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Agency Based Discussion => Alamy.com => Topic started by: melastmohican on June 17, 2009, 16:33
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It took me one year from getting accepted. I stopped uploading for while cause my upsizing efforts were miserable. Now, after camera upgrade, I started uploading again. It's better but still many unexpected rejections. I just stopped worrying about that.
(http://www.alamy.com/thumbs/6/%7BEB2CE66B-4585-4D05-9490-37F61ADED5A5%7D/BANBKA.jpg) (http://www.alamy.com/image-details-popup.asp?Imageid={EB2CE66B-4585-4D05-9490-37F61ADED5A5})
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Congrats on the sale!
Out of curiosity, was it for over $100? Most of mine are for less than $100 before their cut. Which was a bit of a disappointment to me.
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It was actually 688 x 459 pixels for $50. I just wonder why they ask for 48MB files if they sell only post stamp size images :-)
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Tell me...does it feel better than making sales on a Micro since it's more money? Congrats on it! Can't wait for my first one.
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Congrats! I'm still waiting for my first sale, but then I have uplaoded so little there yet.
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Tell me...does it feel better than making sales on a Micro since it's more money? Congrats on it! Can't wait for my first one.
Well... Micros make similar sum in just a day or two ;-) So, I believe it is OK to have Alamy as outlet for LCV or rare images - but microstock is microstock!
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Congrats on your first Alamy sale :-)
It's a good feeling and will encourage you to upload more. My average is just over $300 per sale before their cut. Which is a nice addition to micro income and a good outlet for RM images.
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Out of curiosity, how many files do you have with Alamy? And congratulations with the sale.
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It was actually 688 x 459 pixels for $50. I just wonder why they ask for 48MB files if they sell only post stamp size images :-)
You will eventually see sales for all sizes. My best was for $640 for a full size RF. Not sure why such a high price for RF but I wasn't going to call and argue about it.
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I got 51 files uploaded in one year. 20 from my old camera, then I stopped for half a year. Since I got new camera I got 31 online. I am glad that now I am downsizing for Alamy :-)
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Congrats! I'm still waiting for my first sale, with over 300 images. :-\
Never had any problem with their QC, except for some upload file errors.
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I've got about 200 images, with 2 sales so far totalling $82. At this rate, I should hit the payout in April...2012
No wonder I focus on the micros...
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Congratulations on that first sale. I'm still working up the courage to give Alamy a try. I assume that your stuff there is unique ... nothing that you have already uploaded to micros???
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Congratulations! Wish you many more in future. :)
I'm still waiting for my first sale, but I also need to upload there more actively. Hearing about someone making a sale is always encouraging.
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I've got about 200 images, with 2 sales so far totalling $82. At this rate, I should hit the payout in April...2012
No wonder I focus on the micros...
Just so it doesn't get missed by people who may be reading this thread and don't contribute to Alamy or maybe do read all the fine print. Commissions of $250 before they issue a payment. I'm still waiting to make the quota, but when I do, I'll be happy with the one big check, instead of the dribbles of Micro credits. Each one has it's advantages and detraction's.
$50 payout selling 200 photos at 25c each or $250 minimum, selling four photos at $80 each? ;D
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Just got my first check - took a year. Lately, they have gone back to the 1 rejection and the whole batch is rejected.
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I've got about 200 images, with 2 sales so far totalling $82. At this rate, I should hit the payout in April...2012
No wonder I focus on the micros...
Just so it doesn't get missed by people who may be reading this thread and don't contribute to Alamy or maybe do read all the fine print. Commissions of $250 before they issue a payment. I'm still waiting to make the quota, but when I do, I'll be happy with the one big check, instead of the dribbles of Micro credits. Each one has it's advantages and detraction's.
$50 payout selling 200 photos at 25c each or $250 minimum, selling four photos at $80 each? ;D
Does that math really work for Alamy? How much in microstock dribbles have you made while you've been waiting for your first $250 Alamy payout?
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Does that math really work for Alamy? How much in microstock dribbles have you made while you've been waiting for your first $250 Alamy payout?
It can work, but not for the same style of image. Although Alamy makes some good sales of commercial images, the bread and butter tend to be more editorial in nature, at least for me. You know the ones, "not suitable for stock".
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WOOO! Congrats! I wish you many sales in the future! :)
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I've got about 200 images, with 2 sales so far totalling $82. At this rate, I should hit the payout in April...2012
No wonder I focus on the micros...
Just so it doesn't get missed by people who may be reading this thread and don't contribute to Alamy or maybe do read all the fine print. Commissions of $250 before they issue a payment. I'm still waiting to make the quota, but when I do, I'll be happy with the one big check, instead of the dribbles of Micro credits. Each one has it's advantages and detraction's.
$50 payout selling 200 photos at 25c each or $250 minimum, selling four photos at $80 each? ;D
Does that math really work for Alamy? How much in microstock dribbles have you made while you've been waiting for your first $250 Alamy payout?
Different photos, different market. I have only one photo on Alamy that's also on Micro (different size), under 100 RF images on Alamy, over 1200 images total on Alamy, 100 to 200 average on each Micro site. What I get from DT, FT, SS, IS, BS, and 123 is truly "dribbles". Now and then an EL but mostly under a dollar sales on Micro. 30c subs, IS is the best sale price most of the time. BS has higher numbers, but less sales. Panther has gone from hopeful to no views, no sales. Of course SS makes up for the price, with the most sales. Same stuff we've been reading here for years, it doesn't actually change. There are two sites, IS and SS, all the rest are dribbles in comparison. :D
Yes, SS for 25c a photo until one reaches $500 in sales is real. I don't have $500 in total sales yet. That would be 2000 licenses if I ignore the $28 ELs that come now and then.
Hey aren't you an IS exclusive? You do a great job there, which beats all the rest combined. Last I looked, you had under 300 photos in about a year and a half, and had passed someone with 1000 photos that's been on IS since 2005.
What's that all about? Quality sells. My dribbles come from snapshots and hobby work. My more serious efforts are images up on Alamy. To each their own. I know someone who at last count had everything he could upload on over 28 micro sites. You do fine as an exclusive, he's happy with a shotgun, I'm target shooting.
As the Admiral said... whatever floats your boat. ;)
Good luck with the new quarterback, the CenDiv is going to be interesting this year.
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I've got about 200 images, with 2 sales so far totalling $82. At this rate, I should hit the payout in April...2012
No wonder I focus on the micros...
