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I love you Alamy, but I'm breaking up with you! (wishing you luck)

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Brasilnut:
Iíve always liked Alamyís business model. For years theyíve worked hard to keep license fees relatively high by carving out an editorial niche in a crowded marketplace. Their commission levels continue to be one of the better ones within the major agencies, at 40% for non-exclusive and 50% for exclusive. In addition, they have top-notch contributor customer services.

However, for the past year Iíve noticed within my port, reduced sales and low low prices. Easy to blame Covid but Iíve noticed this trend long before March 2020. So letís dig deeper at whatís going on at Alamy! Be warned that this way a a very stats-based post.

https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/09/13/i-love-you-alamy-but-im-breaking-up-with-you/

How have your sales at Alamy been for the past year?

Alex

noodle:
Last year was my BYE at Alamy in sales and revenue but this year is WAY down to 2015 levels when I had a lot less images on there

I agree Sales have been few and far between and for mostly merger amounts, many in the $3 range

Disappointing

But looks like this whole industry has past its best before date

Firn:
I never understood why so many people praised Alamy to begin with. Just because - usually - royalities are higher than with other agencies? (And that's not even really the case for me, I had multiple sales that earned me as little as 2.84 there.)  What's the point if you earn $10 for an image, but only have 1 or 3 sales each month? Even if other agencies pay less per image, I still earn way more for the exact same work I put into this.

At the beginning I uploaded to them frequently, but sales were so rare, it didn't seem worth it and I stopped completely. Then, maybe a year ago, I had one large sale which motivated me to keep uploading again, but after that one big sale it just went back to the 1-2 average sales each month and a refund for a sale that happened months ago (and the image was still being used on a website and I had to run after them for weeks to finally get at least part of that money back) was the final straw for me. It's really not worth the effort. I earn on other agencies in a month what I earn on Alamy in a year. By the way, Dreamstime earnes me about 3x as much as Alamy. Dreamstime is certainly far from doing great, but at least I do actually get money from them regularly, so it's a "little bit extra" that's worth it to me. I don't even know when was the last time I reached payout on Alamy. January maybe? Had enough sales for another payout since then, but you know how it takes months to actually get the money on your account after a sale... another thing I find not acceptable with them.

StanRohrer:
5600 current images. Slow to grow my portfolio. 12 month moving average is $0.30 to $0.22 Per Image Per Year. This COVID year appears to be trending down. The many year long term trend is still fair to decent. I'm not making big money but I'm also not ready to bail out of Alamy. This portfolio is all editorial and RM. These are images different than I sell via microstock (commercial and RF).

Uncle Pete:

--- Quote from: Firn on September 13, 2020, 15:01 ---I never understood why so many people praised Alamy to begin with. Just because - usually - royalities are higher than with other agencies? (And that's not even really the case for me, I had multiple sales that earned me as little as 2.84 there.)  What's the point if you earn $10 for an image, but only have 1 or 3 sales each month? Even if other agencies pay less per image, I still earn way more for the exact same work I put into this.

At the beginning I uploaded to them frequently, but sales were so rare, it didn't seem worth it and I stopped completely. Then, maybe a year ago, I had one large sale which motivated me to keep uploading again, but after that one big sale it just went back to the 1-2 average sales each month and a refund for a sale that happened months ago (and the image was still being used on a website and I had to run after them for weeks to finally get at least part of that money back) was the final straw for me. It's really not worth the effort. I earn on other agencies in a month what I earn on Alamy in a year. By the way, Dreamstime earnes me about 3x as much as Alamy. Dreamstime is certainly far from doing great, but at least I do actually get money from them regularly, so it's a "little bit extra" that's worth it to me. I don't even know when was the last time I reached payout on Alamy. January maybe? Had enough sales for another payout since then, but you know how it takes months to actually get the money on your account after a sale... another thing I find not acceptable with them.

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The point is, why I stay... when we used to get a sale, note a couple years ago, the money was 50% and fair. Low sales volume didn't matter when I was averaging $88 commission for my downloads. Those days are gone. Reason I won't leave is because I already did the hard parts, taking photos, uploading and adding the details.

Different photos will work better or worse, depending on what agency. On DT I'll collect the next $100 in 2026 if I'm lucky. Minimum $100? What's that? But that tells me, you have better works for DTs customers, than I do.

Right, Alamy is slow, and the returns are lower. Minimum is $50? This year I have one sale for $19.99 and they owe me $9 and change. This could be the first year I don't make payout from Alamy. But I've never had a year where I made more on DT than Alamy. I'll also agree that the $3.38 sales for $1.69 (2019 sales) is disappointing. But last sale on DT was $2 in May. Obviously neither one is anything special?  ;)

The point is, fair pay even if there are low sales, the images are already there. Nothing complicated and not a big financial deal. I'll leave everything there because if I close my account, I'm positive I won't make anything at all? Closing my DT account would be less of a loss, as they can keep the $11.52 I made in 2019/2020.

In the past I did close ever agency except SS, IS, DT, Alamy and P5. I only went back to FT after Adobe bought them. I added Wirestock because it's a lazy way to take old files and spread them around. Plus the $35 minimum, which I already cashed once, means I don't have to wait years for DT or the rest of them, it's whenever I make $35. I suppose I could close DT and upload all the same to WS and apply them to DT? Seems like and odd way to make less, and give 15% to WS, just because DT is slow and low.

Oh and what's the point? I'd say I have dropped 20 or more agencies, because they are just a waste of time and didn't pay fair. Only reason I have an IS account is, same as Alamy, I already did the work. IS gets nothing new for years now. Alamy gets something, if it's travel, scenic or that kind of thing, nothing I'd call Microstock.

ps Adobe gets my illustrations, no place else does. I tried vectors and illustrations at Alamy which was a dead end, waste of time, IMHO. Every place has it's better matching images. Alamy is not a good choice for Microstock type images. But you knew that?  ;D


--- Quote from: Brasilnut on September 13, 2020, 07:34 ---Iíve always liked Alamyís business model. For years theyíve worked hard to keep license fees relatively high by carving out an editorial niche in a crowded marketplace. Their commission levels continue to be one of the better ones within the major agencies, at 40% for non-exclusive and 50% for exclusive. In addition, they have top-notch contributor customer services.

However, for the past year Iíve noticed within my port, reduced sales and low low prices. Easy to blame Covid but Iíve noticed this trend long before March 2020. So letís dig deeper at whatís going on at Alamy! Be warned that this way a a very stats-based post.

https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/09/13/i-love-you-alamy-but-im-breaking-up-with-you/

How have your sales at Alamy been for the past year?

Alex

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I don't think RPI is a fair way to compare, since "what are the images" matters. But no disagreement that sales are down and the value of downloads are down. Want to make Alamy look good, use RPD, which is also not a good measure. Honestly, since this is about making money, the real measure is, how many dollars did I put into my pocket. I'll assume that for most people, that number is down for Alamy in 2020.

Like I wrote above. If I already did the work, uploaded and tagged thousands of images, how does it hurt to just leave them and take what falls on me, at the same time, stop uploading new, to work harder at places that pay back better?

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