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« on: August 22, 2010, 06:41 »
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Old photographs on Alamy:

Do we need to provide documentation to show that we own the copyright to the image or represent the copyright holders ? Is it only a check box ? Or what documentation ?

Has anyone got a link to a previous thread here or elsewhere or to a web page for this issue ? I won't be the first to ask this :)
« Last Edit: August 22, 2010, 08:32 by alias »


« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 09:25 »
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If you are selling TL or RM then there is no problem. If you are selling RF and it is a scan from an old negative then if you took it or own copyright why should you need to make any additional declaration? If it is a photo of an old photo belonging to someone else, then you should have a property release for RF sale and if it belongs to you it probably makes sense to put a statement to that effect in the notes.

I think that is how it works.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 10:52 »
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I don't know about Alamy, but as far as Shutterstock and Bigstock they only required a property release. Dreamstime and iStock required both property and model release from a living relative. Racephoto pointed out that if it is supplied as editorial you wouldn't have to have one but I didn't submit them as editorial. Like I said I don't know how Alamy handles this but that was how the microstock sites handled it. Oh and by the way these photos were portrait photos from the 1800's.

RacePhoto

« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 03:11 »
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I don't know about Alamy, but as far as Shutterstock and Bigstock they only required a property release. Dreamstime and iStock required both property and model release from a living relative. Racephoto pointed out that if it is supplied as editorial you wouldn't have to have one but I didn't submit them as editorial. Like I said I don't know how Alamy handles this but that was how the microstock sites handled it. Oh and by the way these photos were portrait photos from the 1800's.


I know we have worked in the same direction with some of these archive and antique images. My experience with the micros has been varied. (hey what's new) One time something will get accepted without any release, as long as it has the proper editorial captioning. The next SS  will refuse it for no model release. I haven't tried the property release route. Thank you for that information posted before. Since IS has no editorial I haven't tried the property release route. Something to consider when the snow and ice is covering the ground, trees are barren and I'm doing things inside.

Now the real question, what does Alamy require?

Well it may be changing, because until this year you just checked a box saying "I have a release" or "I don't have a release" and that was enough. Keep in mind that Alamy repeats and clearly warns, the end use is the responsibility of the buyer! However I think some people were playing loose with the rules and didn't have releases, then said they did, so buyers were getting disappointed with the "I can get one later" attitude. But up until now, Alamy did not check the release or require one, just disclosure of the state of the release data.

Since I don't do this type of work for anyone, I'd say go to Alamy and the forums or the Blog or the extensive documentation and read what they say, not what I write. Get it from the source. As far as I know, the release on Alamy is for buyers information so they cen decide if they wish to buy and image or not.

You'll want to follow this link. Alamy contributor lied about the release, had his portfolio removed. OK, so they are cracking down!

http://www.bapla.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=89&favm=2030&stype=story

And just for the record, in case someone finds this in a search: Alamy Model Release. Same rules as the more recent micro decisions. Release only covers one shoot or one day.

http://www.alamy.com/contributors/Alamy-stock-photography-model-release-form.pdf


 

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