Just so it doesn't get missed by people who may be reading this thread and don't contribute to Alamy or maybe do read all the fine print. Commissions of $250 before they issue a payment. I'm still waiting to make the quota, but when I do, I'll be happy with the one big check, instead of the dribbles of Micro credits. Each one has it's advantages and detraction's.
$50 payout selling 200 photos at 25c each or $250 minimum, selling four photos at $80 each? ;D
Does that math really work for Alamy? How much in microstock dribbles have you made while you've been waiting for your first $250 Alamy payout?
Different photos, different market. I have only one photo on Alamy that's also on Micro (different size), under 100 RF images on Alamy, over 1200 images total on Alamy, 100 to 200 average on each Micro site. What I get from DT, FT, SS, IS, BS, and 123 is truly "dribbles". Now and then an EL but mostly under a dollar sales on Micro. 30c subs, IS is the best sale price most of the time. BS has higher numbers, but less sales. Panther has gone from hopeful to no views, no sales. Of course SS makes up for the price, with the most sales. Same stuff we've been reading here for years, it doesn't actually change. There are two sites, IS and SS, all the rest are dribbles in comparison. :D
Yes, SS for 25c a photo until one reaches $500 in sales is real. I don't have $500 in total sales yet. That would be 2000 licenses if I ignore the $28 ELs that come now and then.
Hey aren't you an IS exclusive? You do a great job there, which beats all the rest combined. Last I looked, you had under 300 photos in about a year and a half, and had passed someone with 1000 photos that's been on IS since 2005.
What's that all about? Quality sells. My dribbles come from snapshots and hobby work. My more serious efforts are images up on Alamy. To each their own. I know someone who at last count had everything he could upload on over 28 micro sites. You do fine as an exclusive, he's happy with a shotgun, I'm target shooting.
As the Admiral said... whatever floats your boat. ;)
Good luck with the new quarterback, the CenDiv is going to be interesting this year.
Maybe you can get Favre back. ;)
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Maybe you can get Favre back. ;)
Don't want him, he retired two or three times already. ;D Damaged goods. I'd only look forward to him going to the Viqueens so we can kick their butts with him as QB. At least with the Bears there's a long historic rivalry and some respect from both sides.
I always wanted to go shoot a pro game, just for the experience. Never begged for credentials or tried to pull favors. I have shot college and enjoyed it very much.
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FINALLY! Been there for a year, almost gave up uploading because of no sales but maybe I'll focus a little more effort there after a $225.00 sale from a picture of Wild Lettuce flowers. ;D Didn't even notice I had a sale on July 1st until today! Only have 114 images online. Would love to know the name of the magazine. Probably gardening or something like that.
Here's the info from the sale
Country: United States
Usage: Editorial
Media: Consumer Magazine
Industry: Retail books/magazines/newspapers
Sub-Industry: Miscellaneous
Print run: up to 2 million
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 24 August 2009
End: 31 August 2009
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Congrats!
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I'm lucky. With exactly 100 images I had 2 sales. First of something like 24$ after cut and second lately at 80$. It have been sold for like 170$. The last one was one of my traffic light image
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Oops. This price was before the Alamy commission so I get $135. Better than a kick in the shin. ;)
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Congrats! :)
Is this RF or RM license?
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RM license and the photo is exclusive to Alamy.
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Oops. This price was before the Alamy commission so I get $135. Better than a kick in the shin. ;)
lol, for $135, I 'd gladly offer my shin to be kicked , as a bonus.
Congrats !
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Today i´ve checked my alamy account, because since the beginning nothing happened. I´ve sold this image as RF
(http://B1NP8D.jpg) for 247,70 $ (so my Balance is 99,08$).
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Pretty lucky sale for such a small portfolio - congrats.
It must be a sale via a distributor because of the low 40% commission ;)
Your example also clearly shows that it is a wise idea to keep Microstock- and Alamy-Portfolios separate. There are 433 results at iStock for Rowanberries most of them are much more colorful and vivid than your picture but I'm pretty sure the buyer looked for a more natural rendition instead of artificial colours so he bought yours for a very nice price. :D
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There are 433 results at iStock for Rowanberries most of them are much more colorful and vivid than your picture but I'm pretty sure the buyer looked for a more natural rendition instead of artificial colours so he bought yours for a very nice price. :D
grp_photo you are likely to be spot on there,
Many newpapers and publications will not use any image that has been photoshopped in any way for editorial use, they would have an account with Alamy and may not even think to look at Istock as they are associated with more commercial post processed images and not editorial images.
As you say keeping your portfolio's seperate is a good idea as what sells on one may not on the other, just based on your workflow and the way you have prepared an image.
For Alamy I see it as two collections and only do slight tweeks if needed for editorial images as that is all that is required, if my image is aimed at the Alamy commercial market then a photoshopped image can sell, it is just a matter of deciding which market the image is aimed at.
David ;)
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Another sale :) which makes the second sale in 2 months about 1 year after starting to upload to Alamy.
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$ 48.43 – I get $29.06 for a pic of herbal medicine
Now I'm more motivated to shoot for Alamy but first I'm going through all my keywords to make sure they are set up correctly, making sure there are not too many and they are put in the right place.
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My first - I'm so happy! ;D ;D ;D
$103.45
Country: Worldwide
Usage: Editorial
Media: Book - Retail
Industry: Retail books/magazines/newspapers
Sub-Industry: Miscellaneous
Print run: up to 100,000
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1 page
Start: Wednesday, April 01, 2009
End: Sunday, April 01, 2012
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My first - I'm so happy! ;D ;D ;D
$103.45
Country: Worldwide
Usage: Editorial
Media: Book - Retail
Industry: Retail books/magazines/newspapers
Sub-Industry: Miscellaneous
Print run: up to 100,000
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1 page
Start: Wednesday, April 01, 2009
End: Sunday, April 01, 2012
Madelaide, where do you find so much details of the sale????
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On your "Images sold" page they show up all together...
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Congratulations Adelaide! Wish you many more in future! :)
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WOOOOOOO! Great! :-D Congrats Adelaide! Wish you many many more!
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Thank you guys. Having lost a negotiation for a magazine cover a month ago, this comes at a very good moment. Good luck for us all at Alamy.
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I get this in images sold, but not what madelaide show...
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I get this in images sold, but not what madelaide show...
Only RM (Licensed) sales show the detail of where and how the image is to be used. RF sales are not tracked.
