Author Topic: Submission nightmare! (Read 30537 times)

CD123 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:08 »

Rejection reason:
"Noticeable retouching"
This comment was made on a painting (causing rejection on all submitted images).
Still sure you know everything going on in every Alamy inspector's mind? (brick wall against stone head it seems....)

But whatever, I have now said 20 times I now understand their procedure, think it sucks and that is it. You like it, good for you. If this thread made more people aware of the "ridiculous procedure" - good, because I went through the historic threads and I know I am in good company in either not quite getting it in the beginning or finding it silly. So you are now welcome to insult everybody with the same problem as much as you like. This thread has became a waste of everybody's time about 8 entries back, so please take your last shot now and let us close this one down (yawn.......).
Cheers.

Mantis · « **Reply #26 on:** March 12, 2011, 10:05 »

Quote from: CD123 on March 12, 2011, 07:08

Rejection reason:
"Noticeable retouching"
This comment was made on a painting (causing rejection on all submitted images).
Still sure you know everything going on in every Alamy inspector's mind? (brick wall against stone head it seems....)

But whatever, I have now said 20 times I now understand their procedure, think it sucks and that is it. You like it, good for you. If this thread made more people aware of the "ridiculous procedure" - good, because I went through the historic threads and I know I am in good company in either not quite getting it in the beginning or finding it silly. So you are now welcome to insult everybody with the same problem as much as you like. This thread has became a waste of everybody's time about 8 entries back, so please take your last shot now and let us close this one down (yawn.......).
Cheers.

Now that you've learned the process, my advise is to keep uploading there. It takes a lot of images before you start to get repetitive sales. I think I went 3-4 months before I started to get sales on Alamy. Now I make somewhere around 4k a year there. It's a pain in the ass to prepare images for submission but the return can be decent if you are persistent. Good luck.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #27 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:57 »

Hope it works out for you, with the SoLD and the, noticeable retouching, (which no one here can see because you have no links or samples, and you are anonymous) it will be tough getting past their inspection process. Hopefully you'll figure it out. Usually it's much easier to see what someone is talking about when they link to a 100% sample of the rejected image.

Maybe you should try this? The Alamy QC forum, there are much more experienced members there who have been with Alamy for many more years than I have. Maybe they can help you?

http://alamy.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=topics&f=15

I should have suggested that to start with instead of trying to explain it myself. Go to the Alamy QC forum and ask there. I'm sure you'll get better help.

Quote from: CD123 on March 12, 2011, 07:08

Rejection reason:
"Noticeable retouching"
This comment was made on a painting (causing rejection on all submitted images).
Still sure you know everything going on in every Alamy inspector's mind? (brick wall against stone head it seems....)

But whatever, I have now said 20 times I now understand their procedure, think it sucks and that is it. You like it, good for you. If this thread made more people aware of the "ridiculous procedure" - good, because I went through the historic threads and I know I am in good company in either not quite getting it in the beginning or finding it silly. So you are now welcome to insult everybody with the same problem as much as you like. This thread has became a waste of everybody's time about 8 entries back, so please take your last shot now and let us close this one down (yawn.......).
Cheers.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #28 on:** March 12, 2011, 21:01 »

Quote from: CD123 on March 12, 2011, 07:08

Rejection reason:
"Noticeable retouching"
This comment was made on a painting (causing rejection on all submitted images).
Still sure you know everything going on in every Alamy inspector's mind? (brick wall against stone head it seems....)

But whatever, I have now said 20 times I now understand their procedure, think it sucks and that is it. You like it, good for you. If this thread made more people aware of the "ridiculous procedure" - good, because I went through the historic threads and I know I am in good company in either not quite getting it in the beginning or finding it silly. So you are now welcome to insult everybody with the same problem as much as you like. This thread has became a waste of everybody's time about 8 entries back, so please take your last shot now and let us close this one down (yawn.......).
Cheers.

CD123 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:11 »

That is so sweet YadaYadaYada! But you by accident posted into a thread - self portraits should rather be used through the avatar upload facility....(it is so you).

Snap2Art · « **Reply #30 on:** March 13, 2011, 17:29 »

Wow, thought I joined a website for professionals? Then I see this post from YadaYadaYada (guess the name should already indicate the mentality). No previous contribution to this thread and then this. Pathetic!

My apology to the rest of the members here that this should be my first remark on this website, but somehow, no matter how great the website and professional the owner's approach is, there must always be the "YadaYada" type.

CD123 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:06 »

Quote from: Snap2Art on March 13, 2011, 17:29

Wow, thought I joined a website for professionals? Then I see this post from YadaYadaYada (guess the name should already indicate the mentality). No previous contribution to this thread and then this. Pathetic!

