ago.

« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 03:10 »
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How much earnings do you need for a payout?

« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 19:57 »
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How much earnings do you need for a payout?

$175 is the minimum payout amount.  I probably won't see my payout until November :/

« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 06:49 »
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Thanks,  I won't see pay out for a while either.  I have got one sale cleared from the end of May and another from the beginning of June for a total of about 30$ and nothing cleared since then.

« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 03:35 »
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Looking at the 'Balance of account' page I noticed that in the "Paid" column along side the dates (for the 'cleared' sales) there are also 'x' and 'o' signs. Does anyone know what's the difference ?
My last cleared sale is from 17 July.

Poncke

« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 03:41 »
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Looking at the 'Balance of account' page I noticed that in the "Paid" column along side the dates (for the 'cleared' sales) there are also 'x' and 'o' signs. Does anyone know what's the difference ?
My last cleared sale is from 17 July.

All the answers are on Alamy. Exactly on the same page right above the word paid.

Paid Key - X = Uncleared, O = Cleared, MM/YYYY = Date paid




RacePhoto

« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 13:53 »
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Looking at the 'Balance of account' page I noticed that in the "Paid" column along side the dates (for the 'cleared' sales) there are also 'x' and 'o' signs. Does anyone know what's the difference ?
My last cleared sale is from 17 July.


All the answers are on Alamy. Exactly on the same page right above the word paid.

Paid Key - X = Uncleared, O = Cleared, MM/YYYY = Date paid



Try this, it's the ultimate solution to the X's and O's on Alamy:



When you get three X's in a row, they pay you.  ;)


« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 15:32 »
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I am absoloutely sure that the only reason people stick with Alamy is because they offer a fair percentage and thats even if they dont sell a damned thing, in which case its all too easy to offer a fair percentage.
A friend of mine is with them, he is earning a small fortune every single month with two other Rm/Rf agencies but with Alamy, Zip.

Poncke

« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 17:49 »
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They have a thread over there that says how was your September, someone is reporting 8k$$ for September. Thats not nothing. But then again, also loads of people selling f-all

« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2012, 01:01 »
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Looking at the 'Balance of account' page I noticed that in the "Paid" column along side the dates (for the 'cleared' sales) there are also 'x' and 'o' signs. Does anyone know what's the difference ?
My last cleared sale is from 17 July.


All the answers are on Alamy. Exactly on the same page right above the word paid.

Paid Key - X = Uncleared, O = Cleared, MM/YYYY = Date paid



Try this, it's the ultimate solution to the X's and O's on Alamy:



When you get three X's in a row, they pay you.  ;)


Now that makes more sense actually ;)

@Poncke Thanks. I feel like a total idiot for not seeing this. What's the english phrase? The darkest place is under the candlestick

As for sales ... last 3 months were pretty good. Hope this will continue.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2012, 07:02 by Mopic »

« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2012, 01:08 »
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They have a thread over there that says how was your September, someone is reporting 8k$$ for September. Thats not nothing. But then again, also loads of people selling f-all


Yes and thats Jeff, who has a 12K picture portfolio! with that incredible amount of pictures and in an Rm/Rf agency I would want to earn the same if not twice as much.

RT


« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2012, 04:20 »
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They have a thread over there that says how was your September, someone is reporting 8k$$ for September. Thats not nothing. But then again, also loads of people selling f-all


Yes and thats Jeff, who has a 12K picture portfolio! with that incredible amount of pictures and in an Rm/Rf agency I would want to earn the same if not twice as much.

Actually he has 87,595 images on Alamy for which he quotes an "above average $8k gross" (at best that's only $4.8k nett), it's not something I consider to be spectacular, mind you his 'style' of snap away and upload everything seems to impress some people and you can't deny it proves the statement that "any old cr*p can sell", I once saw somebody mention he was in the top 2 at Alamy, believe me he's nowhere near. Not knocking what he does but he's not someone I'd recommend to anyone as a role model, if Alamy ever closed shop he'd lose his income.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2012, 04:23 by RT »

« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2012, 04:40 »
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They have a thread over there that says how was your September, someone is reporting 8k$$ for September. Thats not nothing. But then again, also loads of people selling f-all


Yes and thats Jeff, who has a 12K picture portfolio! with that incredible amount of pictures and in an Rm/Rf agency I would want to earn the same if not twice as much.

Actually he has 87,595 images on Alamy for which he quotes an "above average $8k gross" (at best that's only $4.8k nett), it's not something I consider to be spectacular, mind you his 'style' of snap away and upload everything seems to impress some people and you can't deny it proves the statement that "any old cr*p can sell", I once saw somebody mention he was in the top 2 at Alamy, believe me he's nowhere near. Not knocking what he does but he's not someone I'd recommend to anyone as a role model, if Alamy ever closed shop he'd lose his income.

Hi!  87K images, Youre not kidding are you?  and exclusive to Alamy. Dangerous game to play.

RT


« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2012, 05:44 »
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Hi!  87K images, Youre not kidding are you?  and exclusive to Alamy. Dangerous game to play.

You strike me as someone who's been in traditional stock for a while, check out his portfolio, do you think he has a choice about being exclusive to Alamy!

« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2012, 07:01 »
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RacePhoto

« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2012, 01:41 »
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I suppose the reason he is exclusive on AL is no one else will take his shots? ??? (a joke!)

He's not exclusive on Alamy and has been shooting since 1998, selling other places.

http://www.alamy.com/pressreleases/2011/earn_money_from_your_photos.asp

Sept. 2011 article says 79,000

Currently 87,716 on alamy

http://www.alamy.com/search/ImageResults.aspx?st=0&lic=6&lic=1&ns=1&qt=Jeffrey+Greenberg&go=1&a=-1

He's listed as Miami Beach, FL.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 17:04 by RacePhoto »

ShadySue

« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2012, 06:42 »
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They have a thread over there that says how was your September, someone is reporting 8k$$ for September. Thats not nothing. But then again, also loads of people selling f-all


Yes and thats Jeff, who has a 12K picture portfolio! with that incredible amount of pictures and in an Rm/Rf agency I would want to earn the same if not twice as much.

Actually he has 87,595 images on Alamy for which he quotes an "above average $8k gross" (at best that's only $4.8k nett), it's not something I consider to be spectacular, mind you his 'style' of snap away and upload everything seems to impress some people and you can't deny it proves the statement that "any old cr*p can sell", I once saw somebody mention he was in the top 2 at Alamy, believe me he's nowhere near. Not knocking what he does but he's not someone I'd recommend to anyone as a role model, if Alamy ever closed shop he'd lose his income.

Hi!  87K images, Youre not kidding are you?  and exclusive to Alamy. Dangerous game to play.

Are we still talking about Jeff? He's not exclusive to Alamy.

« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2012, 19:45 »
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So when should I start emailing support about earnings not clearing?  I have a sale from July 18th that hasn't cleared yet.  They really need to make those pages easier to read and deal with.


 

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