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Ok :D
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Question about Alamy is TRAFFIC. Are they getting any traffic, which leads to sales?
My quick look at their actual sales lead me to think differently.
I did a quick comparison of the top downloaded images on iStock and Alamy in the last month, and iStock's top 15 images for the month have been downloaded more than 6700 times. In comparison, you can sort by sales on Alamy and their top 20 images have sold 47.
Its great to have a collection of images available for higher prices, but I just don't think they're getting the traffic and sales that we see on MicroStock sites. You can have a great site, with a huge inventory 16M + but if there are no shoppers ...
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In comparison, you can sort by sales on Alamy and their top 20 images have sold 47.
Dude, what have you been smoking??
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In comparison, you can sort by sales on Alamy and their top 20 images have sold 47.
Dude, what have you been smoking??
Nothing yet, too early in the morning.
Check Alamy - you can look for yourself. Goto My Alamy, AlamyMeasures 2.1 (beta) - All of Alamy. Then click on SALES to sort by number of SALES - and see for yourself.
Then smoke one for me!
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In comparison, you can sort by sales on Alamy and their top 20 images have sold 47.
Dude, what have you been smoking??
Nothing yet, too early in the morning.
Check Alamy - you can look for yourself. Goto My Alamy, AlamyMeasures 2.1 (beta) - All of Alamy. Then click on SALES to sort by number of SALES - and see for yourself.
Then smoke one for me!
What are “Sales”?
The number of sales we can reliably attribute to a search term for the time period specified. Sales data is not comprehensive because the nature of customer activity means that we cannot link all sales to search terms.
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I wonder how many sales they make on Alamy - without doing a search?
Either way, it appears to me that Alamy sales are FAR LOWER than the MicroStock sites we're all familiar with. Sure, I'll have a presence and a collection on Alamy, but I'm having much more success on the other sites - even though they sell for much less per download.
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I wonder how many sales they make on Alamy - without doing a search?
Either way, it appears to me that Alamy sales are FAR LOWER than the MicroStock sites we're all familiar with. Sure, I'll have a presence and a collection on Alamy, but I'm having much more success on the other sites - even though they sell for much less per download.
Typical Pavlovian microstocker analysis. Success = no. of downloads. This is why 99% of you are failures in actually making a profit. You have absolutely no idea of how to analyse a business situation and make the best choices.
Let's look how a successful stock photographer might look at things:
Total downloads on Istock = 6,700
Average paid out to Istock contributors per download = $0.30
Total paid out to Istock contributors = $2,010
Partial number of licenses sold on Alamy = 47
Average paid out to Alamy contributors per license = $70
Total paid out to Alamy contributors = $3,290
Ratio of contributors at Alamy vs. IStock = 1 (Alamy) : 2 (IStock)
So not only does Alamy pay 64% more to contributors than IStock, Alamy also has at least half as many contributors competing for those dollars.
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Good point.
I wonder about melastmohican, who started this discussion with their first Alamy sale.
melastmohican - how do your successes on Microstock compare to your Alamy success? In the same timeframe where you made your first sale on Alamy, how many (if any) sales were made on other Micro sites? How do your sales dollars compare?
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I wonder how many sales they make on Alamy - without doing a search?
Either way, it appears to me that Alamy sales are FAR LOWER than the MicroStock sites we're all familiar with. Sure, I'll have a presence and a collection on Alamy, but I'm having much more success on the other sites - even though they sell for much less per download.
Typical Pavlovian microstocker analysis. Success = no. of downloads. This is why 99% of you are failures in actually making a profit. You have absolutely no idea of how to analyse a business situation and make the best choices.
Let's look how a successful stock photographer might look at things:
Total downloads on Istock = 6,700
Average paid out to Istock contributors per download = $0.30
Total paid out to Istock contributors = $2,010
Partial number of licenses sold on Alamy = 47
Average paid out to Alamy contributors per license = $70
Total paid out to Alamy contributors = $3,290
Ratio of contributors at Alamy vs. IStock = 1 (Alamy) : 2 (IStock)
So not only does Alamy pay 64% more to contributors than IStock, Alamy also has at least half as many contributors competing for those dollars.
Where did you get the idea that the average commission per licence at Istock is 30c?
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Typical Pavlovian microstocker analysis. Success = no. of downloads. This is why 99% of you are failures in actually making a profit. You have absolutely no idea of how to analyse a business situation and make the best choices.
Let's look how a successful stock photographer might look at things:
Total downloads on Istock = 6,700
Average paid out to Istock contributors per download = $0.30
Total paid out to Istock contributors = $2,010
Partial number of licenses sold on Alamy = 47
Average paid out to Alamy contributors per license = $70
Total paid out to Alamy contributors = $3,290
Ratio of contributors at Alamy vs. IStock = 1 (Alamy) : 2 (IStock)
So not only does Alamy pay 64% more to contributors than IStock, Alamy also has at least half as many contributors competing for those dollars.
Wow Dingo __ you really don't have a clue about the numbers do you? You have some homework to do my friend. Read and enjoy;
http://www.alamy.com/contributors/statements/default.asp (http://www.alamy.com/contributors/statements/default.asp)
As can be seen Alamy's sales figures are steadily heading southwards but in the last year they generated about $27M (from 14M images) of which roughly $15M was paid out in commissions.
In the same year IS generated something like $150m of sales (from about 5M images) and paid out roughly $50m in commissions.
That works out at about $1 per image/year paid out by Alamy compared to about $10 per image/year paid out by Istock.
Istock sales are still growing strongly and are projected to be $250M+ by 2011 if I remember the statement correctly. If Alamy's graph continues in the same direction they'll probably be paying little more than 50c per image/year in about 12 months.
The writing is on the wall for you my little doggy friend. It will soon be 'Game over' for all but the very best and most unique macro contributors.
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Ive tried uploading to alamy. I need to resize my pics. How do i do that?
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Ive tried uploading to alamy. I need to resize my pics. How do i do that?
There is a thread about it in the Alamy area of MSG, Dan, take a look there.
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Either way, it appears to me that Alamy sales are FAR LOWER than the MicroStock sites we're all familiar with. Sure, I'll have a presence and a collection on Alamy, but I'm having much more success on the other sites - even though they sell for much less per download.
The nature of microstock is volume sales, with many buyers who would never afford macrostock prices (some could, but won't with a cheaper choice). Macrostock doesn't mean you will make more money, but more money per sale.