My apology to the rest of the members here that this should be my first remark on this website, but somehow, no matter how great the website and professional the owner's approach is, there must always be the "YadaYada" type.

+1 and welcome. You will luckily find very few "YadaYadas" here.

Most members delivers constructive and useful contributions.

bobkeenan · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2011, 16:29 »

I know that this was a couple of months ago....but it truly made me laugh out loud. You are right on with you comments!

Quote from: visceralimage on March 12, 2011, 05:00

Quote from: RacePhoto on March 12, 2011, 02:05
Quote from: visceralimage on March 09, 2011, 04:28
Race:

Laughing my **S off; take a "chill pill", sip a beer or something

I agree, it's like talking to a wall. One excuse after another why the site is wrong because someone didn't read the rules and can't follow them.

"The procedure of decline one, decline all robs me of the opportunity to establish which type of images the site prefers."

Hint: Alamy does not judge content, only image quality. Someone new to any agency should read the instructions and help files.

Alamy is pretty basic and upfront; you can send in a picture of a rock; not an interesting rock, just an everyday "by the side of the road" rock. If it is lite correctly, proper contrast, good white balance and position well in the frame; it will be accepted by Alamy. Shutterstock would deny it based on focus; IS would deny based on lack of punch or color, Dreamstime would deny it based on similars, Fotolia would deny it based on "to many of the same", etc.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2011, 21:41 »

Sorry if I just thought he was a little slow and I was kind of shooting from the hip. I tried to be more informative after that, but failed.

I really wonder who he is and if he ever got anything accepted on Alamy. That's the trouble with anonymous, you can't look at the photos and give useful help.

There was some waffling about photos of paintings and I got lost in all the hundreds of pictures submitted and "one fail all fail" which has been in place since people mailed in CDs and 48MB files! Now that must have been a tough rejection to take!

Quote from: bobkeenan on May 23, 2011, 16:29

I know that this was a couple of months ago....but it truly made me laugh out loud. You are right on with you comments!

Quote from: visceralimage on March 12, 2011, 05:00
Quote from: RacePhoto on March 12, 2011, 02:05
Quote from: visceralimage on March 09, 2011, 04:28
Race:

Laughing my **S off; take a "chill pill", sip a beer or something

I agree, it's like talking to a wall. One excuse after another why the site is wrong because someone didn't read the rules and can't follow them.

"The procedure of decline one, decline all robs me of the opportunity to establish which type of images the site prefers."

Hint: Alamy does not judge content, only image quality. Someone new to any agency should read the instructions and help files.

Alamy is pretty basic and upfront; you can send in a picture of a rock; not an interesting rock, just an everyday "by the side of the road" rock. If it is lite correctly, proper contrast, good white balance and position well in the frame; it will be accepted by Alamy. Shutterstock would deny it based on focus; IS would deny based on lack of punch or color, Dreamstime would deny it based on similars, Fotolia would deny it based on "to many of the same", etc.

helix7 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2011, 23:33 »

Quote from: Snap2Art on March 13, 2011, 17:29

...My apology to the rest of the members here that this should be my first remark on this website, but somehow, no matter how great the website and professional the owner's approach is, there must always be the "YadaYada" type.

Yeah, it's terrible, right? Almost as frustrating as having to read a rant by someone who didn't bother to read the terms and suggestions on Alamy and came here to whine about rejections, even though Alamy very clearly suggests that new users upload in small batches.

No matter how great the website...

dbvirago · « **Reply #35 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:14 »

Yeah, Alamy is a different beast but worth the effort if you play by their rules. I still upload in small batches as the risk vs reward is too high. Their all or nothing policy is based on the assumption that every image you upload is from the same shoot and that they are all the same quality. I've had a couple of their SOLD rejections and have learned to keep all images in my Alamy folder until they are reviewed. If I get a rejection, I delete the image they rejected and take another careful look at the rest of the batch. If I still think they are ok, I upload the entire batch again minus the reject. I've never had a second rejection.

OTH, my highest sales there are mundane but well executied shots that would get an LCV at the quarter a pop sites.

My wishlist would be that, now that you don't have to get a check in the mail (they discontinued beaver pelts last year) that the payment threshold was a bit lower.

Moonb007 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 29, 2011, 12:21 »

Quote from: dbvirago on May 26, 2011, 09:14

Yeah, Alamy is a different beast but worth the effort if you play by their rules. I still upload in small batches as the risk vs reward is too high. Their all or nothing policy is based on the assumption that every image you upload is from the same shoot and that they are all the same quality. I've had a couple of their SOLD rejections and have learned to keep all images in my Alamy folder until they are reviewed. If I get a rejection, I delete the image they rejected and take another careful look at the rest of the batch. If I still think they are ok, I upload the entire batch again minus the reject. I've never had a second rejection.

