Author Topic: Commission lowered to 20% (Read 15893 times)

klod · « **on:** May 17, 2021, 07:34 »

I just read the new contributor contract. The highlight: if you make less that $250 in commission during the fiscal year will, your commission will be lowered to 20%.

ShadySue · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2021, 07:51 »

Check out some of the other clauses too. Not good.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2021, 08:16 »

Discussion already going at https://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/alamy-revised-contract-more-'good-news'/msg563987/

gnirtS · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2021, 08:19 »

Looks like midstock just went microstock.

Just got that email as well and dig around the clauses.

From what i can see, *NEW* accounts after July 1st go to gold (40%) and after a year get reviewed.

For others:

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12.13 if the Alamy Commission is Alamy Silver and your total License Fees, net of any refunds, exceeds $250 at any point during the Revenue Year then the Alamy Commission will automatically revert to Alamy Gold. Should any subsequent refund take your License Fees below the $250 threshold as set out in clause 12.12, the Alamy Commission will revert to Alamy Silver.

So a lot of existing accounts that are relatively low earning will get knocked from 40% to 20%.

A revenue year is July 1 - June 30.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2021, 08:52 »

Oh that's too bad - they were about the only place I was thinking to keep contributing. At least that makes it easy to decide where to spend my time in the future.

Dumc · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2021, 09:05 »

Kind of hard reaching 250$ mark when you get sales like this:

11/5/2021       RF   0.27   -0.19   0.08
14/5/2021       RF   0.25   -0.15   0.10
17/5/2021       RF   3.45   -2.41   1.04

Zero Talent · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2021, 09:19 »

Quote from: Dumc on May 17, 2021, 09:05

Kind of hard reaching 250$ mark when you get sales like this:

11/5/2021       RF   0.27   -0.19   0.08
14/5/2021       RF   0.25   -0.15   0.10
17/5/2021       RF   3.45   -2.41   1.04

They are talking about the total license fees, not just the net, right?

Dumc · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2021, 09:24 »

I think it was net, but not sure, I just quickly went through it, I saw some mentioning of net....

Zero Talent · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2021, 09:27 »

Quote from: Dumc on May 17, 2021, 09:24

I think it was net, but not sure, I just quicly went through it, I saw some mentioning of net....

They say net of any refunds.

At the end of each Revenue Year if your total License Fees for that year, net of any refunds:
are less than $250 then the Alamy Commission for sales of your Content in the following Revenue Year will automatically switch to Alamy Silver as outlined in the Alamy Commission Table; or
are greater than or equal to $250 then the Alamy Commission for sales of your Content in the following Revenue Year will remain on Alamy Gold for that year, as outlined in the Alamy Commission Table.

So I guess, it's the total revenue as reported on the dashboard.

Anyway, I get more than this in a month, so I don't see it as a problem.

gnirtS · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2021, 17:44 »

Total revenue minus refunds makes no sense.
Otherwise if someone is on 40% and gets downgraded to 20% it becomes much harder to ever get back up to that 40% level as you've halved each sales income.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2021, 17:49 »

Quote from: gnirtS on May 17, 2021, 17:44

Total revenue minus refunds makes no sense.
Otherwise if someone is on 40% and gets downgraded to 20% it becomes much harder to ever get back up to that 40% level as you've halved each sales income.

The total revenue on the dashboard is made of your share, Alamy's share, and distro share, all together, minus refunds.
That's what I believe is being used, so it doesn't matter if your share is 20% or 40%, the revenue is the same. That makes sense. Unless I'm wrong.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2021, 21:39 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on May 17, 2021, 17:49

Quote from: gnirtS on May 17, 2021, 17:44
Total revenue minus refunds makes no sense.
Otherwise if someone is on 40% and gets downgraded to 20% it becomes much harder to ever get back up to that 40% level as you've halved each sales income.

The total revenue on the dashboard is made of your share, Alamy's share, and distro share, all together, minus refunds.
That's what I believe is being used, so it doesn't matter if your share is 20% or 40%, the revenue is the same. That makes sense. Unless I'm wrong.

That's how I read it too.

panicAttack · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2021, 04:43 »

If I drop there from 40 to 20 will remove my entire portfolio. sick and tired.

kall3bu · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2021, 06:04 »

Quote from: panicAttack on May 19, 2021, 04:43

If I drop there from 40 to 20 will remove my entire portfolio. sick and tired.