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I wonder how many sales they make on Alamy - without doing a search?
Either way, it appears to me that Alamy sales are FAR LOWER than the MicroStock sites we're all familiar with. Sure, I'll have a presence and a collection on Alamy, but I'm having much more success on the other sites - even though they sell for much less per download.
Typical Pavlovian microstocker analysis. Success = no. of downloads. This is why 99% of you are failures in actually making a profit. You have absolutely no idea of how to analyse a business situation and make the best choices.
Let's look how a successful stock photographer might look at things:
Total downloads on Istock = 6,700
Average paid out to Istock contributors per download = $0.30
Total paid out to Istock contributors = $2,010
Partial number of licenses sold on Alamy = 47
Average paid out to Alamy contributors per license = $70
Total paid out to Alamy contributors = $3,290
Ratio of contributors at Alamy vs. IStock = 1 (Alamy) : 2 (IStock)
So not only does Alamy pay 64% more to contributors than IStock, Alamy also has at least half as many contributors competing for those dollars.
Where did you get the idea that the average commission per licence at Istock is 30c?
Exactly, none of us make more than 10 cents a download do we ;)
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In the same timeframe where you made your first sale on Alamy, how many (if any) sales were made on other Micro sites?
Why are you asking him to compare sales he made in ONE non-micro site with the sales he made on ALL micro sites?
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That works out at about $1 per image/year paid out by Alamy compared to about $10 per image/year paid out by Istock.
The writing is on the wall for you my little doggy friend. It will soon be 'Game over' for all but the very best and most unique macro contributors.
Dude, discussing financial numbers and ratios with you microstockers is like discussing trigonometry with a 5 year-old. It's useless. You just don't get it. It's why you bozos are in microstock in the first place. It's why you think $50 for a custom cover license is great money, why $10K for a European stock "business trip" (wink wink) is a great investment, why projecting 9% month-to-month growth in microstock earnings is realistic and, in your case, why you think nothing of calculating and then comparing per image revenue from an UNEDITED portal like Alamy with an EDITED library like Istock.
You guys are losing money with every sale and you don't even realize it. Like Dingo said, it's only a question of time before you run out of cash.
To paraphrase Norm Peterson (Cheers!), it's a dog eat dog world out there and you microstockers are wearing milkbone underwear.
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It is absurd to compare micros with Alamy, two totally different markets, different business models and different customer targets. As I've said before, micros have their place in today's market, but to pretend that the whole market is (or has to be) micros is like covering your eyes and refusing to see that there is more in the world than micros. If you go to Alamy forums you will find people that sell one or more images per day, do the math. As always, you have to shoot what is in demand and what is underrepresented in the library. A micro-like portfolio won't take you anywhere at Alamy.
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Ive tried uploading to alamy. I need to resize my pics. How do i do that?
If you have to ask this, have you considered that perhaps you should just enjoy photography as a hobby and not even bother getting involved with stock?
If you don't know how to upsize, then your photography skills are at a level where you simply cannot be efficient or successful regardless of micro or macro.
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People I know always assume when they find an in-action of mine that I made a lot of money for the usage. They are shocked to discover my average per sale is under a dollar. Of course they then say that I should be selling somewhere that I can make more per sale for my images.
I reply that if my image had not been available on microstock then I wouldn't have had the sale at all. Because microstock is where that particular buyer was looking. If my images aren't there, they will simply buy someone else's.
I have over 4k images on Alamy, and last month Alamy was 5% of my earnings. This puts them in sixth place behind IS, SS, FT, DT, and StockXpert. It is laughable to suggest giving up 95% of my income just to have a higher per sale average! :o
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... why you think nothing of calculating and then comparing per image revenue from an UNEDITED portal like Alamy with an EDITED library like Istock.
By 'unedited' (or more probably accurately 'self-edited') it generally comes to pass that 90% of the library is either multiple similars and/or rubbish. Why would a customer want to plough through 90% crap and then have to pay a very hefty premium for the priviledge of doing so? Most of the upmarket agencies pride themselves on how tightly edited their collections are __ that's what their customers are supposed to be paying for. IMHO Alamy's business model is tragically flawed so many respects __ losing customers and revenue every quarter despite chasing image prices ever lower. I not entirely sure that they could compete even if they dropped their prices to microstock levels.
I know a couple of Alamy devotees who basically ended up there because they couldn't actually hack it in microstock; the technical standards were too high if they couldn't 'self-edit' and their stuff didn't sell much if it did actually get accepted. Judging by a few searches it would seem that plenty of Alamy photographers can't even achieve a basic isolation-on-white, they think it means having a grubby sheet as a background. That's self-editing for you __ nobody told them that their images are crap.
HERE Doggy, Doggy, Doggy! Come to microstock __ there's good boy!
You're on a rapidly sinking ship my friend so you'd better start practicing your doggy-paddle (geddit) if you want to survive. The future is stock __ not micro, not macro, just stock.
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I have over 4k images on Alamy, and last month Alamy was 5% of my earnings. This puts them in sixth place behind IS, SS, FT, DT, and StockXpert. It is laughable to suggest giving up 95% of my income just to have a higher per sale average! :o
This may seem like a revolutionary idea, but have you ever considered, like, y'know, maybe trying, ohh I dunno, a non-microstock place OTHER than Alamy?
I know that them being called "Alamy" and starting with the letter "A" puts them automatically at the top of microstocker lists, but I've heard that -- and this is between just Dingo and you and you must promise not to tell OK? -- there are OTHER non-microstock avenues out there!
I know, I know, I was flabbergasted by this news too, but there you go!
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I know a couple of Alamy devotees who basically ended up there because they couldn't actually hack it in microstock; the technical standards were too high if they couldn't 'self-edit' and their stuff didn't sell much if it did actually get accepted. Judging by a few searches it would seem that plenty of Alamy photographers can't even achieve a basic isolation-on-white, they think it means having a grubby sheet as a background. That's self-editing for you __ nobody told them that their images are crap.
HERE Doggy, Doggy, Doggy! Come to microstock __ there's good boy!
You're on a rapidly sinking ship my friend so you'd better start practicing your doggy-paddle (geddit) if you want to survive. The future is stock __ not micro, not macro, just stock.
Dude, listen, I'm here for you anytime you need, OK? If it makes you feel better to go on some sort of psychotic rant against Alamy just to get it out of your system, I'm fine with that.
