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Author Topic: Sales at Alamy. Any updates?  (Read 18604 times)

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2008, 00:04 »
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A couple more sales in the last two days.


« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2008, 11:30 »
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I've been getting a few questions off list about where to put images and should they be RF or RM etc. The answer to most of these questions is, you need to try for yourself. If your images aren't selling on macro I don't need to look at them to know that they may not be suited for macro, same goes for micro. Which image will sell best? Who knows, the market is large and diverse, soon as some one needs it and you have it it will sell. As far as RM and RF is concerned, that's another who knows. You need to place non released editorial in RM, that's a given, after that it depends on where you want it placed. The only real way to become an expert in this game is experiment, asking questions is fine, I do it all the time but get out try different things, then you can tell me.

« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2008, 12:09 »
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I have 682 pictures on that website with a lot of views and been there for a while... like 3 months, not a single sale! :(

« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2008, 17:56 »
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Just curious if most people here will sell their RF images on micros AND Alamy or if you just sell an Alamy RF image on Alamy.  I just got accepted there and was thinking of loading my micro portfolio RF there....the issue is to leave it up on micro as well or pull them as (and if) they get accepted to Alamy.  I had a few responses on another thread, but not many and just wondering what most folks do.  My gut feeling is to pull them from the micros as I go but I want to get a clearer idea if that would be dumb or not.  Most of my stuff is nature oriented which hasn't sold real well on micros...maybe $175 in 5 months on SS and hoping they will sell better on Alamy

« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2008, 02:41 »
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I just got accepted there and was thinking of loading my micro portfolio RF there....the issue is to leave it up on micro as well or pull them as (and if) they get accepted to Alamy. 

Pull them once they are on Alamy!

Howard it can be done the way you say, but Alamy is a lot slower that the micros, but revenue for a sale is better, they have a lot of accounts clients so you could have a sale today and the buyer pays in 30-90 days, and they pay when paid, that aside it is not good practice to have the same image or similars on both at the same time, some have had refunds for finding the same image on the microsite after a sale.

I do not know your style, but you say nature etc:, Alamy will accept images on quality only, they do not edit the collection, so you will have no "Don't need this" or "to many" type rejections, if you have had these from the micros then you could upload these images to Alamy to test the water, without compromising your micro's.

Like Alamy some micro's have time restrictions on deleting or disabling images, bear that in mind when choosing what to upload.

On Alamy you can create  pseudonyms, I have ones like "David - Cox Nature" and group my images like this, my advice is to create pseudonyms that do not link you back to the microsites in a search, I am no longer with the Micro's but I may venture back when the price is right, and I have a different name on the micro's, than I use on the macro's, so a search for "images by" will not bring them all together.

Welcome to Alamy, there seems a trend here of photographers looking to Alamy and Photoshelter.

David

« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2008, 03:14 »
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Welcome to Alamy, there seems a trend here of photographers looking to Alamy and Photoshelter.


Right. I'm only uploading my junk to the micros now, and if it gets rejected 'tant pis' as they say round here.

I have a feeling that the micros are gradually going to discover the truth in the saying "If you pay peanuts you get monkeys". And it's possibly one reason why IS is pushing its exclusivity deal so hard.

« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2008, 15:07 »
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I got accepted back in February 2007, didn't really start uploading until June/July.
First sale in December 07 for $144
Then one in March 08 for $100
And then in May 08 for $115
And one in August 08 for $332

Four sales, total of $691, of which I get $449.15

I had far more images keyworded with Shutterstock back in the day, and didn't see anything like this for the average return per image. 

Just recently keyworded about 400 images to the piddly 100 or so that earned me the first four sales, and have about another 800 accepted that I have to tag and put up for sale.  Hopefully that'll bring a big boost in sales.

« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 10:20 »
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I have around 1500 images, and have for about two years, mostly RF but a few hundred RM. I was averaging about two sales per month on Alamy for the last two years, and the first three months of this year I had three or four sales each month, that was until July. No sales in July or August (and May and June hand only one small sale each month). I uploaded a bunch of images and i think that screwed up my ranking, however under general search terms many of my images show up on the first page so I don't know what happened. Around the beginning of the year I was considering only focusing on macro but now I've made a 180 degree turn and I'm thinking about just focusing on Micro. I've uploaded a few hundred new images to Alamy, Acclaim, and Photoshelter and nothing to show for it for the last three-four months. Maybe my particular type of images fare better in the micro world, don't know. Anyway, uploading and keywording images for Alamy, Acclaim, and Photoshelter is a lot of work for no sales. By far the majority of my income comes from the micro world with fewer images. So I'll give this new uploaded batch until the new year but unless i see at least one or two sales I may take everything down and send the images to the micros. I really hate how Alamy ranks (penalizes)  images based on similar keywords because photographers who specialize in a niche are essentially screwed. I do a lot of business conceptual still-life's and they all require essentially the same keywords but i get penalized for that. i can create a new pseudonym but the ranking of that new pseudo is low and from experience I know a new psuedo usually takes a year before it sufficiently climbs in rank, so either way it's bad for me to create images that I enjoy creating.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 11:01 by stock shooter »

« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 19:16 »
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Not sure what is happening at Alamy right now but I hear of very poor sales for last month from lots of people, me included.

« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 19:17 »
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this month is about 1/3rd of either of last 2 months sales, ouch!

« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2008, 22:23 »
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Hmm... I've got a notion of why you're seeing a drop.

Alamy went from like 6 million to over 13 in a relatively short time period.  You're competing with a TON more images than you were before, and based on what people have reported in terms of sales, I'd imagine a huge number of people 'just getting into' alamy did their very best to imitate (and out-do) many previous submissions.

I'm also gonna go ahead and guess that a huge majority of images produced a year or more ago aren't going to have much use for a while.  What was 'cool' or applicable last year certainly doesn't look current today. 

I think I've found a bit more of a niche for what's selling, at least for me.  I'm going to try to put a great deal more of that type of image up, and see where it takes me.



 

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