Do anyone know what this is about? Anyone's familiar with the DACS payback scheme and can tell me what kind of money are we talking about?

should be at least ��25 

Does it cost me anything?

There is no cost to register with us, but we do retain a share of the royalties we collect to cover our costs. In 2007, those costs were 25%. In 2014, they represented just 18% of royalties collected on your behalf. As a not-for-profit organisation, we are always seeking ways to reduce that percentage.

So, DACS collects the money and cover costs, alamy claims the money and covers costs, then we receive 50% of the rest, right?

After the second Alamy message, I went to the DACS web site to see how to file a claim.  The problem is that you need proof of where and how your image was used.  Alamy only said how many images you could claim for, not which ones or how to find the proof.  The problem is that once DACS takes their 18% and you split the remaining part 50% with Alamy we are getting 41 cents on every dollar.  I'd rather file myself but without knowing which image is eligible and where it appeared that is near impossible - which I'm sure Alamy is well aware of.  If it was a low-value sale it's hardly worth bothering about, but if it was one for $200 then maybe.   I wish Alamy would provide us with the image info so we could do this ourselves, but it could be quite a lot of money for them over all photographers so I'm sure they would rather keep their 50%.  I don't have time to search for other uses of every image I sold on Alamy so will most likely just go through them.

Here's my take- why heck doesn't Alamy do this for us! It's their company and business and take we have to do the leg work? They already take 50% from us and now this crap!

From DACS

Many thanks for getting in touch,

 

Each year we collect royalties to distribute to artists who have work published in UK books with ISBN numbers and UK magazines with ISSN/Barcode numbers and who continue to own the copyright to their works published. We collect royalties for works published up until the end of the previous year so this year works eligible for Payback must have been published before December 31st 2013. You can continue to make a claim each year for your works published in books and magazines as long as you continue to own the copyright to those images.

 

For more information about Payback, how it works and to read some answers to frequently asked questions, you can visit our website here: http://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback/in-detail.

 

With regards to making a claim, you could authorise Alamy to make a claim on your behalf but if you would instead like to make a direct claim via our website, you can reach the Payback log-in page by visiting the DACS website at http://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback and clicking �Apply Now� and create a new account unless you already claim Payback with DACS.

 

Before making a claim you'll just need to know how many books and magazines feature your work and how many images of yours have been included in all of these books and magazines put together. The number of works of yours which have featured in these UK publications can be identified via your Alamy statement.

 

We do also ask for ISBN numbers, titles and publication dates of three books to verify a claim for works published in books and three ISSN/Barcode numbers, titles and publication dates / issue numbers to verify a claim for magazines (fewer if you are making a claim for only one or two books or magazines).

 

However if you don't have access to this information, you can enter "Alamy Claim 2013" into the verification fields of your publication claim and forward a copy of your Alamy sales report to us at [email protected] which we can use to validate your Payback claim."

End of quote 


You just download your sales from Alamy as a CSV file and forward it to DACS once you have registered.

That way you don't have to pay the commission to Alamy 

what i understand from the letter is you can forward your sales report if you want to claim certain images. But you still need a lot of resource to support your claim.

I don't think DACS will look for those usages of your alamy sales report and made a claim for you.

it seems alamy stated of numbers of images you may be able to claim for individual contributors. But it is a little bit confusing that alamy advise us to contact with DACS which we have no information of those alamy sales (who bought it and where it is used).

a little bit confused.

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on August 01, 2014, 15:10

From DACS

Many thanks for getting in touch,

 

Each year we collect royalties to distribute to artists who have work published in UK books with ISBN numbers and UK magazines with ISSN/Barcode numbers and who continue to own the copyright to their works published. We collect royalties for works published up until the end of the previous year so this year works eligible for Payback must have been published before December 31st 2013. You can continue to make a claim each year for your works published in books and magazines as long as you continue to own the copyright to those images.

 

For more information about Payback, how it works and to read some answers to frequently asked questions, you can visit our website here: http://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback/in-detail.

 

With regards to making a claim, you could authorise Alamy to make a claim on your behalf but if you would instead like to make a direct claim via our website, you can reach the Payback log-in page by visiting the DACS website at http://www.dacs.org.uk/for-artists/payback and clicking �Apply Now� and create a new account unless you already claim Payback with DACS.

 

Before making a claim you'll just need to know how many books and magazines feature your work and how many images of yours have been included in all of these books and magazines put together. The number of works of yours which have featured in these UK publications can be identified via your Alamy statement.

 

We do also ask for ISBN numbers, titles and publication dates of three books to verify a claim for works published in books and three ISSN/Barcode numbers, titles and publication dates / issue numbers to verify a claim for magazines (fewer if you are making a claim for only one or two books or magazines).

 

However if you don't have access to this information, you can enter "Alamy Claim 2013" into the verification fields of your publication claim and forward a copy of your Alamy sales report to us at [email protected] which we can use to validate your Payback claim."

End of quote 


You just download your sales from Alamy as a CSV file and forward it to DACS once you have registered.

That way you don't have to pay the commission to Alamy 

Errrr no You don't DACS are quite clear the Alamy Sales report is all you need and you email it to them.

It's not complex at all.

Also DACS do not search for uses of your images.  They simply divide a �4million pound pot of cash between all the claimants.

The money is collected from within the TV and publishing industry.

I really would like to know how can we claim it ourself without information from alamy. Just giving them the sales report will do?

Eventually you come to a page where they want bank information, including IBAN and SWIFT numbers.  The SWIFT number is no problem, but apparently most banks in the US don't use IBAN numbers so I couldn't put anything into that mandatory field.  Eventually I just put "No IBAN number" or something like that and it took it.  The interesting part is that they never asked for an account number so I'm not sure how the money will get to your account once it reaches the bank.

If you didn't receive the e-mail then you probably don't have any UK sales.  If you go to the Build a Downloadable Sales Report button you can generate a report, then look in the Region column to see where they were bought.  Unfortunately that's as much as you can find out as far as I can tell - no way to find out the rest.