But Einstein, are you seriously implying that if Alamy ever fails (and Dingo couldn't care less if they did), that the only other option is microstock?
You haven't been bit by a rabbid dog recently, have you?
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Dude, listen, I'm here for you anytime you need, OK? If it makes you feel better to go on some sort of psychotic rant against Alamy just to get it out of your system, I'm fine with that.
But Einstein, are you seriously implying that if Alamy ever fails (and Dingo couldn't care less if they did), that the only other option is microstock?
Just joshing with you old buddy! Unfortunately the malaise that will eventually do for Alamy will also do for most of the others too. Even with your brain befuddled through lack of food though you must appreciate this surely? Funny how you were singing Alamy's praises just a few posts ago __ mind you, loss of short-term memory is always one of the first signs of malnutrition. Dingo's traditionally feed on scraps but in this climate it must be tough for you.
When you need a bit of help to pass the technical standards for microstock (as you will) then you just have to ask. How are you getting on with the doggy-paddle practise?
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I know a couple of Alamy devotees who basically ended up there because they couldn't actually hack it in microstock; the technical standards were too high if they couldn't 'self-edit' and their stuff didn't sell much if it did actually get accepted. Judging by a few searches it would seem that plenty of Alamy photographers can't even achieve a basic isolation-on-white, they think it means having a grubby sheet as a background. That's self-editing for you __ nobody told them that their images are crap.
HERE Doggy, Doggy, Doggy! Come to microstock __ there's good boy!
You're on a rapidly sinking ship my friend so you'd better start practicing your doggy-paddle (geddit) if you want to survive. The future is stock __ not micro, not macro, just stock.
Dude, listen, I'm here for you anytime you need, OK? If it makes you feel better to go on some sort of psychotic rant against Alamy just to get it out of your system, I'm fine with that.
But Einstein, are you seriously implying that if Alamy ever fails (and Dingo couldn't care less if they did), that the only other option is microstock?
You haven't been bit by a rabbid dog recently, have you?
Dingo, how about introducing yourself?
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Funny how you were singing Alamy's praises just a few posts ago __ mind you, loss of short-term memory is always one of the first signs of malnutrition. Dingo's traditionally feed on scraps but in this climate it must be tough for you.
I know this may appear as an alien concept around die-hard microstockers like you, but correcting blatant misinformation given by others by presenting truth and facts are not necessarily an indication that someone is "singing the praises".
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Dingo, how about introducing yourself?
Sir Denis! I missed you! Have you quit your security guard job yet and embarked on a high-flying and challenging microstock career shooting various objects on perfectly white backgrounds?
Since you want to know more about Dingo... Dingo likes poetry and long walks on the beach and I absolutely love it when someone tosses me a frisbee in the water!
My strong traits are being able to sniff lies and inaccuracies from a mile away and my weakness is having the urge to pee on someone's leg from time to time.
I have a full-time job being man's best friend sniffing suitcases and crotches at the airport.
I'm also a part-time microstock tormentor. It started as a hobby, but I'm hoping to go pro sometime in the next 30 years. I have a lot of free time on account of my bitch, Mrs. Dingo, being in heat only once a year, and eHarmony.com not quite working for me if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I'm losing money on this tormenting thing for now, but I'm hoping to make it up in volume. I'm already up to 56 posts in just one month. At this rate of month-to-month growth, in three short years I'll have close to, ohh I dunno, maybe 3 million posts give or take a million, full of microstock facts and wisdom exquisitely crafted and easily searchable to remind microstockers of their imbecility.
I'm currently working on an exciting web project called iSyndicator where I write my tormenting posts just once, then syndicate them to various microstock forums. It's the 21st-Century way of flingin' the crap. It's like taking crap and spreading it as far and wide as possible hoping that it will hit someone somewhere. The great thing is that it allows me to keep stats on how many microstockers are being tormented by my posts which gives me great satisfaction. I already have a wall-full of tearsheets made up of tormented microstocker replies. It's a great marketing tool for a tormenting newbie like me who wants to become established.
So as you can see we lead, ironically, symbiotic lives.
Microstockers enjoy being failures, and I enjoy reminding them!
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Funny guy ;D ;D ;D ;D
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For the sake of improving the air quality around here, use of the "Ignore" button is highly recommended in cases like this one.
Thanks, Leaf, for adding that nice little touch to the site. Much appreciated.
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Even though every once in a while Dingo emits absolute rubbish, many times he's also right and his (IT'S ??) style is one of the few things for which I still come around here. ;D
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Question about Alamy is TRAFFIC. Are they getting any traffic, which leads to sales?
My quick look at their actual sales lead me to think differently.
I did a quick comparison of the top downloaded images on iStock and Alamy in the last month, and iStock's top 15 images for the month have been downloaded more than 6700 times. In comparison, you can sort by sales on Alamy and their top 20 images have sold 47.
Its great to have a collection of images available for higher prices, but I just don't think they're getting the traffic and sales that we see on MicroStock sites. You can have a great site, with a huge inventory 16M + but if there are no shoppers ...
I'm sure I read somewhere a while back alamy measures and alamy stats for 'all of alamy' (not for individuals) is only subset or reduced representation of all user activity (basically it doesn't mean jack ;))
to me the real value is images such as ARRPBN which is a picture of thunderbolts grave (and yep most people now say who?) captain thunderbolt was an Australian Bushranger, relatively well known in Northern NSW, but not really elsewhere. The story of thunderbolt (and grave etc) is the local tourist thing for the town of Uralla which has a population of a few thousand people. Demand for image of the town / grave / statue / cave hidout etc is pretty low as you could image. Put on the micros I'd get 'lack of commercial potential' or if accepted maybe a sale or two a year. On alamy it has had 2 sales with my cut just over $250 overall. Nothing amazing but better than i could do on micro. i'm not bagging micro as I do well there but imo micro is about whole portfolio of high demand imagery, alamy and macro is about specialist and low demand stuff.
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This may seem like a revolutionary idea, but have you ever considered, like, y'know, maybe trying, ohh I dunno, a non-microstock place OTHER than Alamy?
Absolutely. I used to be on Acclaim where I didn't get a single sale in 6 months. Also, I originally tried and was rejected by Corbis and Getty. I might be able to get in now, five years later, but I am so busy producing microstock images that I don't have time or inclination to bother producing a separate portfolio for trad sites.
Besides, watching the way the stock industry is trending it seems like more of the trad photographers are moving into the microstock arena than the other way around. And more of the customers are going that way too.