I asked them today already for that.

ShadySue · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2021, 06:18 »

Quote from: panicAttack on May 19, 2021, 04:43

If I drop there from 40 to 20 will remove my entire portfolio. sick and tired.

Are you earning <$250 gross from them in a year?

panicAttack · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2021, 10:30 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 19, 2021, 06:18

Quote from: panicAttack on May 19, 2021, 04:43
If I drop there from 40 to 20 will remove my entire portfolio. sick and tired.
Are you earning <$250 gross from them in a year?

for 2020 total revenue was 331 usd gross (my part was ofcorse lower)
for this year it's 72 gross

the moment I drop from 40 to 20 they will not have right to sell my copyrighted content.

ShadySue · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2021, 10:36 »

If they don't revise some of their new clauses in clear, unambiguous wording, I won't be there either.

BigBubba · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2021, 12:43 »

Just as I thought 250$ in commission is not a problem for me personally...I had 2 sales for 10 cents each. I never had a 10c sale on Alamy, so maybe 250 will be a challenge after all.

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alexandersr · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2021, 13:09 »

In this year 2021 i have done in Alamy to now $29, probably i will be screwed with 17% 20%.

Zalee · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2021, 16:23 »

In the last three years one was just under $250 gross and two were well over. This year will be touch and go. I only have a small portfolio of 1,000 images but only a small percentage are exclusive. I will change that after July to no exclusives.

Some of the wording is a worry also so will reassess next month. They certainly won't care if I'm not there.

gnirtS · « **Reply #20 on:** May 20, 2021, 19:00 »

Not sure it matters if i get 40% or 20% the way Alamy is going so far...

trek · « **Reply #21 on:** May 20, 2021, 20:03 »

Quote from: BigBubba on May 19, 2021, 12:43

Just as I thought 250$ in commission is not a problem for me personally...I had 2 sales for 10 cents each. I never had a 10c sale on Alamy, so maybe 250 will be a challenge after all.

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I have not had any sales for less than $3. I opted out of novel use along time ago. Perhaps the penny sales are from that. Are you opted in for novel use?

Note: I'm currently opted in for distributor sales (but reconsidering) and will drop exclusivity (specialty items) soon.. since I see no upside to continuing with that.

kall3bu · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2021, 04:42 »

As I understand:
Set RM and we can optout that novel or private use, which to often is used from the customers for other use and alamy is not doing anything against that - well, newly they want to start to investigate it for exclusive contributors, which will be soon nearly zero contributors, because they now change all to non exclusvie again because of the new exciting announcement.

But for me still left is the question about RM and RF:
When it NOW with the new announcement it will be good to set images to RM instead of RF? alamy even can give them away for free and with RF even we set it for RM.
Is there any sense left for setting RM?
AND:
Lets say we have an image which is great for advertising: Should it not better to set it RF? Otherwise they would not buy it if set to RM?
And images which are not good for advertisment, but just special images because a special flower image, we cannot find anywhere else. But who will buy it for that high price on Alamy? But RM makes sense in this case, isn´t it?

I am totally confused. Pls try to explain for me. Thx.

ShadySue · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2021, 04:58 »

Quote from: trek on May 20, 2021, 20:03

Quote from: BigBubba on May 19, 2021, 12:43
Just as I thought 250$ in commission is not a problem for me personally...I had 2 sales for 10 cents each. I never had a 10c sale on Alamy, so maybe 250 will be a challenge after all.

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I have not had any sales for less than $3. I opted out of novel use along time ago. Perhaps the penny sales are from that. Are you opted in for novel use?

Note: I'm currently opted in for distributor sales (but reconsidering) and will drop exclusivity (specialty items) soon.. since I see no upside to continuing with that.

I'm out of NU and always have been, and RM only, and have had sales netting <20c (not as low as 3c, though).

blue · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2021, 07:14 »

Quote from: kall3bu on May 21, 2021, 04:42

As I understand:
Set RM and we can optout that novel or private use, which to often is used from the customers for other use and alamy is not doing anything against that

Novel Use is an additional revenue option you can opt in/out for all your port globally, RF or RM.
Private use is an option you can opt in/out for each of your RM images only.

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