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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2021, 07:51 »
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As I understand:
Set RM and we can optout that novel or private use, which to often is used from the customers for other use and alamy is not doing anything against that
Novel Use is an additional revenue option you can opt in/out for all your port globally, RF or RM.
Private use is an option you can opt in/out for each of your RM images only.

And if I opt out in both cases: RM still makes sense? - If Alamy anyway can sell them for RF and for free?
Well, we do not know how many customer buys via this and the other way. So usual buyer on Alamy, then RM still makes sense?


« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2021, 09:42 »
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As I understand:
Set RM and we can optout that novel or private use, which to often is used from the customers for other use and alamy is not doing anything against that
Novel Use is an additional revenue option you can opt in/out for all your port globally, RF or RM.
Private use is an option you can opt in/out for each of your RM images only.

And if I opt out in both cases: RM still makes sense? - If Alamy anyway can sell them for RF and for free?
Well, we do not know how many customer buys via this and the other way. So usual buyer on Alamy, then RM still makes sense?
RM gives you more options (restrictions actually) than RF to manage the way your images can be licensed by Alamy. So yes, RM still makes sense in my opinion.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2021, 11:16 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2021, 11:25 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.

Maybe that answers my question? I can still have exclusive images on Alamy but they won't be paid at 50% anymore. The small benefit, might be, they will search for infringements. Yes, that pretty much removes any incentive for putting anything up on Alamy as exclusive.

« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2021, 11:48 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.
Thanks for sharing. No further information about the distributor's share...

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2021, 11:52 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.
Thanks for sharing. No further information about the distributor's share...
Well, no concrete information.  ::)
"We work with around 80 different distributors and the rate varies per partner. We always negotiate for the best deal available with each opportunity. We cannot share details of these individual contracts. We are working to add more partners to ensure we can reach as many potential customers around the world as possible. "

I've opted out of all distribution now.

« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2021, 12:53 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.
Thanks for sharing. No further information about the distributor's share...
Well, no concrete information.  ::)
"We work with around 80 different distributors and the rate varies per partner. We always negotiate for the best deal available with each opportunity. We cannot share details of these individual contracts. We are working to add more partners to ensure we can reach as many potential customers around the world as possible. "

I've opted out of all distribution now.
Yes Ive read it, not much surprising. I stay in with distribution for now and will see in July what the share are.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2021, 13:11 »
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Yes Ive read it, not much surprising. I stay in with distribution for now and will see in July what the share are.
True, you have a point. As I have accepted these sales up to now, I should maybe reconsider.
It's hard to know when we will find out how the new distribution charges will pan out. In July, almost all of our sales will have been made between April and June, when the current distribution breakdown should apply.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2021, 13:12 »
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For anyone who's interested, there has been a reply from Alamy over on their forum:
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/14386-contract-change-2021-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=287609
Doesn't look like there's any chance of a rethink on commission, but some other issues are addressed to some extent.
Thanks for sharing. No further information about the distributor's share...
Well, no concrete information.  ::)
"We work with around 80 different distributors and the rate varies per partner. We always negotiate for the best deal available with each opportunity. We cannot share details of these individual contracts. We are working to add more partners to ensure we can reach as many potential customers around the world as possible. "

I've opted out of all distribution now.
Yes Ive read it, not much surprising. I stay in with distribution for now and will see in July what the share are.

The may sound wrong to some people, but I'd rather have a percentage of something from distributors, than 100% of nothing by opting out. If I thought my distributor sales at Alamy, were competition in any way, same markets or buyers, I'd change my view. These are partner sales from countries that I never have a view or sale from Adobe or SS, as far as I know?

I haven't gotten some of the horrid tiny commissions like others... yet?  ;) I have had some smaller commissions. $10 net isn't too small to make me unhappy.  But I also don't have Microstock on on Alamy, a tiny portion are the same, the majority are either exclusive or different types of images. I don't know why anyone would expect to get a bigger pay for the same Microstock images that they get 15% or 10 cents on other sites?


« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2021, 06:05 »
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Maybe I am wrong, then please correct me!

Did anybody realize this?

Lets say, a new contributor starting to sell on alamy in coming July:

He is lucky, because he got sales in that month for a revenue of 50 Pounds.
How will Alamy calculate his payout? Alamy needs to know, how much he earned in the last 12 month. If above 250, he will get 40% for that sales in July, but has to wait for the decision from alamy another 11 month, right?
And as we know, Alamy often tells us about a sale up to three month later, so to be sure, this contributor has to wait all together 9 month for his payout?

Well, this includes more risk than already suspected for contributors who sometimes reaches a yearly payout of 250 and sometimes not.

Am I missing something?

So, if I am right: In worst case alamy can delay the payout up to 15 month, before alamy has to pay.
Exceptions only if this contributor reaching the 250 minimum before the year passed by.


« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2021, 12:59 »
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Alamy have just screwed themselves, in a few years time they will realise it.

« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2021, 14:16 »
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for 2020 total revenue was 331 usd gross (my part was ofcorse lower)
for this year it's 72 gross


That truly is gross!

« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2021, 14:50 »
+1
And I was thinking about starting to upload to them again. I guess they helped me to decide.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2021, 18:32 »
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If they don't revise some of their new clauses in clear, unambiguous wording, I won't be there either.

Spoiler: they won't.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2021, 18:47 »
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If they don't revise some of their new clauses in clear, unambiguous wording, I won't be there either.

Spoiler: they won't.
Mebbes aye, mebbes naw. We shall see.

They have said they will, both in the forum and in emails received from the MD in response to specific questions (I got one).

Maybe their rewrite will add more levels of ambiguity.  ::)
If they don't, there's a mountain of mistrust they'll never flatten.
Levels of suspicion are already very high.

« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2021, 14:30 »
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When the shareholders in Alamy are in large part the buyers from Alamy it is only ever going to go one way for contributors.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2021, 11:22 »
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Alamy have just screwed themselves, in a few years time they will realise it.

I'll guess you have made a correct prediction. Difficult enough for an agency that sells little and is difficult to work with, plus the convoluted pay system, time, little enforcement of who downloads and uses images (as they have self reporting of use). This will be a dagger in the heart of contributor tolerance.

With that, aside from some occasional Editorial, everything is going through WireStock to them in the future. I can't be bothered for the way Alamy operates, slow pay, no pay and now this?


 

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