I have no real desire to try and hop on the back of the traditional stock dinosaur when I am content with my sales and income from the micros.
But hey, feel free to continue flinging the insults. I've had my rabies shot :)
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I was rejected by a traditional site years ago and never bothered applying again. I am with alamy now, thanks to the money I earned from microstock paying for a camera that is good enough to produce the large size images they require. It is taking a long time to build a separate RM portfolio but I do think it is worth it. I think there will always be buyers that want to pay more than microstock prices, if the traditional sites were going to completely fail, wouldn't it of happened by now?
Getty let istock exclusives contribute to one of their collections, I had hoped that would be open to all contributors but it doesn't look like that will happen. Perhaps Corbis will do it? I will get around to applying to them as I am sure it is worth it.
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Why do people keep comparing Alamy which is over 80% Editorial and over 80% Rights Managed, with a microsite that only has Royalty Free and No Editorial Images, as already said they supply to different markets and do not compete in any big way with each other.
So do your research and upload different images to both models and you then have different RF and RM portfolios on different websites, instead of the same portfolio competing against your own images at different price points on only microstock websites.
David ::)
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Why do people keep comparing Alamy which is over 80% Editorial and over 80% Rights Managed, with a microsite that only has Royalty Free and No Editorial Images, as already said they supply to different markets and do not compete in any big way with each other.
Uhm... Probably because this is a thread about Alamy sales and it is on a microstock forum. Sort of invites the comparison, doesn't it ???
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Just got my first sale on Alamy. I have 20-something images there for a bit over a year now so I wasn't very active in uploading. I know I'm still far from reaching payout :) but it felt good anyway :)
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Congrats Goldenangel! I wish you many more! :)
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Congratulations!
I still have squat, but have only been there a month.
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I sold a picture of a beach fir $171. I get 60%. Nice. ;D
I have not been uploading to Alamy as I have been really busy on another venture. Maybe I should start uploading again.
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Congratulations Goldenangel! Feels good when you make a large sale there :)
I just had my first $5.00 sale at Alamy, of which I get $2. It was through one of their distribution partnerships. I didn't even know you COULD get such small sales on Alamy. Feels like micro to me...
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Congratulations Goldenangel! Feels good when you make a large sale there :)
I just had my first $5.00 sale at Alamy, of which I get $2. It was through one of their distribution partnerships. I didn't even know you COULD get such small sales on Alamy. Feels like micro to me...
I have good news and bad news about how low a sale can be. I had my first sale a few months ago for "Novel Use" giving me a super total of 50 cent! The good news is last week I had my second sale for $491 with my take at $196.
yes, I am happy.
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Congratulations Goldenangel! Feels good when you make a large sale there :)
I just had my first $5.00 sale at Alamy, of which I get $2. It was through one of their distribution partnerships. I didn't even know you COULD get such small sales on Alamy. Feels like micro to me...
I have good news and bad news about how low a sale can be. I had my first sale a few months ago for "Novel Use" giving me a super total of 50 cent! The good news is last week I had my second sale for $491 with my take at $196.
yes, I am happy.
Congrats on that second sale! ;D
You can opt out of "Novel Use" sales -- I did.
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For me Alamy has been steadily increasing with aound $400 on average per month as my cut. Put's it on a par with SS. Worth the effort
Oldhand
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For me Alamy has been steadily increasing with aound $400 on average per month as my cut. Put's it on a par with SS. Worth the effort
Oldhand
How long have you been on Alamy?
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it takes a long time to make a RM sale on alamy, i took months just to get the photos uploaded from CD years ago...
i don't think microstocker can easily succeed on alamy, as alamy is too much targeted about editorial, i think getty RF is a much better option.
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Congrats, GA! It feels good to receive a decent payment for a photo, isn't it?
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Congratulations Goldenangel! Feels good when you make a large sale there :)
I just had my first $5.00 sale at Alamy, of which I get $2. It was through one of their distribution partnerships. I didn't even know you COULD get such small sales on Alamy. Feels like micro to me...
I have good news and bad news about how low a sale can be. I had my first sale a few months ago for "Novel Use" giving me a super total of 50 cent! The good news is last week I had my second sale for $491 with my take at $196.
yes, I am happy.
Question for both of you:
Is your portfolio the same on both Alamy and Microstock, or do you have different images on each?
Kone
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Congratulations Goldenangel! Feels good when you make a large sale there :)
I just had my first $5.00 sale at Alamy, of which I get $2. It was through one of their distribution partnerships. I didn't even know you COULD get such small sales on Alamy. Feels like micro to me...
I have good news and bad news about how low a sale can be. I had my first sale a few months ago for "Novel Use" giving me a super total of 50 cent! The good news is last week I had my second sale for $491 with my take at $196.
yes, I am happy.
Question for both of you:
Is your portfolio the same on both Alamy and Microstock, or do you have different images on each?
Kone
KB . . . Thanks for the info. I new "Novel Use" would go at a reduced price but was suprised at the 50 cent return. I will use your suggestion if there arn't better results.
KONE . . . my Alamy port. is around 70% unique.
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Thank you all :) Yes, Adelaide, it really does feel good to get such a decent payment. This motivates me to upload more on Alamy. About those low sales, it must feel like micro, when you get such a small payment. Somehow, I think we are simply expecting more from Alamy...
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Just got my first sale on Alamy. I have 20-something images there for a bit over a year now so I wasn't very active in uploading. I know I'm still far from reaching payout :) but it felt good anyway :)
Good for you. :-)
After a year, over 550 images and four small-value sales, I'm disappointed. Though because of the incredibly bad weather we had last year, my shooting plans were frequently truncated: I'd hoped to have about 2000 online by now.
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For me Alamy has been steadily increasing with aound $400 on average per month as my cut. Put's it on a par with SS. Worth the effort
Oldhand
How long have you been on Alamy?
Hi there - I have been there for four years, but struggled a lot with Quality control at first due to older equipment. I sorted the problems out, and have been actively uploading for the last year with around 2000 pics on a RM portfolio (very diverse, in my opinion mediocre material).
Very sporadic sales at first, every couple of months for circa $200, however it is now consisent. Sold four March for $200, sold three in Feb for $1000. It averages around $400 net for me every month.
Rgds
Oldhand
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For me Alamy has been steadily increasing with aound $400 on average per month as my cut. Put's it on a par with SS. Worth the effort
Oldhand
How long have you been on Alamy?