OTH, my highest sales there are mundane but well executied shots that would get an LCV at the quarter a pop sites.

My wishlist would be that, now that you don't have to get a check in the mail (they discontinued beaver pelts last year) that the payment threshold was a bit lower.

I do the same thing, its painfully a slow process so I limit my uploads to 10 images only. I noticed also if you have multiple tracking images they will reject all your qued images if any of the others get rejected.

dbvirago · « **Reply #37 on:** May 29, 2011, 13:03 »

Yeah, batches have nothing to do with when you upload but when they review. Sometimes reviews happen within 24 hours, other times it can take weeks. Regardless, anything you upload in that period is the same batch to them.

fritz · « **Reply #38 on:** May 29, 2011, 18:28 »

Quote from: Mantis on March 12, 2011, 10:05

Quote from: CD123 on March 12, 2011, 07:08
Rejection reason:
"Noticeable retouching"
This comment was made on a painting (causing rejection on all submitted images).
Still sure you know everything going on in every Alamy inspector's mind? (brick wall against stone head it seems....)

But whatever, I have now said 20 times I now understand their procedure, think it sucks and that is it. You like it, good for you. If this thread made more people aware of the "ridiculous procedure" - good, because I went through the historic threads and I know I am in good company in either not quite getting it in the beginning or finding it silly. So you are now welcome to insult everybody with the same problem as much as you like. This thread has became a waste of everybody's time about 8 entries back, so please take your last shot now and let us close this one down (yawn.......).
Cheers.

Now that you've learned the process, my advise is to keep uploading there. It takes a lot of images before you start to get repetitive sales. I think I went 3-4 months before I started to get sales on Alamy. Now I make somewhere around 4k a year there. It's a pain in the ass to prepare images for submission but the return can be decent if you are persistent. Good luck.

If it's not a secret how many files do you have and what kind of photos do you sell on Alamy. Having 250 files there and no problem with rejections. Just wonder what is selleable there.
Any idea?

LSD72 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 29, 2011, 21:14 »

Anything British.

Just kidding. You never know what will sell there. Since Measures is back up and running, you can look at what people are searching for. My first sale there was just a garden hose rolled up beside a house. Got $60 (my cut) for textbook image. That shot would have never ever made it to a Micro site.

Milinz · « **Reply #40 on:** May 29, 2011, 22:38 »

Quote from: Moonb007 on May 29, 2011, 12:21

Quote from: dbvirago on May 26, 2011, 09:14
Yeah, Alamy is a different beast but worth the effort if you play by their rules. I still upload in small batches as the risk vs reward is too high. Their all or nothing policy is based on the assumption that every image you upload is from the same shoot and that they are all the same quality. I've had a couple of their SOLD rejections and have learned to keep all images in my Alamy folder until they are reviewed. If I get a rejection, I delete the image they rejected and take another careful look at the rest of the batch. If I still think they are ok, I upload the entire batch again minus the reject. I've never had a second rejection.

OTH, my highest sales there are mundane but well executied shots that would get an LCV at the quarter a pop sites.

My wishlist would be that, now that you don't have to get a check in the mail (they discontinued beaver pelts last year) that the payment threshold was a bit lower.

I do the same thing, its painfully a slow process so I limit my uploads to 10 images only. I noticed also if you have multiple tracking images they will reject all your qued images if any of the others get rejected.

You noticed that, are you related to CD123, did you read the help files?

http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/prepare-images.asp

Quote from above: A submission is defined as any group of media that are awaiting QC at the same time regardless of the day they were submitted (they will all have the status “Awaiting QC”).
If we fail one image, we will reject all images in all media awaiting QC at that time.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #41 on:** May 29, 2011, 23:11 »

Quote from: LSD72 on May 29, 2011, 21:14

Anything British.

Just kidding. You never know what will sell there. Since Measures is back up and running, you can look at what people are searching for. My first sale there was just a garden hose rolled up beside a house. Got $60 (my cut) for textbook image. That shot would have never ever made it to a Micro site.

Me too, it's simply unpredictable on Alamy.
My last sale was a shot of a bank, poor lighting, poor framing, poor keywording, and yet it sold (15$ my net cut).
My best images instead never made a sale nor a single zoom.

Freedom · « **Reply #42 on:** May 30, 2011, 00:12 »

Almost all my sales are RM, even before I became iStock exclusive. Most of my sales are over $100, and the photos are comparatively unique.

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dbvirago

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