Hi there - I have been there for four years, but struggled a lot with Quality control at first due to older equipment. I sorted the problems out, and have been actively uploading for the last year with around 2000 pics on a RM portfolio (very diverse, in my opinion mediocre material).
Very sporadic sales at first, every couple of months for circa $200, however it is now consisent. Sold four March for $200, sold three in Feb for $1000. It averages around $400 net for me every month.
Rgds
Oldhand
Thanks, Oldhand. I figured you're there since several years. I only sold RF so far, but I'm looking to increase my RM part of my portfolio there.
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Congratulations.
Alamy sales may be far and few, but it's nice to get a download. Another thing I also noticed, the views are far and few too.
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As I read interesting comments on this thread, I can add my experience with Alamy: I have 7 sales from 2008 when I start with Alamy, 2 RM and 4 RF and 1 NovelUse, so the gross is 630$.
I have now 1000 images, half RF, with not too many problems for quality check.
I think Alamy is more RM oriented but for my experience there are more traffic in RF than RM, sales and zooms said it, so I don't know how to best assets my strategy. Ah...the sales are all without zooms.....can you imagine a buyer who buy without zooming the image? Having zooms increase your rank, my RM portfolio is good quality but with 0 or little zooms, so I can't imagine how can i sell my pictures not showing them....
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I think Alamy is more RM oriented but for my experience there are more traffic in RF than RM, sales and zooms said it, so I don't know how to best assets my strategy. Ah...the sales are all without zooms.....can you imagine a buyer who buy without zooming the image? Having zooms increase your rank, my RM portfolio is good quality but with 0 or little zooms, so I can't imagine how can i sell my pictures not showing them....
Remember that the views and zooms recorded are only from a select number of Alamy's top buyers. A smaller buyer does not show up for views or zooms. Only one of my 'sold' images has ever been zoomed; conversely only one photo I've had zoomed has sold, and maybe not to the person who zoomed.
Nowadays with the 'hover-over' enlargement, zooming isn't as common.
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The same happened to me, the image I sold there didn't get any zooms and in fact it did not appear in that list of searches. I guess it was purchased through a 3rd party or through Alamy's inside service.
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The same happened to me, the image I sold there didn't get any zooms and in fact it did not appear in that list of searches. I guess it was purchased through a 3rd party or through Alamy's inside service.
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Sales without zooms. Last sale was no zooms, no searches, no nothing! Well, it was a sale, so the rest is just extra information.
I also don't worry about Alamy rank and all that. People are looking for photos and if I have something that they want, that isn't the same as 3,000 other similar photos, it will sell. Some folks get all obsessed about no zoom or no view registered and worry about their rank. Good somewhat unique photos sell! :)
Lets say that half my views and zooms are not recorded. Well then about half of everyone else's views and zooms aren't being registered either, so we are all on the same system. Level playing field, I'm not worried that someone is getting ahead of me because of some silly measures system that doesn't work all the time.
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The same happened to me, the image I sold there didn't get any zooms and in fact it did not appear in that list of searches. I guess it was purchased through a 3rd party or through Alamy's inside service.
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I also don't worry about Alamy rank and all that. People are looking for photos and if I have something that they want, that isn't the same as 3,000 other similar photos, it will sell. Some folks get all obsessed about no zoom or no view registered and worry about their rank. Good somewhat unique photos sell! :)
Lets say that half my views and zooms are not recorded. Well then about half of everyone else's views and zooms aren't being registered either, so we are all on the same system. Level playing field, I'm not worried that someone is getting ahead of me because of some silly measures system that doesn't work all the time.
My Click through rate (CTR) is consistently higher than the Alamy average, and has been since I put a lot of keywording work in 6 months ago. Since then the sales have increased noticeably (along with zooms etc). I take your point, if a pic in unique then it will appear at the top of the page, but none of mine are particularly. The net result of an increased CTR has been my images appear on the first pages of relevant searches, an IMHO has led to increased sales.
I created a Pseudonym for all new pics and edited the keywords to a minimum using their search terms etc. Next step was to go through the older pics and re-keyword them. For me it was a useful exercise.
Regarding Zooms, a lot of searching is done in house. Alamy will contact say a newspaper every week and ask what subjects they are looking for, say for a sunday travel supplement. Alamy resarchers will then sort a lightbox of relevant pics, which will not show as having zooms. That's just the tip of the iceberg, as they are proactive in choosing the pics for clients. (keep's them happy!)
My advice for anyone selling pics there would be to keep keywords brief and relevant. Having a CTR higher than average, even slightly, gives you a greater chance of selling. Any advantage has to be good, and who know's, you might get some large price sales. For the record every one of my sales has had zoom's.
Oldhand
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My problem with CTR is that keywords are found in the wrong place. One problem is my name, "Adelaide", I get hits for any search related to the city in Australia. Someone looking for "adelaide cityscape" may see a photo of London. ::) Also there were the expressions in quotation marks, searches are reading individual words in an expression. Like someone searching for "American Airlines" and finding an image that has "Varig Airlines" and "Latin American" in the keywords. :(
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My problem with CTR is that keywords are found in the wrong place. One problem is my name, "Adelaide", I get hits for any search related to the city in Australia. Someone looking for "adelaide cityscape" may see a photo of London. ::) Also there were the expressions in quotation marks, searches are reading individual words in an expression. Like someone searching for "American Airlines" and finding an image that has "Varig Airlines" and "Latin American" in the keywords. :(
I just hate the Alamy keywording and search system. I can see how bad it must be with your name. I've been caught out with my name being part of a search (e.g. Queen Elizabeth, as my pseudonym is my real name, and it was a photo of a statue of Queen Victoria. Another one was on a search for someone called Elizabeth House, and I had a house in a photo. They say we have to check our keywording carefully; I check all of mine that come up in either of the two instances you relate and can't see how I can improve them. The system has to change, but I'm guessing with the number of images they have, it's not going to change.
Buyers must hate it, if they do their own searching, but I guess it keeps the researchers in a job.
It just seems so primitive not to be able to signify and separate keyword expressions as you exemplify above.
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My problem with CTR is that keywords are found in the wrong place. One problem is my name, "Adelaide", I get hits for any search related to the city in Australia. Someone looking for "adelaide cityscape" may see a photo of London. ::) Also there were the expressions in quotation marks, searches are reading individual words in an expression. Like someone searching for "American Airlines" and finding an image that has "Varig Airlines" and "Latin American" in the keywords. :(
I take the point!
adelaide cityscape shows 2 pics of London on the first page of otherwise correct matches
"adelaide cityscape" - no matches
adelaide city - first page of correct matches
"adelaide city" correct matches
Changing your name to a pseudonymn dones not help as it still seaches on the photographers credit line.
I would have put essential keywords as "adelaide city" "adelaide cityscape"
It's never going to be an exact science, the only way I have found to increase CTR is to be brief. "golden gate bridge" etc. The search engine gives highest priority to the essential keywords, so it they are good your CTR should be above average anyway. Not sure how to deal with the photographer name problem, maybe Alamy could be more help.
Rgds
Oldhand
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I would have put essential keywords as "adelaide city" "adelaide cityscape"
Oldhand
If you mean when keywording, it makes no difference, you can do "adelaide city", "Adelaide cityscape", "Adelaide monument", with "s and commas - they will still show up as separate words on the search, and an image so keyworded will show up on a search for "city monument".
I understand that "... ..."s is supposed to work, but it doesn't.
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Fresh example: yesterday I had a view on woman lifting man. It so happens that is what my photo shows. But looking for photos of woman lifting man shows that although 'woman' 'lifting' and 'man' are relevant for most of the photos in the search result, very few of them show a photo of a woman lifting a man, which is almost certainly what the buyer was looking for.
I'm very much afraid that the keywording and search are what's making Alamy fall further and further back.
To be fair, in that particular search, istock fares no better, and, surprisingly, no-one appears to have added "woman lifting man" 'for their own use'.
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On the flip side - you had the picture that they may have been looking for!
It's very difficult, without looking on the site I would imagine "woman lifting man" wouldn't get any matches. A client may type in [woman lifting man], or if it was me, woman lifting man. Probably all the images are accurately keyworded, but without disambiguation it's always going to be an inexact science.
It annoy's me as well, but as long as my CTR is higher than average and my pics on the first page ideally, I'm happy.
I once sat a keywording test for Alamy for fun. I can only describe it as very, very difficult. I was on the right lines, but to get to it right would have been beyond me on a regular basis. So much for doing things for fun.
Back to the grind...
Oldhand
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On the flip side - you had the picture that they may have been looking for!
It's very difficult, without looking on the site I would imagine "woman lifting man" wouldn't get any matches. A client may type in [woman lifting man], or if it was me, woman lifting man. Probably all the images are accurately keyworded, but without disambiguation it's always going to be an inexact science.
It annoy's me as well, but as long as my CTR is higher than average and my pics on the first page ideally, I'm happy.
I once sat a keywording test for Alamy for fun. I can only describe it as very, very difficult. I was on the right lines, but to get to it right would have been beyond me on a regular basis. So much for doing things for fun.
Back to the grind...
Oldhand
True it is inexact and there will always be flawed returns.
And by the way, "S" does matter. If I have "cars" in the keywords and someone searches for "car" it's not a match.
Alamy do not employ stemming, for example, we do not automatically add plurals. So if you think both the plural and singular of a term is relevant you must add them both.
Alamy search at the present is exact words, by keyword field priority, word order, then word proximity, apparently (my intuition) match also considers number of matching words divided by total keywords. (less is more!) Over simplified, but "London Bridge" in Essential will display in a search way before "train bridge crossing river with barge water blue sky clouds near London" in Main.
Alamy is very straight forward about explaining these things:
http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/captions-keywords-descriptions.asp (http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/captions-keywords-descriptions.asp)
As usual, it's up to the contributor to make sure the keywords match the image, not that we can spam the fields and some search engine will guess the right match like some sort of psychic. All it does on Alamy is find words that match!
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its funny, i got my first sale on alamy and everything just stopped. no more zooms ,nothing, i wonder if i can reach the payout :-\
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FINALLY! Been there for a year, almost gave up uploading because of no sales but maybe I'll focus a little more effort there after a $225.00 sale from a picture of Wild Lettuce flowers. ;D Didn't even notice I had a sale on July 1st until today! Only have 114 images online. Would love to know the name of the magazine. Probably gardening or something like that.
Here's the info from the sale
Country: United States
Usage: Editorial
Media: Consumer Magazine
Industry: Retail books/magazines/newspapers
Sub-Industry: Miscellaneous
Print run: up to 2 million
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 24 August 2009
End: 31 August 2009
Where did you find the sales information?
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Where did you find the sales information?
My Alamy
(then under "Sales Information")
Summary of Images Sold
(you may have to click a different statement period like 1 year or All)
Country: United States
Usage: Editorial
Media: Textbook - print only
Industry sector: Media Industry
Sub-Industry: Publishing
Print run: up to 5,000
Placement: Front cover
Image Size: 1 page
Start: 19 June 2009
End: 19 June 2012
Sure wish I could find the book so I could see the front cover. :)
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Where did you find the sales information?
My Alamy
(then under "Sales Information")
Summary of Images Sold
(you may have to click a different statement period like 1 year or All)
The detail is only available for RM sales.
Did you try Google Images and TinEye? I have found 4 or my bookcovers through them.
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I've tried both and many others, including Amazon, I get my other images, my photo pages, most of the micro agencies, never one of my Alamy sales and I've yet to find a Microstock image in use. Can't complain when they are paying $200, I get $80 average on Alamy, per download.
I search my name and photo, hoping that it will show the credit line. Maybe someone has a better idea.
Yes, the RF sales are so vague I don't even know what country. I have almost everything RF on Micro, RM on Alamy. Only 38 RF images there. :)
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Where did you find the sales information?
My Alamy
(then under "Sales Information")
Summary of Images Sold
(you may have to click a different statement period like 1 year or All)
The detail is only available for RM sales.
Did you try Google Images and TinEye? I have found 4 or my bookcovers through them.
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Hi there - I got a sale there yesterday, probably the low fee relates to the agreement with UK national newspapers.
Country: United Kingdom
Usage: Editorial
Media: Newspaper - national
Print run: up to 2 million
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/4 page
Start: 26 April 2010
End: 27 April 2010
$ 29.83
Total sales $29.83
My cut will be a grand total of $14. I saw the picture, and if I'd supplied directly through my own agency it would have been around $100 with no deductions. Things being as they are it is a sale gained rather than lost, as they would not have come directly to me for it, nor obviously taken my pic from their own library.
I remain equally delighted and frustrated in equal measures.
Oldhand